View Full Version : Nuttin' Like a Hypocrite....
Nineveh
April 22nd, 2005, 04:38 PM
A new MTV series features Hollywood celebrities praising the developing world's primitive lifestyles as earth-friendly -- despite those poor nations' high infant mortality rates and short life expectancies.
The eco-tourism show, called "Trippin'," premiered on March 28 and was heavily promoted in the runup to Earth Day. The show encourages environmental awareness and lauds traditional tribal lifestyles, which lack running water, electricity and other basic infrastructure.
The MTV series features actress Cameron Diaz and a rotating crew of "her close, personal friends [who] think globally and act globally." They tour developing nations, including Nepal, Bhutan, Tanzania, Honduras and visit remote villages in Chile.
Actress Drew Barrymore, who reportedly earns $15 million a film, told MTV viewers in one episode that after spending time in a primitive, electricity-free Chilean village, "I aspire to be like them more."
Barrymore, apparently enthralled by the lack of a modern sanitary facilities, gleefully bragged, "I took a poo in the woods hunched over like an animal. It was awesome."
The 32-year-old Diaz, who earns a reported $20-million a movie, boasted that the cow-dung slathered walls of a Nepalese village hut were "beautiful" and "inspiring," and she called the primitive practice of "pounding mud" with sticks to construct a building foundation "the coolest thing." There's oh so much more to read... (http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200504\NAT2005 0422a.html)
What can I say but :darwinsm: ?
Lighthouse
April 22nd, 2005, 04:42 PM
:doh:
Berean Todd
April 22nd, 2005, 04:42 PM
What can I say but :darwinsm: ?
Yeah, I'm sure that within the month we'll see her building herself a home out of dung walls and beating mud bricks. Who needs $20m a movie when you can have dung walls, right? :crackup:
Agape4Robin
April 22nd, 2005, 04:44 PM
What can I say but :darwinsm: ?
:mock: Cameron and Drew!
Lovejoy
April 22nd, 2005, 04:53 PM
They could not have picked less convincing or credible representatives, but I suppose that is what works for MTV.
Nineveh
April 22nd, 2005, 05:09 PM
If you guys think they are wacky so far... you should read their thought's on... um... "restroom" use ...
Agape4Robin
April 22nd, 2005, 05:11 PM
If you guys think they are wacky so far... you should read their thought's on... um... "restroom" use ...
I"m sure it's quite charming!
:vomit:
Emo
April 22nd, 2005, 05:47 PM
I think I'll have some :coffee: & get started.
Aahh, nothing like the smell of cow dung walls in the morning!
Lovejoy
April 22nd, 2005, 05:56 PM
I think I'll have some :coffee: & get started.
Aahh, nothing like the smell of cow dung walls in the morning!
Ha! Also, Yuck! I wonder how those two can mistake what is pragmatic (using resources that are available to fill a need) from what is preferable (being able to use almost anything but cow dung to fill that need). Do they really think it is in anyone's best interest to use cow feces to make a wall? Or to randomly deposit human feces, untreated, just outside of your village? Although I suppose that Drew is of the opinion that her (bleep) don't stink. Still, I would like them to attend a couple of births there, see what happens to the average newborn over the first few weeks of life, and then reassess their stand.
Emo
April 22nd, 2005, 06:15 PM
Ha! Also, Yuck! I wonder how those two can mistake what is pragmatic (using resources that are available to fill a need) from what is preferable (being able to use almost anything but cow dung to fill that need). Do they really think it is in anyone's best interest to use cow feces to make a wall? Or to randomly deposit human feces, untreated, just outside of your village? Although I suppose that Drew is of the opinion that her (bleep) don't stink. Still, I would like them to attend a couple of births there, see what happens to the average newborn over the first few weeks of life, and then reassess their stand.
Yep, there's nothing sanitary about poo-poo walls encompassing your home. What's sad is the villagers have very scarce resources & dung seems to be their only option.
If the two ladies wanted to really help, they could easily finance the construction of cheap housing for these people that would actually be beneficial to the natives instead of just defecating in their woods.
Just another reason why I don't watch MTV.
Agape4Robin
April 22nd, 2005, 06:22 PM
M- mostly
T-trash and
V- violence
:chuckle:
Agape4Robin
April 22nd, 2005, 06:57 PM
M- murderers
T- tramps and
V- vermin
:chuckle:
Nineveh
April 22nd, 2005, 07:03 PM
Well the show is called "Trippin' ".
I wonder if any of them bothered to ask the people if they would like to have A/C and hot water piped right into their home...
Zakath
April 23rd, 2005, 05:03 AM
Well the show is called "Trippin' ".I think that puts things into context... :D
... unless "trippin'" doesn't mean what it meant back in the 1960's anymore... :think:
Mr. 5020
April 23rd, 2005, 07:41 AM
I think that puts things into context... :D
... unless "trippin'" doesn't mean what it meant back in the 1960's anymore... :think:
In today's slang, to say someone is "trippin" is saying they're "crazy" or "talking crazy". It no longer has much to do with acid, unless it's specified (ie. "trippin on acid").
PureX
April 23rd, 2005, 08:11 AM
And yet even those rich, spoiled, fools were doing more for the environment and poverty than we are: sitting at a computer, posting on yet another thread that has no purpose other than insulting and humiliating someone else. "Nuttin' like hypocrites", alright.
Mr. 5020
April 23rd, 2005, 08:13 AM
And yet even those rich, spoiled, fools were doing more for the environment and poverty than we are: sitting at a computer, posting on yet another thread that has no purpose other than insulting and humiliating someone else. "Nuttin' like hypocrites", alright.
What were they doing for the environment?
PureX
April 23rd, 2005, 08:23 AM
They're making young people aware of other ways of living - ways that are not so environmentally exploitative. They're helping young people to realize that maybe they don't need all the useless garbage in their lives that they think they need, because they can see that other human beings manage to live without a lot of it. I doubt it means anyone's going to give up their GameBoy, but maybe it will get them to reconsider some of the other junk they buy and throw away.
Poly
April 23rd, 2005, 08:49 AM
They're making young people aware of other ways of living - ways that are not so environmentally exploitative. They're helping young people to realize that maybe they don't need all the useless garbage in their lives that they think they need, because they can see that other human beings manage to live without a lot of it. I doubt it means anyone's going to give up their GameBoy, but maybe it will get them to reconsider some of the other junk they buy and throw away.
buh--low--neeeeee
Lets head back to reality land, shall we?
The MTV crowd will get a kick out of sitting around watching Drew and Cameron make horses backsides of themselves.
PureX
April 23rd, 2005, 09:02 AM
buh--low--neeeeee
Lets head back to reality land, shall we?
The MTV crowd will get a kick out of sitting around watching Drew and Cameron make horses backsides of themselves.No, you will get a kick out of it, because for some reason, you Christians really seem to love to insult and humiliate other people (hense the countless threads around here devoted to this end). But the MTV crowd are young kids. And they see other (relatively) young people exploring the world, and the way other people in the world live. And they see these other people living without a lot of the crap that the consumer culture they grew up in claims people MUST have. And it shows them that maybe they don't need all the material crap that they have in their lives. And maybe they'll begin to be a little more selective about what they consume in the future.
At least it's something. It's something more than sitting at a computer making fun of people you don't even know.
cattyfan
April 23rd, 2005, 09:17 AM
they're flitting around the village on a little weekend lark...next week the erstwhile Charlie's Angels will be back in their diamonds and designer gowns to attend the lastest fund-raiser for the trendy cause-of-the-week. They'll be sipping a fancy martini whiloe regailing their fellow "stars" with amusing tales of the sad little country they invaded for their "show." If they actually gave one whit about the people or the countries they're visiting, they would pick up a hammer and start helping to build something more substantial thatn a dung-laden hut.
Notice: I didn't say they should give their millions...The money wouldn't mean as much in a culture as primitive as is described.
If it was conservative minded celebrities involved in this nonsense, we'd all be hearing from Cameron & Drew what "hypocrites" they are for not doing something to help.
These two spoiled little are just finding ways to entertain themselves and stay in the spotlight. They're vapid, self-absorbed, children...and they're actresses: they only say something of substance when someone scripts the words for them...and even then, their emotions aren't genuine.
They probably think the villagers are just extras.
PureX
April 23rd, 2005, 09:27 AM
they're flitting around the village on a little weekend lark...next week the erstwhile Charlie's Angels will be back in their diamonds and designer gowns to attend the lastest fund-raiser for the trendy cause-of-the-week. They'll be sipping a fancy martini whiloe regailing their fellow "stars" with amusing tales of the sad little country they invaded for their "show." And you'll still be here, insulting and humiliating strangers to puff up your own ego?
What can YOU do that would help their cause? How can YOU live less environmentally exploitatively? How can YOU help young people to see through the tidal wave of consumer advertising and understand that they don't really need all that crap they're being told they need?
Poly
April 23rd, 2005, 09:28 AM
At least it's something. It's something more than sitting at a computer making fun of people you don't even know.
It's a big fat waste of their precious rich, fame seeking time. They are hypocrites and deserved to be exposed for it.
And sitting at my computer, watching you be exposed for the nutjob and the biggest hypocrite to ever come across TOL is way more beneficial than pretending to be concerned over a cause, patting myself on the back a little for my great duty, and then going back to my luxurious lifestyle.
cattyfan
April 23rd, 2005, 09:32 AM
And you'll still be here, insulting and humiliating strangers to puff up your own ego?
I'm not claiming to be "helping the environment" or "being a global friend" or any of the other nonsense they are claiming when what they're really doing is helping their own career.
I am not "insulting or humiliating" Diaz & Barrymore. I suspect it would be almost impossible to do so, given their own antics.
TOL is not my way assisting charities or giving my time. TOL is my entertainment. When I do things for others, whether they're individuals or communities, I don't feel the need to put it in a headline or bring a cameraman. I don't even write it up as a news story and put it on the radio (which is what I do for a living.) Instead I just quietly give whatever I can, and praise God that I have the means and resources to do so.
PureX
April 23rd, 2005, 09:33 AM
I think you're starting to choke on your own bile. I'll leave you alone before you hurt yourself.
cattyfan
April 23rd, 2005, 09:35 AM
What can YOU do that would help their cause? How can YOU live less environmentally exploitatively? How can YOU help young people to see through the tidal wave of consumer advertising and understand that they don't really need all that crap they're being told they need?
Apparently you think it's more productive to teach the youngsters that crap is better used as housing material.
You know nothing about how I live, what I promote, and what I teach the children with whom I come in contact. But I will assure you of this: the projects I'm involved in won't be short term for me...whereas those two will lose interest and next week will be doing something else for their own entertainment.
PureX
April 23rd, 2005, 09:37 AM
I don't feel the need to put it in a headline or bring a cameraman. I don't even write it up as a news story and put it on the radio (which is what I do for a living.) Instead I just quietly give whatever I can, and praise God that I have the means and resources to do so.You didn't grow up with cameras in your face, whether you wanted them there or not. These folks are trying to do something positive with what God gave them. It may not be much, and it may be a bit silly, but it's certainly no more silly or hypocritical than sitting at a computer and making fun of them for what they are doing. That's all I'm saying.
PureX
April 23rd, 2005, 09:40 AM
You know nothing about how I live, what I promote, and what I teach the children with whom I come in contact. But I will assure you of this: the projects I'm involved in won't be short term for me...whereas those two will lose interest and next week will be doing something else for their own entertainment.You're reacting to posts that were not directed at you. Relax.
cattyfan
April 23rd, 2005, 09:41 AM
And you'll still be here, insulting and humiliating strangers to puff up your own ego?
And may I point out, you're at your computer as well...do you feel you're being productive and helpful, Mr. Self-righteous?
PureX
April 23rd, 2005, 09:47 AM
And may I point out, you're at your computer as well...do you feel you're being productive and helpful, Mr. Self-righteous?Yes. I'm being productive and helpful to YOU and Poly.
And the next time I see another thread designed to inspire more of these pointless insults againt strangers, I'm going to do the same thing.
Turbo
April 23rd, 2005, 09:51 AM
Does a Barrymore poop in the woods?
Barrymore... gleefully bragged, "I took a poo in the woods hunched over like an animal. It was awesome."
I guess so! :D
PureX
April 23rd, 2005, 09:56 AM
*smile* But what if no one gets it on film?
Berean Todd
April 23rd, 2005, 06:19 PM
And yet even those rich, spoiled, fools were doing more for the environment and poverty than we are: sitting at a computer, posting on yet another thread that has no purpose other than insulting and humiliating someone else. "Nuttin' like hypocrites", alright.
Yeah, with their 5 cars and giant, gas eating, electricity sucking homes, and their private planes eating countless fuel as they fly all over the world ... these idiots consume more fuel and natural resources in a month than the vast majority of us do in a year and yet they continually call us out, and talk all holier than thou. Talk about hypocrites, these idiotic, Hollywood schmucks are the definition of it!!
Berean Todd
April 23rd, 2005, 06:23 PM
They're making young people aware of other ways of living - ways that are not so environmentally exploitative. They're helping young people to realize that maybe they don't need all the useless garbage in their lives that they think they need, because they can see that other human beings manage to live without a lot of it. I doubt it means anyone's going to give up their GameBoy, but maybe it will get them to reconsider some of the other junk they buy and throw away.
Wooooooeeeeee, love those cow-dung walls, so when are you gonna be slathering your walls in cow dung and switch to a career of making mud bricks again Pure X? I mean you are going to do this now that you have been enlightened by these wonderful, caring people at MTV, right?
Agape4Robin
April 23rd, 2005, 06:26 PM
Wooooooeeeeee, love those cow-dung walls, so when are you gonna be slathering your walls in cow dung and switch to a career of making mud bricks again Pure X? I mean you are going to do this now that you have been enlightened by these wonderful, caring people at MTV, right?
:mock: PureX
Lovejoy
April 23rd, 2005, 06:34 PM
And yet even those rich, spoiled, fools were doing more for the environment and poverty than we are: sitting at a computer, posting on yet another thread that has no purpose other than insulting and humiliating someone else. "Nuttin' like hypocrites", alright.
In what fashion? Acknowledging that people live in a different fashion accomplishes nothing. What kids will see is the enormous number of resources that Drew and company have at their disposal and seek to emulate that. Dear God, that has been the backbone of MTV broadcasts for years (ie "Cribs). There are kids that do not subscribe to that, but they are the kids at my church that voluntarily go to Mexico City and Papua New Guinea to build medical clinics and homes. But most of them don't watch MTV. Personally, I recycle, walk to work, live in a two-bedroom house, and volunteer for clean-up crews. But all that is nonsense in the face of the work I do for God.
cattyfan
April 23rd, 2005, 07:35 PM
Yeah, with their 5 cars and giant, gas eating, electricity sucking homes, and their private planes eating countless fuel as they fly all over the world ... these idiots consume more fuel and natural resources in a month than the vast majority of us do in a year and yet they continually call us out, and talk all holier than thou. Talk about hypocrites, these idiotic, Hollywood schmucks are the definition of it!!
Gee, maybe they could conserve energy if they didn't chronicle every move they make with cameras...
cattyfan
April 23rd, 2005, 07:37 PM
Yes. I'm being productive and helpful to YOU and Poly.
And the next time I see another thread designed to inspire more of these pointless insults againt strangers, I'm going to do the same thing.
:darwinsm: And you say WE'RE puffed up with ego!!!
Mr. 5020
April 23rd, 2005, 09:24 PM
That's 2 points for Todd! Well done, sir!
Lucky
April 23rd, 2005, 09:35 PM
"I took a poo in the woods"
Watch out for ET out there. :freak:
wholearmor
April 23rd, 2005, 10:07 PM
They're making young people aware of other ways of living - ways that are not so environmentally exploitative. They're helping young people to realize that maybe they don't need all the useless garbage in their lives that they think they need, because they can see that other human beings manage to live without a lot of it. I doubt it means anyone's going to give up their GameBoy, but maybe it will get them to reconsider some of the other junk they buy and throw away.
Negative Reps coming your way.
I'm pretty sure somewhere close behind this "there's too much materialism in the world" show is one called, "Check Out My Crib" or whatever those types of shows are named showing off someone's lavish home. That's what the young folks watching MTV will actually be impressed by. Not the cow dung homes.
Mr. 5020
April 23rd, 2005, 10:08 PM
Negative Reps coming your way. I'll second that motion.
I'm pretty sure somewhere close behind this "there's too much materialism in the world" show is one called, "Check Out My Crib" or whatever those types of shows are named showing off someone's lavish home. That's what the young folks watching MTV will actually be impressed by. Not the cow dung homes.
It's called 'Cribs'.
Not that it was the point of your post..... :o
:spam:
wholearmor
April 23rd, 2005, 10:11 PM
Wooooooeeeeee, love those cow-dung walls, so when are you gonna be slathering your walls in cow dung and switch to a career of making mud bricks again Pure X? I mean you are going to do this now that you have been enlightened by these wonderful, caring people at MTV, right?
Spread some PureX crement on those walls!
wholearmor
April 23rd, 2005, 10:14 PM
I'll second that motion.
It's called 'Cribs'.
Not that it was the point of your post..... :o
:spam:
I knew that! :D
Mr. 5020
April 23rd, 2005, 10:18 PM
I knew that! :D
Right, right...because you're so hip and cool. :darwinsm:
PureX
April 23rd, 2005, 11:33 PM
Yeah, with their 5 cars and giant, gas eating, electricity sucking homes, and their private planes eating countless fuel as they fly all over the world ... these idiots consume more fuel and natural resources in a month than the vast majority of us do in a year and yet they continually call us out, and talk all holier than thou. Talk about hypocrites, these idiotic, Hollywood schmucks are the definition of it!!Yeah, I guess Bill O'Reilly explained it all to you.
Agape4Robin
April 23rd, 2005, 11:36 PM
Yeah, I guess Bill O'Reilly explained it all to you.
Hey!!! Don't be down on Bil!!!!! :p
wholearmor
April 23rd, 2005, 11:36 PM
Right, right...because you're so hip and cool. :darwinsm:
It shows, huh? :chuckle:
Agape4Robin
April 23rd, 2005, 11:39 PM
It shows, huh? :chuckle:
Oh, yeah...... :chuckle:
Berean Todd
April 23rd, 2005, 11:56 PM
Yeah, I guess Bill O'Reilly explained it all to you.
Yeah, nice come back and solid refutation of my point there ... oh, nevermind you have nothing to say because there is no defense for these idiots, move along now, thank you!
wholearmor
April 23rd, 2005, 11:59 PM
Yeah, nice come back and solid refutation of my point there ... oh, nevermind you have nothing to say because there is no defense for these idiots, move along now, thank you!
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Berean Todd again.
What's up with that? :sozo2:
PureX
April 24th, 2005, 12:01 AM
I have nothing to say to you about your own idiotic prejudices. You wanna wallow in that nonsense you go ahead. For some reason you Christians just can't live without constantly bad-mouthing everyone else. I'm sick of you, today.
Agape4Robin
April 24th, 2005, 12:03 AM
I have nothing to say to you about your own idiotic prejudices. You wanna wallow in that nonsense you go ahead. For some reason you Christians just can't live without constantly bad-mouthing everyone else. I'm sick of you, today.
Someone's cranky......... :noid:
Berean Todd
April 24th, 2005, 12:41 AM
I have nothing to say to you about your own idiotic prejudices. You wanna wallow in that nonsense you go ahead. For some reason you Christians just can't live without constantly bad-mouthing everyone else. I'm sick of you, today.
translation of hateful atheist/agnostic to English:
I have nothing to say because once again it's proven that we are exactly what we claim everyone else is - hateful, ignorant, hypocritical, holier-than-thou idiots. When faced with facts I hide and run. Leave me alone please before I cry.
Oh, there you go PureX, now I understand what you are saying, all I needed was this neat little translator to help me out ...
wholearmor
April 24th, 2005, 12:46 AM
I have nothing to say to you about your own idiotic prejudices. You wanna wallow in that nonsense you go ahead. For some reason you Christians just can't live without constantly bad-mouthing everyone else. I'm sick of you, today.
Constantly bad-mouthing everyone else. PureX, I've told you a million times to stop exaggerating.
Frank Ernest
April 24th, 2005, 05:53 AM
translation of hateful atheist/agnostic to English:
I have nothing to say because once again it's proven that we are exactly what we claim everyone else is - hateful, ignorant, hypocritical, holier-than-thou idiots. When faced with facts I hide and run. Leave me alone please before I cry.
Oh, there you go PureX, now I understand what you are saying, all I needed was this neat little translator to help me out ...
Works for me! :darwinsm:
Have some points. :up:
Mr. 5020
April 24th, 2005, 06:15 AM
What's up with that? :sozo2:
taken care of
cattyfan
April 24th, 2005, 06:28 PM
Yeah, I guess Bill O'Reilly explained it all to you.
I'm more likely to trust Bill O'Reilly than MTV or Oprah (the last venue Ms. Diaz used to shoot her mouth off.) But if you prefer to get your views from a music channel and an actress/t.v. talk show host, I guess that's up to you.
Free-Agent Smith
April 24th, 2005, 10:10 PM
I was looking around and I found that the average documentart costs about $300,000 for 1 hour.
What I don't understand is this.....
Why isn't Hollywood and the celebrities in many of the paid infomercials or documentaries, helping these people out? They can offer far more assistance than I. I'm a middle-class man with a same budget while they earm millions for each film, flop or success. They can afford the resources to help some of these people learn how to put together proper septic systems such as leech beds or how to use base air power with tools such as windmills.
cattyfan
April 24th, 2005, 10:56 PM
I was looking around and I found that the average documentart costs about $300,000 for 1 hour.
great typo! Cameron Diaz in a third world country demonstrating the joys of the dung hut: she's a documentart
Free-Agent Smith
April 25th, 2005, 02:43 AM
Typo? Oh yeah :)
Nineveh
April 25th, 2005, 09:55 AM
:ha: documentart....
or how about documentard.
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