BRVIII pre-debate poll - Were works ever required for salvation?

[Turbo]

Were works ever required for salvation?

This is the topic of Battle Royale VIII - Jerry Shugart vs. *Acts9_12Out* (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=489130#post489130).

You can discuss the battle and/or the topic here (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=489137#post489137). This thread is just a poll to see where idea of where the audience stands as the debate is about to begin. If you comment, just tell us how you answered. You may include a (brief) explanation of why you answered the way you did, but this thread isn't intended for debating the issue or discussing the battle. Again, that's what this thread (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=489137#post489137) is for.

[the Sibbie]

I'm not sure.

For the case of the Body of Christ, where there is no disticntion between Jew or Gentile, I don't think works are required for salvation. But for the Israelites (the Circumcised people) it seems that perhaps that before they were "cut off" that certain works were required for salvation.

So I guess we will see who's argument makes more sense.

[Freak]

Originally posted by Sibbie

I'm not sure.

For the case of the Body of Christ, where there is no disticntion between Jew or Gentile, I don't think works are required for salvation. But for the Israelites (the Circumcised people) it seems that perhaps that before they were "cut off" that certain works were required for salvation.

So I guess we will see who's argument makes more sense. To those under the Law, Jesus declared:

...that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life. "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

[the Sibbie]

Originally posted by Sibbie

But for the Israelites (the Circumcised people) it seems that perhaps that before they were "cut off" that certain works were required for salvation.
Sorry, I should have said "it seems...certain works were required for salvation" along with faith in God.

But since Turbo said this thread is not for discussing or debating this issue, I won't add anything more.

[Knight]

This verse keeps bashing me in the head.....

Colossians 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

[Freak]

Originally posted by Knight

This verse keeps bashing me in the head.....

Colossians 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
Okay...

[Freak]

Originally posted by Sibbie

Sorry, I should have said "it seems...certain works were required for salvation" along with faith in God.

...that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life. "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

In light of what Jesus says, do you still say, "It seems..."

[Nimrod]

Originally posted by Knight

This verse keeps bashing me in the head.....

Colossians 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

This verse deals with the LORD nailing our IOU's to the cross not the moral Law.

Also, your login page throws 404 errors. When I am not registered in, I click "quote" and it brings me to a page to log in. After typing the correct info I get an error. Please be advise.

[BChristianK]

Originally posted by Knight

This verse keeps bashing me in the head.....

Colossians 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

not sure what you mean?

Grace and Peace

[Psalmist]

This verse keeps bashing me in the head.....

Colossians 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

Wiped out the requirements that was against us . . . Taking it out of the way . . .He did the work for us (salvation) that we could not do, as stated in John 3:16, for then all we could do, is Romans 10:9-10, because Romans 10:14.

At Mount Transfiguration The Law (OT) and the Prophets (The Promise) met Grace (Jesus), "It is Finished.

It is "Like being feed at the Table of Mercy the Bread of Grace, "It is Done."

If it depended on my works, I would be finished (wiped out), and the act of salvation could not be done.

But praise be to the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world, because He came to seek and to save those who are lost, ME! Amen and Amen, Praise the Lord ! ! !

There I go again off in to shouting territory . . .

Thank the Lord, I'm resting in Jesus, my (our) author and finisher.

[Psalmist]

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