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Freak
April 27th, 2005, 08:38 PM
:madmad: Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
Supporters of the sodomites & baby killing are unrighteous and will not be inheriting the Kingdom of Heaven.
Do you support baby killing or sodomy? If you do then prepare yourself for hell.
BillyBob
April 27th, 2005, 08:40 PM
How do you feel about killing sodomites?
Freak
April 27th, 2005, 08:43 PM
How do you feel about killing sodomites? Not interested in "killing." God will judge those bent on sodomy. He will judge them by sending them to eternal hell.
Freak
April 27th, 2005, 08:45 PM
The good news for sodomites and baby killers and those who support them--Holy God is interested in rescuing you from your evil. He desires a loving relationship with YOU! Renounce your sins and enter a personal relationship with Jesus!
BillyBob
April 27th, 2005, 08:56 PM
How do you feel about murderous child molesters who refuse to repent and instead continue molesting and murdering? What should we do with them?
Freak
April 27th, 2005, 08:58 PM
How do you feel about murderous child molesters who refuse to repent and instead continue molesting and murdering? What should we do with them? It doesn't really matter what I believe...God has spoken... He is not silent...
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
God will not be mocked. He will judge and will ensure they enter eternal hell.
Justin (Wiccan)
April 27th, 2005, 08:58 PM
To place things into your terminology, after a person dies, they are no longer a "sodomite," a "homosexual," or any other thing that you disagree with.
Yet we all walk by the light we have. I will pray that you may find a better light.
Justin
Freak
April 27th, 2005, 09:00 PM
To place things into your terminology, after a person dies, they are no longer a "sodomite," a "homosexual," or any other thing that you disagree with.
Yet we all walk by the light we have. I will pray that you may find a better light.
Justin
Even Wiccans will go to hell!!!
Justin (Wiccan)
April 27th, 2005, 09:02 PM
Even Wiccans will go to hell!!!
We shall see. In the meantime, I will pray for you.
Justin
Freak
April 27th, 2005, 09:07 PM
We shall see. In the meantime, I will pray for you.
Justin
Prayer, you pray? Pray to whom? Your goddess? :crackup:
BillyBob
April 27th, 2005, 09:09 PM
It doesn't really matter what I believe...God has spoken... He is not silent...
But wait a minute, what you just wrote is based on yoru beliefs so if it doesn't matter what you believe, why post it??? :think:
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
God will not be mocked. He will judge and will ensure they enter eternal hell.
Ah, more about what you believe. I thought it didn't matter??
Anyway, inheriting God's kingdom is something that God will sort out, in the meantime, what do you suggest we do with murderous child molesters?
SOTK
April 27th, 2005, 09:11 PM
We shall see. In the meantime, I will pray for you.
Justin
:noway:
I didn't realize that prayer was in a wiccan's vocabulary! :shocked:
Freak
April 27th, 2005, 09:12 PM
But wait a minute, what you just wrote is based on yoru beliefs so if it doesn't matter what you believe, why post it??? Actually, it is God's view.
Anyway, inheriting God's kingdom is something that God will sort out, in the meantime, :kookoo: Let's read this again, shall we...
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
Now tell me who will not inherit the Kingdon of Heaven?
what do you suggest we do with murderous child molesters? God will send them to hell!
Justin (Wiccan)
April 27th, 2005, 09:12 PM
Prayer, you pray? Pray to whom? Your goddess? :crackup:
Indeed, yes.
Justin
Justin (Wiccan)
April 27th, 2005, 09:13 PM
:noway:
I didn't realize that prayer was in a wiccan's vocabulary! :shocked:
Absolutely. ;)
Justin
Freak
April 27th, 2005, 09:16 PM
Indeed, yes.
Justin
What will you tell this "goddess?" :dizzy:
Mr. 5020
April 27th, 2005, 09:18 PM
God will send them to hell!
He's talking about here/now on earth. Freak, you act so heavenly minded that you are indeed of no earthly good.
Justin (Wiccan)
April 27th, 2005, 09:21 PM
What will you tell this "goddess?" :dizzy:
Do you "tell" God what to do?
And as a bit of information to you: Wiccans worship both a God and a Goddess. I could explain more ... but somehow, I feel that this is all you can bear right now.
Justin
Freak
April 27th, 2005, 09:26 PM
Do you "tell" God what to do?
And as a bit of information to you: Wiccans worship both a God and a Goddess. Justin God is a jealous God and expects those who love Him to worship Him alone.
Jesus once said:
Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you,Satan! For it is written, "You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve."'
No room for a goddess.
Delmar
April 27th, 2005, 09:28 PM
God is a jealous God and expects those who love Him to worship Him alone.
Jesus once said:
Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you,Satan! For it is written, "You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve."'
No room for a goddess.Sounds right
Justin (Wiccan)
April 27th, 2005, 09:37 PM
God is a jealous God and expects those who love Him to worship Him alone.
Jesus once said:
Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you,Satan! For it is written, "You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve."'
No room for a goddess.
As deardelmar said, that sounds like an accurate quote. Too bad the anonymous author of the book attributed to Matthew never met Jesus personally.
Justin
Freak
April 27th, 2005, 09:40 PM
As deardelmar said, that sounds like an accurate quote. Too bad the anonymous author of the book attributed to Matthew never met Jesus personally.
Justin
Get over "I'm an intellectual and know little about the Bible" attitude and repent of worshipping the goddess (a demon). Why did you leave the Christian faith?
SOTK
April 27th, 2005, 09:40 PM
As deardelmar said, that sounds like an accurate quote. Too bad the anonymous author of the book attributed to Matthew never met Jesus personally.
Justin
Trying to get off topic are we?
Justin (Wiccan)
April 27th, 2005, 09:45 PM
As I said in the other thread, I'm headed to bed.
Get over "I'm an intellectual and know little about the Bible" attitude and repent of worshipping the goddess (a demon). Why did you leave the Christian faith?
Trying to get off topic are we?
I'll respond to these tomorrow.
Justin
Freak
April 27th, 2005, 09:49 PM
As I said in the other thread, I'm headed to bed.
I'll respond to these tomorrow.
Justin Looking forward to it. :wave:
Delmar
April 27th, 2005, 09:52 PM
Allow me do a little edditing fom post#20
No room for a goddess.Sounds right... as in, I believe he gleaned the truth from the verses he quoted!
Freak
April 27th, 2005, 09:54 PM
Allow me do a little edditing fom post#20
Sounds right... as in, I believe he gleaned the truth from the verses he quoted! God's Word has spoken to his heart, this I know. It will not return back void! :up:
Knight
April 27th, 2005, 10:35 PM
God is a jealous God and expects those who love Him to worship Him alone.
Jesus once said:
Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you,Satan! For it is written, "You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve."'
No room for a goddess.Indeed... and for this... I plan to give Freak some good rep!
SOTK
April 27th, 2005, 10:44 PM
Indeed... and for this... I plan to give Freak some good rep!
You know, I agree! Freak summed it up pretty nicely. :up:
Holly
April 27th, 2005, 11:15 PM
Speaking of sodomy (if we must), did any of you read that according to Secret Service records, the homosexual prostitute Jim Guckert d.b.a. Jeff Gannon visited the White House 196 times over a two year period, often signing in but not signing back out, etc.? Sort of makes you wonder who's his "daddy".
Emo
April 27th, 2005, 11:21 PM
Yep, I'll admit it, I gave Freak pos. rep points as well for that post, but don't tell anyone.
Justin (Wiccan)
April 28th, 2005, 06:02 AM
Get over "I'm an intellectual and know little about the Bible" attitude and repent of worshipping the goddess (a demon).
And leave the truth for your preferred lie?
Why did you leave the Christian faith?
Because, Friend ... your "Christian faith" is the work of man. In your terminology, just as God was not in the fire, the earthquake, or the rushing wind, God is not in your version of the "Christian faith."
Justin
BillyBob
April 28th, 2005, 06:16 AM
God will send them to hell!
And what are we to do with them while we are waiting for God to send them to Hell?
BillyBob
April 28th, 2005, 06:18 AM
Speaking of sodomy (if we must), did any of you read that according to Secret Service records, the homosexual prostitute Jim Guckert d.b.a. Jeff Gannon visited the White House 196 times over a two year period, often signing in but not signing back out, etc.? Sort of makes you wonder who's his "daddy".
How many times did Monica visit?
Freak
April 28th, 2005, 06:22 AM
Speaking of sodomy (if we must), did any of you read that according to Secret Service records, the homosexual prostitute Jim Guckert d.b.a. Jeff Gannon visited the White House 196 times over a two year period, often signing in but not signing back out, etc.? Sort of makes you wonder who's his "daddy". :vomit: :think:
Freak
April 28th, 2005, 06:23 AM
Because, Friend ... your "Christian faith" is the work of man. In your terminology, just as God was not in the fire, the earthquake, or the rushing wind, God is not in your version of the "Christian faith."
Justin Why did you believe, at one time?
BillyBob
April 28th, 2005, 06:29 AM
If God is going to send Child Molesters to Hell, I'm sure He won't mind if we help them get there a little sooner.
Freak
April 28th, 2005, 06:38 AM
If God is going to send Child Molesters to Hell, I'm sure He won't mind if we help them get there a little sooner. I can't stop you from killing someone. The facts remain: they will be judged and will go to eternal hell.
BillyBob
April 28th, 2005, 06:44 AM
I can't stop you from killing someone. The facts remain: they will be judged and will go to eternal hell.
That's not the question. The question is: What are we to do with child molesters? If they are going to Hell, why not give them the Express Trip there?
Freak
April 28th, 2005, 06:47 AM
That's not the question. The question is: What are we to do with child molesters? If they are going to Hell, why not give them the Express Trip there? They are already on the "express trip" to hell.
BillyBob
April 28th, 2005, 07:02 AM
How do you figure? Our judicial system locks them up for a few years and then turns them loose on the public to molest and murder some more innocent children. Don't you think it would be better if they were executed?
Frank Ernest
April 28th, 2005, 07:15 AM
It's easier for the anti-punishment folks to leave it to their fuzzy nebulosity, some god, rather than to take care of business as the Living God says to do.
Freak
April 28th, 2005, 07:18 AM
How do you figure? Look, I've already answered your questions. In fact, I created a thread on the "death penalty." I'm quite vocal in what I believe. Not interested in having anyone "killed." You disagree. That's your right to believe that.
All child molestors, rapists, satanists, buddhists, hindus, mormons, sodomites, etc will be entering a place of torment for eternity.
Dave Miller
April 28th, 2005, 07:30 AM
Do you "tell" God what to do?
And as a bit of information to you: Wiccans worship both a God and a Goddess. I could explain more ... but somehow, I feel that this is all you can bear right now.
Justin
God has both female and male nature, as God is All in All, and as God made Humanity in God's image,
before humanity was seperated into incomplete beings (male and female,) as a result of Adam's (human's)
Sin of not finding sufficiency in relationship with God. This was the original sin, asking for a helpmate,
asking to become a divided being.
And God granted the wish of htis prayer, and all that followed as a result, followed. Divided against
ourselves and against God.
Dave
Dave Miller
April 28th, 2005, 07:32 AM
How many times did Monica visit?
Ol' Bill Clinton was alot of things, but gay he was not. Not that there's anything wrong
with that.
the Sibbie
April 28th, 2005, 07:32 AM
How do you figure? Our judicial system locks them up for a few years and then turns them loose on the public to molest and murder some more innocent children. Don't you think it would be better if they were executed?Not to mention man should have enough fear of authority to consider the consequences before making a career of molesting childern. (And I'm not talking about the fear of being locked up for a few years. How is a few years of prison or hard labor a "terror to evil"? The government should be "God's minister, an avenger." If God is going to give them the Ultimate Everlasting Death Sentence, then execution is a highly appropriate way for the government to accurately represent God as His minister. Let law be their "tutor" to bring them to Christ. (See Galations 3:24. )
Justin (Wiccan)
April 28th, 2005, 07:42 AM
God has both female and male nature, as God is All in All, and as God made Humanity in God's image,
before humanity was seperated into incomplete beings (male and female,) as a result of Adam's (human's)
Sin of not finding sufficiency in relationship with God. This was the original sin, asking for a helpmate,
asking to become a divided being.
And God granted the wish of htis prayer, and all that followed as a result, followed. Divided against
ourselves and against God.
Dave
The word is "a help meet for him," not "a helpmate for him." According to your scripture, Adam didn't ask for Eve--Eve was God's idea.
So do you state that God created "sin," or that sin was God's idea?
Justin
the Sibbie
April 28th, 2005, 07:57 AM
God has both female and male nature, as God is All in All, and as God made Humanity in God's image,
before humanity was seperated into incomplete beings (male and female,) as a result of Adam's (human's)
Sin of not finding sufficiency in relationship with God. This was the original sin, asking for a helpmate,
asking to become a divided being.
And God granted the wish of htis prayer, and all that followed as a result, followed. Divided against
ourselves and against God.
DaveWow, and I thought people who think sex was the first sin are :kookoo:!
Agape4Robin
April 28th, 2005, 08:01 AM
God has both female and male nature, as God is All in All, and as God made Humanity in God's image,
before humanity was seperated into incomplete beings (male and female,) as a result of Adam's (human's)
Sin of not finding sufficiency in relationship with God. This was the original sin, asking for a helpmate,
asking to become a divided being.
And God granted the wish of htis prayer, and all that followed as a result, followed. Divided against
ourselves and against God.
Dave
Where do you get your theology? :confused:
Your theology is so full of inaccuracies, I don't know where to start! :shut:
First, God has said that His likeness is neither male nor female. Not like we know it. We have a corrupted idea of what it means to be male and female. Being created in God's image means that we have HIs intangible traits such as love, compassion, forgiveness, etc. God's character, not visual likeness.
Second. Are you kidding me? :doh: Original sin is nothing like what you said! Adam did not ask for a helpmate, God saw that in the animal kingdom there was none suitable for Adam. So He created Eve.
The original sin was disobedience and unrepentance. Eve disobeyed God and Adam did too by eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and then both of them tried to cover it up by blaming satan (Eve) and blaming the woman (Adam).
Perhaps if they both would have just said, "Lord, we disobeyed you. I am to blame and I am wholly sorry for this sin, please Lord, forgive us." Maybe things could have been different? :think:
Servo
April 28th, 2005, 08:21 AM
All child molestors, rapists, satanists, buddhists, hindus, mormons, sodomites, etc will be entering a place of torment for eternity.
I agree Freak!
God will send these people to Hell for all eternity!
God also appointed a minister of justice to put child molesters and rapists to death.
You are for God sending them to hell but opposed to the death penalty? Why Freak?
Are you NICER than God?
Oh yeah, the NEW covenant. God used to be interested in justice in the OT, but then after some counseling, He got better. Maybe after a few more counseling sessions, God will realize that Hell is an awful place and stop sending people there.
Servo
April 28th, 2005, 08:24 AM
It doesn't really matter what I believe...God has spoken... He is not silent...
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
God will not be mocked. He will judge and will ensure they enter eternal hell.
I'll give you some positive rep for this post though.
Zakath
April 28th, 2005, 08:47 AM
Ol' Bill Clinton was alot of things, but gay he was not. Not that there's anything wrong
with that.
:ha:
A Seinfeld allusion... I caught that !!!! :)
Agape4Robin
April 28th, 2005, 08:49 AM
I agree Freak!
God will send these people to Hell for all eternity!
God also appointed a minister of justice to put child molesters and rapists to death.
You are for God sending them to hell but opposed to the death penalty? Why Freak?
Are you NICER than God?
Oh yeah, the NEW covenant. God used to be interested in justice in the OT, but then after some counseling, He got better. Maybe after a few more counseling sessions, God will realize that Hell is an awful place and stop sending people there.
:chuckle:
Zakath
April 28th, 2005, 09:02 AM
...Oh yeah, the NEW covenant. God used to be interested in justice in the OT, but then after some counseling, He got better. Maybe after a few more counseling sessions, God will realize that Hell is an awful place and stop sending people there.Yeah, we're still working on that with him... but for an allegedly immutable being he seems to change his mind alot... ;)
Servo
April 28th, 2005, 09:05 AM
Yeah, we're still working on that with him... but for an allegedly immutable being he seems to change his mind alot... ;)
God can change His mind, but His righteous character does not change.
Granite
April 28th, 2005, 09:06 AM
God can change His mind, but His righteous character does not change.
:darwinsm:
He's a character, all right, I'll give you that.
Mr Jack
April 28th, 2005, 09:12 AM
Do you support baby killing or sodomy? If you do then prepare yourself for hell.
That's Ok, it seems like all the cool people go to hell anyway.
Servo
April 28th, 2005, 09:16 AM
He's a character, all right, I'll give you that.
But you don't KNOW Him.
Caledvwlch
April 28th, 2005, 09:19 AM
That's Ok, it seems like all the cool people go to hell anyway.
:chuckle:
You're right. From the looks of things around these parts, if that's heaven, count me out.
Holly
April 28th, 2005, 09:23 AM
How many times did Monica visit?
Relatively few in comparison to Guckert/Gannon, actually. But surely you don't think I would defend Clinton's adultery? I think adultery is a terrible thing and I never make excuses for it, as you did on the "More Republican Hypocrisy" thread. But please, since the thread is about sodomy, let's return to the subject. Guckert/Gannon was displaying nude photos of himself, posed (as Maureen Dowd so delicately put it) "like the Barberini faun", and offering his services for $1200 per weekend, on a gay "escort service" website during the period in question. He also described himself as a "hot military stud" and falsely claimed to be an ex-marine. I guess he know what appeals to his clientele. Do you think he charges extra to dress up as a Saudi prince? :bannana:
I wonder what they meant by the last line in this news report:
"In March, 2003, Guckert left the White House twice on days he had never checked in with the Secret Service. Over the next 22 months, Guckert failed to check out with the Service on fourteen days. On several of these visits, Guckert either entered or exited by a different entry/exit point than his usual one."
Servo
April 28th, 2005, 09:30 AM
:chuckle:
You're right. From the looks of things around these parts, if that's heaven, count me out.
Right, if God allowed people from Hell to come to Heaven, Heaven would become Hell.
Dave Miller
April 28th, 2005, 10:27 AM
Where do you get your theology? :confused:
Your theology is so full of inaccuracies, I don't know where to start! :shut:
First, God has said that His likeness is neither male nor female. Not like we know it. We have a corrupted idea of what it means to be male and female. Being created in God's image means that we have HIs intangible traits such as love, compassion, forgiveness, etc. God's character, not visual likeness.
I think that's exactly waht I said, or at least tried to say...
Second. Are you kidding me? :doh: Original sin is nothing like what you said! Adam did not ask for a helpmate, God saw that in the animal kingdom there was none suitable for Adam. So He created Eve.
The original sin was disobedience and unrepentance. Eve disobeyed God and Adam did too by eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and then both of them tried to cover it up by blaming satan (Eve) and blaming the woman (Adam).
Perhaps if they both would have just said, "Lord, we disobeyed you. I am to blame and I am wholly sorry for this sin, please Lord, forgive us." Maybe things could have been different? :think:
Its called feminist theology, you'd like it if you gave it a chance. The apple thing was
a consequence of the seperation.
Dave
Granite
April 28th, 2005, 10:29 AM
But you don't KNOW Him.
And if your version of him is anywhere near accurate, I don't want to.
Dave Miller
April 28th, 2005, 10:32 AM
The word is "a help meet for him," not "a helpmate for him." According to your scripture, Adam didn't ask for Eve--Eve was God's idea.
So do you state that God created "sin," or that sin was God's idea?
Justin
God observed the human's inadequacy, whether it was in response to prayer, or maybe
the human was just moping around, acting all lonely and moody who knows? The human's
situation was not sufficient, even though the human was whole and in communal relationship
with God.
The human didn't need a woman to cook dinner, all the human had to do was reach out and
pluck a fruit.
Servo
April 28th, 2005, 10:32 AM
And if your version of him is anywhere near accurate, I don't want to.
I don't have a version. But I read the New King James version.
Justin (Wiccan)
April 28th, 2005, 10:35 AM
God observed the human's inadequacy, whether it was in response to prayer, or maybe
the human was just moping around, acting all lonely and moody who knows? The human's
situation was not sufficient, even though the human was whole and in communal relationship
with God.
Yet according to the text, it was God, not man, who said "It is not good for man to be alone."
The human didn't need a woman to cook dinner, all the human had to do was reach out and
pluck a fruit.
According to my wife, I'd still need her around in a situation like that. She think's I'm just about helpless in a kitchen without specific, exact instructions. ;)
Justin
Nineveh
April 28th, 2005, 10:36 AM
Supporters of the sodomites & baby killing are unrighteous and will not be inheriting the Kingdom of Heaven.
Unfortunatly, we are finding them in the pulpit :(
When the salt loses it's saltiness...
Justin (Wiccan)
April 28th, 2005, 10:38 AM
Unfortunatly, we are finding them in the pulpit :(
When the salt loses it's saltiness...
I think you'll find that the increasing inclusion of homosexuals in the Christian community is a symptom, not a cause.
Justin
Caille
April 28th, 2005, 10:41 AM
:madmad: Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
Supporters of the sodomites & baby killing are unrighteous and will not be inheriting the Kingdom of Heaven.
Do you support baby killing or sodomy? If you do then prepare yourself for hell.
Why single out sodomy and baby killing? Is any man righteous ?
Romans3
[9] What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
[10] As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Granite
April 28th, 2005, 10:56 AM
I don't have a version. But I read the New King James version.
Don't be dense on purpose, you pull it off by accident quite nicely.
Nineveh
April 28th, 2005, 11:01 AM
I think you'll find that the increasing inclusion of homosexuals in the Christian community is a symptom, not a cause.
Justin
True. And unfortuantly it's getting worse. " For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine."
On another thread about a gal who's abortion was botched and the baby was born alive, it took her "weeks of counseling" before she decided to abort. I can only wonder if it was a "pastor" that counseled her :(
Servo
April 28th, 2005, 11:10 AM
Don't be dense on purpose, you pull it off by accident quite nicely.
Couldn't come up with anything clever huh?
Freak
April 28th, 2005, 03:43 PM
Why single out sodomy and baby killing? Is any man righteous ?
I quoted a portion of Scripture that was all inclusive.
See verse 9, "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God?"
Anyone not justified is unrighteous, my friend.
Freak
April 28th, 2005, 03:45 PM
Unfortunatly, we are finding them in the pulpit :(
When the salt loses it's saltiness... We need to kick those pastors/ministers out. But the day will come..when the believers will have to exit the "church system" because of it's support of homosexuality/and baby killing because the system will be filled with these kinds of people.
BillyBob
April 28th, 2005, 03:47 PM
God also appointed a minister of justice to put child molesters and rapists to death.
You are for God sending them to hell but opposed to the death penalty? Why Freak?
Good luck getting him to answer that question, I've been asking it for days and he keeps dodging it.
Freak
April 28th, 2005, 03:49 PM
I agree Freak!
God will send these people to Hell for all eternity! Yes, He will!!
Are you NICER than God? Are you more RIGTHEOUS then Jesus?
Oh yeah, the NEW covenant. Yep, Lawlovers (oppose to Jesuslover) forget that we live under a superior covenant.
God used to be interested in justice in the OT, but then after some counseling, He got better. Maybe after a few more counseling sessions, God will realize that Hell is an awful place and stop sending people there. God used to be interested in justice? You got to be kidding? He'll send YOU to hell if you don't surrender to the Lordship of Christ.
Nineveh
April 28th, 2005, 03:49 PM
We need to kick those pastors/ministers out. But the day will come..when the believers will have to exit the "church system" because of it's support of homosexuality/and baby killing because the system will be filled with these kinds of people.
I think the day is here. The anglicans have just split over homosexuals in the pulpit, and I don't think the issue is done doing damge for them yet. And because the ELCA isn't smart enough to see the damage it caused in the methodist and anglican church, they are next.
Gerald
April 28th, 2005, 03:51 PM
Since we're in the the Back Alley, I s'pose I can go ahead and stab Freak in the back now... :devil:
:: draws stiletto, begins picking his teeth with it ::
Freak
April 28th, 2005, 03:51 PM
If God is going to give them the Ultimate Everlasting Death Sentence, then execution is a highly appropriate way for the government to accurately represent God as His minister. Let law be their "tutor" to bring them to Christ. (See Galations 3:24. )
My friend, the question is not "IF."
He WILL punish the unrighteous with everlasting hell.
Zakath
April 28th, 2005, 03:53 PM
My friend, the question is not "IF." He WILL punish the unrighteous with everlasting hell.
...Jay chortles, rubbing his hands gleefully.
Gerald
April 28th, 2005, 03:55 PM
My friend, the question is not "IF."
He WILL punish the unrighteous with everlasting hell.So, in your informed opinion, what percentage of the 6 billion human beings on this planet are "unrighteous"?
BillyBob
April 28th, 2005, 03:57 PM
Look, I've already answered your questions.
No you haven't. :nono:
In fact, I created a thread on the "death penalty." I'm quite vocal in what I believe. Not interested in having anyone "killed." You disagree. That's your right to believe that.
Why do you expect only God to serve justice? If you're gonna wait for everyone to die before they face God and his judgement, you aren't going to deter crime at all. In fact, you are going to encourage it. Why do you gleefully anticipate eternal Hell for Mormons, yet refuse to execute child molesters, rapists and murderers? Why do you refuse to acknowledge that a society has the right and obligation to set laws and punish those who break them?
All child molestors, rapists, satanists, buddhists, hindus, mormons, sodomites, etc will be entering a place of torment for eternity.
See, I have no inclination to execute Mormons. [unless they are child molesters]
Child molesters, on the other hand, should be executed immediately. And why wouldn't you support that, Freak? You are certain they are going to Hell anyway, why not send them there a little sooner? What possible reason do you have to keep them alive knowing full well that they are going to Hell? Isn't is better to permanently remove them from society so another child can never be molested by them again?
Freak
April 28th, 2005, 03:58 PM
So, in your informed opinion, what percentage of the 6 billion human beings on this planet are "unrighteous"?
Jesus said, "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Zakath
April 28th, 2005, 03:59 PM
I wonder whether Jay would be so theologically inclined if his child were molested... :think:
Freak
April 28th, 2005, 03:59 PM
I think the day is here. The anglicans have just split over homosexuals in the pulpit, and I don't think the issue is done doing damge for them yet. And because the ELCA isn't smart enough to see the damage it caused in the methodist and anglican church, they are next. Yes, my wife and I have removed ourselves from the 'church system" and worship with other believers in a small assembly.
BillyBob
April 28th, 2005, 04:00 PM
I wonder whether Jay would be so theologically inclined if his child were molested... :think:
If he sends her to a public school, chances are he will be faced with that dilema.....
Zakath
April 28th, 2005, 04:01 PM
Yes, my wife and I have removed ourselves from the 'church system" and worship with other believers in a small assembly.
So the charismatic Episcopal church you were attending didn't work out, eh? Not righteous enough for you?
Surprise, surprise... :rolleyes:
Freak
April 28th, 2005, 04:03 PM
No you haven't. : There are plenty of threads I have created that deal with the death penalty on TOL. If you don't like the answers then tough.
By the way, even those who support buddhism go to hell. Do you still embrace the teachings of buddhism? You'll go to hell for embracing buddhsim.
Servo
April 28th, 2005, 04:03 PM
Yes, He will!!
Are you more RIGTHEOUS then Jesus?
Yep, Lawlovers (oppose to Jesuslover) forget that we live under a superior covenant.
God used to be interested in justice? You got to be kidding? He'll send YOU to hell if you don't surrender to the Lordship of Christ.
I guess before I even bother responding to you on this, I should make sure that you even remotely understand my previous points. But...that would be a complete waste of time.
Caille
April 28th, 2005, 04:07 PM
I quoted a portion of Scripture that was all inclusive.
See verse 9, "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God?"
Anyone not justified is unrighteous, my friend.
Great, we're on the same page.
So, why single out baby killers and sodomites ? Strange fascination ?
Zakath
April 28th, 2005, 04:09 PM
Great, we're on the same page.
So, why single out baby killers and sodomites ? Strange fascination ?
Skeletons in the closet, perhaps? :think:
Freak
April 28th, 2005, 04:09 PM
Great, we're on the same page.
So, why single out baby killers and sodomites ? Strange fascination ?Because they are in the news all the time. My wife and I meet alot of women who have gone through abortions. They and their boyfriends need to be warned that baby killing is a sin/evil.
Freak
April 28th, 2005, 04:11 PM
Since we're in the the Back Alley, I s'pose I can go ahead and stab Freak in the back now... :devil:
:: draws stiletto, begins picking his teeth with it :: :loser:
Granite
April 28th, 2005, 04:12 PM
So the charismatic Episcopal church you were attending didn't work out, eh? Not righteous enough for you?
Surprise, surprise... :rolleyes:
It never is.
Zakath
April 28th, 2005, 04:14 PM
It never is.
I've seen this numerous times before...
It'll end up as "God bless us four, no more..." Just you watch.
One of these days we'll see Jay on the national news, shooting at the FBI from his compound in Texas... :Grizzly:
Caille
April 28th, 2005, 04:40 PM
Because they are in the news all the time. My wife and I meet alot of women who have gone through abortions. They and their boyfriends need to be warned that baby killing is a sin/evil.
Newspapers are predominately full of bad news - shootings, robberies, atrocities...
I'd be hard pressed to find 2% of my newspaper's content even remotely connected with sodomy or baby killing.
Why do you focus on sodomy and baby killing at the exclusion of other sins ?
Agape4Robin
April 28th, 2005, 04:46 PM
I think that's exactly waht I said, or at least tried to say...
Its called feminist theology, you'd like it if you gave it a chance. The apple thing was
a consequence of the seperation.
Dave
What the :devil: is feminist theology? Sounds like a hidden agenda to me! But you go ahead and explain it to me....you have peaked my interest!
Freak
April 28th, 2005, 05:29 PM
Why do you focus on sodomy and baby killing at the exclusion of other sins ? Actually, I have named many others sins/evils since arriving on TOL several years ago. Baby killing and sodomy is some evils that need to be exposed. If you have a problem with it then don't read this thread.
Like I said, my wife and I have been counseling many young ladies, recently, who have endured abortions. We've also been ministering to those enslaved in homosexuality. It breaks my heart to see this kind of evil endorsed. People need to be warned of these evils.
Thanks for asking.
Zakath
April 29th, 2005, 07:51 AM
...People need to be warned of these evils...Like no one else on TOL "warns" people about these perceived evils... :rolleyes:
Face it Jay, outside of your peculiar area you're merely redundant. :cow:
Mr. 5020
April 29th, 2005, 08:25 AM
Like no one else on TOL "warns" people about these perceived evils... :rolleyes:
Face it Jay, outside of your peculiar area you're merely redundant. :cow:
Yep.
Granite
April 29th, 2005, 08:32 AM
Unhealthy interests, these obsessions.
Zakath
April 29th, 2005, 08:47 AM
Unhealthy interests, these obsessions.
It's not unusual for people to use such finger pointing as a distraction from their own issues... I've heard too many pederasts, fornicators, and adulterers condemning those things from pulpits over the years to be very surprised any more.
It took me many decades to become this cynical. But every year that goes by, religionists give me little reason to hope for change.
Granite
April 29th, 2005, 08:52 AM
It's not unusual for people to use such finger pointing as a distraction from their own issues... I've heard too many pederasts, fornicators, and adulterers condemning those things from pulpits over the years to be very surprised any more.
It took me many decades to become this cynical. But every year that goes by, religionists give me little reason to hope for change.
Well, yeah...that was more or less where I was going with it. Obsession is, after all, an unhealthy interest. Disgust and hate mingled with fascination.
Caille
April 29th, 2005, 08:57 AM
Well, yeah...that was more or less where I was going with it. Obsession is, after all, an unhealthy interest. Disgust and hate mingled with fascination.
Kinda like hanging out here ?
Granite
April 29th, 2005, 08:59 AM
Kinda like hanging out here ?
:chuckle:
Nah, not quite.
Zakath
April 29th, 2005, 09:00 AM
Kinda like hanging out here ?
More like watching someone like Jay or Sozo when they get on one of their rants... :singer:
Granite
April 29th, 2005, 09:02 AM
More like watching someone like Jay or Sozo when they get on one of their rants... :singer:
For sheer entertainment value I'd take Sozo frothing at the mouth...:chuckle:
Caille
April 29th, 2005, 09:09 AM
For sheer entertainment value I'd take Sozo frothing at the mouth...:chuckle:
Yeah - especially when he turns on the people who are agreeing with him !
Agape4Robin
April 29th, 2005, 01:28 PM
To whoever it was that gave me bad rep points for being a feminist...... :nananana:
For the record......I'm not a feminist!
But you are a :loser: !!
Agape4Robin
April 29th, 2005, 02:09 PM
Thanks Z! :kiss:
Justin (Wiccan)
April 29th, 2005, 02:10 PM
For sheer entertainment value I'd take Sozo frothing at the mouth...:chuckle:
Is that a Jeopardy category?
"I'll take 'Sozo Frothing' for a thousand, Alex...."
J
Zakath
April 29th, 2005, 02:15 PM
Is that a Jeopardy category?
"I'll take 'Sozo Frothing' for a thousand, Alex...."
J
It's better than a thousand Sozo's frothing... Ewwww.
Justin (Wiccan)
April 29th, 2005, 02:18 PM
It's better than a thousand Sozo's frothing... Ewwww.
Quite a bit better. If I take 'Sozo Frothing' for a thousand, I can give him back after I've responded with a question. :chuckle:
Zakath
April 29th, 2005, 02:27 PM
Yes, the opportunity to give Sozo away is proof that giving is better than receiving.
Frank Ernest
April 30th, 2005, 06:40 AM
:darwinsm: Looks like :sozo2: stuck it to y'all pretty good.
Delmar
April 30th, 2005, 06:54 AM
:darwinsm: Looks like :sozo2: stuck it to y'all pretty good. that makes me :)
Freak
May 1st, 2005, 09:47 AM
Allow me to say that the baby killers and sodomites are very fortunate that they live under a government that is not operating under the fullness of Biblical Law as they would have called upon them to give their very own lives. God is calling them (and supporters of these evils) to repentance.
Gerald
May 2nd, 2005, 08:56 AM
Jesus said, "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.So, we're talking maybe 99.9999999999999345672% of all human beings currently alive (to say nothing of those who are already dead) are screwed?
Zakath
May 2nd, 2005, 09:02 AM
:darwinsm: Looks like :sozo2: stuck it to y'all pretty good.
[ looking around... funny, I don't see Sozo anywhere... ]
Yup, he did a really bang up job there, Frankie. :rolleyes:
Granite
May 2nd, 2005, 09:02 AM
Allow me to say that the baby killers and sodomites are very fortunate that they live under a government that is not operating under the fullness of Biblical Law as they would have called upon them to give their very own lives. God is calling them (and supporters of these evils) to repentance.
And as I already said, women could also have their hands chopped off. Point?
Delmar
May 2nd, 2005, 09:03 AM
Allow me to say that the baby killers and sodomites are very fortunate that they live under a government that is not operating under the fullness of Biblical Law as they would have called upon them to give their very own lives. God is calling them (and supporters of these evils) to repentance.
Fortunate? No, not fortunate at all ! Most of them would not be baby killers or sodomites if we had a government and a culture that didn't tolerate such behavior.
Zakath
May 2nd, 2005, 09:03 AM
Allow me to say that the baby killers and sodomites are very fortunate that they live under a government that is not operating under the fullness of Biblical Law as they would have called upon them to give their very own lives. God is calling them (and supporters of these evils) to repentance.
Since adultery and fornication are also punishable by death under "the fullness of Biblical Law" that's a statement that probably applies to a good chunk of Christians, as well. :rolleyes:
Caledvwlch
May 2nd, 2005, 09:04 AM
And as I already said, women could also have their hands chopped off. Point?
My new favorite Bible verse. Deuteronomy 25?
Granite
May 2nd, 2005, 09:49 AM
My new favorite Bible verse. Deuteronomy 25?
Verses 12-13. Nice bedtime reading.
Freak
May 2nd, 2005, 04:55 PM
Fortunate? No, not fortunate at all ! Most of them would not be baby killers or sodomites if we had a government and a culture that didn't tolerate such behavior. God has given them opportunity to trust Jesus because they would have been put to death otherwise.
Freak
May 2nd, 2005, 04:56 PM
So, we're talking maybe 99.9999999999999345672% of all human beings currently alive (to say nothing of those who are already dead) are screwed? Yep, you're screwed, my demonized friend. However, God has granted you another day to embrace the love of Jesus. Will you?
Imrahil
May 2nd, 2005, 04:59 PM
Since adultery and fornication are also punishable by death under "the fullness of Biblical Law" that's a statement that probably applies to a good chunk of Christians, as well. :rolleyes:
Since when is fornication punishable by death?
Gerald
May 2nd, 2005, 05:27 PM
Yep, you're screwed, my demonized friend. However, God has granted you another day to embrace the love of Jesus. Will you?Would that make you deleriously, unspeakably happy...?
Would you be willing to name your next child after me?
:: hides large mallet behind back ::
Freak
May 2nd, 2005, 05:33 PM
Would that make you deleriously, unspeakably happy...? No. :nono:
Gerald
May 2nd, 2005, 10:47 PM
No. :nono:About time you learned to spot that joke, considering how many times I punk'd you with it before your hiatus...
Zakath
May 3rd, 2005, 11:57 AM
Since when is fornication punishable by death?
Deuteronomy 22:14, 20-21
"I took this woman, and when I came to her I found she was not a virgin..." But if the thing is true, and evidences of virginity are not found for the young woman, then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has done a disgraceful thing in Israel, to play the harlot in her father's house. So you shall put away the evil from among you.
Deuteronomy 22:23-24
"If a young woman who is a virgin is betrothed to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he humbled his neighbor's wife; so you shall put away the evil from among you."
(This last one might arguably be considered adultery, but could (and has) been used as a legal point against fornication, the first is brought up in the NT as kind of an obtuse reference by Jesus when he referred to allowing divorce in cases of fornication.)
Granite
May 3rd, 2005, 12:23 PM
Real cute. Women as chattel. Go theonomy...
Zakath
May 3rd, 2005, 12:32 PM
Real cute. Women as chattel. Go theonomy...
Hey it's not just picking on women... have you ever noticed that these folks seem to go for large families???
If you realize that these are the folks that want to legalize slavery in the U.S... that way they can sell their kids into indentured servitude to pay off their bills. :thumb:
You gotta love a religion that pragmatic! :greedy:
Caledvwlch
May 3rd, 2005, 12:35 PM
Hey it's not just picking on women... have you ever noticed that these folks seem to go for large families???
If you realize that these are the folks that want to legalize slavery in the U.S... that way they can sell their kids into indentured servitude to pay off their bills. :thumb:
You gotta love a religion that pragmatic! :greedy:
Cha-ching!
Zakath
May 3rd, 2005, 03:34 PM
Cha-ching!
Show me the money!
If you follow the money, you'll find out more than you ever wanted to know about most religious groups. :readthis:
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