Petitions

[Free-Agent Smith]

On April 21st, I posted a petition that was against gay marriage. I would appreciate it if anyone who had read the petition or the thread, preferably both, would mind taking a minute or so to be judgemental on this poll.

[Free-Agent Smith]

Two hours and 40 minutes... 7 votes so far

[Free-Agent Smith]

9 votes :)

[ShadowMaid]

No, I do not support the marriage of gay couples.

[Crow]

Neither do I. :crow2:

[ShadowMaid]

To add to that... I will never support the thought.

[firechyld]

I do.

(OMIGOD!!! Are you all SURPRISED??)

:D

[Lucky]

Yes, I support gay murder. Woops, I misread the title..

[thistle]

So far 11 against abomination, 3 in favor.

[firechyld]

Three vs elevenths isn't bad, especially considering the bias of the site.... *muses*

[Berean Todd]

Originally posted by firechyld

especially considering the bias of the site.... *muses*

Yeah, crazy us, taking that whole "God's Word" thing to be important ... and make it 12.

[cattyfan]

I've actually come full circle on my thoughts where this and several other topics are concerned.

When I was a grade-schooler, I did and thought what I was told. As a teen and in college, I questioned, challenged, and rebelled (a lot!)

As an adult, I've taken a more critical look at everything. I concluded most of what I leaned as a child was, indeed, correct. When I was pretending all of it was wrong and that all behaviors were valid and equal (as a young adult) was actually when I was most childish. Ironic.

"When I was a child, I talked like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man (adult,) I put childish ways behind me." (1 Corinthians 13:11)

Understanding what is truly wrong or right, good or evil, is to be an adult.

I will not support "marriage" between gays, and even if this country is spineless enough to cave to the demands of the immoral minority, I will still not support "gay marriage."

[On Fire]

13

[Jabez]

14

[the Sibbie]

I'm just now posting, but voted yesterday. I think I was vote # 5. :D

[Dread Helm]

make that 16 to 3
:D

[ShadowMaid]

Did anyone know that Disney World has something called a "Gay Day?" It's totally gross! :vomit:

[ShadowMaid]

Needless to say, I'm not going to Disney World.

[billwald]

Why should the govt be in the marriage business?

[Dread Helm]

Originally posted by billwald

Why should the govt be in the marriage business?

They're in every other business (unfortunateley). :rolleyes:

Gay day: I like the idea. One Cruise missle into Disneyworld. Destroy two evils. No I'm just kidding, :angel:

[ShadowMaid]

Originally posted by Dread Helm
Gay day: I like the idea. One Cruise missle into Disneyworld. Destroy two evils. No I'm just kidding, :angel:

:chuckle: I think you're on to something! ;)

[Nineveh]

Originally posted by ShadowMaid

Did anyone know that Disney World has something called a "Gay Day?" It's totally gross! :vomit:

It think it's "gay days" now.

[cattyfan]

well, c'mon people. Are you surprised? Mickey Mouse DOES fit all the stereotypes!

[Poly]

18

[Gerald]

Originally posted by Lucky
Yes, I support gay murder. Woops, I misread the title..
And you claim I'm blowing smoke when I talk tough...

[Berean Todd]

Originally posted by ShadowMaid

Did anyone know that Disney World has something called a "Gay Day?"

It's not so much that Disney World supports it, it's that they gays come and make it their day, or "days", but Disney World therefore warns those of us who would be offended know so as not to coincide our trips with that.

At least that's how it originally started out - maybe now they do support it and I don't know, but originally it was not something that they set up, promoted or wanted - they just warned.

[Lucky]

Originally posted by Gerald

And you claim I'm blowing smoke when I talk tough...
In my case it's more like "making a joke" (albeit a dumb one) rather than "blowing smoke." :p

[Free-Agent Smith]

Did all of you that voted on this poll sign the petition?

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by Gerald

And you claim I'm blowing smoke when I talk tough...


I have a friend nicknamed 'Smoke'. Do you know him? :think:

[BillyBob]

21

[Lucky]

Originally posted by Agent Smith

Did all of you that voted on this poll sign the petition?
Petition? :confused:

[firechyld]

Yeah, crazy us, taking that whole "God's Word" thing to be important ... and make it 12.

I wasn't saying you were "crazy"... I was just saying that it's interesting to note the balance of the votes IN LIGHT OF the fact that this site is frequented by a large number of politically conservative Americans.

[Mr. 5020]

I was #23. So far, there are 5 "enemy" votes. :chuckle:

Agent Smith, a link to the petition?

[Nineveh]

From Mr. Smith's "Marriage...I Won't Be Tolerant" thread:

Petition (http://www.pfm.org/BPtemplate.cfm?Section=BreakPoint_Home&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=11542)

[philosophizer]

Originally posted by Dread Helm

They're in every other business (unfortunateley). :rolleyes:

Gay day: I like the idea. One Cruise missle into Disneyworld. Destroy two evils. No I'm just kidding, :angel:

Wow! I'm having flashbacks to last summer and Tye's Gay Day at Waterworld thread. That caused a ruckus! :eek:

Add my vote against the bastardization of marriage by homosexuals.

[Free-Agent Smith]

Originally posted by Nineveh

From Mr. Smith's "Marriage...I Won't Be Tolerant" thread:

Petition (http://www.pfm.org/BPtemplate.cfm?Section=BreakPoint_Home&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=11542) Thank you Nineveh for posting the link:Nineveh:

[Free-Agent Smith]

Of the five votes for gay marriage, how many of those are homosexuals that want to have the right to get married?

[ebenz47037]

I voted no. And, yes, I signed the petition. :)

[ebenz47037]

Originally posted by ShadowMaid

Did anyone know that Disney World has something called a "Gay Day?" It's totally gross! :vomit:

DisneyLand, in California, has it too. That's one reason that my husband and I quit going. But, it was bad enough on "regular" days. The homosexual couples just had to display their affection for their partners publicly. Eeewwww! I don't even like to see straight couples in public displays of affection. And, I'm thirty-five years old. The closest my husband and I came to public displays of affection was when he would hold my hand as we walked.

[Poly]

5 sick and disgusting perverts! :vomit:
32 who give God enough respect to consider what He says on the matter. :thumb:

[Freak]

No, I will not support marriage rights for homosexuals.

[Lucky]

Okie dokie, I "signed" the petition. :)

[Christine]

I'm #34, but besides not supporting the marriage of sodomites, I don't support the lifestyle (sin).

[lucybelle]

I totally disagree with Gay Marriage - not just because of my religious convictions, but I also believe it's a lousy idea economically speaking as well...
Down with Gay Marriage!
They can have any thing else but marriage...for example, I'm willing to let them have Aids - and most other sexually transmitted diseases...and....I think that's being very generous.

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by Agent Smith

Of the five votes for gay marriage, how many of those are homosexuals that want to have the right to get married?

Homosexuals already have the right to get married.

Just not to each other. :freak:

[ShadowMaid]

:chuckle:

[jeremiah]

# 37

Wow, so this is what being in the majority feels like.:D I like this new feeling.
BTW, not only am I against homosexuality, but also adultery, and all the other improper sexual relations mentioned in Leviticus 18, I guess I am now back in the minority.:(

[firechyld]

AS...

Of the five votes for gay marriage, how many of those are homosexuals that want to have the right to get married?

I don't necessarily want homosexual marriage legalised for myself... but if I ever decided to marry a woman, I'd want to be able to.

So I won't answer that question with a yes or a no. I want homosexual marriage legalised so that other people can enter into marriage, should they desire to.

I'm all for the acceptance of monogamous marriage as an ideal for everyone.

lucy...

I totally disagree with Gay Marriage - not just because of my religious convictions, but I also believe it's a lousy idea economically speaking as well...
Down with Gay Marriage!

Why do you say that gay marriage is a bad idea economically?

[Free-Agent Smith]

Originally posted by firechyld

I don't necessarily want homosexual marriage legalised for myself... but if I ever decided to marry a woman, I'd want to be able to.

So I won't answer that question with a yes or a no. I want homosexual marriage legalised so that other people can enter into marriage, should they desire to.

I'm all for the acceptance of monogamous marriage as an ideal for everyone.
I'll complain less as long as it is kept in Australia

[firechyld]

*shrug*

Fair enuff.

You do realise that a marriage undertaken in Australia will probably be recognised in the US? It works for Canada and the Netherlands.

[Free-Agent Smith]

Originally posted by firechyld

*shrug*

Fair enuff.

You do realise that a marriage undertaken in Australia will probably be recognised in the US? It works for Canada and the Netherlands. If it comes up for vote, I will be against it also.

[Crow]

Originally posted by firechyld

*shrug*

Fair enuff.

You do realise that a marriage undertaken in Australia will probably be recognised in the US? It works for Canada and the Netherlands.

And do you also believe that if a man in some other countriy marries 12 women and emigrates to the US that ALL will be recognized here as his legal wives?

:darwinsm:

[Lucky]

Originally posted by BillyBob

Homosexuals already have the right to get married.

Just not to each other. :freak:
:thumb:

[firechyld]

And do you also believe that if a man in some other countriy marries 12 women and emigrates to the US that ALL will be recognized here as his legal wives?

I based my comment on actual fact. Homosexuals can currently marry in Amsterdam or Canada and have their marriages recognised in the US. It's happened already.

[Crow]

And what are you calling recognition? Can the homosexuals claim joint filing status on taxes? Are they entitled to family leave? Or are you referring to people who tolerate their behavior, just as they tolerate the unmarried gay couples that are already here.

What legal status do these "marriages" have?

[firechyld]

Good questions. I'm not a hundred percent sure.

I know there's no full allotment of family benefits, but they can legally declare themselves married.

I'll have a dig and see what that actually entails.

[Aimiel]

# 3 9

I'm against adultery, rape and murder, too... guess that makes me a Christian fanatic.

[firechyld]

Lucybelle...

You might have missed my question.

Why do you say that gay marriage is a bad idea economically?

[Free-Agent Smith]

Excellent 40 votes for morality :Nineveh:

[firechyld]

Isn't this poll a tad redundant in this environment?

[Nineveh]

Originally posted by firechyld

Isn't this poll a tad redundant in this environment?

Date Jan. 18: Support Amendment 38%
Date Feb. 22: Support Amendment 46%

ABC (http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Relationships/gay_marriage_poll_040224.html) poll. Just fyi, ABC is nothing close to being a "Christian" news service.

Gallup (http://www.gallup.com/content/login.aspx?ci=10585) says, "About 6 in 10 Americans oppose the legalization of same-sex marriage,"

So it would appear the rest of the US is catching up to TOL :)

[Free-Agent Smith]

Originally posted by firechyld

Isn't this poll a tad redundant in this environment? Not really. I achieved my goal of adding names to the petition to ban gay marriage.

[Free-Agent Smith]

Originally posted by Nineveh

Date Jan. 18: Support Amendment 38%
Date Feb. 22: Support Amendment 46%

ABC (http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Relationships/gay_marriage_poll_040224.html) poll. Just fyi, ABC is nothing close to being a "Christian" news service.

Gallup (http://www.gallup.com/content/login.aspx?ci=10585) says, "About 6 in 10 Americans oppose the legalization of same-sex marriage,"

So it would appear the rest of the US is catching up to TOL :) Awesome! :thumb: :Nineveh:

[firechyld]

Not really. I achieved my goal of adding names to the petition to ban gay marriage.

Oh, fair enuff. I didn't think of that. *sheepish*

[Free-Agent Smith]

Thank you for your help :Nineveh:

[firechyld]

'Sall good. :)

[Free-Agent Smith]

43 and doing good :Nineveh:

[Aimiel]

bump :jump:

[Free-Agent Smith]

47 !!! :Nineveh:

[rajuncajun]

i do NOT SUPPORT gay marriage.eeeewwwww!!!!!!

[Poly]

Originally posted by rajuncajun

i do NOT SUPPORT gay marriage.eeeewwwww!!!!!!
Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel about it. :D

[rajuncajun]

i thought i did.HAHA!poly i like the signature.its so cool

[firechyld]

Rajun Cajun, hey?

Are you an X-Men fan by any chance?

[rajuncajun]

Originally posted by firechyld

Rajun Cajun, hey?

Are you an X-Men fan by any chance? not particularily,oh hola!:D

[firechyld]

Jus' checking. :)

Remy LeBeau is my favourite Cajun. Of course, I don't have too many to compare him to, so it's a relatively easy position to hold.

[Free-Agent Smith]

51 votes! Excellent:Nineveh:

[Clete]

Homos have the right to a speedy trial and a swift painful public execution, married or otherwise.

[firechyld]

"Let [gays] marry. Why shouldn't they be as miserable as the rest of us?"

-Law and Order

[Free-Agent Smith]

54 votes :Nineveh:

[Aimiel]

Too bad the membership of TOL isn't the U.S. Congress; we could effect some mighty changes in this nation.

[beanieboy]

Unfortunately, the US doesn't work this way.
The Majority (85% or something) identify as christian.
But you couldn't start and pass a ban on being Jewish, or Muslim, simply because the majority says they want to.

This is the first amendment that has ever been presented to actually prevent rights of another. It's historical, actually.

Not only is it now not legal for two people of the same sex to marry, but they want to ban it from ever becoming legal.

Kind of overkill, don't you think?

[On Fire]

Did you say "kill"?

[cattyfan]

This is the first amendment that has ever been presented to actually prevent rights of another. It's historical, actually.

no, it doesn't restrict rights. Historically, marriage has ALWAYS been defined as taking place between one man and one woman. this is the SAME FOR EVERYONE. no ones rights would be any different, therefore it can't be said the amendment would prevent rights for anyone. It would, however, prevent the redefining of marriage and the abuse of the right to marry.

(by the way, historical is "based on people or events of the past, or established by history." you wanted to use either historic or precedent setting.)

[beanieboy]

Is banning blacks from voting protecting white people?

[beanieboy]

Originally posted by AtheistsSuck

Did you say "kill"?

Overkill.
I realize that it's 3 syllables, but...

[cattyfan]

"Is banning blacks from voting protecting white people?"

this question has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion at hand, and is the usual red herring thrown out in an effort to derail the discussion and obscure the actual controversy, while lending an air of legitamacy to an illegitamate proposal.

[Free-Agent Smith]

Originally posted by Aimiel

Too bad the membership of TOL isn't the U.S. Congress; we could effect some mighty changes in this nation. If you get their e-mails I will invite each one of them:)

[Poly]

54 wise decisions
8 fools

[Aimiel]

Originally posted by Agent Smith

If you get their e-mails I will invite each one of them:) OK, start writing: Congressman E-Mail Addresses (http://www.house.gov/writerep/) and Senator's E-Mail Addresses. (http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm)

[Free-Agent Smith]

Originally posted by Aimiel

OK, start writing: Congressman E-Mail Addresses (http://www.house.gov/writerep/) and Senator's E-Mail Addresses. (http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm) I have sent an invite to my representative from the first link but I don't have all the information it requires to get the e-mails from each person listed in their site.
I am having problems sending e-mails to the senators but it seems a mass-mailing isn't working so I will do each on individually.

If Knight won't ban me I will even send one to HIllary Clinton since she is the senator for New York.

[firechyld]

54 wise decisions
8 fools


Mmmm, feel that objectivity!

[Free-Agent Smith]

Originally posted by firechyld

Mmmm, feel that objectivity!

Objective or not, it seems to be the majority here at TOL.

[firechyld]

Objective or not, it seems to be the majority here at TOL.

I'm not disputing that.

But the fact that the majority adhere to a stance doesn't make it an objective one.

[Free-Agent Smith]

Originally posted by firechyld

I'm not disputing that.

But the fact that the majority adhere to a stance doesn't make it an objective one.

I would suggest that at least here on ToL, majority rules whether you agree or not.

[Free-Agent Smith]

Originally posted by Aimiel

OK, start writing: Congressman E-Mail Addresses (http://www.house.gov/writerep/) and Senator's E-Mail Addresses. (http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm) I guess non of our elected officials really want to share their ideas about gay marriage on here. It's either that or their spokes people aren't relaying my e-mails.


Aimiel, do you realise how hard it is to get the e-mails of Congressmen on that website if you don't know everyone's ZIP codes? Did you make that intentionally difficult for me?:confused: