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Morpheus
March 10th, 2005, 07:37 PM
http://southwestfarmpress.com/news/050307-textile-trade-deficit/

Textile trade deficit hits all-time high

Mar 7, 2005 10:29 AM
By Forrest Laws

The difference between the export and import numbers is the textile trade deficit of $73.1 billion, also a record.


The U.S. textile trade deficit rose to an all-time high of $73.1 billion last year, leading textile manufacturing groups to question how high it will be in 2005 if the Bush administration doesn’t invoke safeguard provisions soon.


The increase in the textile trade deficit, which accounted for nearly 12 percent of the total 2004 U.S. trade deficit of $617.7 billion, also a record, occurred while textile import quotas were still in place for most categories of textile and apparel entering the United States. Those quotas expired Jan. 1.

Textile and other manufacturing groups seized on the new numbers to complain that the administration isn’t doing enough to slow the flow of imports and stop the loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs.

U.S. retailers imported $89.25 billion of textile and apparel goods in 2004, or more than five times the total U.S. textile and apparel exports of $16.15 billion. The difference between the export and import numbers is the textile trade deficit of $73.1 billion, also a record.

The American Manufacturing Trade Action Coalition said the increase added to the long-term decline in U.S. textile and clothing manufacturing jobs, which fell from 1.05 million in January 2001 to 683,400 in January 2005.

AMTAC said China continues to play the major role in the destruction of the U.S. textile and apparel sector. Chinese manufacturers held a 25.02 percent share of the U.S. textile import market in 2004 – a 40.74-percent increase from 2003.

“These numbers show that China, through the aggressive use of unfair trade practices, already is the dominant player in the U.S. textile and apparel market,” said Auggie Tantillo, AMTAC’s director.

The U.S. textile trade deficit with China rose by 25.3 percent to $17.5 billion in 2004 or 24 percent of the total textile deficit. The deficit figure with China was $14 billion in 2003.

China’s clothing exports to the United States have risen dramatically since some import quotas were reduced after China joined the World Trade Organization in 2001. In some categories, shipments have risen by more than 700 percent since then.

Textile manufacturing organizations have filed several petitions asking the U.S. government to invoke provisions in China’s WTO accession agreement that were designed to “safeguard” U.S. manufacturers from being buried by tons of goods made with cheap labor in China.

The government’s Committee for the Implementation of Textile Agreements has granted some petitions and was considering a dozen more when the New York-based U.S. Court of International Trade issued an injunction against further approvals at the request of U.S. importers.

Manufacturer groups have been urging the U.S. government to appeal the ruling so CITA can approve more safeguard petitions, which limit increases in specific categories to 7.5 percent of last year’s total.

“With the expiration of the remaining textile and apparel quotas at the beginning of the year, it is imperative for the U.S. government to invoke the special textile China safeguard before any further disruption to the U.S. market occurs,” said Tantillo.
(Note: I have used the WTO accession of China only as an example of what may become the norm in all industries.)

The U.S. was one of the major forces behind globalization and the formation of the World Trade Organization. It was touted as being good for U.S. businesses because it would open up previously closed markets to U.S. goods. We were also told that globalization would be good for the world because it would spread capitalism. It has been pushed by both the neoliberal Clinton and the neoconservative Bush administrations against strong popular resistance.

Many warned of the dangers, but we are only now beginning to see how the game will be played out. In the short run it will be good for certain large global businesses who will reap the huge profit margins created by manufacturing in third-world countries for slave wages, or buying their products, and then selling in first-world nations. But as the quotas continue to be lifted, as were the textile quotas on Chinese textile imports in the beginning of this year, products from those cheap producers will flood first world markets, gradually, or not so gradually, destroying their manufacturing base. This will bring about further unemployment. The irreversible unemployment will force wage cuts in most sectors, thereby reducing buying power. As is the law in capitalism, prices and wages will eventually reach equilibrium. If you live in China or India that is an improvement. If you live here it's not a good scenario. But by combining the local competitive workforces into one global workforce we will engage in a race to the bottom as far as wages and eventually prices.

By reading this and other related articles the defensive trend is for domestic manufacturers to push for extending protectionist tarriffs and import quotas. The wholesale and retail sectors in turn push to keep those protections eliminated.

1) Do we really believe in a "free-market economy", or do we believe in it as long as we hold an advantage, but then demand protections and subsidies when we're on the losing end?

2) Is world trade really fair trade?

3) Does globalization actually advance anyone besides a few multinational corporations?

4) And most important, who really is manipulating the global economy?

I enter this discussion as a retired member of labor, but in this arena I have found that both business and labor share many concerns.

Art Deco
March 10th, 2005, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by Morpheus 1) Do we really believe in a "free-market economy", or do we believe in it as long as we hold an advantage, but then demand protections and subsidies when we're on the losing end? Ever hear of Yankee Traders? The government should stay out of the trade business and let Free Traders trade.

2) Is world trade really fair trade? No, unless our trading activity produces a positive balance of trade with the world or at least a neutral balance of trade.


3) Does globalization actually advance anyone besides a few multinational corporations? Globalization is a smoke screen to lower the U.S. standard of living and raise the rest of the world at our expense. It's an evil scam.

4) And most important, who really is manipulating the global economy? The One World Cabal...

I enter this discussion as a retired member of labor, but in this arena I have found that both business and labor share many concerns. The bosses in big labor have sold out the rank and file for decades. Organized Labor have supported Democrats for decades. The same Party that applauds open borders and NAFTA and GATT. We need a labor party that supports the working man not One World clones that cut labor's throat.

BillyBob
March 10th, 2005, 08:05 PM
Hey Mopey, are you a former Union Laborer?

Morpheus
March 10th, 2005, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by Art Deco

Ever hear of Yankee Traders? The government should stay out of the trade business and let Free Traders trade.

No, unless our trading activity produces a positive balance of trade with the world or at least a neutral balance of trade.


Globalization is a smoke screen to lower the U.S. standard of living and raise the rest of the world at our expense. It's an evil scam.

The One World Cabal...

The bosses in big labor have sold out the rank and file for decades. Organized Labor have supported Democrats for decades. The same Party that applauds open borders and NAFTA and GATT. We need a labor party that supports the working man not One World clones that cut labor's throat. It is nice to see that we, at least in essence, agree on something.

Morpheus
March 10th, 2005, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by BillyBob

Hey Mopey, are you a former Union Laborer? 30+ year steamfitter/welder. Fell in '78 and finally had to take a disability retirement in '01 after 4th back surgery as a result of those injuries and years of heavy physical labor. Was popularly known as Weldo the Magnificent in 20+ states. Spent a great deal of time as a steward, but argued with the hall as much as with contractors.

BillyBob
March 10th, 2005, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by Morpheus

30+ year steamfitter/welder.

Ah, I did my time as a Pipefitter, never Union.

Fell in '78 and finally had to take a disability retirement in '01 after 4th back surgery as a result of those injuries and years of heavy physical labor.

Sorry about the fall. As for the 'years of physical labor', at least you had a job. Gotta love the US! [I'm sorry that you were union, though. Now I understand your communistic tendencies]

Was popularly known as Weldo the Magnificent in 20+ states.

Good for you! :up:

Spent a great deal of time as a steward, but argued with the hall as much as with contractors.

I would have put a gun in my mouth if my only choice was to be a union member.

Morpheus
March 10th, 2005, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by BillyBob

Ah, I did my time as a Pipefitter, never Union.



Sorry about the fall. As for the 'years of physical labor', at least you had a job. Gotta love the US! [I'm sorry that you were union, though. Now I understand your communistic tendencies]



Good for you! :up:



I would have put a gun in my mouth if my only choice was to be a union member. I had it a little rougher than some for several years. I was repeatedly slapped on the wrist by the local for confronting the business manager. Imagine that. Spent a lot of time off or on the road until the contractors finally realized that I was worth putting up with because of my special skills with exotic metals and my strong work ethic. I ended up spending my last years in a pharmaceutical plant where the contractor occasionally told me to grab a chair and teach apprentices and young journeymen.

billwald
March 11th, 2005, 12:58 AM
Foreign trade is like public transportation. Everyone thinks everyone else should ride the busses and stay out of Walmart. It wasn't Reagan who broke the Air Controller's strike. He never crossed their line. It was all the union people who wouldn't give up their vacation in Hawaii.

Art Deco
March 11th, 2005, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by billwald

Foreign trade is like public transportation. Everyone thinks everyone else should ride the busses and stay out of Walmart. It wasn't Reagan who broke the Air Controller's strike. He never crossed their line. It was all the union people who wouldn't give up their vacation in Hawaii. Remember Eastern Airlines?...:( The whole company folded because the mechanics union would not play ball with management. Bottom line the union killed the company (goose that lays the golden egg). Now that's enlightened union labor...:doh:

Morpheus
March 11th, 2005, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by billwald

Foreign trade is like public transportation. Everyone thinks everyone else should ride the busses and stay out of Walmart. It wasn't Reagan who broke the Air Controller's strike. He never crossed their line. It was all the union people who wouldn't give up their vacation in Hawaii. I believe that Reagan had something to do with it by sending in replacement workers, but you are right about unions cutting their own throats. I remember the traffic controllers strike. I also remember my international holding their convention during it. Almost all of the participants crossed the line to get there. Only a handful refused and drove. As far as shopping in Wal Mart, most do that too. Why would they want to pay more for domestic products???

Morpheus
March 11th, 2005, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Art Deco

Remember Eastern Airlines?...:( The whole company folded because the mechanics union would not play ball with management. Bottom line the union killed the company (goose that lays the golden egg). Now that's enlightened union labor...:doh: It takes two teams to play ball. Airlines have failed because of poor management and intense competition. The airlines have often asked for either their employees or taxpayers to pay for their poor management.

But how about that increasing trade deficit?

Art Deco
March 11th, 2005, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Morpheus

It takes two teams to play ball. Airlines have failed because of poor management and intense competition. The airlines have often asked for either their employees or taxpayers to pay for their poor management. Ex-Astronaut and head of Eastern Frank Borman, pleaded with the union to relent and save the jobs of thousands of Eastern's employees. The union's answer...stick it. So much for enlightened management. The average American saw this and lost all respect for unions and organized labor issues. That's why the Air Traffic Controllers strike got no public support or sympathy. And rightfully so.

Posted by Morpheus:But how about that increasing trade deficit? This is the needle that will let the air out of our nation's economic balloon. It's no longer if, it's a matter of when. You can thank your utopian Globalists in the Congress, Old Media, and in corporate boardrooms for the collapse of the greatest economy the world has ever seen. Stick a fork in it, it's done. :(

Morpheus
March 11th, 2005, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Art Deco

Ex-Astronaut and head of Eastern Frank Borman, pleaded with the union to relent and save the jobs of thousands of Eastern's employees. The union's answer...stick it. So much for enlightened management. The average American saw this and lost all respect for unions and organized labor issues. That's why the Air Traffic Controllers strike got no public support or sympathy. And rightfully so. ( That's why I said it takes two teams. I didn't mean to imply that the unions are innocent. I just meant that usually both sides are at fault. I also recall when Chrysler under Lee Iacoca asked the UAW to give massive concessions, promising to make it up to them after the company rebounded. They did but Chrysler didn't.

billwald
March 11th, 2005, 07:33 PM
Report on the AFL-CIO convention noted that only govt employees are organizing. Sweeney is putting all the money into buying votes instead of building membership. Life is to easy and/or the workers are not smart enough to organize.

Art Deco
March 12th, 2005, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Morpheus

That's why I said it takes two teams. I didn't mean to imply that the unions are innocent. I just meant that usually both sides are at fault. I also recall when Chrysler under Lee Iacoca asked the UAW to give massive concessions, promising to make it up to them after the company rebounded. They did but Chrysler didn't. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, ...shame on me. Future labor negotiation should reflect this fact.

dotcom
March 12th, 2005, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by Morpheus



Many warned of the dangers, but we are only now beginning to see how the game will be played out. In the short run it will be good for certain large global businesses who will reap the huge profit margins created by manufacturing in third-world countries for slave wages, or buying their products, and then selling in first-world nations.

This is one of the the sad realities responsible for creating a huge trade deficit. Most folks are not even aware these companies do not pay federal taxes! Instead we pay taxes some of which are given back to them after siphoning profits from our pockets through cheaper products!

I'm waiting to see how you will address the long-run effect of this unscrupulous economic reality.

http://www.walmartsurvivor.com/2004headlines/092304.htm

Art Deco
March 12th, 2005, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by dotcom

Originally posted by Morpheus





This is one of the the sad realities responsible for creating a huge trade deficit. Most folks are not even aware these companies do not pay federal taxes! Instead we pay taxes some of which are given back to them after siphoning profits from our pockets through cheaper products!

I'm waiting to see how you will address the long-run effect of this unscrupulous economic reality.

http://www.walmartsurvivor.com/2004headlines/092304.htm This is a bitter pill to swallow. I am a in favor of capitalism. However, I want to see fair play and justice in the market place. Amorality taught in business schools and adopted by knee jerk Free Enterprisers is killing us here at home. Congress needs to be shaken to its core over this issue. We need another Political Party with the guts to clean out this Washington engineered rats nest.

Thanks for the research DotCom... :thumb:

dotcom
March 13th, 2005, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Art Deco

This is a bitter pill to swallow. I am a in favor of capitalism. However, I want to see fair play and justice in the market place. Amorality taught in business schools and adopted by knee jerk Free Enterprisers is killing us here at home. Congress needs to be shaken to its core over this issue. We need another Political Party with the guts to clean out this Washington engineered rats nest.

Thanks for the research DotCom... :thumb:

...And the "pill" is coming from China. How are our next generation going to compete with fast growing economies like China without a manufacturing base? Politicians are making big mistakes.
I agree Congress needs to be shaken to its core.

BTW that Wisconsin church shooting gives evangelicals a bad name.

Art Deco
March 13th, 2005, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by dotcom

...And the "pill" is coming from China. How are our next generation going to compete with fast growing economies like China without a manufacturing base? Politicians are making big mistakes.
I agree Congress needs to be shaken to its core. The U.S. has become the colony of the emerging Industrial Nations of the world. We use cheap labor off shore to manufacture goods that are then imported and sold in our domestic market. This is economic suicide. Money spent off-shore is not money available to provide jobs for Americans. Globalism = Economic stagnation and ruin. Michael Moore is right Americans are the stupidist people on the planet. First for supporting Michael Moore and the Democrats, and second for not raising hell about what Congress is not doing to stop the negative balance of trade...:doh:



Posted by Dotcom: BTW that Wisconsin church shooting gives evangelicals a bad name. I need more info on the gunman to make that assertion. :think:

drbrumley
March 13th, 2005, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Art Deco

The U.S. has become the colony of the emerging Industrial Nations of the world. We use cheap labor off shore to manufacture goods that are then imported and sold in our domestic market. This is economic suicide. Money spent off-shore is not money available to provide jobs for Americans. Globalism = Economic stagnation and ruin. Michael Moore is right Americans are the stupidist people on the planet. First for supporting Michael Moore and the Democrats, and second for not raising hell about what Congress is not doing to stop the negative balance of trade...:doh:

:thumb: Just throw in Bush and your right on. Good job Art.

Art Deco
March 13th, 2005, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by drbrumley

:thumb: Just throw in Bush and your right on. Good job Art. Listen, when you're ready to throw Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and the anti-God Secular Humanist Democrats off the train, I'll throw Bush under the bus over the immigration issue and America's negative balance of trade... :help:

drbrumley
March 13th, 2005, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by Art Deco

Listen, when you're ready to throw Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and the anti-God Secular Humanist Democrats off the train, I'll throw Bush under the bus over the immigration issue and America's negative balance of trade... :help:

Um, I have no use for the aforementioned socialists. Never did, never will. Why ask when I'm ready? I have NEVER supported these folks in any way.

billwald
March 13th, 2005, 04:02 PM
Read someplace that half the US corps are sub paragraph s corporations which do not pay any tax because the tax liability is transferred to the shareholders.

Art Deco
March 13th, 2005, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by drbrumley

Um, I have no use for the aforementioned socialists. Never did, never will. Why ask when I'm ready? I have NEVER supported these folks in any way. Okay, I have officially renounced support for the Republican Party and George Bush until such time as the Republican administration offically seeks to stop illegal immigration and reverse the negative balance of trade with the world before this term is over. That's a start... :)

Art Deco
March 13th, 2005, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by billwald

Read someplace that half the US corps are sub paragraph s corporations which do not pay any tax because the tax liability is transferred to the shareholders. Is it not time for a rather rough shake up of the present power structure? Are we suitably fed up enough with this hapless band of nincompoops in Washington to really do something about it? :doh:

Morpheus
March 13th, 2005, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by dotcom

Originally posted by Morpheus





This is one of the the sad realities responsible for creating a huge trade deficit. Most folks are not even aware these companies do not pay federal taxes! Instead we pay taxes some of which are given back to them after siphoning profits from our pockets through cheaper products!

I'm waiting to see how you will address the long-run effect of this unscrupulous economic reality.

http://www.walmartsurvivor.com/2004headlines/092304.htm Maybe I'm misreading something, but I don't think so. In reading your link it not only shows that the huge corporations are skipping out on taxes, it looks like more of the Social Security tax is being depended on to cover it. Now why would Social Security be in financial trouble?

BTW, who would have ever guessed that this group could all essentially agree on anything?