Zakath is a fraud!

[Sozo]

The resident :zakath:, Zakath (or as I like to refer to him...Zakass), is a complete fraud.

He "claims" to have once been a "christian", but is now an atheist.

I asked him a simple question, which he refuses to answer, because he knows it will expose him as a liar.

I asked him when the following took place when he was a "christian"?

"The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God"

His only recourse was to run and hide (again) and to put me on ignore.

Perhaps he will come back and tell us how he suddenly fell ill.

What a pathetic loser! :loser:

[SOTK]

Zakath hasn't fooled me ever since coming to TOL!

[The Edge]

so what is zakath?

[ShadowMaid]

... Isn't it still fellowship week? Or is my clock wrong?

[wholearmor]

... Isn't it still fellowship week? Or is my clock wrong?

You should see what he would have said if it wasn't.

[Sozo]

You should see what he would have said if it wasn't.

:think:

Zackass suddenly began posting right before this week began at an increased rate. One has only to read his posts in the last few days to see how he plays his game around here. He chums up with those who are naive to his ways, gathers his other atheistic and agnostic friends under his wing, and then he cautiously takes his shots at those who put their faith in God, only to claim fowl when countered. He is calculated and deceptive in his schemes, and avoids those who expose him. He is a confused and mentally unstable troll.

[godrulz]

I have seen posts and links where Zak explained his background, his perceptions, and his present state of atheism. I thought frauds pretended to be something they are not. It seems to me he is quite clear that he is not religious, and he was deluded when he claimed to be a Christian. He tried to play the game, but obviously something was wrong or went wrong. I do not get the impression that he was impersonating a pastor to fleece the flock. He seems to have an interesting resume, but now puts his time and energy into a godless life.

Let's hear it from the horses mouth. Sozo has a habit of starting threads against people, but not giving them a heads up that it exists. It is easy to scoff that he is running, but like myself, he may simply be unaware at the moment.

For the record, I am not defending his views or integrity. My desire is to pray for him, and defend and proclaim the Gospel to him. Only the Holy Spirit can convince and convict him. For those who want to join the cause, there is a thread about converting Zakath.

[wholearmor]

:think:

That was my feeble attempt at humor, Sozo.

[Sozo]

That was my feeble attempt at humor, Sozo.

I actually thought it was funny, but then I realized, how true of a statement it actually was.

The insanity surrounding the Schivo case, reveals just how much of a chasm there is among people in this country.

To hell with people like Zakass. Jesus died for Him and yet his only purpose and obsession in life is to spit in His face, and to mock those whose hope is in Him.

[wholearmor]

Well said, Sozo. You're one of the reasons I came back to TOL after a several month hiatus.

[Sozo]

Well said, Sozo. You're one of the reasons I came back to TOL after a several month hiatus.


And it's having made friends like you, that makes it hard for me to leave.

I genuinely appreciate you!

:cheers:

[wholearmor]

And it's having made friends like you, that makes it hard for me to leave.

I genuinely appreciate you!

:cheers:

Here here! :cheers:

[SOTK]

Sozo, how long are you going to be away?

[Knight]

Perhaps he will come back and tell us how he suddenly fell ill. :chuckle:

[Lighthouse]

I hope you didn't just figure out that he wa a fraud, Sozo.:p

[Granite]

Oh, great. Another burn-'em-at-the-stake thread. Woo-hoo!

[Sozo]

Oh, great. Another burn-'em-at-the-stake thread. Woo-hoo!


Hey... great to see you, granite!

Perhaps you would like to take a stab at the question...

When did the following happen to you?

"The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God"

[Granite]

Hey... great to see you, granite!

Perhaps you would like to take a stab at the question...

When did the following happen to you?

"The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God"

Wassup Sozo!

The Spirit bearing witness?:think:

Hmmmm...considering I wasn't with the Spirit when he decided to present his case, who can say? Are we talking about a profession of faith here? What specifically?

[Sozo]

Wassup Sozo!

The Spirit bearing witness?:think:

Hmmmm...considering I wasn't with the Spirit when he decided to present his case, who can say? Are we talking about a profession of faith here? What specifically?


I was simply going on your own proclamation that you were a christian at one point in your life.

A christian is a child of God. At what point did the Spirit of God bear witness to your spirit that you are a child of God? When did the Spirit let you know that you were a christian?

[Granite]

I was simply going on your own proclamation that you were a christian at one point in your life.

A christian is a child of God. At what point did the Spirit of God bear witness to your spirit that you are a child of God? When did the Spirit let you know that you were a christian?

I was brought up in the faith. I made a "profession prayer" as a child, so if you're looking for specifics I guess you'd have to use that. There is no one moment where there was an "Ah-hah!" moment, and I think anyone with honesty would admit that's not uncommon.

[wickwoman]

I have seen posts and links where Zak explained his background, his perceptions, and his present state of atheism. I thought frauds pretended to be something they are not. It seems to me he is quite clear that he is not religious, and he was deluded when he claimed to be a Christian. He tried to play the game, but obviously something was wrong or went wrong. I do not get the impression that he was impersonating a pastor to fleece the flock. He seems to have an interesting resume, but now puts his time and energy into a godless life.

Let's hear it from the horses mouth. Sozo has a habit of starting threads against people, but not giving them a heads up that it exists. It is easy to scoff that he is running, but like myself, he may simply be unaware at the moment.

For the record, I am not defending his views or integrity. My desire is to pray for him, and defend and proclaim the Gospel to him. Only the Holy Spirit can convince and convict him. For those who want to join the cause, there is a thread about converting Zakath.

I have very much respect for you, Godrulz, for posting this.

[wickwoman]

I actually thought it was funny, but then I realized, how true of a statement it actually was.
To hell with people like Zakass. Jesus died for Him and yet his only purpose and obsession in life is to spit in His face, and to mock those whose hope is in Him.

This sums you up quite well, Sozo. While securing your own "status" in Heaven, you damn those who dare disagree with you to Hell. You wear the badge "intolerant" as if it is honorable. But you fail to understand the true meaning of the word and thus demonstrate your own ignorance. I've known many people who are proud of their shortcomings. It is a sad state of affairs. But, I know some day you will see the true Light.

[Mr. 5020]

I was simply going on your own proclamation that you were a christian at one point in your life.

A christian is a child of God. At what point did the Spirit of God bear witness to your spirit that you are a child of God?It says it bears witness 'with' your spirit, not 'to' your spirit.

[On Fire]

This sums you up quite well, Sozo. While securing your own "status" in Heaven, you damn those who dare disagree with you to Hell. You wear the badge "intolerant" as if it is honorable. But you fail to understand the true meaning of the word and thus demonstrate your own ignorance. I've known many people who are proud of their shortcomings. It is a sad state of affairs. But, I know some day you will see the true Light.
Sozo's comment was all true. Truth is light. God's Word tells us the fate of non-believers. :zakath: has made his choice. What you call "true light" is a bunch of fairy dust and hog wash - it is false.

[Sozo]

It says it bears witness 'with' your spirit, not 'to' your spirit. It matters not, the point, in context, is that we are in the spirit and not in the flesh. The Spirit of God bears witness that we are children of God. Our spirit bears witness that we are children of God. They both equally bear witness that we are children of God. It has to do with God letting us know that we are His so that we do not grow weary as we continue to suffer in the body, knowing that they will be redeemed as well.

For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15. For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, "Abba! Father!" 16. The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17. and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with [Him] in order that we may also be glorified with [Him]. 18. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. 20. For the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope 21. that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. 23. And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for [our] adoption as sons, the redemption of our body.

[wickwoman]

Sozo, interesting scripture. The metaphor of childbirth is relevant. Where does this "child" come from? From within the mother or from without?

[The Edge]

Sozo, what is your religious affiliation and political affilitation?

[Granite]

Sozo's good for picking a fight but usually doesn't do more than blow smoke.

I have never really seen the guy contribute a relevant thread, chip in a smart two cents into a discussion, or make anything resembling a coherent or useful thought.

Whatever his issue is, the guy's angry and a real pathetic piece of work. Basically a wind-up toy: let him go for a while barking at whoever he doesn't like, then take him for a walk and let him find a hydrant.

[wholearmor]

Sozo's good for picking a fight but usually doesn't do more than blow smoke.

I have never really seen the guy contribute a relevant thread, chip in a smart two cents into a discussion, or make anything resembling a coherent or useful thought.

Whatever his issue is, the guy's angry and a real pathetic piece of work. Basically a wind-up toy: let him go for a while barking at whoever he doesn't like, then take him for a walk and let him find a hydrant.

Wow! Could have easily been said about Jesus by his enemies, except for the thread and hydrant parts.

So, granite1010, what do you say about wickwoman's posts? Are her thoughts coherent or useful?

[Granite]

Wow! Could have easily been said about Jesus by his enemies, except for the thread and hydrant parts.

So, granite1010, what do you say about wickwoman's posts? Are her thoughts coherent or useful?

Uh-huuuuuh. Sozo and Jesus. The minute Sozo says something approaching, say, the sermon on the mount, lemme know.

Wick's a sweetheart and I always appreciate her comments.

[wholearmor]

Uh-huuuuuh. Sozo and Jesus. The minute Sozo says something approaching, say, the sermon on the mount, lemme know.

Wick's a sweetheart and I always appreciate her comments.

I didn't compare what Sozo said to anything Jesus said. I simply pointed out what you said about Sozo could have easily been said about Jesus in His day.

Concerning wickwoman. Uh-huuuuuh. Not surprising.

[Zakath]

I guess So-slow figures that he's safe since he knows very well that I put him on ignore last evening... :chuckle:

[godrulz]

Hey... great to see you, granite!

Perhaps you would like to take a stab at the question...

When did the following happen to you?

"The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God"


True believers do have this witness from the Spirit. The Word of God and the character of God are more objective standards for our assurance. Millions of Mormons have a strong, subjective burning that they have the truth. Satan can counterfeit in the realm of feelings. We need an objective apologetic and a subjective one. Many people have a subjective, religious experience and 'assurance' that is deception and flesh. They think they are children of God, but they are not. I have the Spirit's witness AND the Word and character of God. So, many could and do say they have the subjective witness, but they also may have a false gospel or Christ (save your breath pronouncing which category I am in....no god-playing during fellowship week).

[wickwoman]

I guess So-slow figures that he's safe since he knows very well that I put him on ignore last evening...

So-slow. That's very funny! :chuckle:

I mean, er, Zak, now let's not's lower ourselves to their station. Tsk, tsk . . .

[wickwoman]

Granite is one of the most intelligent posters on this board. Excellent judge of character. Cheers!

[wholearmor]

So-slow. That's very funny! :chuckle:

I mean, er, Zak, now let's not's lower ourselves to their station. Tsk, tsk . . .

You can't go lower than someone you're already below. You could find yourself falling further down, however.

[Zakath]

So-slow. That's very funny! :chuckle:

I mean, er, Zak, now let's not's lower ourselves to their station. Tsk, tsk . . .
I stand chastened and rebuked... :(

Not for long... :chuckle:

[Zakath]

You can't go lower than someone you're already below.Since So-slow is about as low as I've seen on this board, that would be pretty difficult.

You could find yourself falling further down, however.:yawn:

[wholearmor]

Since So-slow is about as low as I've seen on this board, that would be pretty difficult.


Not considering the sources, it isn't.

[Zakath]

Not considering the sources, it isn't.Opinions are like noses... most everybody's got one and they're mostly full of hot air... ;)

[wholearmor]

Opinions are like noses... most everybody's got one and they're mostly full of hot air... ;)

Like that one, for instance?

[Zakath]

Like that one, for instance?No, that was a bromide, not an opinion. :chuckle:

[Granite]

Where exactly did the instigator of this thread run off to?

Here's a question: does anyone on TOL know Sozo? I mean personally, face to face?

[Zakath]

Let's hear it from the horses mouth.Hear what?

Sozo has a habit of starting threads against people, but not giving them a heads up that it exists. It is easy to scoff that he is running, but like myself, he may simply be unaware at the moment.Exactly the case. It's interesting to note that So-slow waited to start this thread close to midnight... quite a while after I logged off... then complained that I was avoiding it...

It's just another example of trying, convicting, and condemning a person in absentia... all the while claiming they put up no defense.

:chuckle:

[godrulz]

Hear what?

Exactly the case. It's interesting to note that So-slow waited to start this thread close to midnight... quite a while after I logged off... then complained that I was avoiding it...

It's just another example of trying, convicting, and condemning a person in absentia... all the while claiming they put up no defense.

:chuckle:


Judge, Jury, and Executioner...Mr. Intolerant

[Zakath]

Judge, Jury, and Executioner...Mr. IntolerantYep, that's our So-slow!

[The Berean]

What would happen if you put Sozo and Zakath in a sealed room and no one heard them speak. Would there be any words?... :think:

[Zakath]

What would happen if you put Sozo and Zakath in a sealed room and no one heard them speak. Would there be any words?... :think::chuckle:

Sometimes actions speak louder than words. :Clete:

[Sozo]

Hear what?

It's interesting to note that So-slow waited to start this thread close to midnight... quite a while after I logged off... then complained that I was avoiding it...

It's just another example of trying, convicting, and condemning a person in absentia... all the while claiming they put up no defense.

:chuckle:

That is an absolute lie!

I want it known and affirmed by Knight that YOU have blatantly lied in this post!

This is all of the evidence that is need to prove that YOU ARE IN FACT A COMPLETE FRAUD!

FACT # 1... You and I were discussing the question that prompted this thread at 10:12pm thru 10:37pm CDT last night. You chose to ignore the question at 10:24pm, and then made your last post on that thread at 10:37pm.

Fact # 2.. I immediately posted this thread at 10:42pm to expose you as both a fraud and to reveal to all that when the going gets tough, you get going (as usual).

Fact # 3... You're an idiot.

[Zakath]

There's that buzzing sound again... :yawn:

[wickwoman]

It sounded more like "wwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh" to me. :cry:

[Sozo]

There's that buzzing sound again... :yawn:

These constant meaningless posts from Zakass, are nothing more than an attempt on his part to cover up any and all evidence that he is a joke, not only on TOL but to his profession.

This is why I want to be banned from this place. Zakass, granite, godrulz, gerald, and wickwoman have destroyed the credibilty of this site, and made it nothing more than a complete farce.

[Granite]

These constant meaningless posts from Zakass, are nothing more than an attempt on his part to cover up any and all evidence that he is a joke, not only on TOL but to his profession.

This is why I want to be banned from this place. Zakass, granite, godrulz, gerald, and wickwoman have destroyed the credibilty of this site, and made it nothing more than a complete farce.

How about...ummm, gee. How about just not showing up anymore? Pull another disappearing act. You can't stand not knowing what's going on, so you'll come back, of course, but try it for a while. Just leave, genius.:rolleyes:

[wickwoman]

These constant meaningless posts from Zakass, are nothing more than an attempt on his part to cover up any and all evidence that he is a joke, not only on TOL but to his profession.

This is why I want to be banned from this place. Zakass, granite, godrulz, gerald, and wickwoman have destroyed the credibilty of this site, and made it nothing more than a complete farce.

How did godrulz make your like. Just curious. I mean, godrulz is a "brother in Christ" right? Why must you be banned? Have you no self control?

[Granite]

How did godrulz make your like. Just curious. I mean, godrulz is a "brother in Christ" right? Why must you be banned? Have you no self control?

Godrulz got his goat one too many times. And Sozo goes after Christians as much as he does the apostates like you and me, wick--disagreements over theology are enough for the mouse to get fired up.

As for his self-control, this meatball has got...hmmm...zip.


:devil:

[Sozo]

How did godrulz make your like. Just curious. I mean, godrulz is a "brother in Christ" right? Why must you be banned? Have you no self control?


No, godrulz is farther from being a christian than you and Zakass combined.

I would appreciate it very much if Knight would permenately ban me from this place.

Unless he does, I will continue to post here. I have no choice. It is the same as telling someone swimming in the ocean that there are sharks in the water. It's hard to simply ignore it.

But, Knight no longer respects me enough to do me this favor, which I do not understand. There are plenty of you who agree that I serve no purpose in telling you the truth, and therefore the truth is mocked whenever I post. Knight either believes that I do not post the truth, or he has no problem with it being ridiculed, by the likes of people like you.

I think there is a need for Christians to have a place where they can debate theology, but that is not what is going on here. This place has become a platform for those who hate the gospel to mock God.

[drbrumley]

You know Sozo, the whole world hates Christians, so what are you going to do, commit suicide? Or have someone kill you to put you out of this miserable life? So Sozo says he serves no purpose. Hogwash! You helped me whether you know it or not. You have called out those who pervert the truth and rightfully so and have backed you numerous times. Lighthouse has been helped by you if I am not misunderstanding Lighthouse. So where you get this "I don't post the truth" nonsense from is from your own mind and truthfully sad to witness. AS for Knight not banning you, I hope he doesn't.

[Gerald]

You know Sozo, the whole world hates Christians, so what are you going to do, commit suicide? Or have someone kill you to put you out of this miserable life?The world should be so fortunate, but no, creatures like Sozo are known for having excruciatingly long lifespans.

After all, if they died too soon, they'd miss out on a lot of complaining... :chuckle:

[drbrumley]

Gerald, your a bafoon. <CLICK>

[Gerald]

Gerald, your a bafoon. <CLICK>And you're just now noticing this? Where have you been?

:bannana: :devil: :bannana: :devil: :bannana: :devil: :bannana: :devil: :bannana: :devil: :bannana: :devil:

[godrulz]

I support not banning sozo. I support tuning him in to a more credible overview of things.

I think he lacks credibility to think I am not a Christian and worse than the atheists here. I have stood up against the atheists as much or more than he has. Speaking the truth in love rather than ad hominem attacks is biblical, not compromise.

Knight generally sides with sozo, so I am not sure what he is whining about. Knight is just more mature and level-headed to know that there is room in the kingdom for sozo and myself. I do not compromise on the essentials of the faith. Few will make it into heaven with sozo's legalistic views. The giants of the faith are damned because they do not articulate some things the same way he does.

It seems like death by cop (cowardly suicide) to want to be banned. If one cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen yourself. If freedom of speech is passe, then start your own happy holy huddle.

I believe God has given us divine appointments with the mockers here. I trust the power of His Word and Spirit to convince and convict them. I would rather give reasoned arguments for the hope that is within me, than attack other Christians and alienate searchers or reprobates. We can proclaim the wrath of God and judgment against some here, but others are honest doubters. Our witness should take priority over venting our spleens like we are Crusaders, killing those who do not convert on our time table.

There is a believers only section on the forum, is there not? If you do not value everyone's opinion or do not desire to influence the lost (rather than blast them), why not just hang out there. You could put everyone on ignore except your groupies who blindly agree with your ideas.

If you had a better grounding in church history, practical Christianity, exegesis, etc., you would exhibit more humility before God and others.

:chicken:

[Sozo]

I support not banning sozo. Anything to piss me off... uh?I think he lacks credibility to think I am not a Christian and worse than the atheists here I am more convinced that you are not a Christian, than I am that Bush is president.I have stood up against the atheists as much or more than he has. So?I do not compromise on the essentials of the faith. Define salvation.Few will make it into heaven with sozo's legalistic views For the gate is small, and the way is narrow that leads to life, and few are those who find it.The giants of the faith are damned because they do not articulate some things the same way he does. They are false teachers, like you.I believe God has given us divine appointments with the mockers here. Gos has given you nothing..

[godrulz]

I have dealt with hundreds of cultists. I would be rich if I had a dollar for every time they said that the gate was narrow and few find it (and that their way is the only way, or hit the highway). I wonder if you are not in a sect or cult (I still think you are saved).

Since you rarely agree with me on anything....sozo...what is 2+2?

I know it is 4. I went first. Now you have to say it is not 4, lest you agree with me :sigh:

So much for fellowship week. Let me guess, what fellowship does light have with darkness? :guitar:

[The Berean]

:chuckle:

Sometimes actions speak louder than words. :Clete:

:D

[Sozo]

Since you rarely agree with me on anything....sozo...what is 2+2?

I know it is 4. I went first. Now you have to say it is not 4, lest you agree with me :sigh:


It's 4.

Next?

[The Edge]

I would appreciate it very much if Knight would permenately ban me from this place.
Why? Don't you have any self-control at all? If you hate it here so much, leave! Quit whining about things that you can control.

Unless he does, I will continue to post here. I have no choice. It is the same as telling someone swimming in the ocean that there are sharks in the water. It's hard to simply ignore it.
See above.

But, Knight no longer respects me enough to do me this favor, which I do not understand.
You and everyone here all know that Knight has a lot on his plate right now with the board restructure and all. I don't think he's even paying attention to the little fly buzzing around. He's got bigger things to worry about.

There are plenty of you who agree that I serve no purpose in telling you the truth, and therefore the truth is mocked whenever I post. Knight either believes that I do not post the truth, or he has no problem with it being ridiculed, by the likes of people like you.
I think you will continue to be mocked unless you take your personal problems with Zakath into a private discussion with him so we don't have to listen to your whining. Although I will admit, it is sometimes amusing to watch a fight, but this hasen't been much of one....this thread was more like watching a whiney little kid begging for candy in the grocery store. You know the kid won't win, but you watch anyway because it draws attention.

I think there is a need for Christians to have a place where they can debate theology, but that is not what is going on here. This place has become a platform for those who hate the gospel to mock God.
Uh, have you looked around on TOL yet? Open your eyes.

T.E.

[Lighthouse]

Lighthouse has been helped by you if I am not misunderstanding Lighthouse.
No misunderstanding.

[wickwoman]

Sozo, the poster with the rebel flag loves you, at least, you should feel honored (not).

Might I suggest reinventing yourself? Perhaps a softer, more Christlike Sozo. You could start by not posting when you feel enraged or insulted. You could begin to actually read what people post and try to understand the spirit of their words. You could try branching out a bit and reading some interesting books or meeting people who are different than you.

Here's one simple thing you could try. Next time someone posts something to which you feel compelled to reply with some awful commentary such as is your habit. Try, instead, to direct your attention inwards. Turn your brain towards itself, in a manner of speaking. And observe how the post makes you feel and why it makes you feel that way and why do you think that "why" is there. What could that hurt, Sozo?

[Granite]

Sozo, the poster with the rebel flag loves you, at least, you should feel honored (not).

Might I suggest reinventing yourself? Perhaps a softer, more Christlike Sozo. You could start by not posting when you feel enraged or insulted. You could begin to actually read what people post and try to understand the spirit of their words. You could try branching out a bit and reading some interesting books or meeting people who are different than you.

Here's one simple thing you could try. Next time someone posts something to which you feel compelled to reply with some awful commentary such as is your habit. Try, instead, to direct your attention inwards. Turn your brain towards itself, in a manner of speaking. And observe how the post makes you feel and why it makes you feel that way and why do you think that "why" is there. What could that hurt, Sozo?

Too late.

He got his wish.

[Mr. 5020]

Too late.

He got his wish.
Yep. :(

[The Edge]

Is he really banned now?

[wickwoman]

Wow . . . hear that . . . it's quiet now. ahhhhhhh.

[The Edge]

we're still makin' noise

[Delmar]

These constant meaningless posts from Zakass, are nothing more than an attempt on his part to cover up any and all evidence that he is a joke, not only on TOL but to his profession.

This is why I want to be banned from this place. Zakass, granite, godrulz, gerald, and wickwoman have destroyed the credibilty of this site, and made it nothing more than a complete farce.No, the site only losses credibility if nobody answers lies with the truth.

[Zakath]

we're still makin' noiseGood, it's boring around here if no one makes any sounds... it's just the incessant buzzing that I find so distracting.

Maybe now I can take So-slow off my ignore list... :thumb:

[Zakath]

No, the site only losses credibility if nobody answers lies with the truth.I think the truth got lost in the emotional tirades...

[On Fire]

Maybe now I can take So-slow off my ignore list... :thumb:
Why?

[On Fire]

Here he comes to save the day!

[Zakath]

Why?
Whenever someone who's on the list gets banned, I remove them from the list. Just trying to keep things tidy.

[wickwoman]

we're still makin' noise

Well, shhhhhh then.

[Zakath]

Since So-slow's gone, we could let this thread expire... ;)

[Zakath]

... but it's also nice to see my name in the Active Posts title list... :devil:

[wickwoman]

... but it's also nice to see my name in the Active Posts title list... :devil:

O.K. No problem. Check this one out!

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=709695#post709695

[godrulz]

My archrival and nemesis, sozo, would be missed. I do not believe he is banned. He will be back, I am sure. He should have been rebuked, not banned.

[Zakath]

My archrival and nemesis, sozo, would be missed.
By whom? :shocked:

I do not believe he is banned. Believe it. Go check on the Members List... http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/member.php?u=1265

He will be back, I am sure.Perhaps, perhaps not. Only time will tell.

He should have been rebuked, not banned.Take that up with the management. :thumb:

[wickwoman]

Sure, we'll miss him. You know, like when you have this oozy boil on your leg and it oozes and aches all the time. And then one day it heals. You miss it, sure you do.

[servent101]

Sozo was sincere... I can say this because in real life I had a friend to whom I lent my truck to for a few days - the truck was stolen and he had some of his brother's tools in it, I told him not to worry that it was not his fault that my truck got stolen - that he did not owe me anything for my loss. Not only did my friend not think anything of my loss - he wanted me to pay for his brother's tools that were stolen when my truck was stolen.

Some people just have a warped sense of priority ... my friend was a college graduate and had been invited to learn at the Billy Graham school of evangelism at the time,,, he was very upright and honest, would not hurt a fly... but somehow his wires in his brain figured that I was responsible for his brothers tools, which he himself left out in the truck while the truck was in his posession. Anyways it taught me that even though someone can be completley out of reality they can still be honest and love the Lord.

With Christ's Love

Servent101

[On Fire]

Sure, we'll miss him. You know, like when you have this oozy boil on your leg and it oozes and aches all the time. And then one day it heals. You miss it, sure you do.
:zakath: is not THAT bad.

[Frank Ernest]

My archrival and nemesis, sozo, would be missed. I do not believe he is banned. He will be back, I am sure. He should have been rebuked, not banned.
As I understand it, banning is the ultimate ToL rebuke. I hope :sozo: and :sozo2: will come back also. The rules and application of the ban/rebuke rules come from the

Suckup Alert! this is NOT a drill

HONORABLE WEBMASTER :knight:

End Suckup Alert

[Frank Ernest]

Sure, we'll miss him. You know, like when you have this oozy boil on your leg and it oozes and aches all the time. And then one day it heals. You miss it, sure you do.
Fellowship Week - where LUV abounds! :darwinsm:

[Granite]

Sozo is his own worst enemy; I think anyone with half a clue can see that pretty quickly.

[On Fire]

As I understand it, banning is the ultimate ToL rebuke. I hope :sozo: and :sozo2: will come back also. The rules and application of the ban/rebuke rules come from the

Suckup Alert! this is NOT a drill

HONORABLE WEBMASTER :knight:

End Suckup Alert
:darwinsm:

[wickwoman]

Sozo was sincere... I can say this because in real life I had a friend to whom I lent my truck to for a few days - the truck was stolen and he had some of his brother's tools in it, I told him not to worry that it was not his fault that my truck got stolen - that he did not owe me anything for my loss. Not only did my friend not think anything of my loss - he wanted me to pay for his brother's tools that were stolen when my truck was stolen.

Wow! That is warped. Are ya'll still friends?

[wickwoman]

Fellowship Week - where LUV abounds! :darwinsm:

Sorry, that was the sweetest thing I could think of!

[godrulz]

As I understand it, banning is the ultimate ToL rebuke. I hope :sozo: and :sozo2: will come back also. The rules and application of the ban/rebuke rules come from the

Suckup Alert! this is NOT a drill

HONORABLE WEBMASTER :knight:

End Suckup Alert

What are the rules? If it is not a public rebuke for a public issue, we may need to fear a police state.

[wickwoman]

Dear godrulz:

Sozo begged to be banned. They refused for a while, then finally gave in. No police state. Well, at least not in that one incident.

[servent101]

Wickwoman Wow! That is warped. Are ya'll still friends?

We are... I never paid for his brother's tools, and that did not hurt the friendship. We both forgave each other for the other's percieved shortfall.

It was worth the lesson in human thought, and looking back - I today would of gladly paid the price of the lost tools just to not loose the friendship, though I did not, and again, the freindship did not break up either.

Realizing how warped various people are in this world - we really need a test to check someone's reality ... most people just view the world as they see themselves - this simply is not possible when one starts to listen, remember, contemplate and reason why things are as they are. The world is somewhat of a strange place, and I did not know this till after I was thirty - some people are really really in left field, completely bizzerk. I have started in the past few years to notice what is familiar with these "warped people" - to have some outward appearance - some outward sighn.

With Christ's LOve

Servent101

[wickwoman]

Wickwoman
I have started in the past few years to notice what is familiar with these "warped people" - to have some outward appearance - some outward sighn.


When you figure out what it is let me know so I can steer clear of them. I'm like a freak magnet sometimes.

[Zakath]

What are the rules? If it is not a public rebuke for a public issue, we may need to fear a police state.The "rules" are simply that anyone may be banned at any moderator's discretion. And discussion of reasons for such actions are prohibited...

That's the way it is... :)

[godrulz]

Dear godrulz:

Sozo begged to be banned. They refused for a while, then finally gave in. No police state. Well, at least not in that one incident.

Are you speculating, or do you have proof? The high road would be to voluntarily withdraw and not make the moderators the bad guy. I would not ban someone who begged to be. I would tell them to pull their own plug. It stills seems chicken to do 'suicide by cop'.

[Frank Ernest]

When you figure out what it is let me know so I can steer clear of them. I'm like a freak magnet sometimes.
:darwinsm: Five more hours of Fellowship Week. :shut:

Love ya, Sweetheart! Wanna split a soda?

[wickwoman]

Are you speculating, or do you have proof? The high road would be to voluntarily withdraw and not make the moderators the bad guy. I would not ban someone who begged to be. I would tell them to pull their own plug. It stills seems chicken to do 'suicide by cop'.

Check out this thread. Post #52 is revealing. Later I think he discusses how he asked to be banned but they refused.

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19268&page=4&pp=15

[wickwoman]

Frankie:

Fellowship week is over, honey, so did you have something you wanted to say to me?

[servent101]

WickwomanWhen you figure out what it is let me know so I can steer clear of them. I'm like a freak magnet sometimes.

The literal hell is a good one - if they follow the literal hell doctrine, they are insane, or soon will be - even right in front of our eyes - BCK - went from normal person to believing everyone who is not of his 'opinion' is a god hating belligerent idiot who deserves to be tormented for eternity - they just loose it eventually, they can't try to worship the literal hell and brimstone searing flesh god, and keep their sanity... simply impossible.

The ten or so words Jesus spoke - Peter you are the rock that I will build my church - we do not have the Aramaic - but these words, and we don't even have the original language version, have culminated into volumes of written doctrine on the authority of the church - and yet Jesus Himself, used no authority, nor did Peter, except to reasonably explain to his followers and pray that the Lord God Almighty and the Spirit would kindle an understanding in the Spirit of the person/people spoken too ... no murder, burning at the stake, no making examples of people. This is the second sign - how people try to influence you.

Those are the two major ones, which one can tell by conversation. On a day to day contact - the eye - the larger the eye pupil, the more likely the person likes what they see - good to know if one plays poker, and as well I have found that the further away one walks from other people - the less they like people in general, the more critical they are of other people.

Hope that helps.

With Christ's Love

Servent101

[wickwoman]

Where is BCK anyway. Maybe he's on another "vacation" from TOL. He was a lot nicer after his vacation. But that wore off quickly.

[Frank Ernest]

Frankie:

Fellowship week is over, honey, so did you have something you wanted to say to me?
Love ya, Sweetheart! Wanna split a soda? (I just love it when you get "aggressive.") :cloud9:

[Zakath]

Love ya, Sweetheart! ...I just love it when you get "aggressive." :cloud9:
Sounds like a personal problem to me... have you talked to your wife about this. :chuckle:

[servent101]

WickwomanWhere is BCK anyway. Maybe he's on another "vacation" from TOL. He was a lot nicer after his vacation. But that wore off quickly.

I noticed that too, he has been away... Anyone know where BCK has gone too?

With Christ's Love

Servent101

[Frank Ernest]

Sounds like a personal problem to me... have you talked to your wife about this. :chuckle:
:darwinsm: Yeah, I did. She opines that Wickie might go for it to fill some emotional void in her life. Perhaps, you could donate some professional services. Two birds, one stone thingy.

[Lighthouse]

Two birds, one stone thingy.
Two women after suffering testicular cancer? You may be old, but don't let it ever be said you're not virile.














:eek:

[Frank Ernest]

Two women after suffering testicular cancer? You may be old, but don't let it ever be said you're not virile. :eek:
:darwinsm:

Thaks for the vote of confidence, :Brandon:!

[Delmar]

Two women after suffering testicular cancer? You may be old, but don't let it ever be said you're not virile.


:eek:
Yikes!

[Frank Ernest]

Yikes!
:darwinsm: Is that a vote yay or nay?

[wickwoman]

Dear Frankie:

What does your wife think that "void" is?

[Frank Ernest]

Dear Frankie:

What does your wife think that "void" is?
Dunno. She used the phrase "emotional void." I didn't ask for details.

I would think you would know better than anyone what that might be, what with being attuned with the Universe and all.

[wickwoman]

Dunno. She used the phrase "emotional void." I didn't ask for details.

I would think you would know better than anyone what that might be, what with being attuned with the Universe and all.

Dear Frankie:

Looks like you know very little about me or my philsophies. I've never said anything remotely similar to "attuned with the Universe." Perhaps you have me confused with Shirley MacLean.

An emotional void, is an interesting term. I think it's used often by those who practice "pop psychology" like your wife, for instance. The reason I ask what she means by this is because she probably has no idea what an emotional void is. So, if she does know, I'd love for her to tell me.

I really just don't enjoy empty words and phrases, Frankie. I think when a person uses such a phrase as an insult which I believe that phrase was intended for, they should actually mean what they say or not say it. And, since your wife probably doesn't know what the phrase actually means, she probably didn't mean it.

But, I could certainly be wrong, so feel free to post it here if you figure out what it means.

[Zakath]

:darwinsm: Yeah, I did. She opines that Wickie might go for it to fill some emotional void in her life. Perhaps, you could donate some professional services. Two birds, one stone thingy.
Sorry, I usually refer religionists... incompatible world views can make counselling unecessarily difficult.

[wickwoman]

Sorry, I usually refer religionists... incompatible world views can make counselling unecessarily difficult. :cry:

[Zakath]

:cry:
Don't cry, rumor is that Doug McBurney's going to set up a sidewalk counselling practice, like Lucy van Pelt. ;)

[wickwoman]

Don't cry, rumor is that Doug McBurney's going to set up a sidewalk counselling practice, like Lucy van Pelt. ;)

Actually, I'm still waiting for Frankie or his wife to help me out with this "emotional void." :dunce:

[Zakath]

Actually, I'm still waiting for Frankie or his wife to help me out with this "emotional void." :dunce:
Don't hold your breath... ;)

[Frank Ernest]

Don't hold your breath... ;)
:darwinsm: Please, oh please do!

For as long as you want. :noway:

[Zakath]

:darwinsm: Please, oh please do!

For as long as you want. :noway:
Naw, we don't want her to turn out like you, Frankie. :dead:

[wickwoman]

Naw, we don't want her to turn out like you, Frankie. :dead:

Oh, you do care Zak! :kiss: