An occasional quote.

[Mustard Seed]

Rather than a POTD this is Mustard Seed's QOTD.


More holiness give me, more strivings within.
More patience in suffering, more sorrow for sin.
More faith in my Savior, more sense of His care.
More joy in His service, more purpose in prayer.

More gratitude give me, more trust in the Lord.
More zeal for His glory, more hope in His Word.
More tears for His sorrows, more pain at His grief.
More meekness in trial, more praise for relief.

More purity give me, more strength to o’ercome,
More freedom from earth-stains, more longings for home.
More fit for the kingdom, more useful I’d be,
More blessèd and holy, more, Savior, like Thee.


---Philip Paul Bliss (1838-1876)

[Mustard Seed]

Without some goal and some effort to reach it, no man can live.


---Fyodor Mikhailiovich Dostoevsky

[Mustard Seed]

"When a man has offered in sacrifice all that he has for the truth's sake, not even withholding his life, and believing before God that he has been called to make this sacrifice because he seeks to do his will, he does know, most assuredly, that God does and will accept his sacrifice and offering, and that he has not, nor will not seek his face in vain."

-Joseph Smith Jr. (1835)

[Mustard Seed]

History is a set of lies agreed upon.


-Napoleon Bonaparte

[Mustard Seed]

Thy mind O man! If thou wilt lead a soul unto salvation, must stretch as high as the utmost heavens, and must search into and contemplate the deepest abyss and the broad expanses of eternity.

-Joseph Smith Jr.

[Nietzschean]

I like these quotes. Keep doing it. Find a way to include Nietzsche without commenting on god or the pointlessness of life. :thumb:

[On Fire]

Originally posted by Nietzschean

I like these quotes. Keep doing it. Find a way to include Nietzsche without commenting on god or the pointlessness of life. :thumb:

I would believe only in a god who could dance.

---Fred N.

[On Fire]

NEWSFLASH!!!! GOD DANCES!!!!

This is an inspiring little story that is sure to change the outlook of your day....

Not too long ago I had "one of those days". I was feeling pressure from a writing deadline. I had company arriving in a couple days and the toilet was clogged. I went to the bank, and the trainee teller processing my deposit had to start over three times. I swung by the supermarket to pick up a few things and the lines were serpentine. By the time I got home, I was frazzled and sweaty and in a hurry to get something on the table for dinner.

Deciding on Campbell's Cream of Mushroom Soup, I grabbed a can opener, cranked open the can, then remembered I had forgotten to buy milk at the store. Nix the soup idea. Setting the can aside, I went to plan B, which was leftover baked beans. I grabbed a Tupperware from the fridge, popped the seal, took a look and groaned.

My husband isn't a picky eater, but even HE won't eat baked beans that look like caterpillars. Really frustrated, now, I decided on a menu that promised to be as foolproof as it is nutrition-free: hot dogs and potato chips. Retrieving a brand new bag of chips from the cupboard, I grabbed the cellophane and gave a hearty pull. The bag didn't open.
I tried again.

Nothing happened. I took a breath, doubled my muscle, and gave the bag a hearty wrestle. With a loud pop, the cellophane suddenly gave way, ripping wide from top to bottom. Chips flew sky high. I was left holding the bag, and it was empty.
It was the final straw. I let out a blood curdling scream.

"I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!"

My husband heard my unorthodox cry for help. Within minutes he was standing at the doorway to the kitchen, where he surveyed the damage:

An opened can of soup, melting groceries, moldy baked beans, and one quivering wife standing ankle deep in potato chips. My husband did the most helpful thing he could think of at the moment. He took a flying leap, landing flat-footed in the pile of chips. And then he began to stomp and dance and twirl, grinding those chips into my linoleum in the process! I stared. I fumed. Pretty soon I was working to stifle a smile.

Eventually I had to laugh. And finally I decided to join him.
I, too, took a leap onto the chips. And then I danced.

Now I'll be the first to admit that my husband's response wasn't the one I was looking for. But the truth is, it was exactly what I needed. I didn't need a cleanup crew as much as I needed an attitude adjustment, and the laughter from that rather funky moment provided just that.

So now I have a question for you, and it's simply this: Has God ever stomped on your chips? I know that, in my life, there have been plenty of times when I've gotten myself into frustrating situations and I've cried out for help, all the while hoping God would show up with a celestial broom and clean up the mess I've made of things.

What often happens instead is that God dances on my chips, answering my prayer in a completely different manner than I had expected, but in the manner that is best for me after all. Sometimes I can see right away that God's response was the best one after all. Sometimes I have to wait weeks or months before I begin to understand how and why God answered a particular prayer the way he did. There are even some situations that, years later, I'm still trying to understand. I figure God will fill me in sooner or later, either this side of Heaven or beyond.

Do I trust Him? Even when He's answering my prayers in a way that is completely different from my expectations? Even when He's dancing and stomping instead of sweeping and mopping? Can I embrace what He's offering? Can I let His joy adjust my attitude? Am I going to stand on the sidelines and sulk, or am I willing to learn the steps of the dance He's dancin' with my needs in mind?

I'll be honest with you: Sometimes I sulk. Sometimes I dance. I'm working on doing more of the latter than the former. I guess the older I get the more I realize that He really does know what He's doing. He loves me and I can trust Him. Even when the chips are down.

[Nietzschean]

Originally posted by AtheistsSuck

I would believe only in a god who could dance.

---Fred N.

That's my favorite Nietzschean quote. :)

[On Fire]

Originally posted by Nietzschean

That's my favorite Nietzschean quote. :) :kiss:

[Nietzschean]

Dancing is always a good thing. And to think, naysayers not too long ago, among the Christian crowd, thought dancing was evil.

[Gerald]

Originally posted by Nietzschean
I like these quotes. Keep doing it. Find a way to include Nietzsche without commenting on god or the pointlessness of life. :thumb: "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you."

--Uncle Fred

:D

[Mustard Seed]

Originally posted by Nietzschean

I like these quotes. Keep doing it. Find a way to include Nietzsche without commenting on god or the pointlessness of life. :thumb:

I'll have to research and see if such a feat is possible.

[Nietzschean]

Originally posted by Gerald

"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you."

--Uncle Fred

:D

Vunderschmidt!

[Nietzschean]

Originally posted by Mustard Seed

I'll have to research and see if such a feat is possible.

It is, since Gerald did it.

[Mustard Seed]

Originally posted by Nietzschean

It is, since Gerald did it.

Sorry Gerald. Didn't see that.

[Mustard Seed]

Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.


-Sir Winston Churchill

[Mustard Seed]

"Something has gone radically wrong with secularism. The problem has more than its share of irony, for secularism, in the end, has converted itself into a kind of religion ....

"... Now the transition is complete: the state has become the church." (Peter Marin, "Secularism's Blind Faith," Harper' Magazine, Sept. 1995, 20).

as used in the talk
Becometh As a Child
by Neal A. Maxwell
General Conference, April 1996

[Nietzschean]

I like your quotes.

[Mustard Seed]

Originally posted by Nietzschean

I like your quotes.

Thank you.

[Nietzschean]

S'alright.

[Mustard Seed]

Every individual should value his or her independences and labor with all his might to maintain it by being self-sustaining.

-Elder Marion G. Romney

[Mustard Seed]

34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen?
35 Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men, that they do not learn this one lesson—
36 That the rights of the priesthood are inseparably connected with the powers of heaven, and that the powers of heaven cannot be controlled nor handled only upon the principles of righteousness.
37 That they may be conferred upon us, it is true; but when we undertake to cover our sins, or to gratify our pride, our vain ambition, or to exercise control or dominion or compulsion upon the souls of the children of men, in any degree of unrighteousness, behold, the heavens withdraw themselves; the Spirit of the Lord is grieved; and when it is withdrawn, Amen to the priesthood or the authority of that man.
38 Behold, ere he is aware, he is left unto himself, to kick against the pricks, to persecute the saints, and to fight against God.
39 We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion.
40 Hence many are called, but few are chosen.

Doctrine and Covenants | Section 121:34 - 40



Prayer and prophecies written by Joseph Smith the Prophet, while he was a prisoner in the jail at Liberty, Missouri, dated March 20, 1839. HC 3:289–300. The Prophet with several companions had been months in prison. Their petitions and appeals directed to the executive officers and the judiciary had failed to bring them relief.

Doctrine and Covenants | Section 121:Heading

[Mustard Seed]

...Behold, I say unto you, wickedness never was happiness.


Book of Mormon | Alma 41:10

[Mustard Seed]

"So much of what we call management consists in making it difficult for people to work."
-- Louis (Satchmo) Armstrong (1900-71), American jazz trumpeter

---then my own adaptation.


So much of what we call a proper education consists in making learning difficult, uninspiring and boring.

---Mustard Seed

[Mustard Seed]

Truth is not just in the eye of the beholder, it is all around us. We are made of it and it is our surroundings. The great beauty and redemption is the fact that despite the apparent chaos of our world and the injustice that seems to be nigh all invasive we are imersed in truth and light. Perfection is all around and one's inability to see it is not because it is not possessed or that it is not present it is because the ability of that individual, and all who have lived on earth save one, to discern is clouded. It is discernment that we do or do not possess. The truth is at least as present as our existance.


-Mustard Seed

[Nietzschean]

“That that is is that that is not is not is that it it is”

A crazy guy in an asylum. Name the person if you can, add in the proper punctuation and you get a point!

[Mustard Seed]

The following was said in response to Hugh W. Nibley after he spontaneously, and without notes, quoted thirty lines of Greek poetry in it's original Greek at a Biblical Society meeting.





"It is obscene for a man to know that much."

---Jesuit George MacRae

[Mustard Seed]

"Eternalism. The Gospel is founded on tangible and eternal things and relationships. These eternal realities, no doubt... ...transcend human understanding. Nevertheless, this conception, carried far enough, leads to a gospel or life philosophy which is unshakable, because it rests on eternal certainty...

The Gospel may be said to be The Philosophy of Eternalism. The Gospel is immersed in the ocean of eternity."

--Dr. John A. Widtsoe, A Rational Theology 1915

[Mustard Seed]

There are only two powers in the world, the sword and the spirit. In the long run the sword will always be conquered by the spirit.








--Napoleon

[Mustard Seed]

Then shall the righteous man stand in great boldness before the face of such as have afflicted him, and made no acount of his labours.

When they shall see it, they shall be troubled with terrible fear, and shall be amazed at the strangeness of his salvation, so far beyond all they looked for.

And they repenting and groaning for anguish of spirit shall say within themselves, This was he, whom we had sometimes in derision, and a proverb of reproach:

Wisdom of Solomon 5:1-3




NOVA: Have you ever had doubts about string theory?

Greene: All the time! I mean, it is a very strange research career, in a way. So far I've spent something like 17 years working on a theory for which there is essentially no direct experimental support. It's a very precarious way to live and to work.

The funny thing is, I sometimes get the impression that some people outside of the field think that there's some element of security that we have in working on a theory that hasn't made any predictions that can be proven false. In a sense, we're working on something unfalsifiable. And there sometimes is a sense that we're happy about that. But let me state categorically, if the theory is wrong, I'd like to know it today so I wouldn't waste my time on it any longer.

Above quote taken from

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/greene.html


But verification is not proof, and the questions these little items raise must remain forever unsolved, the discusion forever open. Then why do we bother about them? Because one learns to understand a problem only by living with it, and by studying these things on can personaly acquire those impresions and bits of information that will make it possible for him to reach his own decisions and direct his own researches.

--Hugh Nibley, Since Cumorah p. 406.




According to present ideas, the change in the nucleic acid [which determines the nature of protein molecules formed in a cell] is accomplished through random variation.... If I were trying to pass a biology examination, I would vigorously support this theory. Yet in my mind I have neve been able to accept fully the idea that the adaption and the harmonious building of those complex biological systems, involving simultaneous changes in thousands of genes, are the results of molecular accidents.... The probability that all these genes should have changed together through random variation is practically zero.... I have always been seeking some higher organizing principe that is leading the living system toward improvement and adaptation. I know this is biological heresy,.... e.g. I do not think that the extremely complex speech center of the human brain... was created by random mutations that happened to improve the chances of survival of individuals.... I cannot accept the notion that this capacity arose through random alterations, relying on the survival of the fittest. I believe that some principles must have guided the development toward the kind of speech center that was needed.

--Albert Szent-Gyorgyi (1937 Nobel Prize winner)




Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?


(New Testament | Mark 8:37)



In one of those tedious nights we had lain as if in sleep till the hour of midnight had passed, and our ears and hearts bad been pained, while we had listened for hours to the obscene jests, the horrid oaths, the dreadful blasphemies and filthy language of our guards, Colonel Price at their head, as they recounted to each other their deeds of rapine, murder, robbery, etc., which they had committed among the "Mormons" while at Far West and vicinity. They even boasted of defiling by force wives, daughters and virgins, and of shooting or dashing out the brains of men, women and children.

I had listened till I became so disgusted, shocked, horrified, and so filled with the spirit of indignant justice that I could scarcely refrain from rising upon my feet and rebuking the guards; but had said nothing to Joseph, or any one else, although I lay next to him and knew he was awake. On a sudden he arose to his feet, and spoke in a voice of thunder, or as the roaring lion, uttering, as near as I can recollect, the following words:

SILENCE, ye fiends of the infernal pit. In the name of Jesus Christ I rebuke you, and command you to be still; I will not live another minute and hear such language. Cease such talk, or you or I die THIS INSTANT!

He ceased to speak. He stood erect in terrible majesty. Chained, and without a weapon; calm, unruffled and dignified as an angel, he looked upon the quailing guards, whose weapons were lowered or dropped to the ground; whose knees smote together, and who, shrinking into a corner, or crouching at his feet, begged his pardon, and remained quiet till a change of guards.

I have seen the ministers of justice, clothed in magisterial robes, and criminals arraigned before them, while life was suspended on a breath, in the Courts of England; I have witnessed a Congress in solemn session to give laws to nations; I have tried to conceive of kings, of royal courts, of thrones and crowns; and of emperors assembled to decide the fate of kingdoms; but dignity and majesty have I seen but once, as it stood in chains, at midnight, in a dungeon in an obscure village of Missouri.


--The Autobiography of Parley P. Pratt

[Mustard Seed]

"Every time they persecute and try to overcome this people, they elevate us, weaken their own hands, and strengthen the hands and arms of this people. And every time they undertake to lessen our number, they increase it."



--Discourses of Brigham Young, 351

[Mustard Seed]

1 AND now I, Nephi, proceed to give an account upon these plates of my proceedings, and my reign and ministry; wherefore, to proceed with mine account, I must speak somewhat of the things of my father, and also of my brethren.
2 For behold, it came to pass after my father had made an end of speaking the words of his dream, and also of exhorting them to all diligence, he spake unto them concerning the Jews—
3 That after they should be destroyed, even that great city Jerusalem, and many be carried away captive into Babylon, according to the own due time of the Lord, they should return again, yea, even be brought back out of captivity; and after they should be brought back out of captivity they should possess again the land of their inheritance.
4 Yea, even six hundred years from the time that my father left Jerusalem, a prophet would the Lord God raise up among the Jews—even a Messiah, or, in other words, a Savior of the world.
5 And he also spake concerning the prophets, how great a number had testified of these things, concerning this Messiah, of whom he had spoken, or this Redeemer of the world.
6 Wherefore, all mankind were in a lost and in a fallen state, and ever would be save they should rely on this Redeemer.
7 And he spake also concerning a prophet who should come before the Messiah, to prepare the way of the Lord—

1 Nephi 10:1 - 7

[Mustard Seed]

Is there such a thing as being superstitiously non-superstitious? Or dogmatically non-dogmatic?

-Mustard Seed

[Mustard Seed]

I've been slacking as of late in this. I know I have one that has enjoyed my postings. Anyone else? Do you like it? Do you not like it? What are your favorites? Why?

[Mustard Seed]

Is the generalization that 'All generalizations are wrong' wrong?

--Mustard Seed

[Mustard Seed]

“If men do not comprehend the character of God, they do not comprehend themselves.�


--Joseph Smith

( History of the Church, 6:303. )

[Mustard Seed]

"What are we afraid of? What do men fear most? Believe it or not, it is joy. Against joy society erects it's most massive bulwarks. The gospel is a message of terrifying joy. What is the culmination of all joy? To stand in the presence of God and behold his face---we don't need to argue that point. Yet what is the most frightening prospect that mortal man can imagine? Certainly, to stand in the presence of God and behold his face!"

--Hugh Nibley
The World and the Prophets

[Mustard Seed]

36 And Terah entered the room and found all the idols fallen down and broken, and the hatchet in the hand of the largest, which was not broken and the savory meat which Abraham his son had made was still before them.
37 And when Terah saw this his anger was greatly kindled, and he hastened and went from the room to Abram.
38 And he found Abram his son still sitting in the house; and he said to him, What is this work thou hast done to my gods?
39 And Abram answered Terah his father and he said, Not so my lord, for I brought savory meat before them, and when I came nigh to them with the meat that they might eat, they all at once stretched forththeir hands to eat before the great one had put forth his hand to eat.
40 And the large one saw their works that they did before him, and his anger was violently kindled against them, and he went and took the hatchet that was in the house and came to them and broke them all, and behold the hatchet is yet in his hand as thou seest.
41 And Terah's anger was kindled against his son Abram, when he spoke this; and Terah said to Abram his son in his anger, What is this tale that thou hast told? Thou speakest lies to me.
42 Is there in these gods spirit, soul or power to do all thou hast told me? Are they not wood and stone, and have I not myself made them, and canst thou speak such lies, saying that the large god that was with them smote them? It is thou that didst place the hatchet in his hands, and then saying he smote them all.
43 And Abram answered his father and said to him, And how canst thou then serve these idols in whom there is no power to do anything? Can those idols in which thou trustest deliver thee? can they hear thy prayers when thou callest upon them? can they deliver thee from the hands of thy enemies, that thou shoudst serve sood and stone which can neither speak nor hear?

Book of Jasher 10:36-43

[Mustard Seed]

The redeeming presence of our loving Father-God in the universe is the grand fact pertaining to the human condition. It is the supernal truth which, along with His plan of happiness, reigns preeminent and imperial over all other realities. Other truths, by comparison, are merely fleeting factoids about which we may be "ever learning" without coming to a knowledge of the grand truths (2 Tim. 3:7).

Mortal experience points evermore to the Atonement of Jesus Christ as the central act of all human history. The more I learn and experience, the more unselfish, stunning, and encompassing His Atonement becomes!

-
Elder Neal A. Maxwell


Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

http://www.lds.org/conference/talk/display/0,5232,23-1-64-4,00.html

[Mustard Seed]

17 Think of your brethren like unto yourselves, and be familiar with all and free with your substance, that they may be rich like unto you.
18 But before ye seek for riches, seek ye for the kingdom of God.

(Book of Mormon | Jacob 2:17 - 18)

[Mustard Seed]

"Educational uniformity, with all of the efficiency it has produced, tends also to produce a kind of bureaucratic, deadining effect. Too much uniformity can turn youn people off and make it difficult for them to respond."

-Elder Neal A. Maxwell, A Time to Chose

Amen!

[Mustard Seed]

I think so Brain. But where we gonna find rubber gloves for an elephant?

-Pinky

[Mustard Seed]

Is he a dot? Or is he a spec? When he's under water does he get wet? Or does the water get him instead? Nobody knows. Particle Man

--Particle Man by They Might Be Giants

[Mustard Seed]

Money is like muck, not good except it be spread.

--Francis Bacon

<I think we can all guess the modern equiv. to the word 'muck'>

[Mustard Seed]

We're looking for meanning
We're longing for light
We're aimlessly dreaming
Somewhere out in the night
We look at each other
And we wonder whose right
Pushing out our opinions
All gift wrapped in pride

--LOOK TO THE HEAVENS, song by Greg Simpson from the album SEVEN WONDERS

[Mustard Seed]

There is no end to virtue; There is no end to might;
There is no end to wisdom; There is no end to light.
There is no end to union; There is no end to youth;
There is no end to priesthood; There is no end to truth.

There is no end to glory; There is no end to love;
There is no end to being; There is no death above.
There is no end to glory; There is no end to love;
There is no end to being; There is no death above.

--verses four and five of If You Could Hie To Kolob by William W. Phelps

[Mustard Seed]

"The day is not far distant when this nation will be shaken from center to cicumference ... When the people shall have torn to shreds the Constitution of the United States the Elders of Israel will be found holding it up to the nations of the earth and proclaiming liberty."

--President John Taylor

[Mustard Seed]

The following is relating the response of Joseph Smith to a woman seeking redress for gossip etc. as related by Truman G. Madsen

...she wanted the Prophet now to go to the person who was the source of the story and properly take care of it. He enquired of her in some detail and then counseled her in terms something like this: "Sister, when I have heard a story about me [and he could have said there have been many], I sit down and think about it and pray about it , and I ask myself the question, 'Did I say something or was there something in my manner to give some basis for that story to start?' And, Sister, often if I think about it long enough I realize I have done something to give that basis. And there wells up in me a forgivness of the person who has told that story, and a resolve that I will never do that thing again."...

...the spirit of his counsel to himslef as to this sister was..."Look deeper, Brother, and see if maybe there is a kernel of truth in what they are saying." That, I suggest, shows wisdom.

--Excerpt from Joseph Smith the Prophet by Truman G. Madsen pages 94-95--emphasis added

[Mustard Seed]

I do not dwell upon your faults, and you shall not on mine. Charity, which is love, covereth a multitude of sins...

...Have the Presbyterians any truth? Yes. Have the Baptists, Methodists, etc., any truth? Yes. They all have a little truth mixed with error. We should gather all the good and true principles in the world and treasure them up, or we shall not come out true
"Mormons."

--Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smithcompiled by Joseph

Fielding Smith page 316

[Granite]

Boy. You guys brought a lotta guns...
--Joseph Smith's last words (apocryphal)

:rolleyes:

[Mustard Seed]

"Oh Lord my God!"

--Joseph Smith

"I am a dead man"

--Hyrum Smith

[Mustard Seed]

"The law has been used to destroy it's own objective: It has been applied to annihilating the justice that it was suppose to maintain; to limiting and destroying rights which it's real purpose was to respect. The law has placed the collective force at the disposal of the unscrupulous who wish, without risk, to exploit the person, liberty, and property of others. It has converted plunder into a right, in order to protect plunder. And it has converted lawful defense into a crime, in order to punish lawful defense...

...The law has been perverted by the influence of two entirely different causes: stupid greed and false philanthropy."

--Frederic Bastiat, The Law p.9

[Jackielabby]

Originally posted by Mustard Seed


Soon all the churches of the devil (non-Mormon churches) will be destroyed. 22:23
When exactly?

[Mustard Seed]

Soon all the churches of the devil (non-Mormon churches) will be destroyed. 22:23
When exactly?


???"22:23"???

"exactly?"

???

"Quien Sabe Rd."

--Name of a road seen on a map


"...Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil;..."

--1 Nephi 14:10

Church...

Etymology: Middle English chirche, from Old English cirice, ultimately from Late Greek kyriakon, from Greek, neuter of kyriakos of the lord


Lord...

Etymology: Middle English loverd, lord, from Old English hlAford, from hlAf loaf + weard keeper -- more at LOAF, WARD

-- www.m-w.com (emphasis added)

"...but as for me and my house we will serve the Lord"

--Joshua 24:15

"Baal. Lord, possessor. The Sun-god and the male generative principle in nature. The principle seat and source of his cult was Phonecia... ...The word Baal expresses the relation between lord and slave. Becoming utterly abominable from it's associations, its use was abjured and Bosheth (shame) was substituted in names compounded with it."

--Bible Dictionary

"How long halt ye between two opinions"

--1 Kings 18:21


_"And Jesus left them, and went upon the Mount of Olives. And as he sat upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying: Tell us when shall these things be which thou hast said concerning the destruction of the temple, and the Jews; and what is the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world, or the destruction of the wicked, which is the end of the world?

5_And Jesus answered, and said unto them..."

http://scriptures.lds.org/js_m/1

--Joseph Smith--Matthew 1:4-5..., Pearl of Great Price

[BillyBob]

Roses are Red
Violets are Purple
Sugar is Sweet
And so is Maple Surple -Roger Miller

[Mustard Seed]

"I want to go on living even after my death"

--Anne Frank

[Mustard Seed]

Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that it shall no more be said, The Lord liveth that brought up the childeren of Israel out of the land of Egypt;

But, The Lord liveth, that brought up the childeren of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers.

Jeremiah 16:14-15

[Mustard Seed]

With respect to trying to understand the fairer sex I find the lyrics to this song appropriate

DIVE DEEP
(Julie de Azevedo)




Don't try to pin it down
It slips through the cracks of your fingers
Like rain in the cracks of thirsty ground




It's not something to figure out
It's nothing you can know inside your head
It won't fit in a box - it doesn't add up
It's nothing you did - nothing you said




I've gotta feel free to be
Waves of woman - waves of sea




CHORUS



Dive deep into this ocean
Brave uncharted sea
You'll never own me
If you want to hold me - dive deep
Dive deep into this ocean
Cradle any jewel
Swim with the lover
Dance with the mother
Kiss the wife and laugh with the girl




Will you find something more
Catching light amid debris
With the destination of discovery
It's not something to figure out
It's nothing you will find upon the shore
Gotta ride the waves
Survive the storm
There's treasure on the ocean floor

[Mustard Seed]

...the fog is rising.


--Emily Dickenson

[Mustard Seed]

"When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it consentrates his mind wonderfully"

--Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)

[Mustard Seed]

"WHEN I SEE DEPRESSING CREATURES
WITH UNPREPOSSESSING FEATURES
I REMIND THEM ON THEIR OWN BEHALF
TO THINK OF
CELEBRATED HEADS OF STATE OR
SPECIALLY GREAT COMMUNICATORS
DID THEY HAVE BRAINS OR KNOWLEDGE?
DON’T MAKE ME LAUGH!


THEY WERE POPULAR! PLEASE--
IT’S ALL ABOUT POPULAR!
IT’S NOT ABOUT APTITUDE
IT’S THE WAY YOU’RE VIEWED
SO IT’S VERY SHREWD TO BE
VERY VERY POPULAR
LIKE ME!"


-GALINDA from the song "Popular" in the musical Wicked

[Mustard Seed]

"It is the House of Israel we are after, and we care not whether they come from the east, the west, the north, or the south; from China, Russia, England, California, North or South America, or some other locality; and it is the very lad on whom Father Jacob laid his hands, that will save the House of Israel. The Book of Mormon came to Ephraim, for Joseph Smith was a pure Ephramite."

--Brigham Young

[Mustard Seed]

3*Joseph Smith, the Prophet and Seer of the Lord, has done more, save Jesus only, for the salvation of men in this world, than any other man that ever lived in it. In the short space of twenty years, he has brought forth the Book of Mormon, which he translated by the gift and power of God, and has been the means of publishing it on two continents; has sent the fulness of the everlasting gospel, which it contained, to the four quarters of the earth; has brought forth the revelations and commandments which compose this book of Doctrine and Covenants, and many other wise documents and instructions for the benefit of the children of men; gathered many thousands of the Latter-day Saints, founded a great city, and left a fame and name that cannot be slain. He lived great, and he died great in the eyes of God and his people; and like most of the Lord’s anointed in ancient times, has sealed his mission and his works with his own blood; and so has his brother Hyrum. In life they were not divided, and in death they were not separated!

--THE DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS

[SOTK]

Matthew 7:15-23

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

[logos_x]

Salvation is not some felicitous state to which we can lift ourselves by our own bootstraps after the contemplation of sufficiently good examples. It is an utterly new creation into which we are brought by our death in Jesus' death and our resurrection in his. It comes not out of our own best efforts, however well-inspired or successfully pursued, but out of the shipwreck of all human efforts whatsoever. --Robert Farrer Capon

[Mustard Seed]

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

--Matt. 7:16-17

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law

Gal. 5:22-23

24*Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.
25*And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.

26*I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:

27*But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

1 Cor. 9:24-27

[Mustard Seed]

KNOWLEDGE. Intelligence, as light and truth, is the glory of God (D&C 93:36). Mind is eternal, with access to the vast reaches of the eternities, and knowledge is essential to salvation: "One is saved no faster than he gets knowledge" (TPJS, p. 217); and he gains knowledge of the truths of the gospel no faster than he is saved—that is, no faster than he receives Christ into his life. "Knowledge through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is the grand key that unlocks the glory and mysteries of the kingdom of heaven" (TPJS, p. 298). "God hath not revealed anything to Joseph, but what He will make known unto the Twelve, and even the least Saint may know all things as fast as he is able to bear them" (TPJS, p. 149).


Knowledge of God and divine things comes through the Spirit. Revelation includes the visible presence, visions, dreams, the visitations of angels and spirits, impressions, voices, prophetic flashes of inspiration and light, and the flow of pure intelligence into mind and heart. Such direct communications are essential to the religious life of every person. At least one gift of the spirit is given to each person of faith. "It is impossible to receive the Holy Ghost and not receive revelation" (TPJS, p. 256). "No man can know that Jesus is the Lord but by the Holy Ghost" (WJS, p. 115). "No generation was ever saved or destroyed upon dead testimony neither can be; but by living" (WJS, p. 159). Within limits, these experiences can be verbalized and communicated.


PURPOSE OF LIFE: JOY. "Happiness is the object and design of our existence" (TPJS, p. 255). "We came to this earth that we might have a body and present it pure before God in the Celestial Kingdom" (TPJS, p. 181). Glorified bodies have powers and privileges over those who have not, and to be denied or separated from the body is bondage. The combination of spirit body and physical body can maximize joy (D&C 93:33-34).


God's glory is to work for the benefit of other beings. Likewise, man cannot find himself until he loses himself in the Christlike desire to elevate, benefit, and bless others (PWJS, p. 483). Even in mortality, members of the family of God may begin to experience the joy that will be in full hereafter (TPJS, p. 296).


--Teachings of Joseph Smith by Truman G. Madsen

[Mustard Seed]

"If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted as true is really true, there would be little hope of advance."

--Orville Wright

[logos_x]

Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?-- Abraham Lincoln

[SOTK]

"When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him"
(Deuteronomy 18:22)

[logos_x]

I saw that the kingdom must be interior before it can be exterior, that it is a kingdom of ideas, and not one of brute force; that His rule is over hearts, not over places; that His victories must be inward before they can be outward; that He seeks to control spirits rather than bodies; that no triumph could satisfy Him but a triumph that gains the heart; that in short, where God really reigns, the surrender must be the interior surrender of the convicted free men, and not merely the outward surrender of the conquered slave.--Hannah Whitall Smith

[Mustard Seed]

32*Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.


--Luke 21:32

[Mustard Seed]

There is a common axiom among us which states: A religion that cannot save a man temporally does not have power to save him spiritually. If we cannot care for our temporal needs in this world, how can we ever succeed in spiritual things in the world to come?



Thus, speaking of temporal things—of lands and houses and crops, of work and sweat and toil, of the man Adam eating his bread in the sweat of his face (see Gen. 3:19)—the Lord says: “If you will that I give unto you a place in the celestial world, you must prepare yourselves by doing the things which I have commanded you and required of you” (D&C 78:7).



Then he commands both the Church and its members “to prepare and organize” their temporal affairs according to the law of his gospel, “that through my providence,” saith the Lord, “notwithstanding the tribulation which shall descend upon you, that the church may stand independent above all other creatures beneath the celestial world;



“That you may come up unto the crown prepared for you, and be made rulers over many kingdoms, saith the Lord God” (D&C 78:11, 14–15).



The Church, which administers the gospel, and the Saints who have received the gospel, must be independent of all the powers of earth, as they work out their salvation—temporally and spiritually—with fear and trembling before the Lord!

-taken from this talk (http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll?f=templates$fn=default.htm$xhitlist_q= %22temporal%20welfare%22%20%22spiritual%20welfare% 22$xhitlist_x=Simple$xhitlist_s=relevance-weight$xhitlist_d=$xhitlist_hc=%5BXML%5D%5Bkwic%2C 0%5D$xhitlist_xsl=xhitlist.xsl$xhitlist_vpc=first$ xhitlist_sel=title%3Bpath%3Bcontent-type%3Bhome-title%3Bhit-context%3Bfield%3Azr%3Bfield%3ARef)





...a religion that does not require the sacrifice of all things never has power sufficient to produce the faith necessary unto life and salvation...

--Lectures on Faith

[Mustard Seed]

"With friends like this, who needs enemies?"

--Unknown

[SOTK]

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!"

Galatians 1:8

[logos_x]

In the end and consummation of the Universe all are to be restored into their original harmonious state, and we all shall be made one body and be united once more into a perfect man and the prayer of our Savior shall be fulfilled that all may be one. --St. Jerome, 331-420

[Mustard Seed]

When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!

...I had actually seen a light, and in the midst of that light I saw two Personages, and they did in reality speak to me; and though I was hated and persecuted for saying that I had seen a vision, yet it was true; and while they were persecuting me, reviling me, and speaking all manner of evil against me falsely for so saying, I was led to say in my heart: Why persecute me for telling the truth? I have actually seen a vision; and who am I that I can withstand God, or why does the world think to make me deny what I have actually seen? For I had seen a vision; I knew it, and I knew that God knew it, and I could not deny it, neither dared I do it; at least I knew that by so doing I would offend God, and come under condemnation.

--Joseph Smith History[





6*And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

--Rev. 14:6


42 Now, there is a death which is called a temporal death; and the death of Christ shall loose the bands of this temporal death, that all shall be raised from this temporal death.
43*The spirit and the body shall be reunited again in its perfect form; both limb and joint shall be restored to its proper frame, even as we now are at this time; and we shall be brought to stand before God, knowing even as we know now, and have a bright recollection of all our guilt.
44*Now, this restoration shall come to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, both the wicked and the righteous; and even there shall not so much as a hair of their heads be lost; but every thing shall be restored to its perfect frame, as it is now, or in the body, and shall be brought and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one Eternal God, to be judged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil.

--Alma 11:42-44

[Mustard Seed]

3*Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

2 Thes 2:3

[Mustard Seed]

46*And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.

--Matt 22:46

[Chileice]

If you sleep with dogs, you will awaken with fleas!
:dog: :dead:

[Mustard Seed]

The bed is a bundle of paradoxes: we go to it with reluctance, yet we quit it with regret; we make up our minds every night to leave it early, but we make up our bodies every morning to keep it late.


- Ogden Nash

[logos_x]

In each dispensation, God has a definite and different immediate purpose, all working toward the ultimate purpose of ridding the universe of all rebellion, so that all free moral agents will be willingly and eternlly subject to God, Christ, and the Holy Ghost, as originally planned, with God all in all forever.

--Finis Dake, "Notes on Genesis" in Dake's Bible

[Carver]

A man must be partly a one-idea man because he is a one-weaponed man -- and he is flung naked into the fight. In short, he must (as the books on Success say) give 'his best'; and what a small part of a man 'his best' is! His second and third best are often much better. If he is the first violin he must fiddle for life; he must not remember that he is a fine fourth bagpipe, a fair fifteenth billiard-cue, a foil, a fountain-pen, a hand at whist, a gun, and an image of God. - G.K. Chesterton

[Mustard Seed]

The Savior knew that the ox falls in the mire, but he knew also that no ox deliberatly goes into the mire every week.

--Spencer W. Kimball

[Mustard Seed]

For behold, this is my work and my glory—to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man

--Moses 1:39

[Chileice]

"Believing I had supernatural powers, I slammed into a brick wall." --Paul Simon

[Mustard Seed]

29*And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus.

--Matt. 14: 29





19*¶ Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

--John 20: 19




26*¶ And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.

--John 20: 26



20*And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

--Matt. 17: 20


50*And I said unto them: If God had commanded me to do all things I could do them. If he should command me that I should say unto this water, be thou earth, it should be earth; and if I should say it, it would be done.

--1 Ne. 17: 50

[logos_x]

The wonder is that Jesus purposed to make your heart and mine just as sweet and lovely and pure and holy as His own. –John G. Lake

[Mustard Seed]

The Prophet recognizes the scholar for what he is, but the scholar does not return the compliment. He cannot conceive how anyone could possibly acquire knowledge by any method other than his. He cannot believe that any man has experienced anything which he has not experienced. The great Dutch scholar Quispel is at present in showing how this narrow prejudice of the experts has rendered them incapable of comprehending the true nature of the primitive church. "I have never seen a vision" says the scholar, "therefore Joseph Smith never had one. I have seen dreams, therefore I will allow him that."

--Hugh Niblley, The World and The Prophets, pg.27

[Mustard Seed]

14*Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

--Isa. 29: 14

[Mustard Seed]

"Que mosca te pico?


--Dicho de origen desconocido a Semilla de Mostaza

[logos_x]

Although John Wesley is not on record as a universalist, he was greatly influenced by the Moravians, many of whom were universalists. He quoted from Sixteen Discourses (Moravian Literature), the following statement

“By his (Christ’s) name, all can and shall obtain life and salvation.”

One of Wesley’s intimate friends, Peter Bohler wrote:

“All the damned souls shall yet be brought up out of hell.”
(Bohler was made the Bishop of American Moravians, next in rank to Zinzendorf).
–Source: A Cloud of Witnesses, by John Wesley Hanson, p 54

[Mustard Seed]

...man never lived of whom more has been said and sung, none to whom is devoted a greater portion of the world's literature. He is extolled by Christian, Mohammedan and Jew, by skeptic and infidel, by the world's greatest poets, philosophers,statesmen, scientists and historians. Even the profane sinner in the foul sacrilege of his oath acclaims the divine supremacy of Him whose name he desecrates.

--James E. Talmage, Jesus the Christ p.3

[Mustard Seed]

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[logos_x]

There is only one-way in which one can endure man's inhumanity to man and that is to try, in one's own life, to exemplify man's humanity to man. --Alan Paton

[Mustard Seed]

No success can compensate for failure in the home.

- David O. MacKay

[logos_x]

If you have eternal life at all, it simply means that you have the Son, Jesus Christ * NOW! Eternal life is not a peculiar feeling inside! It is not your ultimate destination, to which you will go when you are dead. If you are born again, eternal life is that quality of life that you possess right now, at this very moment, in your own physical body, with your own two feet on the ground, and in the world TODAY! And where does this life come from? Of Him! He is that life! So if you have eternal life, it means that you have Somebody, Jesus Christ, and the life that you possess is of Him.

--W. Ian Thomas

[Mustard Seed]

Eternal life is God's life, and God's life is eternal life. We are commanded to be perfect as he is perfect and to advance and progress until we become like him, or in other words, until we gain eternal life.


--Bruce R. McConkie, The Mortal Messiah, Vol.1, p.23

[logos_x]

The reason for not going out and sinning all you like is the same as the
reason for not going out and putting your nose in a slicing machine: its
dumb, stupid, and no fun. Some individual sins may have pleasure still
attached to them because of the residual goodness of the realities they
are abusing: adultery can indeed be pleasant and tying one on can amuse.
But betrayal, jealousy, love grown cold, and the gray dawn of the morning
after are nobody's idea of a good time.

--Robert Farrer Capon

[SOTK]

"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book (Word of God), If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city and from the things which are written in this book." (Revelation 22:18-19)

[SOTK]

"I have more to boast of than any man had. I am the only man that has been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from him, but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet." ( History of the Church", Vol. 6, pp. 408-409. 1884).

:vomit:

[logos_x]

You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do. --Anne Lamott

[Redfin]

"Always believe the best about everyone - it's so much easier than trying to actually figure them out."
--Unknown

[Mustard Seed]

Luther chose to omit parts of the Old Testament that were found in the Greek Septuagint but not in the Hebrew Masoretic texts then available. These were included in his earliest translation, but later removed, along with James, Jude, and Revelations, because they did not hold up his ideas on Justification by 'faith alone.'


http://www.answers.com/topic/martin-luther

emphasis added

[Mustard Seed]

"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

"And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

In those verses, John, who is in exile on the Isle of Patmos, is obviously referring to the text before him - the Book of Revelation and its prophecies, its descriptions of plagues, its discussion of the holy city, etc. - and urges no one to change what he has written. The Bible as a collection of canonized books did not exist when he wrote those lines. In fact, several non-LDS authorities believe that Revelation was not the last book of the Bible to be written, but may have preceded other writings of John himself by a couple of years. Nevertheless, what John wrote is true: no man should change what God has spoken. However, God has the authority to speak what and when He wants. God spoke to other prophets after Moses (the injunction against men adding to the word in Deut. 4:2 not being applicable to the case of God adding to His words), and many of their divinely commissioned writings have been preserved in the Bible.

--Jeff Linday

www.jefflinday.com

[Mustard Seed]

____For a long time the world refused to look upon Mormons as Christians. Indeed most people still think of them as a terium quid, unique and isolated from all other creatures.There is some justice in this viewpoint if one defines a Christian as one who subscribes to the creeds of Christendom, but the dictionary gives no such definition: for it, a Christian is simply one who believes in Christ, with nothing said about adherence to formulae describing his nature devised three hundred years after his death. The Latter-day Saints do not accept the oecumenical creeds because they were not given by the power of revelation but worked out by committees of experts. As we noted last week, the early church could not make too much of the inability of philosophers to discover the nature of God, yet the first and greatest of the councils, that of Nicaea, may be described without exaggeration as a philosopher's field day. Let us consider briefly a few steps that led to the formation of the Nicene Creed.

____It all began when Bishop Alexander of Alexandria "one day in a meeting of his presbyters and the rest of the clergy under him, theorized in a rather showy way (philitimoteron) on the subject of the Holy Trinity, philosophizing to the effect that in a triad was really a monad. Arius, one of the presbyters under his authority and a man not unskilled in dialectic give and take ... took the extreme opposite position just to show how much smarter he was (out of philoneikias) ... and replied bitingly to the things the Bishop had said." Socrates, the historian, concludes a summary of Arius' speech on this occasion by saying, "Constructing his syllogism by this novel reasoning, he attracted everybodies attention, and with a small spark lit a mighty blaze." Now isn't this a perfect illustration of those very vices and follies for which the original Christians condemned philosophy? The bishop, philosophizing in a showy way, not seeking truth but just being smart, using technical terms---triad and monad---unknown to the scripture, is refuted by a clergyman carefully trained in that dialectic art which the early Fathers so abhorred; he too, animated not by love of truth but by a desire to outshine the bishop---such is the spirit in which the great investigation begins.

...And these men were the men who were to make the creeds...

--Hugh Nibley, The World and The Prophets, p.40-42

[Mustard Seed]

Education is a method by which one acquires a higher grade of prejudices.

--Laurence J. Peter

[Mustard Seed]

The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good.


--George Washington

[Mustard Seed]

70 And it shall be said among the wicked: Let us not go up to battle against Zion, for the inhabitants of Zion are terrible; wherefore we cannot stand.

--Doctrine and Covenants 45:70

[logos_x]

In Christ, troubles are turned into triumph, so in Him we look at what is coming as the times of the greatest triumphs the world has ever known! The conclusion of all things is that we win! The cross will prevail. This is the foundational truth that all of our understanding of these times must be based on.--Rick Joyner

[Mustard Seed]

They're rioting in Africa. They're starving in Spain. There's hurricanes in Florida and Texas needs rain.
The whole world is festering with unhappy souls. The French hate the Germans. The Germans hate the Poles.
Italians hate Yugoslavs. South Africans hate the Dutch and I don't like anybody very much!
But we can be tranquil and thankful and proud for man's been endowed with a mushroom shaped cloud.
And we know for certain that some lovely day someone will set the spark off and we will all be blown away.
They're rioting in Africa. There's strife in Iran. What nature doesn't do to us will be done by our fellow man.

-Kingston Trio "The Merry Minuet" lyrics

[logos_x]

The characteristic of holiness, which is the outcome of the indwelling of God, is blazing truthfulness with regard to God's word and an amazing tenderness in personal dealings. --Oswald Chambers

[Mustard Seed]

"Ya! Yor pwobabwy wight!"

--Homestarrunner

[servent101]

logosXThe characteristic of holiness, which is the outcome of the indwelling of God, is blazing truthfulness with regard to God's word and an amazing tenderness in personal dealings. --Oswald Chambers

what does he mean by "blazing truthfulness with regard to God's word" ... if one were truthful in regard to God's Word - one would not accept the closed canon, not that the Bible was not from God... just that the closing of the canon was not instructed, and the idea that any Scriptures from other cultures, far removed from the isolated geographical location that the Israiles live in - were from the Devil.

To me "blazing truthfulness with regard to God's word" means to stand up to people who use the Bible as a means to condemn any and all "Wisdom" not found literally from their own book and to point out that the attempt to worship such a diabolical monster that they try to by taking what is metaphore as literal - they simply go insane.

Holyness can be attained through careful study and application of what is in the Good News, but some people just get confused by it ( a higher than average number here at TOL) and live pathetic lives of trying to condemn their neighbours for not having the same literal interpretation that they do.

Anyways it is just that everyone and their dog thinks that they have a "blazing truthfulness with regard" to whatever they believe... even those who simply believe they will have another beer.

With Christ's Love

servent101

[Mustard Seed]

9 We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

--9th Article of Faith

[shilohproject]

Find a way to include Nietzsche without commenting on god or the pointlessness of life. :thumb:Does such a quote exist?

[shilohproject]

The characteristic of holiness, which is the outcome of the indwelling of God, is blazing truthfulness with regard to God's word and an amazing tenderness in personal dealings. --Oswald Chambers"I'm just a patsy." --Lee Harvy Oswald

(Oh, is this not the association game? So sorry. Carry on.):cool:

[Mustard Seed]

"I'm just a patsy." --Lee Harvy Oswald

(Oh, is this not the association game? So sorry. Carry on.):cool:


"It is what it is..."

--John Barlow

<<<****DISCLAIMER****: I've actualy not heard the song and do not know the context. I just googled a phrase I thought was appropriate as a response. So the quote's original context was not known or considered before I posted this. Any stupid, funny, or inappropriate possible links made by those reading are not intentional on the part of the author of this post>>>

[servent101]

Mustard Seed 9 We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

And as far as what we assume, making ourselves stumbling blocks to the people at large... well hopefully there is some people watching for that as well - as it really does not fall under artical 9.

With Christ's Love

servent101

[Mustard Seed]

Mustard Seed

And as far as what we assume, making ourselves stumbling blocks to the people at large... well hopefully there is some people watching for that as well - as it really does not fall under artical 9.

With Christ's Love

servent101

10 And now, my beloved brethren, and also Jew, and all ye ends of the earth, hearken unto these words and believe in Christ; and if ye believe not in these words believe in Christ. And if ye shall believe in Christ ye will believe in these words, for they are the words of Christ, and he hath given them unto me; and they teach all men that they should do good.

11 And if they are not the words of Christ, judge ye—for Christ will show unto you, with power and great glory, that they are his words, at the last day; and you and I shall stand face to face before his bar; and ye shall know that I have been commanded of him to write these things, notwithstanding my weakness.

--2 Nephi 33:10-11

[servent101]

mustard Seed - what you posted was good, and as far as your by-line
"I never feel to force my doctrine upon any person; I rejoice to see prejudice give way to truth, and the traditions of men dispersed by the pure principles of the gospel of Jesus Christ." that is good also,,, but what did it have to do with what I posted? which was origanally posted by Servent101
And as far as what we assume, making ourselves stumbling blocks to the people at large... well hopefully there is some people watching for that as well - as it really does not fall under artical 9.

With Christ's Love

Servent101

[Mustard Seed]

mustard Seed - what you posted was good, and as far as your by-line that is good also,,, but what did it have to do with what I posted? which was

With Christ's Love

Servent101

I'll admit it. I'm confused as to what you're saying exactly. Thought I knew but I guess all the nuerons aren't firing correctly. Could you restate what it was I thought I was responding to? Much thanks and apologies for the confusion I'm experiencing and have caused.

Guess I shouldn't have assumed I understood what you were saying...

...I'm not even going to post the corresponding quote that's in my mind in connection to "assume".

[servent101]

mustard Seed - thank you for the correspondence - seems like you are not yourself - that you ask me. Could you restate what it was I thought I was responding to?

I could try a little magic and see if I could guess what it was you were thinking - but all in all I suggest you walk in the grass in your bear feet, as this will draw the "electro smog" that has been collecting in your body into the ground... as it is usually this electro smog or radio waves that they bombard Christians with now a days. We live in ah high tech world ya know. Medical magnets also help us recover from these various types of gamma rays. Seems there is no law against it, they can’t prove it is bad for us.

With Christ's Love

Servent101

[Mustard Seed]

mustard Seed - thank you for the correspondence - seems like you are not yourself - that you ask me.

I could try a little magic and see if I could guess what it was you were thinking - but all in all I suggest you walk in the grass in your bear feet, as this will draw the "electro smog" that has been collecting in your body into the ground... as it is usually this electro smog or radio waves that they bombard Christians with now a days. We live in ah high tech world ya know. Medical magnets also help us recover from these various types of gamma rays. Seems there is no law against it, they can’t prove it is bad for us.

With Christ's Love

Servent101

Funny you mention that. I just did that for the first time in a while this morning. It was that stingingly coolness from the morning dew that made my feet cold enough to be invigorating but not cold enough to be unpleasant. It was right on the threshold. Then when I got inside they felt good warming up. Reminds me of those rare times when you're grogy but it's a good, pleasant grogyness (generaly it can only occure when you don't have super pressing stuff to get done so being tired isn't a travesty) So you feel good while you're grogy but then you go to sleep and wake refreshed. So you get the best of both worlds. You feel good when you go down and when you get up.

[servent101]

Mustard Seed Funny you mention that. I just did that for the first time in a while

Lets see maybee we can get on a role... I also suggest that you find money from someplace, earn it in a legal but easy way, (lots of it) and invest it in that stock market in stock the will increase in value ten fold over the next six months.

With Christ's Love

Servent101

[Mustard Seed]

Mustard Seed

Lets see maybee we can get on a role... I also suggest that you find money from someplace, earn it in a legal but easy way, (lots of it) and invest it in that stock market in stock the will increase in value ten fold over the next six months.

With Christ's Love

Servent101

I doubt the ease and speed of such going hand in hand moral and ethical behaviour.



20 A faithful man shall abound with blessings: but he that maketh haste to be rich shall not be innocent.


--Prov. 28: 20

[Mustard Seed]

"Only one rabbi dared to expect of us such a perfect balance that we could preserve the law and still forgive the deviation. So, of course, we killed him."

--taken from Speaker for the Dead, Orson Scott Card

[Mustard Seed]

"I have to win this now, and for all time, or I'll fight it every day and it will get worse and worse."

--'Ender Wiggens' Ender's Game Orson Scott Card

[wiseman]

When I take action, I'm not going to fire a 2 million dollar missile at a 10 dollar empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It's going to be decisive.

George W Bush

[Mustard Seed]

34 O Lord, I have trusted in thee, and I will trust in thee forever. I will not put my trust in the arm of flesh; for I know that cursed is he that putteth his trust in the arm of flesh. Yea, cursed is he that putteth his trust in man or maketh flesh his arm.

--2 Ne. 4: 34

[Mustard Seed]

"the whole question is not whether or not one is to have an open mind or not...

...The question is the point at which to draw the line. And even in the case of these two extreem liberals, one can't help noting that, where each man is strong and positive is precisely the area in which he has made up his mind, that is, where he is not open minded.

Is an open mind then a negative thing? An empty mind? It is, unless it is a searching mind. An oyster has few prejudices in the field of astronomy, we may safely say it has none. Are we then to congragulate the oyster for his openmindedness?"

--Hugh Nibley

[Mustard Seed]

"...But when it comes to human beings, the only type of cause that matters is final cause, the purpose. What a person had in mind. Once you understand what people really want, you can't hate them anymore. You can fear them, but you can't hate them, because you can always find the same desires in your own heart."

--Speaker for the Dead

[shilohproject]

Tramps like us, baby, we were born to run. -The Boss


NEWSFLASH!!!! GOD DANCES!!!!
Even the Baptist One? EEk!

[Mustard Seed]

Notice. Appreciate. Acknowledge.

--signature of shilohproject

Know, think, choose, do.

--Ender's Shadow

[shilohproject]

Notice. Appreciate. Acknowledge.

--signature of shilohproject

Know, think, choose, do.

--Ender's ShadowDo you know Orson Scott Card? No, way!:cool:

[Mustard Seed]

Do you know Orson Scott Card? No, way!:cool:


Orson is a Latter-day Saint (Mormon). Do you think any self respecting LDS scholar wanna-be would be so unaware of one of the most talented sci-fi writers of our era? Especialy when he's rather closely related to Hugh Nibley, a man who defined current LDS apologetics and scholarship? Anyone who knows LDS theology can't help but making a double take on OSC's works and seeing his/our theology slipping in here and there. It's no coincidence Ender's mother was a "Mormon".

[shilohproject]

Yeah, he's great. I'm not too up on all the Mormon distinctives, but his value base is obvious in his work. Speaker for the Dead is a perfect example. I also found his way of expressing folklore/superstitions in the Alvin series truely impressive.

"To do honor to the departed, we must speek the truth about them. All of it.":cool:

[Mustard Seed]

"To do honor to the departed, we must speek the truth about them. All of it.":cool:

That brings to mind an argument I had with a sibling when I was younger and hadn't heard of the Ender's series yet. I'm kinda proud as I took the position of an honest funeral service being done being preferable, even if for a deadbeat dad. She held the view of compasion in that moment. Though the question of what is and isn't compasion comes to mind.

[Mustard Seed]

"He made religion the advocate, rather than the enemy, of all that is best in human yearning."

--Terryl L. Givens

[Mustard Seed]

"I can see it now...


...three grapes."

--Sally Brown (Peanuts character, younger sister of Charlie Brown)

[Mustard Seed]

"[People] ask, 'Why is it this babbler gains so many followers, and retains them?' I answer, It is because I possess the principle of love. All I can offer the world is a good heart and a good hand."


--Joseph Smith Jr.

[Mustard Seed]

"We cannot be saved until we have risen above all our enemies, not the least of which is ignorance."

--Joseph Smith Jr.

[Mustard Seed]

"deprived of the bennifit of an education suffice it to say I was mearly intuctid in reading writing and the ground rules of Arithmatic which constuted my whole literary acquirements [sick]."

--Joseph Smith

[Mustard Seed]

"You're making a mistake," said Quim.

"You made the mistake by coming here."

"I mean you're making a doctrinal mistake. You've got the lines down right--fasting in the wilderness, stones into bread, all of it. But didn't you think it might be a little too self-revelatory for you to give yourself Satan's part?"

--Xenocide by Orson Scott Card

[Mustard Seed]

The Mussulman condemns the heathen, the Jew, and the Christian, and the whole of the world of mankind that rejects his Koran, as infidels, and consigns the whole of them to perdition. The Jew believes that the whole world that rejects his faith and are not circumcised, are Gentile dogs, and will be damned. The heathen is equally as tenacious about his principles, and the Christian consigns all to perdition who cannot bow to his creed, and submit to his ipse dixit.

But while one portion of the human race is judging and condemning the other without mercy, the Great Parent of the universe looks upon the whole of the human family with a fatherly care and parental regard; He views them as His offspring, and without any of those contracted feelings that influence the children of men...He holds the reins of judgment in His hands;...He will judge them, "not according to what they have not, but according to what they have," those who have lived without law, will be judged without law, and those who have a law, will be judged by that law... and when the designs of God shall be made manifest, and the curtain of futurity be withdrawn, we shall all of us eventually have to confess that the Judge of all the earth has done right.



--Joseph Smith

[Mustard Seed]

That wasn't nice.
It's enough you pick on me.
Bless me with five daughters, a life of poverty, that's all right.
But what have you got against my horse?
Really, sometimes I think,
when things are too quiet up there,
you say to yourself,
"Let's see. "
"What kind of mischief can I play on my friend, Tevye? "

--Tevye from "The Fiddler on the Roof"

[Mustard Seed]

As the Good Book says, "When a poor man eats a chicken,
one of them is sick. "
Where does the Book say that?
All right, all right!
It doesn't exactly say that,
but someplace, it has something about a chicken!

--excerpt from "The Fiddler on the Roof"

[Mustard Seed]

"...nice is different than good."

--Red Riddinghood from Into the Woods

[Mustard Seed]

Look what they've done to my song, Ma
Look what they've done to my song
Well it's the only thing I could do half right
And it's turning out all wrong, Ma
Look what they've done to my song

--Melanie Safka

[Mustard Seed]

Wooster: "If you ask me Jeeves, art is responsible for most of the trouble in the world."
Jeeves: "It's an interesting theory, Sir. Would you care to expatiate upon it?"
Wooster: "As a matter of fact, no Jeeves. No. The thought just occures to me, you know, as thoughts do."

--Jeeves & Wooster

[Mustard Seed]

Not long ago there flourished a Soviet poet... ...who demanded, in the name of modernity, or futurity, the liberation of words from the burden of meaning--- "Free the words from their sense and contents" he cried "which have stuck like chewed paper about the word's pure image. There is not and should not be any sense or contents in art. To attribute meaning to words is a stuffy, quaint, old fashioned bourgeois prejudice." yet... <he> ...could not preach his doctrine of liberating all words from any meaning except by using words that still had meaning. Just so, there are ministers who would give us religion, freed from the burden of the supernatural, liberated from any old fashioned involvements with anything beyond our every day experience. And this doctrine of religion, with religion left out, they can convey only by using a religious vocabulary which, taken in the denatured sense in which they want it to be taken, would have no meaning at all. Like <the soviet poet> they appeal for the abandonment of the only thing that gives their appeal any force.

--Hugh Nibley, Time Vindicates the Prophets "The Prophets and the Open Mind"

[Mustard Seed]

"Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive music."

~ Marcus Brigstocke

[Mustard Seed]

La Guantanamera



Julián Orbón, de un poema de José Martí

Estribillo:

Guantanamera,
guajira guantanamera
guantanamera,
guajira guantanamera



Yo soy un hombre sincero
De donde crece la palma
Yo soy un hombre sincero
De donde crece la palma
Y antes de morirme quiero
Echar mis versos del alma

Estribillo...

Mi verso es de un verde claro
Y de un jazmín encendido
Mi verso es de un verde claro
Y de un jazmín encendido
Mi verso es un ciervo herido
Que busca en el monte amparo

Estribillo...

Con los pobres de la tierra
Quiero yo mi suerte echar
Con los pobres de la tierra
Quiero yo mi suerte echar
El arrullo de la tierra
Me complace más que el mar

Joseíto Fernández cantó:

Estribillo...

Con los pobres de la tierra
quiero yo mi suerte echar:
el arroyo de la sierra
me complace más que el mar.

Denle al vano el oro tierno
que arde y brilla en el crisol:
A mí denme el bosque eterno
cuando rompe en él el sol.

Estribillo...

Yo quiero salir del mundo
por la puerta natural:
en un carro de hojas verdes
a morir me han de llevar.

No me pongan en lo oscuro
a morir como un traidor:
yo soy bueno y como bueno
moriré de cara al sol.

Estribillo...

Tiene el leopardo un abrigo
en su monte seco y pardo:
yo tengo más que el leopardo
porque tengo un buen amigo.

Estribillo y fin

[Mustard Seed]

"Aww, the bounce is gone from his bungee."


--Hutch the Rabbit

[Mustard Seed]

"Innovation has nothing to do with how many R&D dollars you have. When Apple came up with the Mac, IBM was spending at least 100 times more on R&D. It's not about money. It's about the people you have, how you're led, and how much you get it."
-- Steve Jobs, Fortune, Nov. 9, 1998

"It's really hard to design products by focus groups. A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them."
-- Steve Jobs, BusinessWeek, May 25 1998

[Mustard Seed]

"You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on."

--George W. Bush

[Mustard Seed]

Los han visto por ahi
Los han visto en los tejados
Dando vueltas en Paris
Condenando en los juzgados

Con la nariz empolvada
De corbata o de blue jeans
Los han visto en las portadas todas
Sin mas nada que decir

Donde estan los ladrones
Donde esta el asesino
Quiza alla revolcandose
En el patio del vecino
Y que pasa si son ellos
Y que pasa si soy yo
El que toca esta guitarra
O la que canta esta cancion
La que canta esta cancion

Los han visto de rodillas
Sentados o de cuclillas
Parados dando lecciones
En todas las posiciones
Predicando en las iglesias
Hasta ofreciendo conciertos
Los han visto en los cocteles todos
Repartiendo ministerios

Donde estan los ladrones
Donde esta el asesino
Quiza alla revolcandose
En el patio del vecino
Y que pasa si son ellos
Y que pasa si soy yo
El que toca esta guitarra
O la que canta esta cancion
La que canta esta cancion

--Shakira, "¿Donde Estan Los Ladrones?"

[Mustard Seed]

"Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground."

- Anonymous

[Mustard Seed]

"...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty."

--Paul-witness of Christ

"If America ever ceases to be good America will cease to be great."

--President Gordon B. Hinckley

[Mustard Seed]

“I long to accomplish a great and noble task, but it is my chief duty to accomplish humble tasks as though they were great and noble”

--Helen Keller

[Mustard Seed]

Could man be drunk forever on liquor, love, or fights,

Lief would I rise in the morning and lief lie down at nights.

But man at whiles is sober and thinks by fits and starts

And when he thinks, he fastens up his hands unto his heart.

--A. E. Houseman

[Mustard Seed]

I am not learned, but I have as good feelings as any man.

--Joseph Smith, Jr.

[Mustard Seed]

People tend to forget their duties but remember their rights.

--Indira Gandhi

[Mustard Seed]

"Only fools trifle with the souls of men."

--Joseph Smith Jr.

[Mustard Seed]

"If the other fellow can't tell ya his story---you can never be sure he isn't trying to kill ya."

--Col. Graff (fictional character) from Ender's Game

[Daniel50]

With Jesus I am hero, without Jesus I am zero!

[Mustard Seed]

"When a government monopoly limits competition, we can't know what ideas would bloom if competition were allowed. Surveys show that most American parents are satisfied with their kids' public schools, but that's only because they don't know what their kids might have had!... I bet we'd see cheap and efficient Costco-like schools, virtual schools where you learn at home on your computer, sports schools, music schools, schools that go all year, schools with uniforms, schools that open early and keep kids later, and, who knows what? Every economics textbook says monopolies are bad because they charge high prices for shoddy goods. But it's government that gives us monopolies. So why do we entrust something as important as our children's education to a government monopoly?... It's time to give parents more options. Instead of pouring more money into the failed government monopoly, let's free parents to control their own education money. Competition is a lot smarter than bureaucrats."

---John Stossel

[Mustard Seed]

"My polite indignation knows no bounds!"

--Apu, The Simpsons