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Nineveh
March 14th, 2005, 11:38 AM
The Boy Scouts of America is pulling the charters of thousands of scouting units from public schools in an effort to spare them from lawsuits threatened by the American Civil Liberties Union.

In a letter sent to the BSA last month, the ACLU vowed to take legal action against public schools and other taxpayer-funded governmental agencies that charter Scout groups, claiming their sponsorship amounts to religious discrimination and violates the separation of church and state.

The ACLU specifically takes issue with the Scouts' pledge of allegiance to God and country and the organization's prohibition of homosexuals as scout masters.

BSA national spokesman Gregg Shields told the Baptist Press the organization was pulling its charters from schools "as a matter of stewardship."

"We obviously don't want that [expensive lawsuits against schools] to happen," Shields told the news agency. "Instead, the Boy Scouts have tried to protect the resources of our education partners by moving our charter from public schools to other community-based organizations such as parent-teacher organizations or Salvation Army units or nearby religious organizations."

Shields stressed the loss of its charter does not necessarily mean the scout troop can no longer meet at the school.

"Boy Scout troops will still have the same rights as any other community-based group to meet in school buildings, but the charter will not be held by the school administration," he said.

Shields hopes churches and other community-based groups will make up for the lost charters, estimated to be in the thousands.

The BSA is the largest youth organization and is run with the help of 1.3 million adult volunteers.

The BSA has learned to take the ACLU's threat of litigation seriously, having been in its crosshairs for 25 years. The ACLU has sued the BSA 14 times on similar grounds, according to Shields.

The BSA prevailed in the most prominent lawsuit when the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2000 to uphold a New Jersey troop's removal of an assistant scoutmaster after it became known he was openly homosexual.

This legal victory emboldened the ACLU and homosexual opponents to increase pressure on the organization.

As WorldNetDaily reported last fall, the Pentagon agreed to start warning its bases not to sponsor scout troops to settle one issue raised in a five-year-old lawsuit brought by the ACLU's Illinois chapter.

"If our Constitution's promise of religious liberty is to be a reality, the government should not be administering religious oaths or discriminating based upon religious beliefs," Adam Schwartz of the ACLU of Illinois said in a statement. "This agreement removes the Pentagon from direct sponsorship of Scout troops that engage in religious discrimination."

But Thomas P. Cadmus, national commander of the American Legion, said in response: "The idea that sponsorship of Scouting by American military units is 'unconstitutional' goes beyond the absurd, even well past the point of stupidity." cite (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43258)

The Berean
March 14th, 2005, 11:42 AM
The ACLU? Beh! :doh:

Free-Agent Smith
March 14th, 2005, 11:55 AM
leave it to the ACLU to destroy something that gives hope to children.

Gerald
March 14th, 2005, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Free-Agent Smith
leave it to the ACLU to destroy something that gives hope to children. It never gave hope to this one.

Maybe Troop 12 was just a crap unit, an aberration.

On Fire
March 14th, 2005, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Gerald

It never gave hope to this one.

Maybe Troop 12 was just a crap unit, an aberration.

:duh: You are the epitome of hopelessness.

Gerald
March 14th, 2005, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by On Fire
:duh: You are the epitome of hopelessness. I'm the Resident Fiend; it's in the job description.

And, hey, I did allow that the troop might be an aberration...;)

Nineveh
March 14th, 2005, 02:43 PM
I have to wonder if Gerald got his "vile and evil" badge....

Gerald
March 14th, 2005, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Nineveh
I have to wonder if Gerald got his "vile and evil" badge.... Sure I did!

An EAC rep dropped it off years ago. :D

The Barbarian
October 7th, 2007, 12:06 PM
Like any private organization, the Boy Scouts are free to discriminate as they will. They just aren't entitled to a handout from public money. I can understand how people wouldn't want their tax money to help out a private group that discriminates against them. Of course, when I was a scout, churches did the sponsoring, so there was no problem.

The Boy Scouts were a fine organization a few years ago, but something happened. They lost sight of what they were doing it for, membership started to decline, and then one scandal after another, as they repeatedly were caught inflating membership numbers (even creating entire false troops) to keep getting money from charities.

My son and I went through OA on the same weekend, we spent a lot of great times in summer camp and on campouts. He got a lot from the program. But most of the leaders from that time are no longer in the program, and most of them tell me it's changed.

And it's a shame.

Servo
October 7th, 2007, 12:16 PM
Never any rest for the Anti-Christ Legions of the Underworld....

The Barbarian
October 7th, 2007, 12:18 PM
Good heavens! The Boy Scouts may have gone a bit astray, but they are hardly the spawn of Satan.

Servo
October 7th, 2007, 12:24 PM
Good heavens! The Boy Scouts may have gone a bit astray, but they are hardly the spawn of Satan.

CRASH is right, you really are retarded...

The Barbarian
October 7th, 2007, 12:25 PM
Don't get frustrated. Get smart. Learn to frame a cogent argument, instead of simple-minded insults.

And then people won't laugh at you any more.

kalel29
October 7th, 2007, 05:05 PM
Don't get frustrated. Get smart. Learn to frame a cogent argument, instead of simple-minded insults.

And then people won't laugh at you any more.


It's very hard for them to do that. Remember, they are the true prophets of Christ and their insults are what Christ would have them say to those who are not acting "Christ-like"