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drRansom
March 16th, 2005, 09:31 AM
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37415
LIFE WITH BIG BROTHER
Grocery store goes to fingerprint payments
Piggly Wiggly debuts feature, privacy expert slams new technology

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Posted: March 4, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

The Piggly Wiggly grocery chain has announced it will begin offering a high-tech payment feature allowing customers in several stores to pay using their fingerprints.

With a touch of the finger to a light-sensitive pad, patrons will be able to pay for their groceries, provided they have an account in the store's system that can be debited, reported the Columbia, S.C., State.

The paper says stores in Columbia and Charleston are set to install the technology.

According to Pay By Touch, the San Francisco-based firm whose product is being used, the system takes 10 seconds to OK a payment by fingerprint.

Customer Karen Seymore is open to using the technology, the State reports.

"Not that it takes a lot of time to scan a debit card, but the finger scan would be more convenient," said Seymore, 32. "I'd just want to make sure the information is secure and couldn't get out to someone wanting to do damage."

Pay By Touch claims customers' personal information is stored in a secure database and cannot be accessed by unauthorized parties. The company says other stores that have utilized the technology find three-fourths of their customers sign up to use the fingerprint system.

Many privacy activists, however, oppose fingerprint payment technology. Katherine Albrecht is founder and director of Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering.

"We're extremely opposed to it," she told WND. "Of all forms of security, fingerprints are perhaps the least secure."

Albrecht explained research that has been done to show how a mold of a fingerprint can be made that then can easily be used to make a gelatin print. The fake print can be fit over someone's finger to be used fraudulently in a scanner.

"Why would you pick something [for security purposes] that you leave everywhere?" she asked, referring to fingerprints.

Albrecht also says fingerprinting is one small step away from embedded chips being used for payment. She says her organization is opposed to any sort of technology that can be used to track shoppers.

"When you eliminate cash, you eliminate anonymity," she explained, saying any kind of technology that tracks purchases can be used by governments to control food supplies.

According to Albrecht, an independently owned Thriftway store in Seattle was the first to use fingerprint payment technology about a year ago. Kroger then followed suit.

" And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name" (Rev. 13:11-17)

Will we one day be unable to buy or sell without biometrically scanning? Is all of this incremantalism leading to Revelation 13?

drRansom
March 16th, 2005, 09:33 AM
Here's a related story:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=573&e=1&u=/nm/20050314/od_nm/odd_germany_fingerprint_dc
Paying by Fingerprint at the Supermarket

Mon Mar 14,10:31 AM ET - Reuters

BERLIN (Reuters) - Customers of a German supermarket chain will soon be able to pay for their shopping by placing their finger on a scanner at the check-out, saving the time spent scrabbling for coins or cards.

An Edeka store in the southwest German town of Ruelzheim has piloted the technology since November and now the company plans to equip its stores across the region.

"All customers need do is register once with their identity card and bank details, then they can shop straight away," said store manager Roland Fitterer.

The scanner compares the shopper's fingerprint with those stored in its database along with account details.

Edeka bosses said they were confident the system could not be abused.

drbrumley
March 16th, 2005, 09:34 AM
Well, as the Church Lady used to say,

"Isn't that Special?"

BillyBob
March 16th, 2005, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by drRansom


" And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name" (Rev. 13:11-17)


So fingerprints are now the mark of the beast?

drbrumley
March 16th, 2005, 09:39 AM
How ironic that picture is posted. Two politicians who care about nobody but thier power.

drRansom
March 16th, 2005, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by drbrumley

Well, as the Church Lady used to say,

"Isn't that Special?"

If she tried to say that today to Big Brother his boot would be gringing her head into the ground.

Yes, that is special ma'am...

drbrumley
March 16th, 2005, 09:44 AM
Truth.

BillyBob
March 16th, 2005, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by drbrumley

How ironic that picture is posted. Two politicians who care about nobody but thier power.

They're laughing at you fanatic, doomsday knuckleheads who see Armageddon around every corner.

drRansom
March 16th, 2005, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by BillyBob

So fingerprints are now the mark of the beast?

The key word and point of my post is incremental, BB. Not only America but the whole world is gradually moving to a cashless society. The evidence is all around if you would just objectively look.

Oh, and maybe you should actually read the WorldNetDaily article before you post reactionary, emotional responses - the article briefly goes into the security and privacy concerns of biometric scanning.

drbrumley
March 16th, 2005, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by BillyBob

They're laughing at you fanatic, doomsday knuckleheads who see Armageddon around every corner.

Um, I dont look for Armegeddon around every corner you bonehead.

BillyBob
March 16th, 2005, 09:46 AM
Bonehead! :darwinsm:

drbrumley
March 16th, 2005, 09:48 AM
Thought you would get a laugh out of that.