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Nineveh
March 15th, 2004, 11:10 AM
A large cave with a crystal-covered floor and formations said to rival those of Kartchner Caverns is being carefully and quietly explored by researchers east of Tucson.
But it is unlikely that the public will ever be let into the cave, which is inside Pima County's 2,400-acre Colossal Cave Mountain Park.
The cave has been named La Tetera - Spanish for "the tea kettle" - because it was found when steam was seen shooting from a small hole.
La Tetera was discovered more than eight years ago. But it wasn't until late last year that the explorers came upon a large room with a stunning, crystal-covered floor, gigantic stalagmites up to 30 feet high and what one caver called "fantastic formations."
Full story. (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0311CaveFind11-ON.html)
Be sure to hit the link to the right under "Related Coverage" to see some of these awsome formations you will most likely never get to see with your own eyes...
Further reading. (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0311caveside-ON.html)
Zakath
March 15th, 2004, 11:14 AM
Beautiful formations. As intricate and delicate looking as they appear, I can see why the general public is not going to be allowed in.
Free-Agent Smith
March 16th, 2004, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by Zakath
Beautiful formations. As intricate and delicate looking as they appear, I can see why the general public is not going to be allowed in. Why hide it from the public?
Cyrus of Persia
March 16th, 2004, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by Agent Smith
Why hide it from the public?
Did you read the whole article?
Zakath
March 16th, 2004, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Agent Smith
Why hide it from the public?
Did you ever hear or read about what happened to the caves in Lascaux France where the famous cave paintings were found?
In the late 1940's they were opened for public viewing and between the vandalism, acid damage to the pigments and algal growth caused by excess CO2 from the visitors' breath, the caves were closed to the public in 1963.
Judging by the apparent fragility of some of the structures, while it's not as impressive as seeing it for real, photos may have to do.
Nineveh
March 16th, 2004, 10:16 AM
When they lowered themselves to the floor of the cave, the first people inside came across a large bone - possibly from a prehistoric camel. The bone was 10,000 years old, coming from a period when camels were common in what is now Arizona.
It's not just rocks we won't get to see.
I remember about 10-15 years ago an Egyptian tomb was reported in the NEWS over in Ohio. I looked for the info, and there is nothing about it. If it had been a hoax, I would have been able to find scads of info. I think it's one of those things Brother Willi keeps bringing up. My sincerest hope is this cave and it's treasures won't be "filed" without public knowledge, we have already lost 8 years for secrecies sake. Only 20 pics in 8 years? When is the book going to be published?
Zakath
March 16th, 2004, 10:40 AM
Are you talking about the Hopewell Circle, aka the Newark Earthworks, near Newark, Ohio?
Free-Agent Smith
March 16th, 2004, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by Cyrus of Persia
Did you read the whole article? Yes, I did read the whole article.
Free-Agent Smith
March 16th, 2004, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by Zakath
Did you ever hear or read about what happened to the caves in Lascaux France where the famous cave paintings were found?
In the late 1940's they were opened for public viewing and between the vandalism, acid damage to the pigments and algal growth caused by excess CO2 from the visitors' breath, the caves were closed to the public in 1963.
Judging by the apparent fragility of some of the structures, while it's not as impressive as seeing it for real, photos may have to do. Well, I can't say much for the caves in France but this article is about caves in the US. We have the technology to keep the caves preserved even if the cost of visitation is a bit expensive.
Zakath
March 16th, 2004, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Agent Smith
Well, I can't say much for the caves in France but this article is about caves in the US. We have the technology to keep the caves preserved even if the cost of visitation is a bit expensive. But who's going to pay for it? The state? The feds? Massive public expenditures for something like this wouldn't be popular to suggest, particularly in an election year.
Once the caves are opened, vandalism becomes a serious issue. Talk to people who work in such venues...
Nineveh
March 16th, 2004, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Zakath
Are you talking about the Hopewell Circle, aka the Newark Earthworks, near Newark, Ohio?
It could be, but it's been so long... I actually remember thinking when I heard it on the news, "cool, I can't wait to hear more about it.", then never did. I did a quick Google search and didn't see "Hopewell Circle" associated with Egyptian tombs.
Agent Smith said, "We have the technology to keep the caves preserved even if the cost of visitation is a bit expensive." Good stewardship is the key :) The curators of Mammoth Cave are learning to close off sections that show stress.
Zakath
March 16th, 2004, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Nineveh
It could be, but it's been so long... I actually remember thinking when I heard it on the news, "cool, I can't wait to hear more about it.", then never did. I did a quick Google search and didn't see "Hopewell Circle" associated with Egyptian tombs.I couldn't find anything to do with Egypt and Ohio other than some Egyptian exhibits at some Ohio museums. :think:
brother Willi
March 16th, 2004, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Nineveh
Full story. (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0311CaveFind11-ON.html)
Be sure to hit the link to the right under "Related Coverage" to see some of these awsome formations you will most likely never get to see with your own eyes...
Further reading. (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0311caveside-ON.html)
COOL LINK Nineveh:thumb:
Free-Agent Smith
March 17th, 2004, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by Zakath
But who's going to pay for it? The state? The feds? Massive public expenditures for something like this wouldn't be popular to suggest, particularly in an election year.
Once the caves are opened, vandalism becomes a serious issue. Talk to people who work in such venues... If they didn't want the public to have access to the caves then they shouldn't have had a public announcement.
As for myself, I haven't had the opportunity to explore any of the caves in the US at this time but I hope I will. When I get the chance I hope that it will be open to me, even at a cost as is the procedure for such things like the Mammoth Caves in Tennessee. I would be more than willing to pay an entrance fee and even wear a containment suit to be able to see such natural wonders that they say are in these newfound caves. I would enjoy pictures but I would rather view them myself. Are you really so sure of adamant vandals that you would hide such a geological treasure from the public?
As for the politicians, it's not my problem that popularity is on their mind.
Free-Agent Smith
March 17th, 2004, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by Nineveh
Agent Smith said, "We have the technology to keep the caves preserved even if the cost of visitation is a bit expensive." Good stewardship is the key :) The curators of Mammoth Cave are learning to close off sections that show stress.
Well said Nineveh, thank you :)
Lucky
March 17th, 2004, 02:19 AM
Yeah, that does stink.
Not a single one of those photos is big enough to use as a desktop background. :geek:
Nineveh
March 17th, 2004, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by Lucky
Yeah, that does stink.
Not a single one of those photos is big enough to use as a desktop background. :geek:
Ok, well how about these (http://hubblesite.org/gallery/wallpaper/)*?
(*these aren't rocks underground :) )
Free-Agent Smith
March 18th, 2004, 01:36 AM
Great wallpapers Nineveh:)
Lucky
March 18th, 2004, 01:43 AM
Yeah, they rock! (NPI) ;)
Nineveh
March 18th, 2004, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Lucky
Yeah, they rock! (NPI) ;)
:ha:
Karaite
April 13th, 2004, 01:35 AM
:(
The pages aren't there anymore.... do you know of any other places to read about it?
Free-Agent Smith
April 13th, 2004, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by yoshiah_ap
:(
The pages aren't there anymore.... do you know of any other places to read about it?
Cut and paste that to your browser window and try it.
http://hubblesite.org/gallery/wallpaper/
Nineveh
April 13th, 2004, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by yoshiah_ap
:(
The pages aren't there anymore.... do you know of any other places to read about it?
Luckily I found a site that still has an article about it :)
http://www.fox11az.com/scitech/sci/stories/KMSB_local_cave_031204.7b02fd27.html
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