Just for Fun: WWRJD

[Morpheus]

http://opednews.orb6.com/stories/ucru/20050202/whatwouldrepublicanjesusdo.php

WHAT WOULD REPUBLICAN JESUS DO? (Ted Rall)
Posted Tuesday, February 1, 2005, 7:01 pm

By Ted Rall

NEW YORK--And it came to pass that Republican Jesus met with His advisers, strategists and corporate cronies. He took them and withdrew apart to a deserted city called Bethesda. But the multitudes followed Him nonetheless. So Republican Jesus asked His cronies to build Him a great stadium where He could welcome members of the multitudes able to pay Him an admission fee and purchase vast quantities of licensed merchandise at exorbitant prices.

He welcomed these people and sent off those who needed medical attention to a land called Canada.

The light of the day began to wane, so His toadies said to Republican Jesus: "Send these stinky riffraff away, that we may cross the Beltway to our home, and get steaks and baked potatoes and double martinis and crème brulées, for here we are in a barren place with naught but a TCBY and a vestigial relic of the Hardee's chain." He answered them: "Stop whining, for God's sake. You will soon have more than enough to eat."

They said to Him: "But we have a mere five Power Bars and two Diet Cokes. We are twelve advisers, strategists and corporate sycophants, and many of us are portly, and with all due respect, that sucks hard."

He told His hangers-on: "Sit down, shut up, and give me all of your money." After exchanging cynical glances, they did dig into their wallets and gave Him their loot. With that Republican Jesus raced to his waiting SUV and ordered his chauffeur to fly like the wind.

"As a rising tide lifts all boats," He cried from his speeding automobile, "so shall you benefit from the increased economic activity generated by the money you have given Me! I will buy Myself a sumptuous banquet and several portable electronic devices and also ho's, creating jobs in the food/electronic/ho sectors that you will take in order to feed yourselves. Give a man a fish and he eats a fish, but teach a man to fish at rock-bottom wages and we all shall eat his fish."

After Republican Jesus performed this miracle, his erstwhile suck-ups drew lots to determine which of them would be eaten first.

Then Republican Jesus turned his attention to household affairs. His mother Republican Mary said to Him: "Your father Republican Joseph is away on business, but do not worry, for he has left us with ample savings. Moreover, positive cash flow is projected for many years to come. Republican Jesus said to her: "What does that have to do with me?"

Now there were six bricks of cash hidden by the elder Mr. Christ in a lockbox, containing one trillion dollars each. Republican Jesus ordered his mother: "Set Dad's money on fire." Republican Jesus had been hitting the sauce and talking crazy, so she complied. "Now go to the temple," He continued, "and borrow ten more bricks from the moneylenders."

When Joseph returned, he didn't know where the extra four bricks of cash had come from. (Mary knew, but didn't dare tell him.) Joseph told Republican Jesus: "I don't know how you did it, but our days of independent carpentry are over. Let's launch a hostile takeover of Home Depot!"

Spying one of the moneylenders walking toward them, Republican Jesus took his leave.

As He was later walking through the grounds of his whites-only country club, behold, there was an African groundskeeper suffering from AIDS (news - web sites). When he saw Republican Jesus, he fell down and begged Him, saying, "Lord, if you want to, you can cure my affliction." Cannily recoiling to avoid infection, Republican Jesus directed the man to a website that pledged millions of dollars to fight AIDS in Africa. "You took that money away from AIDS spending here," the diseased man tried to point out, but the official chroniclers deemed his comment uninteresting and unworthy of investigation. And so it never occurred.

It was at this time that someone came to Republican Jesus to tell Him of the death of a certain man, Lazarus. So Republican Jesus appealed to the Roman military governor, Pontius Pilate. "Proconsul," He said in the city forum, "evildoers from the east have slain Lazarus and other taxpaying citizens. We must therefore assemble a great army of slaves equipped with the sharpest swords to invade Parthia and its allies. Only by making the sands of Parthia run red with Parthian blood shall we avenge Lazarus, liberate Parthia's oppressed vassal states and eliminate the threat posed by their illegal and illicit catapults."

Pilate tried to argue with Republican Jesus. "Our glorious emperor Augustus has exchanged observers with the Parthian court at Nisa as part of a treaty of peace. No one has seen the catapults you describe. And Lazarus died from medical malpractice. Parthia had nothing to do with it."

"Can you take that chance? Do you trust your safety to Parthia?" Republican Jesus goaded the crowd. "Will you stand idly by while Parthia re-arms on the road to a smoky cloud over a burning Rome? Are you wussies?" "No!" the crowd roared as He rolled his eyes. And so one Roman army after another marched east, never to return. And this became known as the miracle of the vanishing soldiers.

[Art Deco]

Originally posted by Morpheus

You're treading on thin ice mocking God. :think:

GOD, No Better Friend, No Worst Enemy

[Flipper]

Actually, I think the OP was actually mocking Republicans.

Also, I've heard Bob Enyart talking about what a great sense of humor God is supposed to have.

[BillyBob]

God must have a sense of humor, why else would He have created Lighthouse? :freak:

[Flipper]

Apparently he has a mean sense of humor then.

[Granite]

Originally posted by Art Deco

You're treading on thin ice mocking God. :think:

GOD, No Better Friend, No Worst Enemy

Uh-huuuuuh. I'm shaking...in the words of George Carlin, when will Jesus bring the pork chops?

:devil:

[Gerald]

Originally posted by Art Deco
You're treading on thin ice mocking God. :think:
Why is that? God hasn't struck anybody down personally in a very long time. Do you know of anybody who has been stricken thus in the last 30 years or so?

[Granite]

We talking stubbed toe/fender bender, or lost my job/hit by lightning?:think:

[Morpheus]

Originally posted by Art Deco

You're treading on thin ice mocking God. :think:

GOD, No Better Friend, No Worst Enemy I believe that the writer was indicating that he believes that Jesus would likely not have been a Republican since his practices (feed the poor, heal the sick, love your enemy, et al) fall into the liberal category. He just used humor to express it.

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by Morpheus

(feed the poor, heal the sick, love your enemy, et al) fall into the liberal category.

Feed the Poor? Our church served over 50,000 meals last year at the local Mission. The congregation is predominantly Republican/Conservative. They are also predominantly succesful and their tax dollars feed countless people.

Heal the Sick? Since when has this become a liberal issue? Drug corporations [you know, the big corporations you libs love to hate] are responsible for creating countless drugs which have saved billions of lives.

Love your enemy? Maybe on a personal level, but it isn't a requirement of the US Government. You libs will never understand this.

[Four O'Clock]

Regarding any "politics" that the Almighty might adhere to, the honorable C.S. Lewis weighed in on this sometime ago and I tend to agree with him. The ultimate Kingdom of God would contain both "left" and "right" social/political characteristics. For his complete explanation check out "Mere Christianity"

In the meantime we might all ponder what reaction our Lord and Savior might have walking again among us and seeing all the armor and artillery you gun-totin' right wing knuckleheads are packing....anyone of you that doesn't think He would rebuke you on this is either a liar or foolish...

:kookoo:

[BillyBob]

Yes, I'm sure Jesus would advise us to simply allow Muslims to continue flying planes into our buildings. :kookoo:

'Turn the other building', as it were. :dunce:

[Gerald]

Originally posted by granite1010
We talking stubbed toe/fender bender, or lost my job/hit by lightning?:think: Hit by lightning, specifically after talking smack about the Almighty.

[Four O'Clock]

Originally posted by BillyBob
Yes, I'm sure Jesus would advise us to simply allow Muslims to continue flying planes into our buildings. :kookoo:


To "liar" or "foolish" I should have added "or redirects the question onto another subject avoiding the original question"

I still maintain that if our Savior came into our homes and found a large cache of guns (semi-autos, other varieties, etc..etc..) that I'd bet many of you on board here possess you'de all get a Divine admonishment from The Master and you know it. As I said, how can anyone not simply accept this save the fool or liar. :kookoo:

[BillyBob]

Some of Jesus' Disciples carried weapons.

[BillyBob]

:Grizzly: :jeffrson: :hammer: :sibbie: :Clete:

[Art Deco]

Originally posted by granite1010

Uh-huuuuuh. I'm shaking...in the words of George Carlin, when will Jesus bring the pork chops?

:devil: Rave on cat-nip...:doh:

[Morpheus]

Originally posted by BillyBob

Feed the Poor? Our church served over 50,000 meals last year at the local Mission. The congregation is predominantly Republican/Conservative. They are also predominantly succesful and their tax dollars feed countless people. Wouldn't they be shocked to realize that they are in fact liberal. And as far as their tax dollars feeding countless people, it isn't by their choice. If they chose to continue the social programs that feed those people and accepted the tax burden to do so willingly then this would be a valid argument.

Heal the Sick? Since when has this become a liberal issue? Drug corporations [you know, the big corporations you libs love to hate] are responsible for creating countless drugs which have saved billions of lives. Jesus and his disciples did it for free. They didn't have any orphan diseases. They just chose to heal; it wasn't just a means of increasing profits.

Love your enemy? Maybe on a personal level, but it isn't a requirement of the US Government. You libs will never understand this. It is a requirement for you. And if your president is what he claims to be, it is a requirement for him. And if all those in Congress that claim to be Christian actually are, it is their command also.

Pharoah's magicians could turn their staffs into snakes, just like Moses. The difference was motive.Originally posted by BillyBob Some of Jesus' Disciples carried weapons.Matthew 26:50-52 NASV
50 And Jesus said to him, "Friend, do what you have come for." Then they came and laid hands on Jesus and seized Him. 51 And behold, one of those who were with Jesus reached and drew out his sword, and struck the slave of the high priest and cut off his ear. 52 Then Jesus said to him, "Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword.

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by Morpheus

Wouldn't they be shocked to realize that they are in fact liberal.

No, they are not liberal. They do it freely and without governmental nudging.

And as far as their tax dollars feeding countless people, it isn't by their choice.

Of course not, liberalism is the foundation of taxation. The problem is that you libs rely on Republicans to pay your bills then take credit for it.

If they chose to continue the social programs that feed those people and accepted the tax burden to do so willingly then this would be a valid argument.

They do more than that! They continue to donate their time and money to feed the poor even though the libs are stealing their money through taxation!



Jesus and his disciples did it for free.

Did you work for free, Weldo the Magnificent? How many people have you healed? Did you know that even Paul had a job?

They didn't have any orphan diseases. They just chose to heal; it wasn't just a means of increasing profits.

When Hillary Clinton can heal lepers and raise the dead, get back to us.



It is a requirement for you. And if your president is what he claims to be, it is a requirement for him. And if all those in Congress that claim to be Christian actually are, it is their command also.

No, their requirement is to protect the US from its enemies. By the way, if hatred isn't a liberal mainstay, then why do you guys hate George Bush so much? :think:



Pharoah's magicians could turn their staffs into snakes, just like Moses. The difference was motive.

Yeah, Conservatives are philanthropic on their own, liberals legislate it.

Get a clue!


Peter was carrying a sword when the slave of Caiaphus and the priests came to arrest Jesus in Matthew 26:50-54. Why was Peter carrying a sword? More puzzling, why did Jesus let Peter carry a sword? Picture this: Peter has been living with the Master for nearly three years. Jesus used Peter’s house as residence for some time (see Matthew 13:1). One might conjecture that Jesus, as Peter’s overseer, would have said something to him in their three year tutelage about not carrying a sword -- if Jesus was against it. And if indeed such was the case, did Peter think, "We’re going to Gethsemane to pray, I think I’ll bring a weapon?" The point is not the infallibility of Peter, but that Jesus surely would not have allowed him to carry a sword unless he was OK with it. Parenthetically speaking, it was not exactly normal for a religious Jew to carry a sword around during the Pax Romana.

Perhaps it could be argued that "machaira," the Greek word for sword, was mistranslated. Maybe the text should read, "Peter then stealthily withdrew his pocket knife, opened the blade, and jumped on the slave Malchus and sawed his ear while biting the other like Mike Tyson." If one is so inclined as to believe the text should read "dagger", then conversely other texts should be summarily reinterpreted. "I did not come to bring peace, but the Swiss Army knife" in Matthew 10:34. "Take the helmet of salvation and the dagger of the Spirit." Actually, Christians probably have historically interpreted "machaira" as "dagger" -- if the way we have plunged it into the back of the nearest Jew or detractor is to be any judge.

Another thought to consider, why did Jesus say to Peter, "Put your sword back in its place; for all those who take up the sword shall die by the sword" in Matthew 26:52? Why didn’t he say, "Recycle it like Tammy on fourth Hill"? This is active proof to Jesus’ knowledge that: 1. Peter had been carrying a sword, and 2. that he should continue to carry it -- saving its use for a specific time.

Paul in the book of Romans also makes an argument, though in a different manner, for weapons. "... It (governing authority) is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil," (Romans 13:4). This passage makes evident that authoritative wrath is a minister of God, and the act of sword owning and bearing, is backed by the authority of God. In other words, God uses the gun through the government to punish evil.

Someone will have the lame objection that the text says Big Brother should bear the sword, not the believers. Well, try dusting your text off and breaking the binder in -- you know, get that gold glitter off those pages. "I urge that prayers be made for kings and all who are in authority. This is good, for God desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of truth," 1 Timothy 2.3-4. We should pray that kings and rulers become saved in order that they might use the sword not only with vengeance for God, but compassion for man. For the "Hooked on Phonics" biblical flunkies: Christian rulers should simultaneously believe and use the sword for good.

[drbrumley]

Jesus would tell Brother Bush, most Repubs and Dems to take a hike. Maybe we should do that.

[BillyBob]

I have to laugh at anybody who pretends to know what Jesus would say about modern politics, political parties or politicians.

Here, watch me: :darwinsm:

[drbrumley]

Bible says what he did to folks like them. It's not a stretch.

[Four O'Clock]

Originally posted by BillyBob
I have to laugh at anybody who pretends to know what Jesus would say about modern politics, political parties or politicians.
Here, watch me: :darwinsm:

And tho I too laugh at many of the waterered down "Christian" messages that many liberal minds attempt to serve up, I have to also laugh at the radical right wing militia-like "evangelical" dogmatic knuckleheads that attempt to position their warped message alongside the Bible as some sort of parallel Biblical truth and then shamelessly attack anyone who would question or call them out on it.
Here, watch me: :darwinsm:

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by Four O'Clock

And tho I too laugh at many of the waterered down "Christian" messages that many liberal minds attempt to serve up, I have to also laugh at the radical right wing militia-like "evangelical" dogmatic knuckleheads that attempt to position their warped message alongside the Bible as some sort of parallel Biblical truth and then shamelessly attack anyone who would question or call them out on it.


You'll never see me doing that.


Here, watch me: :darwinsm:

For some reason it was funnier when I did that.....

[Frank Ernest]

Originally posted by Four O'Clock

And tho I too laugh at many of the waterered down "Christian" messages that many liberal minds attempt to serve up, I have to also laugh at the radical right wing militia-like "evangelical" dogmatic knuckleheads that attempt to position their warped message alongside the Bible as some sort of parallel Biblical truth and then shamelessly attack anyone who would question or call them out on it.

Originally posted by drbrumley

Bible says what he did to folks like them. It's not a stretch.
Guess not.
Jos:5:13: And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?
Jos:5:14: And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?

Jos:6:21: And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ***, with the edge of the sword.

[Four O'Clock]

Originally posted by BillyBob

(1) You'll never see me doing that.

(2) For some reason it was funnier when I did that.....


(1) You're right, that was basically directed at the Polys, Art Decos, Franks, Sozos, Enyarts, McBirneys, etc...that lurk here...

2) You're right again; I basically plagerized your earlier routine and humbly ask that no legal action be taken...

[BillyBob]

Eh, I try to avoid using the legal system as much as possible. I'd rather 'take care' of things myself......

:chuckle:

[Morpheus]

Originally posted by BillyBob

No, they are not liberal. They do it freely and without governmental nudging. In the time of Jesus the poor were starving because they were being neglected by their brothers. That is why he admonished them to do those things. When most of the present social programs were initiated it was because people were in desperate need and dieing. The church was not fulfilling their responsibility, so the government stepped in. Remember, I'm old enough to remember much of those times. The concept of giving is fiscally liberal. Your church brothers & sisters may be morally conservative, but by seeing the needs of others and fulfilling them they are fiscally liberal. The political/fiscal conservatives consider someone elses suffering something the other person needs to be responsible for, even if he can't.



Of course not, liberalism is the foundation of taxation. The problem is that you libs rely on Republicans to pay your bills then take credit for it. Since when do Republicans pay all of the taxes? Republicans are just better at finding, or making, loopholes.



They do more than that! They continue to donate their time and money to feed the poor even though the libs are stealing their money through taxation! That is because they are fiscally liberal. If they were conservative they would keep it for themselves.




Did you work for free, Weldo the Magnificent? How many people have you healed? Did you know that even Paul had a job? Normally I don't like to talk about it; but since you brought it up, yes I have worked for free in several circumstances. I didn't work for my employers for free because they already were doing well enough on their own. But I guarantee that a much larger portion of what I earned went freely to others than most could admit. My wife and I have kept well over thirty children in our home for substantial periods of time; most without even partial support. One we adopted at seven. Two we adopted in infancy. There were times when I would come home and we would be feeding 50+ kids with all the friends or youth groups. Many of these kids have returned with their own to visit. One has even returned with her grandchild. They say we changed their lives. I paid for my wife to return to school to get her masters in social work. She works in a large inner-city school doing therapy with children from 3-20. My wife can't introduce those kids to me because of confidentiality, but they can choose to do so themselves. Children that most would consider throw-aways. I have watched many of them change dramatically. Many overcome their abusive junky parents and a school system that ignores them. Some survive to become adults because there is someone who truly cares about them.

So you ask me if I worked for free. Pretty much so. How many people have I healed? I didn't do the healing; I was no more than a pill given to them by the doctor, but many survived horrible childhoods to do quite well. Why did my wife and I do it? We were inspired as teens to consider others more important than ourselves. That is liberal.



When Hillary Clinton can heal lepers and raise the dead, get back to us. Just another elitist.




No, their requirement is to protect the US from its enemies. By the way, if hatred isn't a liberal mainstay, then why do you guys hate George Bush so much? :think: Misunderstanding. I don't hate Bush. I believe that he is at best foolish, and at worst evil. I find it sad that so many institutionalized Christians have chosen to blend their faith with patriotism. That they have chosen to ignore much of Christ's teaching to follow a man who leads with lies. But I don't hate him. I would love to sit down and talk with him.




Yeah, Conservatives are philanthropic on their own, liberals legislate it.

Get a clue! I agree that it shouldn't be the job of government to take care of the needs of the poor. But not because of the reasons most conservatives give. I believe it because it is the responsibility of Christians to do so. Completely. If the Christians had been able to do their job adequately the government would not be in the business now. But since we were not doing it I have no problem with the government stepping in to save lives. I have a problem with the church for bringing it to this. Now those people see it as owing their lives to government programs instead of owing their lives to the Lord.

[On Fire]

:Grizzly: :Commie: :sibbie:

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by Morpheus

The concept of 'giving' is fiscally liberal.

You misspelled Stealing money from one group of people and giving it to another while taking a large slice off the top for yourself.



Republicans are just better at finding, or making, loopholes.

Then why did John and Teresa Kerry pay 12% in Income tax last year While GW and Dick Cheney paid about 35%? :think:

[Morpheus]

Originally posted by BillyBob

You misspelled Stealing money from one group of people and giving it to another while taking a large slice off the top for yourself. Personally I would be for going back to the fornding fathers original version of taxation. Get rid of most taxation and institute a national property tax to cover the budget.

[Frank Ernest]

There was no national property tax in those days. The federal government raised money through customs and duties.

The problem is lie-berals who think government should be a charity run by Santa Claus.

[Morpheus]

Originally posted by Frank Ernest

There was no national property tax in those days. The federal government raised money through customs and duties.

The problem is lie-berals who think government should be a charity run by Santa Claus. No, property owners paid taxes. Those who owned no property didn't.

[aikido7]

Some of Jesus' Disciples carried weapons.

...exactly!

[BillyBob]

...most definitely!

[Frank Ernest]

Originally posted by Morpheus

No, property owners paid taxes. Those who owned no property didn't.
:sigh:

[Delmar]

Originally posted by BillyBob

Some of Jesus' Disciples carried weapons. Not only that but he told them to carry weapons.

[Four O'Clock]

Originally posted by deardelmar

Not only that but he told them to carry weapons.

Lock and load you right wing knuckleheads and continue your shameless attempts to attach a Christian Truth to your stockpiling...(geez, you militia boys and girls just won't quit :kookoo: :zakath: :doh: :cry: )

William Robert may get a pass here as he doesn't seem to attach any Christian Divineness to "packing heat"

[Frank Ernest]

Yet another left-wing knuckehead who thinks Christians should be prey animals. :down:

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by Four O'Clock

Lock and load you right wing knuckleheads and continue your shameless attempts to attach a Christian Truth to your stockpiling...(geez, you militia boys and girls just won't quit :kookoo: :zakath: :doh: :cry: )


Hang on, Four O Clock, you struck first! You were the person who attempted to attach Christianity to your belief that we should not have guns, in this post:

Originally posted by Four O'Clock

In the meantime we might all ponder what reaction our Lord and Savior might have walking again among us and seeing all the armor and artillery you gun-totin' right wing knuckleheads are packing....anyone of you that doesn't think He would rebuke you on this is either a liar or foolish...

:kookoo:

[BillyBob]

And this one:


I still maintain that if our Savior came into our homes and found a large cache of guns (semi-autos, other varieties, etc..etc..) that I'd bet many of you on board here possess you'de all get a Divine admonishment from The Master and you know it. As I said, how can anyone not simply accept this save the fool or liar.

[Poly]

Originally posted by Four O'Clock


In the meantime we might all ponder what reaction our Lord and Savior might have walking again among us and seeing all the armor and artillery you gun-totin' right wing knuckleheads are packing....anyone of you that doesn't think He would rebuke you on this is either a liar or foolish...

:kookoo:


Luke 22:36
Then He said to them, "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by Poly

Luke 22:36
Then He said to them, "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.

That could easily be interpreted that Jesus would expect us to procure a handgun today [swords are so bulky].

[Poly]

Originally posted by BillyBob

That could easily be interpreted that Jesus would expect us to procure a handgun today [swords are so bulky].

And considering there were no guns back then. :eek:

Bottom line, Jesus didn't seem to have problems with weapons which is what Four o'clock seems to be saying.

[Four O'Clock]

Originally posted by Frank Ernest

Yet another left-wing knuckehead who thinks Christians should be prey animals. :down:

I work at an arts organization and in November our 13 person staff voted 11-1-1 for Kerry (our blind receptionist voted Bush and I voted for neither - two staff members are openly Communist - I laugh at their stupid naivity and attack their moronic doctrines on a regular basis.
Take your foolishness and strawman attacks elsewhere...

[Four O'Clock]

Originally posted by BillyBob

That could easily be interpreted that Jesus would expect us to procure a handgun today [swords are so bulky].

Oh it could? You'll have to go a long way to convince me of that.

However a handgun for personal protection? I have no problem with that. Rifles for hunting? No problem (as long as you eat the meat - IMHO killing to simply mount a carcass on your wall is a sin)
A cache of various weapons at your home would still bring a strong rebuke from our Lord - we'll just have to agree to disagree tho I still maintain that Christ would never give an old thumbs up to an AK47 or like weapon owner.

Let's all welcome back Poly the "truth smacker" who, in her attempts to expose the "nicer than God-ers" has become a "meaner than God-er"
I have been curious about something for some time young lady. How old are you?

[Poly]

Originally posted by Four O'Clock


Let's all welcome back Poly the "truth smacker" who, in her attempts to expose the "nicer than God-ers" has become a "meaner than God-er"
I exposed your ignorance in thinking that Jesus would have a problem with us having weapons today. If you want to call that mean then so be it. I call it finding out the truth.

I have been curious about something for some time young lady. How old are you?

"Young lady"? What are you my mother? :freak:

I'd say it was none of your busness but since it's on the calandar.....

Who cares anyway? What does my age have to do with anything?

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by Four O'Clock

Oh it could? You'll have to go a long way to convince me of that.

However a handgun for personal protection? I have no problem with that. Rifles for hunting? No problem (as long as you eat the meat - IMHO killing to simply mount a carcass on your wall is a sin)
A cache of various weapons at your home would still bring a strong rebuke from our Lord - we'll just have to agree to disagree tho I still maintain that Christ would never give an old thumbs up to an AK47 or like weapon owner.

How many swords do you think an average person owned during the first century?

How many is too many?

How many could he wield at once?

Is a person killed with a gun more dead than a person killed with a sword?

Is a person killed with an AK-47 more dead than a person killed with a handgun?

[Morpheus]

Originally posted by BillyBob

How many swords do you think an average person owned during the first century?

How many is too many?

How many could he wield at once?

Is a person killed with a gun more dead than a person killed with a sword?

Is a person killed with an AK-47 more dead than a person killed with a handgun? Does this lead to a new definition of the word psychobabble? Oops, I guess that would be psycho-babble.:D

[Four O'Clock]

Originally posted by Morpheus

Does this lead to a new definition of the word psychobabble? Oops, I guess that would be psycho-babble.:D

Come on, an assault weapon in every home would be just what this country needs.
:doh:

[Four O'Clock]

Originally posted by Poly

I exposed your ignorance in thinking that Jesus would have a problem with us having weapons today. If you want to call that mean then so be it. I call it finding out the truth.

"Young lady"? What are you my mother? :freak:

I'd say it was none of your busness but since it's on the calandar.....

Who cares anyway? What does my age have to do with anything?

You exposed nothing more than your continued aggression against anyone who would dare disagree with you. And I call your conclusions your interpretation of the Truth.

When you posted as "polycarp" a way back, I thought you had said you were 18 or 19 at the time which would make you 20 or 21 today IMO too young to be so grating and aggressive.
So I apologize for my patronizing a 36 year old.
I too get too carried away at times but you TOL "militia-neo-cons" sure do bring out the worst in me...:rolleyes:

[Granite]

Originally posted by BillyBob

How many swords do you think an average person owned during the first century?

How many is too many?

How many could he wield at once?

Is a person killed with a gun more dead than a person killed with a sword?

Is a person killed with an AK-47 more dead than a person killed with a handgun?

A Kalishnikov? Jeez, Billy. You COMMIE!

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by granite1010

A Kalishnikov? Jeez, Billy. You COMMIE!

Four O Clock was the person who originally referenced the AK-47 [post #46]. I was simply applying logic to this topic using the exact items he listed.

Notice how the commies are completely unable to answer my simple questions. It's so easy to hog-tie them, it's almost not fun any more.

:cow:

[Gerald]

I knew a fellow who hunted with an AK-47. He insisted it was the most accurate weapon he'd ever used.

[Gerald]

Originally posted by Four O'Clock
Come on, an assault weapon in every home would be just what this country needs.
:doh: I trust you're being sarcastic, yes...?

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by Gerald

I knew a fellow who hunted withan AK-47. He insisted it was the most accurate weapon he'd ever used.



They must be pretty relaible, there certainly are plenty of them out there.

It would be fun to have one............:Grizzly: :Commie:

[Poly]

Originally posted by Four O'Clock


When you posted as "polycarp" a way back, I thought you had said you were 18 or 19 at the time which would make you 20 or 21 today.

Darn! :noid:

I thought you were going to say you thought I was that young cause I looked 20 or 21 in my pictures. :eek:

I used to be Polycarpadvo. There's another poster named "Polycarp" another named "Polycarp also". I noticed another by the name of "Polypeptide". :freak:

[Gerald]

Originally posted by BillyBob
It would be fun to have one............:Grizzly: :Commie:
Most folks that I've encountered who purchase firearms do so because they feel...inadequate...in other areas.

Just thought I'd point that out.

Me, I'm familiar with a good variety of small arms (using and maintaining), but I will never voluntarily own one or allow one in my house.

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by Gerald

Most folks that I've encountered who purchase firearms do so because they feel...inadequate...in other areas.

Yes, I realize your social circle consists mostly of people you've met at your weekly 'A Christian Kicked My Asss Once' meetings.




Just thought I'd point that out.


Ditto.




Me, I'm familiar with a good variety of small arms


So is Michael Jackson!! :freak:

[Gerald]

Originally posted by BillyBob
Yes, I realize your social circle consists mostly of people you've met at your weekly 'A Christian Kicked My Asss Once' meetings.No, we changed our name to "We're Gonna Kill Mrs. BillyBob's Dog...Slowly...And Make Her Watch".
So is Michael Jackson!! :freak: Never heard of him!

[Four O'Clock]

Originally posted by Poly

Darn! :noid:

I thought you were going to say you thought I was that young cause I looked 20 or 21 in my pictures. :eek:

I used to be Polycarpadvo. There's another poster named "Polycarp" another named "Polycarp also". I noticed another by the name of "Polypeptide". :freak:

Actually I'd never visited your gallery and I just did; you are a very attractive lady (of course, I've always maintained <seriously> that a women reaches her prime in physical beauty between the ages of 35 and 40)

"Polypeptide"? Isn't that the little guy that got inside Fred Flintstone's belly in one episode?
:D

I will attempt to be more civil with you TOL folks. I do despise just as much of the naive left's garbage as the the right's garbage and IMHO there's more than enough to go around on both sides...

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by Four O'Clock

Oh it could? You'll have to go a long way to convince me of that.

However a handgun for personal protection? I have no problem with that. Rifles for hunting? No problem (as long as you eat the meat - IMHO killing to simply mount a carcass on your wall is a sin)
A cache of various weapons at your home would still bring a strong rebuke from our Lord - we'll just have to agree to disagree tho I still maintain that Christ would never give an old thumbs up to an AK47 or like weapon owner.

How many swords do you think an average person owned during the first century?

How many is too many?

How many could he wield at once?

Is a person killed with a gun more dead than a person killed with a sword?

Is a person killed with an AK-47 more dead than a person killed with a handgun?

[Sleepy Time]

Originally posted by BillyBob

How many swords do you think an average person owned during the first century?

How many is too many?

How many could he wield at once?

Is a person killed with a gun more dead than a person killed with a sword?

Is a person killed with an AK-47 more dead than a person killed with a handgun?

Awwak! Awwak! Polly want a cracker? Polly want a cracker?

The man plagerizes himself!
With all due respect here Billy, you're shooting your posting credibility in the foot here big time here...

[Art Deco]

Originally posted by Four O'Clock I will attempt to be more civil with you TOL folks. I do despise just as much of the naive left's garbage as the the right's garbage and IMHO there's more than enough to go around on both sides... Be who you are and spare us the feigned civility...by the way what kind of "Middle Of The Road" garbage do you espouse?...:think:

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by Sleepy Time

Awwak! Awwak! Polly want a cracker? Polly want a cracker?

The man plagerizes himself!
With all due respect here Billy, you're shooting your posting credibility in the foot here big time here...

You're the third person to comment on this particular post without addressing the issue.

Are you another commie? [changing the subject seems to be a common strategy of commies]



[because they can't actually answer the question......]

[Frank Ernest]

Originally posted by :BillyBob:

You're the third person to comment on this particular post without addressing the issue.
Except for the usual psychobabbling :cow:

Are you another commie? [changing the subject seems to be a common strategy of commies]
:darwinsm: Oh yeah! Seems they're clotting in slightly larger groups now.

[because they can't actually answer the question......]
They can't rationally answer the question which is why they resort to all the psychobabble, subject-shifting, holier-than-thou attitude, etc.

[Four O'Clock]

Originally posted by Art Deco

Be who you are and spare us the feigned civility...by the way what kind of "Middle Of The Road" garbage do you espouse?...:think:

Being a moderate doesn't mean middle of the road; it depends on the issue. I'm pro-life, anti-Commie, who wants my country to be repected around the world by our example. I think that by and large we do a good job but I'll be the first to speak up when we screw up and I want President Bush to do the right things but I am of the opinion that he rarely has an original thought and relies on the boys around him for policy.

From your posts Art, I doubt you have an ounce of civility in you.
The only thing I can appreciate about you is your user name (I have a coffee table book on Art Deco architecture - pretty neat)

[Frank Ernest]

:darwinsm:

[Four O'Clock]

Originally posted by BillyBob

You're the third person to comment on this particular post without addressing the issue.

Are you another commie? [changing the subject seems to be a common strategy of commies]



[because they can't actually answer the question......]

WHAT QUESTION MAGPIE!!! That your just as dead by a sword?, or a knife?, or a .38? or an AK-47?, or a machine gun mounted on your car?, or an atomic bomb? Yes, Yes, dead is dead. Did YOU have a point in all this? That ANY gun or weapon should be legal?

I truely believe they should give you white militia guys your own state (how about Montana? Is that big enough?) put a wall up and then shoot any one of you that tries to leave. We'll throw Michael Moore, Jessie Jackson, Hillary, Babs, and other lefty wackos over the wall once every month or so to feed you. How's that sound?
:D

[BillyBob]

We don't need our own state, we have the entire country! [as decreed by the 2nd Ammendment.] :banana:

But I'll play your little game. You commies should have your own state....say.....CUBA!

:wave2:

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by Four O'Clock

WHAT QUESTION MAGPIE!!! That your just as dead by a sword?, or a knife?, or a .38? or an AK-47?, or a machine gun mounted on your car?, or an atomic bomb? Yes, Yes, dead is dead. Did YOU have a point in all this? That ANY gun or weapon should be legal?



I was responding to your post where you said that Jesus would not sanction a cache of weapons. I used simple logic to expose your folly.

THAT is the point.


[ I can always tell when I beat you guys, your tone changes as quickly as the topic!] :darwinsm:

[Morpheus]

I guess we must just concede. You clowns are right. Jesus would come down here, blow up everyone but right-wing Americans, and then go collect all the booty to take back to heaven where he would host a drunken party for eternity.

[BillyBob]

That isn't what I said. YOU clowns just don't have an answer so you are doing a dance around this issue. [You're not a very good dancer]

[On Fire]

You may be a lover but you ain't no dancer.

[Four O'Clock]

Originally posted by BillyBob

That isn't what I said. YOU clowns just don't have an answer so you are doing a dance around this issue. [You're not a very good dancer]

No, I think YOU just don't have an answer; you dodge answering a ton of posts but you don't dance. You're either silent or launch your non stop ad hominem attacks. It goes both ways BB, neither side has a monopoly on spin doctoring an issue to make them look right. You've basically ignored my Alaska oil drill thread comments on this administration.

I'm convinced that regardless of what moves this administration makes your on board following Bush/Rove into the ocean like lemmings or marching along like brain dead rats while the Bush/Rove pied piper plays the tune.

I'm wondering if the TOL crew were around New England circa 1750 and calling the shots we'de all still be eating fish and chips and singing God Bless the Queen.
:think:

[Art Deco]

Originally posted by Four O'Clock

Being a moderate doesn't mean middle of the road; it depends on the issue. I'm pro-life, anti-Commie, who wants my country to be repected around the world by our example. I think that by and large we do a good job but I'll be the first to speak up when we screw up and I want President Bush to do the right things but I am of the opinion that he rarely has an original thought and relies on the boys around him for policy. You sound like a Kerry voter to me. Do you claim to be a Christian?

Posted by 4 o'clock: From your posts Art, I doubt you have an ounce of civility in you.
The only thing I can appreciate about you is your user name (I have a coffee table book on Art Deco architecture - pretty neat) Ounces no, tons yes...I was born at the tail end of the Art Deco period. This accounts for my screen name. (Doin great since '38). :D

[satalien]

Originally posted by Four O'Clock

I'm wondering if the TOL crew were around New England circa 1750 and calling the shots we'de all still be eating fish and chips and singing God Bless the Queen.
:think:

The Colonies! Love 'em or leave 'em!

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by Four O'Clock

No, I think YOU just don't have an answer; you dodge answering a ton of posts but you don't dance. You're either silent or launch your non stop ad hominem attacks. It goes both ways BB, neither side has a monopoly on spin doctoring an issue to make them look right. You've basically ignored my Alaska oil drill thread comments on this administration.

Not deliberately. I am all for sucking out all the oil we can wherever it is. Alaska is a particularly good place to drill because there aren't any people around.


I'm convinced that regardless of what moves this administration makes your on board following Bush/Rove into the ocean like lemmings or marching along like brain dead rats while the Bush/Rove pied piper plays the tune.

I agree with most of what Bush has done. That's not the same as being a lemming, commie.



I'm wondering if the TOL crew were around New England circa 1750 and calling the shots we'de all still be eating fish and chips and singing God Bless the Queen.
:think:

I had fish and chips last night. Quite tasty!



So, you have yet to address my post about weapons, all the while claiming that it is ME who keeps changing the topic. :doh:

[Sleepy Time]

Originally posted by BillyBob
So, you have yet to address my post about weapons, all the while claiming that it is ME who keeps changing the topic. :doh:

I addressed your post, it was #69...

[Sleepy Time]

Originally posted by Art Deco

You sound like a Kerry voter to me. Do you claim to be a Christian?

Posted by 4 o'clock: Ounces no, tons yes...I was born at the tail end of the Art Deco period. This accounts for my screen name. (Doin great since '38). :D

You may not have read my previous posts Art; I didn't vote for President in the last election.
And I don't claim to be a Christian; I'm often ashamed that I fail so miserably in following my Lord each and every day...

Are you 66? May you have many more birthdays...:)

[drbrumley]

Originally posted by Sleepy Time
And I don't claim to be a Christian; I'm often ashamed that I fail so miserably in following my Lord each and every day...

You know Sleepy, may I recommend the Plot by Bob Enyart.

I used to live with the defeatest attitude in my Christian Life. And it was killing me. It is my firm conviction that if it wasn't for Bob Enyart on TV that God started the framework for freedom. Then this site came up with some great people like Knight, Poly, Turbo, Crow and Clete and last but not least 1Way and Jefferson who actually teach some in thier posts and it is so refreshing. But the man I give most credit to, actually two men who God uses had a profound effect on me are Sozo and E4E. If you are tired of living the defeatest Christian Life, read thier theological posts. I thank God for all the above mentioned but mostly Sozo and E4E. Give them a shout and ask them. I believe thru Gods guidance you can live the glorious life of Christ in you. Peace!!!!