Is granite worth debating?

[Lucky]

Title says it all.

[Nineveh]

...lest we forget (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=641599#post641599)....

[Thia]

Originally posted by Lucky

Title says it all.

Uh oh - is Granite the scapegoat du jour?

[Sozo]

Doesn't there have to be at least two people making points to have a debate?

[Granite]

Well, a thread like this was only a matter of time.

Sweet. I have officially arrived.:chuckle:

Haven't been abused like this since Sozo had waaaay too much time on his hands.

In the words of some immortal wise man: screw 'em if they can't take a joke!

:devil:

[On Fire]

Besides the fact that he denies Christ is Lord, he's a nice guy. He can get a little emotional. But no one is exempt from truthsmacking.

[Zakath]

Originally posted by granite1010

Well, a thread like this was only a matter of time.

Sweet. I have officially arrived.:chuckle:Congratulations. :D

[Granite]

Originally posted by Zakath

Congratulations. :D

Takes a bow.:D

[Mr. Coffee]

REAL LIFE: You can't make another person understand, believe, want, or do anything. To accept this is to affirm the basic dignity of your debate-opponent, and you come off pretty dignified yourself.

[Thia]

Originally posted by ilyatur

REAL LIFE: You can't make another person understand, believe, want, or do anything. To accept this is to affirm the basic dignity of your debate-opponent, and you come off pretty dignified yourself.

Well said! It takes quite a bit of maturity to debate someone without getting frustrated and/or irate!

[Poly]

Is granite worth debating?
Depends on what is being debating. Seeing as how his recent pounding has to do with a really important and current life and death issue it's important to see just how far one will go and how ridiculous one can be in defending evil.

[Granite]

Originally posted by Poly

Depends on what is being debating. Seeing as how his recent pounding has to do with a really important and current life and death issue it's important to see just how far one will go and how ridiculous one can be in defending evil.

"Pounding"? Honey, the last thing I am is gravel right now. I am granite!:chuckle:

[Zakath]

Originally posted by granite1010

... I am granite!:chuckle:
Hear him roar! :chuckle:

[Granite]

:devil:

[Lighthouse]

Originally posted by granite1010

"Pounding"? Honey, the last thing I am is gravel right now. I am granite!:chuckle:
You're definitely thick enough to be granite.

[Servo]

:madmad:

:Grizzly: :devil:

[SOTK]

Originally posted by lighthouse

You're definitely thick enough to be granite.

:darwinsm:

Personally, I've heard enough from granite to form the opinion that he is a waste of time. He is bitter and harbors nothing but ill will towards Christians. This attitude of his is prevalent in the majority of his posts. Until he drops the bitterness and attitude, he will never be worth the time in debating moral Christian issues.

[BillyBob]

Hmmmm....I have had some reasonable discussions with Granite. He's OK in my book.

[BillyBob]

I don't agree with him about Christianity, but he participates in a lot of political threads and usually doesn't mention faith in those threads.....

[SOTK]

Originally posted by BillyBob

I don't agree with him about Christianity, but he participates in a lot of political threads and usually doesn't mention faith in those threads.....

Yeah, I can agree with you about that. This is why I stated moral Christian issues. When is comes to Christianity and the moral and Biblical stances we take as Christians, he goes out of his way to mock Christ and God's Word.

[BillyBob]

Well, that would certainly make him unpopular around here, no doubt.

[Granite]

You're a waste of time without a sense of humor.

Plenty of TOLers take themselves waaaaaay too seriously.

[patsfan]

go granite, go granite :bannana:

[On Fire]

Hmmmm....granite has a cheerleader who is also a Patsy fan.

[Granite]

Originally posted by On Fire

Hmmmm....granite has a cheerleader who is also a Patsy fan.

OF, don't be bitter just because your guys choked (again) in Gillette.:cool:

[patsfan]

Wow, that was so mature!! i cant believe it! that was, oh my god, such a funny come back.

Did you come up with that one your self or did you have a team of monkeys working round the clock on that one. :thumb:

[Gerald]

Originally posted by On Fire
Besides the fact that he denies Christ is Lord, he's a nice guy.That is a conceptual impossibility, like a square circle or a married bachelor.

[patsfan]

three time world champs!!!

[On Fire]

Originally posted by patsfan

Wow, that was so mature!! i cant believe it! that was, oh my god, such a funny come back.
Mature? Funny? It was just an observation. Go back to bed.

[On Fire]

Originally posted by Gerald

That is a conceptual impossibility, like a square circle or a married bachelor. That's silly.

[patsfan]

wow, i just figured it out, you attack randomly any one who doesnt agree with you. all along i just though you were just immature, but now i realize that you are, but also, very scared of something.

[Granite]

Originally posted by Gerald

That is a conceptual impossibility, like a square circle or a married bachelor.

Hey, man. Keep away from my compliment!

[On Fire]

Are you granite's little brother or sister? Or maybe granite himself without a dictionary?

Pay attention - I attack STUPIDITY.

[On Fire]

Originally posted by granite1010

Hey, man. Keep away from my compliment!
;)

[patsfan]

That’s a really broad range. Question to the man in the front who attacks stupidity, who do you measure intelligence from? To attack stupidity I mean. Who is the standard you judge intelligence off of to attack stupidity?

Your self? A dead man who wrote volumes on a paragraph from a book? Where do you judge intelligence to judge stupidity?

Simple question, your turn to answer.

[On Fire]

Originally posted by patsfan

you attack randomly any one who doesnt agree with you This, for example, is stupid.

[patsfan]

you didnt answer the question. it was very simple. shall i ask again?

who do you measure intelligence from? in order to attack stupidity you must first know what intelligence is. who or what do you measure that from?

[On Fire]

Perhaps you are new to forums. This is a place where people share their OPINIONS. And in my opinion, every comment you have posted thus far in your short and bitter life here has been stupid. Stupid is as stupid does.

[BillyBob]

Hey Granite, 'patsfan' isn't helping you very much! :chuckle:

[On Fire]

Originally posted by BillyBob

Hey Granite, 'patsfan' isn't helping you very much! :chuckle: I think they went to lunch...together. :flamer:

[Granite]

Originally posted by BillyBob

Hey Granite, 'patsfan' isn't helping you very much! :chuckle:

I don't know who the cat is. Has a good sense of quality football teams, though.:chuckle:

[Gerald]

Originally posted by granite1010
Hey, man. Keep away from my compliment! Jus' doin' my job, man.

See over there to the left? "Curdling the milk of human kindness"?

Now, what kind of Resident Fiend would I be if I played favorites?

:chuckle:

[Granite]

A weak one. Sorry. My bad!

I'm wondering, just out of curiosity, what crawled up Lucky's orifice and died. I mean, something out of the ordinary must've provoked this thread.

[patsfan]

listen, if you would like to sit there and act like one of the little kids i used to sit for go for it. I thought that i might find some grown up here, you know people who can do more then sit around and call people they cant out argue stupid.

go back to preschool, maybe they will indulge your name calling.

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by patsy

listen, if you would like to sit there and act like one of the little kids i used to sit for go for it. I thought that i might find some grown up here, you know people who can do more then sit around and call people they cant out argue stupid.

I'm sorry, I must have missed the post where you brilliantly debated another poster into submission. :rolleyes:



go back to preschool, maybe they will indulge your name calling.

Ay least school kids know how to use capitalization. :dunce:

[patsfan]

Okay, so why dont you answer my question, BillyBob, to which OF has yet to give me an answer on.

Who or what do you measure intelligence from?

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by patsfan

Who or what do you measure intelligence from?

Under what circumstances?

[Servo]

Originally posted by patsfan

listen, if you would like to sit there and act like one of the little kids i used to sit for go for it. I thought that i might find some grown up here, you know people who can do more then sit around and call people they cant out argue stupid.

go back to preschool, maybe they will indulge your name calling.

Go back to first grade, maybe they will teach you about grammar.

Oops! Not anymore!

[patsfan]

Any circumstance. In general, in every day life, here at TOL, all i want is an answer to my question. If you are incapable of answering and all you can do is dodge, just say so.

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by patsfan

Any circumstance. In general, in every day life, here at TOL, all i want is an answer to my question. If you are incapable of answering and all you can do is dodge, just say so.

I see, so you pose a very unspecific question expecting a hasty answer and when you don't get it, you insult the people you are having a discussion with and accuse them of dodging your dopey question? :doh:

Read my lips: CleverDan

[Zakath]

Originally posted by patsfan

Any circumstance. In general, in every day life, here at TOL, all i want is an answer to my question. If you are incapable of answering and all you can do is dodge, just say so. As my kids would say, "chill, man". ;)

All he was doing was asking for context... different measures for different circumstances.

[BillyBob]

Originally posted by Zakath

As my kids would say, "chill, man". ;)

All he was doing was asking for context... different measures for different circumstances.

Eaxactly.

[patsfan]

point taken.

[Sozo]

Originally posted by patsfan


Who or what do you measure intelligence from?

For now, the antithesis of anything you say.

[SOTK]

Originally posted by granite1010

You're a waste of time without a sense of humor.

Plenty of TOLers take themselves waaaaaay too seriously.

That's the excuse you use everytime a Christian poster calls you on your attitude. Your attempt to hide your bitterness by flipping it back on us and calling us "humorless" doesn't work on me. Nice try though. :)

[Granite]

I'm not the one so upset I'm starting threads devoted to people I don't like...

Christianity by definition is small-minded. And with that mentality comes a lack of humor. Sorry, anything people say ("plenty of TOLers have a sense of humor!") doesn't change that. You people have a tendency to be downright dour.

I've yet to have anybody here explain what sparked this thread specifically; evidently Lucky found something dead up a bodily cavity and took it from there.

[Zakath]

Granite wrote:
I'm not the one so upset I'm starting threads devoted to people I don't like...Perhaps you should. When in Rome (or Denver)...

Christianity by definition is small-minded. Don't forget elitist. All that stuff about hagios ethnos and the like. ;)

I've yet to have anybody here explain what sparked this thread specifically; evidently Lucky found something dead up a bodily cavity and took it from there.I'll propose an explanation...

... they don't like you, Granite.

You embarrass them and screw up their predetermined neatly categorized worldview. :D

[Lucky]

Personally, I've heard enough from granite to form the opinion that he is a waste of time. He is bitter and harbors nothing but ill will towards Christians. This attitude of his is prevalent in the majority of his posts. Until he drops the bitterness and attitude, he will never be worth the time in debating moral Christian issues.
That's the excuse you use everytime a Christian poster calls you on your attitude. Your attempt to hide your bitterness by flipping it back on us and calling us "humorless" doesn't work on me. Nice try though. :)
Replied via PM.

[Zakath]

Why'd he bother to post if he's replying via PM??? :think:

[Granite]

I propose we just let this thread wither on the vine, as I think everyone here has better ways to spend their time.

[Zakath]

I propose we just let this thread wither on the vine, as I think everyone here has better ways to spend their time.
OK.

If you wish... :D

[Turbo]

I don't know who the cat is. Riiiiight. :rolleyes:

[Granite]

No, really don't. Wish I could help.

[SOTK]

Perhaps you should. When in Rome (or Denver)...
You embarrass them and screw up their predetermined neatly categorized worldview. :D

That's it! Yes, you and granite and all the other atheist/agnostic/pagan :zakath: just threaten and embarrass the heck out of us! In fact, everytime I read your posts and thoughts I am afraid and feel like my world is coming crashing down around me! :idea: Maybe I should just end my life now to spare myself anymore embarrassment or fear from the great minds and terrible truths of granite and Zakath!

[Mustard Seed]

First off I think a granite is often far more reasonable than the likes of lighthouse and Sozo and often times is more on the right track than either of those (I know those aren't hard lines to cross but honestly granite has his good points quite often).


I'm not the one so upset I'm starting threads devoted to people I don't like...

Since when has the devotion of a thread been a stronger indication of emnity than the kind of language used against an individual. I can recall the following post that I replied to as being especialy irrational and emotionaly loaded from granite.

The post quoted and replied to--
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=688250&postcount=43


Christianity by definition is small-minded. And with that mentality comes a lack of humor. Sorry, anything people say ("plenty of TOLers have a sense of humor!") doesn't change that. You people have a tendency to be downright dour.

Small minded? I can buy the occasionaly dour but small minded as an inherent requisit to one who believes in Christ? If that's the case then what does being 'big minded', if you will, entail? Is your set of ideological paradigms more 'big minded' then Christianities? I know that's a loaded phrase with both the narrow broad takes on Christianity with the fact that a few of it's fafctions like excluding whoever their whim fits to exclude. But to say that one who believes in Christ is somehow inherently small minded is something I take serious exception too. So unless you can demonstrait such it would be wise to 'recant' the 'small minded' label. Though I don't like the dour label I conceed it is fitting more often than it should be.



I've yet to have anybody here explain what sparked this thread specifically; evidently Lucky found something dead up a bodily cavity and took it from there.


Perhapse you exploded on Lucky or a friend of his in like manner to the way you exploded against me. Just my hypothesis.

[BillyBob]

I propose we just let this thread wither on the vine, as I think everyone here has better ways to spend their time.


Oh no, you're not getting off that easy! :chuckle:

[Mustard Seed]

Oh no, you're not getting off that easy! :chuckle:


Did you note, though, the poetic flare of that plea for mercy?

Reminds me a bit of the Scarlet Pimpernel.

"Sink me!"

Such a funny show.

[BillyBob]

The worst thing you can do around here is plead for mercy, that just fuels the fire. :devil:

Better off taking your lumps as they come and try to have fun with it or fight back mercilessly. :box:


:eek:

[Lighthouse]

I hope rocky wasn't accusing me of not having a sense of humor... if I didn't I would have left a long tiome ago. And I would think BillyBob was a jackass.

[Frank Ernest]

That's it! Yes, you and granite and all the other atheist/agnostic/pagan :zakath: just threaten and embarrass the heck out of us! In fact, everytime I read your posts and thoughts I am afraid and feel like my world is coming crashing down around me! :idea: Maybe I should just end my life now to spare myself anymore embarrassment or fear from the great minds and terrible truths of granite and Zakath!
:darwinsm:
The truths of :granite:1010 and :zakath: are found in Matthew 4:8-9.

[Granite]

First off I think a granite is often far more reasonable than the likes of lighthouse and Sozo and often times is more on the right track than either of those (I know those aren't hard lines to cross but honestly granite has his good points quite often).




Since when has the devotion of a thread been a stronger indication of emnity than the kind of language used against an individual. I can recall the following post that I replied to as being especialy irrational and emotionaly loaded from granite.

The post quoted and replied to--
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=688250&postcount=43




Small minded? I can buy the occasionaly dour but small minded as an inherent requisit to one who believes in Christ? If that's the case then what does being 'big minded', if you will, entail? Is your set of ideological paradigms more 'big minded' then Christianities? I know that's a loaded phrase with both the narrow broad takes on Christianity with the fact that a few of it's fafctions like excluding whoever their whim fits to exclude. But to say that one who believes in Christ is somehow inherently small minded is something I take serious exception too. So unless you can demonstrait such it would be wise to 'recant' the 'small minded' label. Though I don't like the dour label I conceed it is fitting more often than it should be.






Perhapse you exploded on Lucky or a friend of his in like manner to the way you exploded against me. Just my hypothesis.

Hey Mustard!

Hafta say that one quote of mine you seized on was...huh. Maybe I didn't have my Happy Flakes that morning, or something. :D

I would stick to one of my statements, namely, that Christianity is small minded. But really, any monotheistic religion is and has to be. (As an aside I WOULD say Mormonism is a little broader in its worldview than mainstream Christianity; on the other hand, c'mon, man. I've been to your dances. You folks need to find other ways to have a good time.)

[Zakath]

That's it! Yes, you and granite and all the other atheist/agnostic/pagan :zakath: just threaten and embarrass the heck out of us! It's actually all the other former Christians who threaten and embarrass some of you...

In fact, everytime I read your posts and thoughts I am afraid and feel like my world is coming crashing down around me! :idea: Maybe I should just end my life now to spare myself anymore embarrassment or fear from the great minds and terrible truths of granite and Zakath!:clap:

I'm sure BB would loan you a firearm... :Grizzly:

[Granite]

Actually I think SOTK's comments were more honest than he realizes or lets on.

[Zakath]

Actually I think SOTK's comments were more honest than he realizes or lets on.
Honest or not, they deserved comment. ;)

[Mustard Seed]

Hey Mustard!

Hafta say that one quote of mine you seized on was...huh. Maybe I didn't have my Happy Flakes that morning, or something. :D

I would stick to one of my statements, namely, that Christianity is small minded. But really, any monotheistic religion is and has to be. (As an aside I WOULD say Mormonism is a little broader in its worldview than mainstream Christianity; on the other hand, c'mon, man. I've been to your dances. You folks need to find other ways to have a good time.)

I'd have to concure that our dances, at times, are deficient (course I've never been much of a dancer). I'd say however that LDS young adults have alot more fun then most the world thinks we do. And the nice thing about it is that we can actually remember the good time rather thann having to watch a video of the weekend because we blacked out and woke up the next morning with some rather unbearable side affects. 'Bonging' soda or water doesn't have nearly the adverse side affects that alcoholic beverages do and you still get the puking action quite often. (I did have a friend that held down two two liter bottles of soda (yes thats 4 liters of carbonation) and kept it down. 'Course the same kid downed a full sized box of "grape nuts" in one sitting also.


Oh and BTW, don't try orange juice, it has a harder time coming back up from what I've seen and it's not very plesant while it festers in there.


granite, I still have to take exception to your generalization. Unless you can provide some more points of evidence we'll just have to agree to disagree on that point too.

[BillyBob]

Whoa, this thread almost slipped off the 'Active Page', can't have that!

:devil:

[Delmar]

The term " casting pearls before swine comes to mind!

[Frank Ernest]

Did you note, though, the poetic flare of that plea for mercy?

Reminds me a bit of the Scarlet Pimpernel.

"Sink me!"

Such a funny show.
I got the DVD of the original! Great movie!
"They seek him here,
They seek him there,
The Frenchies seek him everywhere!
Is he in heaven, or is he in Hell?
That damned evlusive Pimpernel!"

YEAH!!

The portrayal of foppery was great! Kinda reminds me of ... :o
(Oops! Can't do it. It's Fellowship Week.) :D

[Zakath]

Bump... :devil:

[BillyBob]

:devil:

[SOTK]

Actually I think SOTK's comments were more honest than he realizes or lets on.


:darwinsm:

[Frank Ernest]

Hey Mustard!

I would stick to one of my statements, namely, that Christianity is small minded. But really, any monotheistic religion is and has to be. (As an aside I WOULD say Mormonism is a little broader in its worldview than mainstream Christianity; on the other hand, c'mon, man. I've been to your dances. You folks need to find other ways to have a good time.)
Matthew 7:13-14.

[Granite]

Matthew 7:13-14.

In that chapter verses 17 and 18 stick out in my mind.

[Frank Ernest]

In that chapter verses 17 and 18 stick out in my mind.
May I suggest that those verses are not complete without considering verses 19-20?

In a critical exegesis, it always helps to recognize and formulate a complete thought before one attempts an analysis. Just a friendly suggestion.

Regards.

[BillyBob]

Is granite worth debating?


That's debatable? :freak:





:chuckle:

[Granite]

Another thread bites the dust...

In all seriousness if anybody has a REAL problem with me, PM me. Otherwise threads like this are a waste of time.

[On Fire]

Waste of time? :ha:

[SOTK]

granite sure wants this thread to go away, doesn't he?

:chuckle:

[Granite]

Ahhhh, not really. It's just turned into a post booster, actually. If any of you people knew your orifices from holes in the ground this MIGHT have gone somewhere.

[On Fire]

Ahhhh, not really. It's just turned into a post booster, actually. If any of you people knew your orifices from holes in the ground this MIGHT have gone somewhere.
Like where?

Anyway, I think you would be a very worthy debate opponent. I, on the other hand, suck at debate so I'm NOT volunteering.

[Zakath]

I'd debate him.

Atheist vs. Agnostic... :thumb:

[Granite]

I'd debate him.

Atheist vs. Agnostic... :thumb:

Ready to rumble when you are, my good sir.:cool:

[On Fire]

I'd debate him.

Atheist vs. Agnostic... :thumb:
Kinda like a professional wrestling match?

[Zakath]

Kinda like a professional wrestling match?
:chuckle:

... maybe with a cage and cheering crowds. :devil:

[Mr. 5020]

I'd pay about a nickel to see that.

[Zakath]

I'd pay about a nickel to see that.
William Wrigley, Jr. built a business empire on a product people were willing to pay a penny for... :greedy: :chew:

[Granite]

:chuckle:

... maybe with a cage and cheering crowds. :devil:

So we're allowed to break tables, throw chairs?

[Zakath]

So we're allowed to break tables, throw chairs?
Hmmm... we'd have to get Knight's OK, since it's his virtual furniture... ;)