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billwald
October 29th, 2004, 01:12 PM
1 John is the only checklist or test or confirmation in the Bible that one is "saved." It was written so that one could know that he is saved. If you conform 100% to the precepts of 1 John then one can know that he is saved.
Aimiel
October 29th, 2004, 01:17 PM
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
billwald
October 29th, 2004, 01:51 PM
God can "elect" people who "know him not." In fact, it is the norm. Regeneration preceeds conversion.
Rolf Ernst
March 16th, 2005, 04:48 PM
Billwald--Your post #3 is excellent! Regeneration preceeds conversion because "the natural man receives not the things of the spirit of God, NEITHER CAN HE KNOW them..." Just as Jesus said: "except a man be born again, he CANNOT see the kingdom of God." (caps mine)
billwald
March 26th, 2005, 10:48 AM
What is the maximum permitted time span between regeneration and conversion? <G>
Turbo
March 26th, 2005, 11:01 AM
1 John is the only checklist or test or confirmation in the Bible that one is "saved." It was written so that one could know that he is saved. If you conform 100% to the precepts of 1 John then one can know that he is saved.
Are you talking about the billwald edition or the real one that includes Paul's epistles?


that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and
believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9
billwald
March 26th, 2005, 12:23 PM
Paul's letters are like eaves dropping on one side of a telephone conversation. The other side of the conversation is supplied according to one's theology.
Turbo
March 26th, 2005, 12:31 PM
And according to your theology Paul wais a false teacher. Thankfully, Peter and the twelve, along with Luke, made it clear that your theology is wrong. (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=485009&postcount=20)

(btw... how does what you said apply to Paul's epistles and not John's?)
billwald
March 26th, 2005, 10:10 PM
No, only that Paul is misinterpreted.
Turbo
March 26th, 2005, 10:43 PM
Have you changed your position regarding Paul since your MacArthur rant (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=485009&postcount=20)?
billwald
March 27th, 2005, 10:59 AM
possibly. It is still clear that the Jerusalem Synod didn't trust Paul.

The problem with Christian theology is that it reads the Bible backwards. The canon is the first 5 books. As God demanded, anything that disagrees is wrong. Subsequent writings may be commentaries or may add new information. Jesus as the Messiah would be new information that doesn't conflict.
lightninboy
December 14th, 2006, 03:46 PM
1 John is the only checklist or test or confirmation in the Bible that one is "saved." It was written so that one could know that he is saved. If you conform 100% to the precepts of 1 John then one can know that he is saved.

Do you want to defend that view?