7 Years Until the End !

[OMEGA]

IT IS 2005

Only 7 years left till the year 2012 AD.

Are you ready to meet your MAKER ????????????

[godrulz]

You should learn from Scripture and history to not play the dating game. Your credibility is taking another hit.

Yes, I am prepared to meet my Maker. This is what we know: i) Jesus will return as He promised ii) We are to occupy until He comes iii) we are not to speculate on dates.

[PastorZ77]

IT IS 2005

Only 7 years left till the year 2012 AD.

Are you ready to meet your MAKER ????????????

What is this all about?

[OMEGA]

I have been away for awhile and just wanted to have A DATE with you guys.

Godrulz says that the Scripture indicates that we are not to make Dates but it only says that

it is Not for the 12 APOSTLES to know the Day or Hour but says nothing about the Year, Decade or Month.

Jesus says that it is Not for the 12 APOSTLES to know the Times and Seasons but Not US.

I think that with all the SIGNS , that the 2nd Coming will be around the year 2012 AD.

But other posters think that it will be for many years hence.

Acts 1:6 ¶ When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Acts 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

[godrulz]

Why 2012? Do you know how many false prophecies the cults have given relating to the end of things? Dime a dozen :juggle:

[Chileice]

Why 2012? Do you know how many false prophecies the cults have given relating to the end of things? Dime a dozen :juggle:

I remember sitting in a Coco's Restaurant in San Jose, Ca in 1988 with a group of pastors and lay leaders having lunch. Suddenly, a waitress came up to us and said that the Lord would come back in Sept. Specifically the 23rd or 24th, if I remember right. I remember we told her that the Lord said no one one would know the day or the hour and she said that was right. It could be anytime in this certain 24 hour period. We tried to help her maintain her faith in spite of the near certain disappointment that was just around the corner. Come to find out, thousands had been misled by some pastor in Arkansas who had done some numerological manipulation to PROVE the Lord HAD to come back then. Such stuff, Omega, is the stuff of fools. Yes, he will come back but you don't have a clue when and neither do I.

[godrulz]

There are scads of ancient and modern examples of those who play the dating game. Omega will go down as one of these (unless the Lord coincidentally does return in 2012, which is possible, but not probable).

[billwald]

Most every predictor says 2012 because it is the end of the Mayan calandar and other good reasons.

[wholearmor]

IT IS 2005

Only 7 years left till the year 2012 AD.

Are you ready to meet your MAKER ????????????

Then you obviously wouldn't mind signing papers stating you are turning all your possessions over to me in 2012 since you won't be needing them any longer.

[Turbo]

Most every predictor says 2012 because it is the end of the Mayan calandar and other good reasons.
:darwinsm: As if "it is the end of the Mayan calandar" is a good reason!

[BillyBob]

:chuckle:

[Balder]

It's not quite time yet. He'll come back just as soon as Elvis has left the building.

:drum:

[servent101]

Omega - good point, and you are batting well above average - you are half right,(just joking)... half the people in North America will die between 2012, and 2025 - simply because of old age, it is the demographics, and the average life expectanecy - anyone could figure it out.

So anyways, your post was good, half right, anyways - and for those who want to theorize what will happen when half of the taxpayers die in ten to twenty years, well half of the taxpayers will stop working well before that - and since the pension funds are taken out of general revenue, and half of the people stop working and start to draw on a non-exixtent government fund for pensions - well anyways will that end up killing the rest of us?

You might be more right than I gave you credit for - but your no prophet.

With Christ's Love

Servent101

[OMEGA]

With the Middle East Arming themselves with Russian and Chinese missles aimed at Jerusalem,

I think that it will culminate in Armageddon very soon.

Thursday - March 17, 2005

Egypt Mulls Buy Of 100 F-16s
WASHINGTON [MENL] -- Egypt has entered the advanced stage of
negotiations for the procurement of up to 100 advanced F-16s from the
United States.
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Russia Begins Marketing Vehicle-Mounted SA-18
MOSCOW [MENL] -- Russia has launched marketing of a vehicle-mounted
surface-to-air missile to Arab states.
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Hamas Test-Fires Kassam In W. Bank
TEL AVIV [MENL] -- Israel has uncovered a Hamas network that for the
first time test-fired a Kassam-class, short-range missile in the West
Bank.
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U.S. Enables Turkey To Bolster Forces In Cyprus
WASHINGTON [MENL] -- The United States has allowed Turkey to bolster
its forces in Northern Cyprus.
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Thursday - March 03, 2005

Jordan, Syria Sign Security Accord
AMMAN [MENL] -- Jordan and Syria have signed a security cooperation
accord.
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Russia Plans S-18 Sale To Syria
MOSCOW [MENL] -- Russia plans to sell the SA-18 surface-to-air
missile to Syria.

[42ndgen]

And the Sun a grocery store gossip rag has emphaticlly stated in big bold red letters on the cover of their magazine that...

Jesus will come back Sept 11 2005.

Luk 12:40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.


Unfortunately we do not live in that hour everyone is still setting dates for His return.

He is not returning UNTIL it is time for the restitution of all things.

Act 3:19-21 KJVA Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; (20) And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: (21) Whom the heaven must receive UNTIL the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.


Grace and Peac Patrick

[godrulz]

Jack Van Impe has been saying the end is soon for decades based on observing modern events. We have to be careful not to read the newspaper back into prophecy. Every generation of Christians for 2000 years (including Paul) thought the return was near. His return is imminent. It could happen anytime. We should not speculate too much. It certainly is nearer than it was yesterday.

[Imrahil]

IT IS 2005

Only 7 years left till the year 2012 AD.

Are you ready to meet your MAKER ????????????

In the Bible, false prophets were put to death. Do you give us permission to execute you if you are wrong? :think:

[Sealeaf]

Jesus said it was not for us or even Him to know just when the return would be so the effort to find out is a vain one. We will not know. There is a legitamate hint though. All the end times prophesys are about Isreal. For years Christians convinced themselves that the prophesys were really about them. Isreal was destroyed. The Jews were scattered. So Chrisendom was the "new" Isreal. But what do we know, now Isreal is a nation again after 2000 years. So maybe we should just trust God to do what He said He would do? It is all about Isreal. The Jews are the chosen people. Now that there is an Isreal the show can begin.

[wholearmor]

Then you obviously wouldn't mind signing papers stating you are turning all your possessions over to me in 2012 since you won't be needing them any longer.

Omega?

[wholearmor]

Jack Van Impe has been saying the end is soon for decades based on observing modern events. We have to be careful not to read the newspaper back into prophecy. Every generation of Christians for 2000 years (including Paul) thought the return was near. His return is imminent. It could happen anytime. We should not speculate too much. It certainly is nearer than it was yesterday.

How do you know? Maybe God moved it back a day?

[wholearmor]

Then you obviously wouldn't mind signing papers stating you are turning all your possessions over to me in 2012 since you won't be needing them any longer.

Still waiting for an answer, Omega.

[Granite]

Omega's good for comic relief, anyway.

Edgar Whisenant, anyone?

[Gerald]

In the Bible, false prophets were put to death. Do you give us permission to execute you if you are wrong? :think:You won't lay a hand on him until after I collect the $500.00 and a kiss on the bare backside that he's gonna owe me on 01/01/2013.

Then parboil him, for all I care. :chuckle:

[Gerald]

Most every predictor says 2012 because it is the end of the Mayan calandar and other good reasons.I understand that psychics and remote viewers can't see any further into the future than that...
:think:
:chuckle:

[Chileice]

Jesus said it was not for us or even Him to know just when the return would be so the effort to find out is a vain one. We will not know. There is a legitamate hint though. All the end times prophesys are about Isreal. For years Christians convinced themselves that the prophesys were really about them. Isreal was destroyed. The Jews were scattered. So Chrisendom was the "new" Isreal. But what do we know, now Isreal is a nation again after 2000 years. So maybe we should just trust God to do what He said He would do? It is all about Isreal. The Jews are the chosen people. Now that there is an Isreal the show can begin.


Really... It's all about God. He doesn't have to follow any plan made for or by anybody, Christian or Jew. Pegging prophesy to specific, people, places is a very risky business.

[Crow]

IT IS 2005

Only 7 years left till the year 2012 AD.

Are you ready to meet your MAKER ????????????


Say, OMEGA, if I were to offer you $50 for everything you own, and have legal documents drawn up to the effect that I would not take possesion until 2013, would you do it?

[billwald]

"All the end times prophesys are about Isreal. For years Christians convinced themselves that the prophesys were really about them."

Lots of years. Until J.N. Darby invented pre-mil, pre trib theology in the 19th century. All the main line denominations are amil or post mil. None require practicing Jews in their theology.

[Granite]

Omega, when are you gonna hand over all your worldy goods and find a mountaintop to sit on?

Unless, of course, you're hedging your bets...:shocked:

[Sold Out]

I do think the events are leading us quickly to the Lord's return, but I have to agree with Godrulz (and others) that speculating on exact dates is not important and that we should stay busy reaching the lost until He comes!!

[Zakath]

IT IS 2005

Only 7 years left till the year 2012 AD.

Are you ready to meet your MAKER ????????????

No, but I'm willing to share a bit of Maker's Mark with you. :cheers:

[beanieboy]

When I was a kid, I was freaked out, because I was told that the world would probably end around 1976, and new technology was a sure sign. Then it was 1984, and the bar code that we would all have to put on our hand and forehead to pay for things. Then it was Dec 31, 1999.

But from a Revelations POV, are there really that many signs?

[Dread Helm]

I cannot wat for seven years! I Can't wait until it's 2012...

[Dread Helm]

....Because then I'll debate you and you'll finnally realize that you can't predict the time of the second coming.

[Granite]

Hmmmmm. Now where oh where did the prophet go?

Omega, PM me and I'll give you an address to send anything of value, and might as well clean out whatever's in the bank. Hate to have all that sitting around for Antichrist to seize.:chuckle:

[SOTK]

When I was a kid, I was freaked out, because I was told that the world would probably end around 1976, and new technology was a sure sign. Then it was 1984, and the bar code that we would all have to put on our hand and forehead to pay for things. Then it was Dec 31, 1999.

But from a Revelations POV, are there really that many signs?

Hey, :beanboy:, where ya been?

[beanieboy]

Are there really any signs that points to the 2nd coming?

[wholearmor]

Since myself, Crow, and granite1010 have all offered to take Omega's stuff off his hands for him, we'll either have to split it 3 ways or draw straws. Of course, neither will be necessary since, as granite1010 pointed out, I'm sure Omega will be more than willing to hedge this bet.

[reverend]

You've got to realise that posting in response to the head-case is silly as he starts them to provoke reaction. He rarely responds properly himself afterwards...

[Jukia]

No, but I'm willing to share a bit of Maker's Mark with you. :cheers:


Ahhh, good stuff, that.

[beanieboy]

I think there is surely something in Rev about Pringles: And I saw many 7 cans, and each can contained 144 potato chips....

[servent101]

Seems that we are always looking for the signs of the end... and those who are watching intelligently according to some Wise People, are going to be blessed. - In the Great White North - snow and cold for several months of the year (that is why I call my home the Great White North) - anyways, I am prepared, have survival gear, and know how to live in the cold - but 98 % of the people here don't have a clue what to do if the power goes out - if it is longer than three weeks, epidemic will occur, and sickness will wipe out half of the population if the power goes out for two months.

There is no keeping anyone else alive - just your chosen few... No Chairity in the End Times or very little.

What do you all think you will do if there is a war, forget about when and if... have you made any plans on how to survive? do you have any knowledge of how to survive radiation poisoning? - what if the food supply dwindles and there is starvation all around you - how will you survive, or have you never thought of that?

With Christ's ove

Servent101

[wholearmor]

You've got to realise that posting in response to the head-case is silly as he starts them to provoke reaction. He rarely responds properly himself afterwards...

You're saying :spam:ming is silly? :shocked:

[billwald]

People look for signs of the end so that they don't have to be good neighbors. No sense polishing brass on the Titanic, right?

[beanieboy]

But what are the signs?
Remember the Bar Code scare?
I listened to a conservative Christian radio station. One of their sponsor sold rations for the Millenium melt down. "God wants us to be prepared."

I'm sure some are sitll in the bunkers.

[reverend]

But what are the signs?
Remember the Bar Code scare?
I listened to a conservative Christian radio station. One of their sponsor sold rations for the Millenium melt down. "God wants us to be prepared."

I'm sure some are sitll in the bunkers.

I lost my house and then it rained upside down. Does that count?

[Dread Helm]

In the Bible, false prophets were put to death. Do you give us permission to execute you if you are wrong? :think:
:first: Way to Go! :crackup:

[Zakath]

People look for signs of the end so that they don't have to be good neighbors. No sense polishing brass on the Titanic, right?
:thumb:

Good one, BW!

[servent101]

All I am saying is that to be prepared is not a sin... hope anyone reading this, if they have not thought of what to do when and if a disaster strikes... do so, one does not have to be a religious zealot to prepare for the worst.

With Christ's love

Servent101

[billwald]

Prepare how? Keep a year's food supply like the Mormons? And a year's supply of ammo in case your neighbor's didn't prepare?

[swanca99]

I'm His - I'm ready whenever He comes.

I DO have a year's supply of food...because my wife buys grains in bulk.

And I DO have a year's supply of ammo...because I haven't been shooting much since we moved back to the city.

[billwald]

Do you intend to share with your neighbors or shoot them?

[servent101]

billwaldPrepare how? Keep a year's food supply like the Mormons? And a year's supply of ammo in case your neighbor's didn't prepare?

This is your responsibility - to think it through, most people who have thought about it have a second home at least one hours drive from major cities - too far for the gangs to go.

It does not have to be that extensive of a preparation... just something to survive a few months, till the people who were too "whatever" to consider the possibility of the consequences of "whatever" - but distance from major centers -n places where there are over 100,000 in population - most small towns and cities close to forests will survive quite well in the event of a catastrophe - even catastrophes caused by mother nature... they simply do not think things through - most homes could be built completely "nature" proof - but it seems all the contractors are doing is the same old, same old. There are lots of ways and means to use solar wind or sun power - but who does? ... if anything does go wrong, seriously wrong, the people afterwards will be asking themselves how could we of been so stupid?

Anyways - what would it take to be secure? even in your own city? The cost of a vacation cottage somewhere in the bonnies, might not be that much at all.

And by the way - I do have my countdown clock running for the year two - thousand - two thousand years after the death of Christ... the calendars the romans killed Jesus was on the year six of the current calendar that we think is actually based on the death of Jesus - A.D. - not so, another slight error. Is there any supernatural happenings that would occur after the death of Christ - two thousand years later, not likely, that is not why I remember it is just that I for one think it is good to remember accurately the year of the Lord's crucifixion.

As a race, today, we have the technology to live and survive with just a source of gravity, No light, heat, soil or anything - just the technology is needed - Too bad do not strive to guarantee the survival of the human race that way - instead of making profit our motivator.



With Christ's Love

Servent101

[Aimiel]

As a race, today, we have the technology to live and survive with just a source of gravity, No light, heat, soil or anything - just the technology is needed Where did you get such a foolish notion? Without light and heat, we'd freeze to death. Without light and soil, no plants would grow. Without plants no animals (including man) could survive. They are responsible for turning carbon dioxide into oxygen. Without food we'd all starve to death. Without soil we'd get tired of looking at rocks and lava. Somebody has an over-active imagination. :dead:

[keypurr]

Only the father knows when.

[Mr. 5020]

Only the father knows when.Yeah, that made sense. :rolleyes:

[Aimiel]

Servent,

What are you worried about, you don't have anything to fear from the coming prince of the earth. He'll agree with your 'everyone is right about god,' attitude; you'll probably get a medal from him for turning in your neighbors who are Christians. It's seven years later that you have to hide from the wrath of The Lamb you should think about.