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Aimiel
November 4th, 2004, 12:33 PM
... not yet. :nono:


Arafat is reported in coma; doctors say he's alive despite reports of his death

By Lara Sukhtian, Associated Press, 11/4/2004 13:05

PARIS (AP) A gravely ill Yasser Arafat was reported in a coma Thursday, and doctors at the hospital treating the Palestinian leader said he was alive despite reports that he had died.

Luxembourg Prime Minister Jean-Claude Juncker told reporters at a summit of European leaders in Belgium that Arafat had died, but he later retracted the statement.

''It was a misunderstanding,'' government spokesman Lucien Michels said.

After Juncker's initial statement, a spokesman for the military hospital where Arafat was rushed Friday said he was still alive.

''Mr. Arafat is not dead,'' said Christian Estripeau, head of communications for French military health services. ''The clinical situation of the first few days following admission has become more complex.''

Juncker's spokesman said the prime minister spoke after receiving a phone call while driving to the summit from a journalist, who relayed an Israeli television station report that Arafat had died.

Once inside the summit building, Juncker was corrected by French President Jacques Chirac, who visited Arafat in the hospital before leaving for Brussels.

''Chirac spoke to him and told him it was not so,'' spokesman Guy Schuller said.

Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia said there had been no change in Arafat's condition. Palestinian officials said Arafat was in a coma in the intensive care unit.

Arafat's chief of staff, Ramzi Khoury, called an Associated Press reporter from Paris and told him: ''I am standing next to the president's bed, he is in grave condition.''

Arafat's personal physician, Dr. Ashraf Kurdi, told Israel TV's Channel Two that Arafat was still alive.

There also were media reports that Arafat had died or was brain dead. The Israeli network reported that Arafat was brain dead but remained on life support.

In Washington, President Bush was asked by a reporter for his reaction to reports that the Palestinian president had died.

''My first reaction is God bless his soul,'' Bush said at the nationally televised news conference. ''My second reaction is that we will continue to work for a free Palestinian state that's at peace with Israel.''

Arafat was taken to intensive care after his condition worsened. Chirac went to the hospital Thursday and saw Arafat and his wife, ''to whom he expressed his best wishes,'' Chirac's office said. The president also met members of the Palestinian Authority and doctors ''who are doing everything possible for the health of the president,'' Chirac's office said.

French television station LCI quoted an anonymous French medical official as saying Arafat was in an ''irreversible coma'' and ''intubated'' a process that usually involves threading a tube down the windpipe to the lungs. The tube is often connected to a life support machine to help the patient breathe.

A prolonged Arafat incapacitation or death could have profound impact on the Middle East. There are fears of unrest among Palestinian factions, which Arafat, viewed as a national symbol by even some who opposed him, was largely able to prevent. Furthermore, chaos in the West Bank and Gaza could make any cooperation with Israel even more difficult.

On the other hand, Israel and the United States have in recent years shunned Arafat as a terrorist and an obstacle to peace, and his replacement by a new leadership could open the door to renewed peace talks. Such a scenario could affect Israel's current plans to pull soldiers and settlers out of the Gaza Strip in a unilateral move not coordinated with the Palestinians.

Arafat was rushed to the Percy Military Training Hospital outside Paris for emergency treatment Friday. Since then, his condition has largely remained a mystery, with Palestinians issuing conflicting reports.

On Fire
November 4th, 2004, 12:44 PM
They're just killing time.....

Granite
November 4th, 2004, 12:59 PM
Castro's on his last legs too (pun intended).

They always go in threes...what other despot is next on the list?

On Fire
November 4th, 2004, 01:02 PM
Osama?

Crow
November 4th, 2004, 01:03 PM
Is he sick enough that we can start the party? :cheers:

Gerald
November 4th, 2004, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by Crow
Is he sick enough that we can start the party? :cheers: Be sure to organize trips to go urinate on his grave...

Crow
November 4th, 2004, 01:20 PM
Grave? :shocked: Do you mean we're NOT leaving him out to rot? :noway:

Gerald
November 4th, 2004, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by Crow
Grave? :shocked: Do you mean we're NOT leaving him out to rot? :noway: Only if you plan to steal his body.

His retainers will likely be inclined to give him a decent burial; it isn't like they're going to preserve his body parts as holy relics.

On Fire
November 4th, 2004, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by Gerald

Only if you plan to steal his body.

His retainers will likely be inclined to give him a decent burial; it isn't like they're going to preserve his body parts as holy relics.

Or, even worse, for CLONING!

Gerald
November 4th, 2004, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by On Fire
Or, even worse, for CLONING! Human cloning doesn't work yet, and probably won't for a long time.

Even if it did, he wouldn't be the same person. He'd be shaped from infancy by a whole different set of experiences.

On Fire
November 4th, 2004, 01:41 PM
Way to ruin a joke.

philosophizer
November 4th, 2004, 01:47 PM
Here's the latest report (not at all ripped off from Montey Python):



ARIEL SHARON: Here's one -- nine pence.

YASSIR ARAFAT: I'm not dead!

JACQUES CHIRAC: What?

SHARON: Nothing -- here's your nine pence.

ARAFAT: I'm not dead!

CHIRAC: Here -- he says he's not dead!

SHARON: Yes, he is.

ARAFAT: I'm not!

CHIRAC: He isn't.

SHARON: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.

ARAFAT: I'm getting better!

SHARON: No, you're not -- you'll be stone dead in a moment.

CHIRAC: Oh, I can't take him like that -- it's against regulations.

ARAFAT: I don't want to go in the cart!

SHARON: Oh, don't be such a baby.

CHIRAC: I can't take him...

ARAFAT: I feel fine!

SHARON: Oh, do us a favor...

CHIRAC: I can't.

SHARON: Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won't be long.

CHIRAC: Naaah, I got to go on to Robinson's -- they've lost nine today.

SHARON: Well, when is your next round?

CHIRAC: Thursday.

ARAFAT: I think I'll go for a walk.

SHARON: You're not fooling anyone y'know. Look, isn't there something you can do?

ARAFAT: I feel happy... I feel happy.

**WHOP**

Gerald
November 4th, 2004, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by On Fire

Way to ruin a joke. That's why I'm here. :D

BillyBob
November 4th, 2004, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by granite1010

Castro's on his last legs too (pun intended).

They always go in threes...what other despot is next on the list?

Bill Clinton.

On Fire
November 4th, 2004, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by granite1010

Castro's on his last legs too (pun intended).

They always go in threes...what other despot is next on the list?

Elizabeth Edwards has been diagnosed with breast cancer.

:flame shield activated:

Gerald
November 4th, 2004, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by On Fire

Elizabeth Edwards has been diagnosed with breast cancer.

:flame shield activated: Who?

On Fire
November 4th, 2004, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Gerald

Who?

Exactly. :up:

BillyBob
November 4th, 2004, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by Gerald

Who?

You're right, it would be a lot more entertaining if it were Teresa, instead.

Gerald
November 4th, 2004, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by On Fire
Exactly. :up: So some woman developed breast cancer.

This is hardly newsworthy.

(Though, given who it is, are there any volunteers to go shoot her in the head...?)

Nineveh
November 4th, 2004, 03:17 PM
"There also were media reports that Arafat had died or was brain dead."

That's news? It took actual doctors to arrive at that conclusion?

PastorZ77
November 4th, 2004, 03:22 PM
What will the fallout be when he dies?

Any guesses?

BillyBob
November 4th, 2004, 03:24 PM
Israel will finally bulldoze 'Palestine' and be done with it.

Nineveh
November 4th, 2004, 03:25 PM
The "devil we don't know" will take his place.

Gerald
November 4th, 2004, 03:25 PM
Some Hamas baboon will probably take over, stuff in Israel will start blowing up, and the Israelis will finally grow a collective pair and set out to exterminate the Palestinians.

BillyBob
November 4th, 2004, 04:29 PM
Is he dead yet?

Crow
November 4th, 2004, 04:41 PM
I dunno. Do you think he'll be around long enough that it's worth taking bets on the time of demise?

Sozo
November 4th, 2004, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by Crow

I dunno. Do you think he'll be around long enough that it's worth taking bets on the time of demise?

5:17pm CDT

BillyBob
November 4th, 2004, 04:43 PM
The only reason he's alive right now is because they have him on life support.

I guess we can take bets on when they'll pull the plug. [they may keep him alive for weeks]

I give 'em 24 hours. $10

Crow
November 4th, 2004, 04:47 PM
Nov 5 9:35 AM EST

Sozo
November 4th, 2004, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by Crow

Nov 5 9:35 AM EST

We have to pick a day too? :doh:

Crow
November 4th, 2004, 04:53 PM
I hope he dies soon. I've added flies...a vulture...I don't know what I can do to make this avatar look any deader.

Sozo
November 4th, 2004, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Crow

I don't know what I can do to make this avatar look any deader.

Crow
November 4th, 2004, 05:00 PM
That's pretty good, Sozo! :darwinsm:

Aimiel
November 4th, 2004, 09:18 PM
Time was, he was the most despicable person the news covered. Some of the people in today's news make him look like a girl scout.

Seeing Arafat in the news always reminds me of 'Baghdad Bob,' saying (with explosions from air strikes, artillery and M-16's in the background), "There's no cause for alarm, we're in control of the airport. It will be fine. The Americans are being driven back."

BillyBob
November 4th, 2004, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by Crow

That's pretty good, Sozo! :darwinsm:

No kidding! How did you do that, Sozo?

:chuckle:

Lovejoy
November 4th, 2004, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by Aimiel

Time was, he was the most despicable person the news covered. Some of the people in today's news make him look like a girl scout.

Seeing Arafat in the news always reminds me of 'Baghdad Bob,' saying (with explosions from air strikes, artillery and M-16's in the background), "There's no cause for alarm, we're in control of the airport. It will be fine. The Americans are being driven back."

I think a time finally came when Arafat realized that what he really wanted was a cozy civil service job and a pension. He got where he was being a revolutionary, but figured out that if he ever wanted a real life he needed to cool it. I think that is pretty typical in his line of work. Does not play well with the younger (and still quite belligerent) crowd. He spent the last years of his life sowing what he reaped.

BillyBob
November 4th, 2004, 09:35 PM
Is he dead yet?

Lovejoy
November 4th, 2004, 09:43 PM
Well, he has been irrelevant for years. Does that count?

Gerald
November 5th, 2004, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by Lovejoy
Well, he has been irrelevant for years. Does that count? Come on, now, don't be a wet blanket.

Let them pee on his grave if they want to. :chuckle:

lucybelle
November 5th, 2004, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by Gerald

Come on, now, don't be a wet blanket.

Let them pee on his grave if they want to. :chuckle:

Pee on his grave....
hmm...

and that's really not extreme or insulting...
I mean, after all, it's not like this worthless waste of human flesh known as Arafat is some creation of God's, whom, though he is corrupt and sinful, still a living breathing person - an heir of Adam and therefore our brother?
Right?

Aimiel
November 5th, 2004, 11:09 AM
The French are now telling us what I knew in 1969...

Arafat is 'brain dead.'

Crow
November 5th, 2004, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by Gerald

Come on, now, don't be a wet blanket.

Let them pee on his grave if they want to. :chuckle:

Exactly why I think the Jews should be overjoyed that he wants to be buried in Jerusalem. How much more conveninet does it get?

Aimiel
July 19th, 2006, 09:22 AM
AP Newswire -- Israel, 19JUL06, 15:20 GMT -- Israel announced today that Arafat is still dead. :chuckle: