excretion

[billwald]

Creationists, please explain why humans are the only creature that soils itself when excreting waste material.

[bob b]

Originally posted by billwald
Creationists, please explain why humans are the only creature that soils itself when excreting waste material.

We have evolved too far?

[Crow]

Originally posted by billwald

Creationists, please explain why humans are the only creature that soils itself when excreting waste material.

You evidently have limited experience with cows. Check out the tail on one of those sometimes. :vomit:

[One Eyed Jack]

Originally posted by billwald

Creationists, please explain why humans are the only creature that soils itself when excreting waste material.

Because we're the only ones that wear clothing?

[1PeaceMaker]

Originally posted by billwald

Creationists, please explain why humans are the only creature that soils itself when excreting waste material. Because some stupid people invented diapers. That's why.

Kids aren't supposed to use daipers. They give cues to their mother from birth that, if she is aware, can be responded to, and the child does not need to wear body waste. As the child grows, the communication becomes more and more efficient. Many babies can be totally done with accidents (minus parental neglegence) by three months. That's right, babies can be little graduates by three months!

Only in our culture must a child wear diapers, and even here, with a handy little bucket, babies can still be potty trained from birth.

[1PeaceMaker]

Originally posted by One Eyed Jack

Because we're the only ones that wear clothing? Not only that, most of us live in cement jungles. We have refined toilet training to an art in the last century or two. You have to be big enough to reach handles etc...

[billwald]

Not because our bodies evolved to walk on all fours?

[Knight]

Originally posted by billwald

Creationists, please explain why humans are the only creature that soils itself when excreting waste material. Are you sure you wanted to tell us this? I think this post falls in to the category of "TMI". Too Much Information.

Hey Bill.... news flash....

TOILETS.

Give one a try.

[bob b]

Originally posted by billwald

Not because our bodies evolved to walk on all fours?

The situation would appear to be the same physically whether our bodies evolved or not.

Or is this another one of those "God wouldn't have done it that way" arguments that Darwin, Gould and others thought were so compelling?

I always thought it strange that a person could argue that God wouldn't have done it that way and then in almost the same breath turn around and argue that God doesn't exist.

:confused:

[Knight]

Originally posted by bob b

I always thought it strange that a person could argue that God wouldn't have done it that way and then in almost the same breath turn around and argue that God doesn't exist.

:confused: Or that God wouldn't have done it "that way" but that mother nature would have. In other words... in one breath the evolutionists argue how amazing evolution is, yet at the same time attempt to find flaws in design as a way to discredit God.

[billwald]

Only wonder why the Intelligent Designer didn't do a more careful job. Since we moved into the city and have to clean up after Benny the Dog I have observed that his rectal configuration is DESIGNED to prevent him from soiling himself. Why did God switch from a good design on a dog to a poor design when he created humans?

[bob b]

Originally posted by billwald

Only wonder why the Intelligent Designer didn't do a more careful job. Since we moved into the city and have to clean up after Benny the Dog I have observed that his rectal configuration is DESIGNED to prevent him from soiling himself. Why did God switch from a good design on a dog to a poor design when he created humans?

You observed his rectal configuration?

Why?

On second thought please don't answer that.

[Knight]

Originally posted by bob b

You observed his rectal configuration?

Why?

On second thought please don't answer that. ROTFL... :darwinsm:

[Knight]

Originally posted by billwald

Only wonder why the Intelligent Designer didn't do a more careful job. Since we moved into the city and have to clean up after Benny the Dog I have observed that his rectal configuration is DESIGNED to prevent him from soiling himself. Why did God switch from a good design on a dog to a poor design when he created humans? Bill no offense but you just may be one of the weirdest persons I know. :kookoo:

How many people do you know of who soil themselves?

Seriously, that question is not rhetorical.

[Stratnerd]

everyone I know under 2! (and some people over 70)

[Knight]

Originally posted by Stratnerd

everyone I know under 2! (and some people over 70) As do young and old animals. Trust me.... we have BOTH a new puppy and an old dog.

[Knight]

Originally posted by Sozo

Have we finally come to the end, so to speak?

Is there anything left for us to talk about? As long as Bill doesn't tell us that he licks himself clean I think we are OK.

[Knight]

Originally posted by Sozo

I stand corrected.

:firechyld :chuckle:

[Knight]

Oh and... just a note.

Sorry for my post above that was really gross. I normally wouldn't post such a remark but I posted it to make a point to Bill :kookoo: I pray he gets it.

[billwald]

So, I'm curious about most things.

[Eowyn]

Originally posted by billwald

So, I'm curious about most things.

Some things are just better left to one's own musings...:freak:

[Knight]

Originally posted by billwald

So, I'm curious about most things. Your curious interests have an twisted bias.

[aharvey]

Originally posted by bob b

The situation would appear to be the same physically whether our bodies evolved or not.

Or is this another one of those "God wouldn't have done it that way" arguments that Darwin, Gould and others thought were so compelling?

I always thought it strange that a person could argue that God wouldn't have done it that way and then in almost the same breath turn around and argue that God doesn't exist.

:confused:
Originally posted by Knight

Or that God wouldn't have done it "that way" but that mother nature would have. In other words... in one breath the evolutionists argue how amazing evolution is, yet at the same time attempt to find flaws in design as a way to discredit God.

Bob, Knight, I don't think you understand the true nature of the argument :shocked:

It goes like this:

1. FACT (or OBSERVATION).
2. EXPLANATION of said fact/observation as provided by
a. model one (for example, evolutionary theory).
b. model two (for example, creationism).
c. etc.

I'm not sure I agree with billwald's original fact (remember, scientifically speaking, a fact is not the same as a proven truth, and so could be incorrect). However, you seem to be (intentionally?) distorting his logical construct. He hasn't said anything like model 2 is false (i.e., "God wouldn't do it this way" ). He asked what's model two's explanation? (i.e., "why would God do it this way?"). The two are hardly the same!

And Knight, shame on you. Surely by now you understand that evolution does not "work" to produce "perfect" organisms! "Apparent adaptations" and "apparent imperfections" are both universal realities. The question is, which model provides the most compelling explanations for both? Not just in a vague, generic, arm-waving sort of fashion, but on a specific, case by case basis as well. The problem is, of course, that until creationism gets some sort of legitimate scientific basis (at this point we'd settle for a coherent, specific model!), it will be unable to provide any explanations beyond "because that's how God did it," and any support beyond "there's only one other alternative, and it's obvious that that one's WRONG!!!"

[Mr Jack]

I unconvinced that humans "soil themselves" anymore than other animals - we merely need to squat in order to defecate.

And as a side issue - ever watched a hippo poo? They deliberately spread their faeces everywhere by rapidly swishing their tails while defecating.

[Turbo]

Originally posted by Mr Jack

ever watched a hippo poo? Yes. :vomit:

[Crow]

Originally posted by Mr Jack

I unconvinced that humans "soil themselves" anymore than other animals - we merely need to squat in order to defecate.

And as a side issue - ever watched a hippo poo? They deliberately spread their faeces everywhere by rapidly swishing their tails while defecating.

Yup. It really hits the fan, doesn't it?