Howdy, Im Humpback

[Humpback]

Hello, I live in Colorado. Looks like you have an informative fun forum here. Glad to be here. :rain: It is raining cats and :dog: here today on the western slope. I hope we dont flood.

[SUTG]

Welcome to TOL, humpback. :e4e:

I must say you exhibit an awfully advanced knowledge of the use of smileys for only having made two posts. :chuckle:

[Knight]

Hello, I live in Colorado. Looks like you have an informative fun forum here. Glad to be here. :rain: It is raining cats and :dog: here today on the western slope. I hope we dont flood.
Welcome to TOL, what brought you here?

[miriam]

Hello, I live in Colorado. Looks like you have an informative fun forum here. Glad to be here. :rain: It is raining cats and :dog: here today on the western slope. I hope we dont flood.

Hi Humpback, and welcome to TOL!

If it's raining on the Western slope today, I guess we'll be getting it farther east tonight or tomorrow!

:rain: :sigh:

miriam

[Lucky]

Humpback welcome to TOL.

[Prisca]

Hello!:wave2:

[FellowServant]

Welcome aboard. :D

[MrRadish]

Greetings to you! I hope your time here is pleasant, calm, productive and meaningful. . . pardon me while I collapse with the sheer irony of that statement as applied to TOL.

No, this forum's like hunting a tiger. First you hate it, then you respect it, then you hate it again but are too committed to do anything about it. For a given value of 'hate', anyway.

Don't worry everyone, I like you really!

Have fun.

[Stripe]

wel?

Whalecome to TOL.

[Stripe]

That's a strange sort of welcome Mr. Radish. Why would you say that?

[Shwirly]

Welcome to TOL, pretty newbie-ish myself. Glad to see another left wing, we need a few more of those here xD

[Stripe]

What we wouldn't pay for some smart left wingers. It's beginning to look like it's a contradiction in terms.

[MrRadish]

That's a strange sort of welcome Mr. Radish. Why would you say that?

Because, much as I normally like this forum, there are occasionally times when it's very tempting to crush it in one swift stroke. I simultanously am shocked and appalled by this forum, and enjoy contributing to it and like many of the mebers. I'm sure you feel the same way, just about the opposite things! :D

[Stripe]

You could crush this forum in one swift stroke? You have the art of smack down to a fine art don't you?

[Evoken]

Bienvenido a Teologia en Línea. :)

[Humpback]

Thankyou all....very interesting welcome. I will do my best to be stubborn on this forum. Let the games begin.:banana:

[BillyBob]

Oh boy, another :Commie:


:rolleyes:

[PastorKevin]

Welcome to TOL Humpback. Jump on in and get involved. What would you say are your favorite topics to discuss?

[patman]

Hello, I live in Colorado. Looks like you have an informative fun forum here. Glad to be here. :rain: It is raining cats and :dog: here today on the western slope. I hope we dont flood.

:cheers: Welcome.

You'll have a good time here, it is also a great place to grow.

What are your views in religion and politics?

I am an Open Theist Christian, Right winger.

[Quincy]

im reminded of the movie 300

[patman]

im reminded of the movie 300

:chuckle:

Just let him fight man, just let him fight.

[Humpback]

Thanks everybody. My views? On religion? Ha Ha Ha....wouldn't you like to know. Ha Ha

[Stripe]

We shouldn't have asked then.

No really. What are your religious views?

[PastorKevin]

Thanks everybody. My views? On religion? Ha Ha Ha....wouldn't you like to know. Ha Ha

Sure this is a discussion forum. We can't discuss anything with you if we don't know your views. I only asked what types of things you like to discuss. :think:

[patman]

Thanks everybody. My views? On religion? Ha Ha Ha....wouldn't you like to know. Ha Ha

mmmm I dunno. Ignorance is bliss sometimes. I am having a feeling this is one of those times.

[MrRadish]

You could crush this forum in one swift stroke? You have the art of smack down to a fine art don't you?

You fail to take into account the awesome power of the Death Radish (tm)! But such is not to be discussed here. Not now. Not where anyone could be listening...

*takes swig from bluish, bubbling phial* Ahem. Apologies.

[Stripe]

OK, that was unnecessarily surreal.

[Stripe]

mmmm I dunno. Ignorance is bliss sometimes. I am having a feeling this is one of those times.
You know what I want to try? Humpback whale steak!

:chew:

[patman]

You know what I want to try? Humpback whale steak!

:chew:

Woooo, sounds great! But only if they are still on the endangered list.

Maybe some flipper too.....


mmmmmm

[Stripe]

A side order of Hector's Dolphin?

[Humpback]

Aw well crap! The games began without me. I was...just not here. And after I tell you what I believe you will still think I am.....just not here. Here is a slice of Humpback Whale steak....I believe in this earth as our mother. (matter as our mother) and Light as our father. (enlightenment as our father) I believe the Universe is swarming with spirits. Seen and unseen. I believe all humans are both good and bad...and that it is necessary for this to be true in order to create a balance within the world. I believe Jesus showed us how to save ourselves with his ever present help. Also that Christ took over Jesus's form in order to get the message through. I believe Jesus was a shaman. One who could dance the Big Love down to the people. What say you fellow whale eaters? :zoomin: Ha Ha,
catch me if you can.

[patman]

Aw well crap! The games began without me. I was...just not here. And after I tell you what I believe you will still think I am.....just not here. Here is a slice of Humpback Whale steak....I believe in this earth as our mother. (matter as our mother) and Light as our father. (enlightenment as our father) I believe the Universe is swarming with spirits. Seen and unseen. I believe all humans are both good and bad...and that it is necessary for this to be true in order to create a balance within the world. I believe Jesus showed us how to save ourselves with his ever present help. Also that Christ took over Jesus's form in order to get the message through. I believe Jesus was a shaman. One who could dance the Big Love down to the people. What say you fellow whale eaters? :zoomin: Ha Ha,
catch me if you can.

So you are making up your religion as you go along? Or do you have some basis, i.e. scripture/bible

Hey stipe, I'll have that dolphin now:dead:

[Humpback]

I actually believe it is far better to have your own and let it develope as you go along seeing as once it is written down.....the whole thing goes to hell in a handbasket, now don't it:box: .

[patman]

I actually believe it is far better to have your own and let it develope as you go along seeing as once it is written down.....the whole thing goes to hell in a handbasket, now don't it:box: .

Ok. So do you reject scripture's wisdom and authenticity and replace it with your own?

[Humpback]

What authenticity? Those beliefs come from the Persians, from Egypt, from Mithras, from Zoroaster. Each time changing to suit the changer. :box:

[patman]

What authenticity? Those beliefs come from the Persians, from Egypt, from Mithras, from Zoroaster. Each time changing to suit the changer. :box:

How much have you read exactly to make such a statement?

Before you said "I believe Jesus showed us how to save ourselves with his ever present help." The Bible is the main source we have for this teachings. What we know of him is found there, do you believe in at least that aspect?

[Stripe]

This guy is a fruit loop :D

[patman]

This guy is a fruit loop :D

:hammer: ;)

[patman]

Who doesn't want to make up their own religion, :dunce: eh?

[Humpback]

Oh I have read quite a lot really. A whole lifetime of reading. I have read all of the Bible. All of the Nag Hammadi...which I found more to my liking. Quite a bit of Kabbalism. I probably have every book put out by them "purt near." I have a library full of spiritualistic books. I have The Other Bible. The Gnostic Bible. The Dead Sea Scrolls. Jesus, Last of the Egyptian Pharoahs. Books on Shamanism.
Don't you need to read everything you can get your hands on to be a Theologist? By the way.....I'm female. (Correction Stipe...(This female is a fruit loop.)) Ok now that we have cleared that up that is exactly the point. I find all religious books written strictly by the male gender highly suspect.

Let me see...what else did you ask? Oh Yeah! I do not believe in Jesus because of what is written in the Bible. I had to see him. He came to me in a vision when I was really down one day. Thank God.

[DXPose]

Oh I have read quite a lot really. A whole lifetime of reading. I have read all of the Bible.

First off - Welcome to TOL - the :first: Internet addiction of TRUTH!

Second - you've spent your whole life reading and STILL have a clouded and misinformend worldview? :confused: How does that happen?

Do you believe in absolute right and wrong? Or is all morlaity relative to you?

Don't you need to read everything you can get your hands on to be a Theologist? By the way.....I'm female. (Correction Stipe...(This female is a fruit loop.)) Ok now that we have cleared that up that is exactly the point. I find all religious books written strictly by the male gender highly suspect.


OH NO! :doh: Are you a flaming feminists too? YIKES!

[patman]

Oh I have read quite a lot really. A whole lifetime of reading. I have read all of the Bible. All of the Nag Hammadi...which I found more to my liking. Quite a bit of Kabbalism. I probably have every book put out by them "purt near." I have a library full of spiritualistic books. I have The Other Bible. The Gnostic Bible. The Dead Sea Scrolls. Jesus, Last of the Egyptian Pharoahs. Books on Shamanism.
Don't you need to read everything you can get your hands on to be a Theologist? By the way.....I'm female. (Correction Stipe...(This female is a fruit loop.)) Ok now that we have cleared that up that is exactly the point. I find all religious books written strictly by the male gender highly suspect.

Let me see...what else did you ask? Oh Yeah! I do not believe in Jesus because of what is written in the Bible. I had to see him. He came to me in a vision when I was really down one day. Thank God.

Jesus came to you? Are you sure? I am not big on signs and wonders for these days, I think folks like Benny Hinn frauds. There are explanations for most all modern "wonders."

When I was 8 I saw an alien too...... only I was half asleep and watching a movie about aliens. Even as an adult I still have very vivid dreams that are just dreams and nothing more.

But anyway... You say you believe in Jesus. So that is a good start. Yet you reject the writings about him? What do you do, make up your own ideas about him too?

[Humpback]

Howdy Dxpose, Naw...you don't have to be a flaming feminist to know that the Bible is gender biased. It's just common sense. Clouded and misinformed? How am I clouded and misinformed? Did I say I was clouded and misinformed? Is reading everything you can get your hands on pertaining to theology somehow making me clouded and misinformed? What do you think a theologist does anyway? Do you think a theologist only reads the Bible? Excuse me, :rain: but is this little thread raining **** on me? Oh dear me. Im a little muddy. Do you really want me to explain myself all in one post? I will go you one better.

On your question: Right and wrong and morality. Let's make this simple. There is a book out there called "Bushman Shaman" by Bradford Keeney. Go read that book than come back and ask me that question again. Time to exercise your eyes and get away from all fixating Bible. :cheers: Relax...have a beer and read a good book.

[Humpback]

Howdy Patman. That's the problem. People refuse to see signs and wonders and synchronicities not because they aren't there. They refuse to acknowlege them because of fear. Perhaps it makes the world less scary for them if they make fun of people who admit seeing them. Many many people see Jesus in visions. This is not new. Jesus is the son of God. What you are not seeing is "so are you." Why don't you go on a vision quest before you disregard visions. All of us are the sons and daughters of the Big Love. We are the unshakeable race of humanity. One has to be incredibly brave to dive into earth. Don't disregard your bravery. You knew how dangerous this word was before you came.

[Stripe]

Looks like someone else has no argument to make so is referring to the authority of a book.

[DXPose]

Howdy Dxpose, Naw...you don't have to be a flaming feminist to know that the Bible is gender biased. It's just common sense. Clouded and misinformed? How am I clouded and misinformed? Did I say I was clouded and misinformed? Is reading everything you can get your hands on pertaining to theology somehow making me clouded and misinformed?

Well - this statement kinda gave it away:

"I believe in this earth as our mother. (matter as our mother) and Light as our father. (enlightenment as our father) I believe the Universe is swarming with spirits. Seen and unseen. I believe all humans are both good and bad...and that it is necessary for this to be true in order to create a balance within the world. I believe Jesus showed us how to save ourselves with his ever present help. Also that Christ took over Jesus's form in order to get the message through. I believe Jesus was a shaman."

:rotfl:

On your question: Right and wrong and morality. Let's make this simple. There is a book out there called "Bushman Shaman" by Bradford Keeney. Go read that book than come back and ask me that question again. Time to exercise your eyes and get away from all fixating Bible. :cheers: Relax...have a beer and read a good book.

I didn't ask about what Bradford Keeney believes about morality, I asked YOU! Unless of course, you don't have a standard for right and wrong and you only rely on fictional books to direct your moral compass?

[kmoney]

Looks like someone else has no argument to make so is referring to the authority of a book.
:squint: Ironic?

[Humpback]

Sorry kid...not a fictional book. So, curiously, are you saying there is no evil or bad thoughts running around in you? There is me. Go and sin no more means your definately dead.:jawdrop:

[Humpback]

Hi Kmoney, isn't theology about books? Arn't you supposed to read books? What is wrong with you people. You make fun of people who relate to other books besides the Bible? How can you be a Theologist without reading and relating to books. Your just afraid to read something new. Why should I tell you what my thoughts are on evil and good when someone else has expressed it eloquently enough and a lot better then I could express it. I take it you don't believe that Jesus was a shaman either when every sign points to it.

[kmoney]

Hi Kmoney, isn't theology about books? Arn't you supposed to read books? What is wrong with you people. You make fun of people who relate to other books besides the Bible? How can you be a Theologist without reading and relating to books. Your just afraid to read something new. Why should I tell you what my thoughts are on evil and good when someone else has expressed it eloquently enough and a lot better then I could express it. I take it you don't believe that Jesus was a shaman either when every sign points to it.
You misunderstood my post. stipe said this:

"Looks like someone else has no argument to make so is referring to the authority of a book."

which I assumed was directed at you. I thought it ironic that he would say something about you referring to the authority of a book when he, a Christian, obviously refers to the authority of a book also, the bible.

[Humpback]

Kmoney, OH! HEY Yeah! Your too swift for me kid. :chuckle: Yes...Ironic.

[DXPose]

So, curiously, are you saying there is no evil or bad thoughts running around in you? There is me. Go and sin no more means your definately dead.:jawdrop:

No not at all. Of course we are all sinful creatures, which is why we all need a Savior - Jesus Christ who died for our sins.

What I find odd is your New Age mindset and path towards enlightenment which envolves worshiping dirt and trees! :hammer:

[patman]

Howdy Patman. That's the problem. People refuse to see signs and wonders and synchronicities not because they aren't there. They refuse to acknowlege them because of fear. Perhaps it makes the world less scary for them if they make fun of people who admit seeing them. Many many people see Jesus in visions. This is not new. Jesus is the son of God. What you are not seeing is "so are you." Why don't you go on a vision quest before you disregard visions. All of us are the sons and daughters of the Big Love. We are the unshakeable race of humanity. One has to be incredibly brave to dive into earth. Don't disregard your bravery. You knew how dangerous this word was before you came.

You need to watch your rebuttals, Humpback. You do not know me, nor do you understand why I doubt the majority of the tales of signs and wonders. How can you base your argument towards me when you do not even know me.

I, of all people, would jump at the chance for a sign or a wonder, for I face down a deadly disease that would claim my life had it not been for modern medicine. Do you really think bravery is an issue for me?

You would probably rather see me die searching out a miracle that would never come, rather than seek the aid of doctors, eh? Why? Because you think a sign would save my body, and you base that on some dream you had. It is easy to tell others to follow your signs when you are not the one who would face the consequences of at path.

You claim to know Jesus, but you do not even follow his words in the only book written about him. You reject it, passing it aside as a book written for political gain of ancient kings (Yet those very kings it mocks.).

Who are you to make up a religion?

Will you be the next great cult we hear about on TV?

[Town Heretic]

Looks like you already have things moving along nicely...man, 50+ hits? Way to go! I think I still have the all-time low hello total on TOL holding at 8...and a couple of those were just people looking for the restroom...:rolleyes:

Welcome to the zooniverse, where everyday is Sunday...unless you're one of those Saturday people...or an atheist, in which case every day is Monday.

:bang:

[Humpback]

Howdy Town Heretic, I like your sense of humour. Just people looking for the bathroom. Izzat? I don't know why they are attacking me already. Look at Patman.....He is foaming at the mouth. Crazy guy. I really got him going huh? :chuckle: He's all Grrrrrrrrrr. Woof! Woof! Woof! How do you account for something that bizarre?

[Humpback]

You need to watch your rebuttals, Humpback. You do not know me, nor do you understand why I doubt the majority of the tales of signs and wonders. How can you base your argument towards me when you do not even know me.

(Er...uh.....isn't that what people do here? Or have I missed something?

I, of all people, would jump at the chance for a sign or a wonder, for I face down a deadly disease that would claim my life had it not been for modern medicine. Do you really think bravery is an issue for me?

(Er...uh....I think you missed the point entirely. Everyone who comes to earth is a very brave person. When did I say you were not brave????)

You would probably rather see me die searching out a miracle that would never come, rather than seek the aid of doctors, eh? Why? Because you think a sign would save my body, and you base that on some dream you had. It is easy to tell others to follow your signs when you are not the one who would face the consequences of at path.

(Signs are to uplift the spirit. Why would I want to see you die just because I think differently then you?? That is nonsense! Why would I not want you to seek adaquate medical care. Did I say a sign would cure you? Why are you placing non-existant sentences into this conversation? Follow MY signs?????? Wouldn't a person follow their OWN signs. Consequences of at path? What does that mean, it makes no sense. Did I say I had a dream? When did I say I had a dream? I had a vision...which by the way, makes me no expert. When did I say I know Jesus? I said I know he exist's because I saw him in a vision. A vision is not a dream.)

You claim to know Jesus, but you do not even follow his words in the only book written about him. You reject it, passing it aside as a book written for political gain of ancient kings (Yet those very kings it mocks.).

(political gain of ancient kings? Where are those words in any of my posts? Why are you making things up as you go along. I said I find the Bible highly suspect because no woman took part in the making of it. It is flamingly biased.)

(You are mis-informed. That is not the only book written about Jesus.)

Who are you to make up a religion?

(Now for once we get to the heart of what is bothering you. I am making up my own religion because in all of the world their is no religion for women. I do not like those male religions out there. They suck with violence. They suck with hatred of women. This brings us to another problem. They do not dance. Jesus dances. To worship, I would rather go into the woods and dance with him. I would rather notice the hummingbird that zooms right up to me and looks me in the eyes. I do this alone. So don't worry your little head about a cult?????)

Will you be the next great cult we hear about on TV?

(I cannot talk. Physically. You are not the only one who has ever almost died. If it wasn't for good medical care I would also not be here. That at least is something we have in common. So...see...don't worry, you have to at least be able to talk to be on tv.)

[patman]

(I cannot talk. Physically. You are not the only one who has ever almost died. If it wasn't for good medical care I would also not be here. That at least is something we have in common. So...see...don't worry, you have to at least be able to talk to be on tv.)

Wow it is easy to push your buttons. :chuckle: You react like someone who has guilt.

You asked, "isn't that what people do here? Or have I missed something?" So I ask is this an excuse? You are making up your religion. Others on TOL do that too, and I call them on it just like I did you. So, what is your point? Because other people on TOL make up religions i should let you do it???

You were try ing to be clever in your response, but wow. You blew it in the first paragraph!! Maybe if you focused on the actual points I was making you could have avoided looking so ignorant.

You asked, "When did I say you were not brave????"

When you said people like me refuse to believe in signs because of fear:

"They refuse to acknowlege them because of fear."

I don't feel like I deserve some reward. In the year I have experienced these medical issues I have spoke about them 3 times. I only mentioned it to you because I wanted to show you how you don't even know what you are talking about. Your ideas apply to no one.

You again made a fool of yourself when you said "Now for once we get to the heart of what is bothering you. I am making up my own religion because in all of the world their is no religion for women."

First of all I have said this all along, and this point has been made very clear.. uhh errr maybe you should put to use your comprehension skills. uuhhhh, ya think?

Any religion made by a flawed human will fail. You will be responsible for the people you mislead. They will be on your head when they join you in Hell. I have said before, to you, that the Bible is the main source for Jesus' words, and the entire life is Jesus is foretold through out the bible.

You are misunderstanding the Bible's take towards woman. The ladies on TOL who understand it can help you with this. You are unwise to go against a book that is about the Jesus you say you believe in.

[Humpback]

Oh my God is that you again you little fart. Stick a fork in it already and get back on your meds. I am not mis-leading anybody. Are you telling me you are without fear? I say you were brave to come to earth. Not that you were any less brave after you got here. You are the only one here that is trying to shove your religion down my throat. I certainly have not tried to shove mine down yours. What followers. I don't need any followers. Your just pissed cause I don't have to believe in what you say. The problem is you are extremely paranoid. Seeing everything as an attack against you. Why does one attack.....because they are afraid of something. Also it is a moot point about religion and women. My religion is of a kind that is not written down. Religion's written by men have never been kind to women. Or given them an equal status with men. Where is your head?
You need to drink a beer and calm down. :cheers:

[Humpback]

Dxpose, thanks anyway, but I'll save myself if I can. :comeout:

[NaturalSeer]

Welcome Humpback (I think I only preceded you here by a few short hours! LOL)
I've never been to the western front of CO. All over the eastern side but not the west yet.
I've enjoyed reading your views (the ones you've shared anyways). Cheers :cheers:

[Silk Queen]

Oh my God is that you again you little fart. Stick a fork in it already and get back on your meds. I am not mis-leading anybody. Are you telling me you are without fear? I say you were brave to come to earth. Not that you were any less brave after you got here. You are the only one here that is trying to shove your religion down my throat. I certainly have not tried to shove mine down yours. What followers. I don't need any followers. Your just pissed cause I don't have to believe in what you say. The problem is you are extremely paranoid. Seeing everything as an attack against you. Why does one attack.....because they are afraid of something. Also it is a moot point about religion and women. My religion is of a kind that is not written down. Religion's written by men have never been kind to women. Or given them an equal status with men. Where is your head?
You need to drink a beer and calm down. :cheers:
I just love all the different personalities, Humpback Hi and welcome You made my day.:D

[patman]

Oh my God is that you again you little fart. Stick a fork in it already and get back on your meds. I am not mis-leading anybody. Are you telling me you are without fear? I say you were brave to come to earth. Not that you were any less brave after you got here. You are the only one here that is trying to shove your religion down my throat. I certainly have not tried to shove mine down yours. What followers. I don't need any followers. Your just pissed cause I don't have to believe in what you say. The problem is you are extremely paranoid. Seeing everything as an attack against you. Why does one attack.....because they are afraid of something. Also it is a moot point about religion and women. My religion is of a kind that is not written down. Religion's written by men have never been kind to women. Or given them an equal status with men. Where is your head?
You need to drink a beer and calm down. :cheers:

:noway:

Wow, where to start.:chuckle:

Your crystal ball is broken, Humpback. I thought I showed that to you a few posts back.

Did you forget we are having a conversation that is evolving based on what we learn from each other? Is your memory short? Honestly, based on what I am seeing from you so far, your religion must be full of holes because you are full of holes.

Keep up with the dialog please. You can always use the prior posts to refresh your memory so you can see what we are talking about, and why I am answering you like I am.

For example, your prior post you smarted off pretty bad. You expect me not to smart off back to you? Then you try to tell me to calm down... pleeeeease? Com'on.

You say I am pushing a religion down your throat, yet I have yet to quote you one Bible verse. Remember? I am just trying to show you the wisdom in not making up your own religion.

The girls on TOL can help you understand the Bible's position towards women and men. I really just want you to stop making up a religion and consider their views about the Bible.

I already know you will not listen to me because I am a man;)

Just a side note, as someone "welcoming" you to TOL I feel compelled to remind you that you should realize that people are going to pick your views apart. Why are you here if you don't want someone to tell you what they think?

[Humpback]

Which of course only means that I can pick your views apart too. If you start throwing scripture at me be sure to warn me...so I can be sure to take an air sickness pill ok? Promise me Patman. Psssssst. I do not have a crystal ball. Plus you may have noticed everybody has holes in them. Or did you forget? Cause then I can understand why your so full of it. :loser:

[Minerva]

I actually believe it is far better to have your own and let it develope as you go along seeing as once it is written down.....the whole thing goes to hell in a handbasket, now don't it:box: .

So what do you think happens after you die?

[Servo]

Hello, I live in Colorado. Looks like you have an informative fun forum here. Glad to be here. :rain: It is raining cats and :dog: here today on the western slope. I hope we dont flood.

I used to live on the western slope. Montrose!

Welcome to TOL.

[Humpback]

Hye Shimei,
Montrose is cool. Not too far from here.

[Humpback]

Hi Minerva,
We go across. :D

[Minerva]

Across what to where? Mind being a little more specific?

[patman]

Which of course only means that I can pick your views apart too. If you start throwing scripture at me be sure to warn me...so I can be sure to take an air sickness pill ok? Promise me Patman. Psssssst. I do not have a crystal ball. Plus you may have noticed everybody has holes in them. Or did you forget? Cause then I can understand why your so full of it. :loser:

Thanks for showing everyone your religions is full of holes :)

Now if only you would do something about it...

[Humpback]

Oh no way dude, that comeback sucked. Even for you. It didn't even make any sense. How can I answer something that doesn't even make any sense? Excuse me, I gotta go get another beer.:cheers:

[Humpback]

Hi Minerva,
Alabama huh? It sounds as if you have a full plate. Wow. Plus being a mother. On what you asked. Many people have seen the other side. Usually they go through a very sorrowful place first. They end up giving up on the world. They generally realize they are being who everyone else wants them to be and not who they truly are. Some finally realize that to see whats really out there in this world something has to change. They know they have gotten to that place called the dark night of the soul. They realize something is calling them. They will generally step out of their lives for a small while and go to the wilderness to be alone. To see what they can see. It only takes a quiet time, to see the other side.

[Minerva]

Hi Minerva,
Alabama huh? It sounds as if you have a full plate. Wow. Plus being a mother. On what you asked. Many people have seen the other side. Usually they go through a very sorrowful place first. They end up giving up on the world. They generally realize they are being who everyone else wants them to be and not who they truly are. Some finally realize that to see whats really out there in this world something has to change. They know they have gotten to that place called the dark night of the soul. They realize something is calling them. They will generally step out of their lives for a small while and go to the wilderness to be alone. To see what they can see. It only takes a quiet time, to see the other side.

So you say you make this up as you go along more or less, are there others you know with your same beliefs? What do you call this?

Wondering also why residing in Alabama gives me a full plate.

:cheers: (by the way, I just grabbed a cold one too!)

[patman]

Oh no way dude, that comeback sucked. Even for you. It didn't even make any sense. How can I answer something that doesn't even make any sense? Excuse me, I gotta go get another beer.:cheers:

What? You think your come back was good just cause you used the ":loser: " icon?

I thought ms. Make-Your-Own-Religion would understand a thing or two...

[obsolete53]

What we wouldn't pay for some smart left wingers. It's beginning to look like it's a contradiction in terms.
I prefer smarty pants communist.

[Stripe]

Speaking of :loser: 's .. I think I just added to humpy's rep, and put her positive, when I meant to send her permanently into the red ..

[patman]

Speaking of :loser: 's .. I think I just added to humpy's rep, and put her positive, when I meant to send her permanently into the red ..

It isn't as high as it once was:)

Maybe when she wakes up from her hang over she'll let us know.

BTW, did someone mention wings?

[Stripe]

'th TV show? I don't think so ...

?

[patman]

'th TV show? I don't think so ...

?

No, buffalo wings.
:chew:



It is the only time a left wing is good:nori:

[Stripe]

Buffalo Wings?!?

I still want Whale steak!

[Humpback]

Hi Minerva,
I read your profile silly. It told me you had a lot going on. On making up your own religion. You sort of have to, as it is, especially for women. Since men have so completely disected us out of all of their religions (idiots). They have also tossed out soul, and nature, and mother earth. All of these are feminine aspects. They have been trying to kill us for a long time now. This is why we must hide what we do and what we discover about soul from men. We are spiritual. Men are religious. There is a difference. Yet if a man who goes into the wilderness in order to discover his soul and who he is, and is searching for that lost half of his life. He is reaching for his feminine. Therefore he is discovering his spiritual root. There is nothing wrong with a man trying to find his soul. But for the female, if you are going to make up your own religion as you progress. Tell no man. Also never let them see you communicating with Jesus, your ancestors, and the other helpers of which there are many, including animal spirits. For if your preacher or husband find out what you are doing, they will do their best to kill your spirituality. So first of all secrecy is the most valued of attributes.:cheers: Lets have another beer. Wah!

[Humpback]

Funny how you all mention the word Buffalo. You don't know how appropriate it is. Talk about synchronicity.....WOW! I'll leave it for you to figure out since your such geniuses.

Patman, you little monkey fart go to bed. Your up way too late.:p

[patman]

Funny how you all mention the word Buffalo. You don't know how appropriate it is. Talk about synchronicity.....WOW! I'll leave it for you to figure out since your such geniuses.

Patman, you little monkey fart go to bed. Your up way too late.:p

Get anther line, will ya? And are you making fun of stipe lips or something?

[Stripe]

This chick is a fruit loop.

[mojill]

First of all WELCOME Humpback - I'm new too. Happy to see someone whose views are a little different than the majority.

That said - I have to say nothing makes me smile more than listening to/reading the words of a bunch of people who all believe in the supernatural and the powers of the gods or spirits and all the myths of the particular faith and stuff like that yet each one has the nerve to call the other one's beliefs "weird". LOL
:bannana:

[patman]

First of all WELCOME Humpback - I'm new too. Happy to see someone whose views are a little different than the majority.

That said - I have to say nothing makes me smile more than listening to/reading the words of a bunch of people who all believe in the supernatural and the powers of the gods or spirits and all the myths of the particular faith and stuff like that yet each one has the nerve to call the other one's beliefs "weird". LOL
:bannana:

Check the thread, that was "fruit loop," first of all. Second of all, it is "weird" to make up your own religion these days.

Thirdly, I am just dying to know how this world earth ever got by without the likes of Humpback gracing us with her religion for these thousands of years of human existence.

[Minerva]

Hi Minerva,
I read your profile silly. It told me you had a lot going on. On making up your own religion. You sort of have to, as it is, especially for women. Since men have so completely disected us out of all of their religions (idiots). They have also tossed out soul, and nature, and mother earth. All of these are feminine aspects. They have been trying to kill us for a long time now. This is why we must hide what we do and what we discover about soul from men. We are spiritual. Men are religious. There is a difference. Yet if a man who goes into the wilderness in order to discover his soul and who he is, and is searching for that lost half of his life. He is reaching for his feminine. Therefore he is discovering his spiritual root. There is nothing wrong with a man trying to find his soul. But for the female, if you are going to make up your own religion as you progress. Tell no man. Also never let them see you communicating with Jesus, your ancestors, and the other helpers of which there are many, including animal spirits. For if your preacher or husband find out what you are doing, they will do their best to kill your spirituality. So first of all secrecy is the most valued of attributes.:cheers: Lets have another beer. Wah!

Um......well, I'm sorry for your poor experiences with men. I don't feel the same, but's that's because I don't take any crap, I make myself heard, and well I've just kinda got it like that. Anyway, I have to say that when people take a little bit from many different religions and mesh it together to make their own strange congealed mess (kind of like the kurds these days) that nothing good can come from it. I think you are very confused dear. I think you have a paranoid inferiority complex and issues with men. You need Jesus. ;)

[Humpback]

Hi Stipe
What is he talking about "stipe lips"??? Is he making fun of you? Wuzza matta wit your lips kid?

[Humpback]

Hi Mojill,
Mine is not a religion sorry. :rolleyes: I see you are atheist. Congrats.

[mojill]

Hi Mojill,
Mine is not a religion sorry. :rolleyes: I see you are atheist. Congrats.

I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

I just laugh when I see the comments fly around here regarding each other's particular thinking on things of a "belief" nature. Especially in an introduction thread.

But you're doing a good job with this group - so my hat's off to you.

[Humpback]

Check the thread, that was "fruit loop," first of all. Second of all, it is "weird" to make up your own religion these days.

Hello again Bean Brain,
Why is it weird to make up your own religion. Especially if it fits you. It just sounds to me that your saying anything on this earth that might be different is also weird. Remember when the Wright brothers wanted to fly. Everybody thought they were weird too. I'll take your "weird" and make it reality. WAH!

Thirdly, I am just dying to know how this world earth ever got by without the likes of Humpback gracing us with her religion for these thousands of years of human existence.

First of all it is not a religion. Second of all it is my own spirituality. Others have their own spirituality. Oh, and don't you worry about Mother Earth. She has always gotten along just fine. No matter what men do to kick her out of their gender biased religions. Eventually they will all have to deal with her. In one way or another.:juggle: She'll be juggling you around like a pro.

[Humpback]

Thanks Mojill, good luck here. This is a mean crowd. Can't wait to see you in attack mode. :mad: (Ha Ha)

[Humpback]

Um......well, I'm sorry for your poor experiences with men. I don't feel the same, but that's because I don't take any crap, I make myself heard, and well I've just kinda got it like that. Anyway, I have to say that when people take a little bit from many different religions and mesh it together to make their own strange congealed mess (kind of like the Kurds these days) that nothing good can come from it. I think you are very confused dear. I think you have a paranoid inferiority complex and issues with men. You need Jesus. ;)

Howdy Minerva, Its good you don't take crap. I like that. Actually, I take a lot from the books I read and compare the similarities not the differences. The whole point is to AT LEAST READ. By the way...the KURDS are directly descended from Noah so they say. At least read up on them if your not going to read up on anything else. "Paranoid inferiority complex and issues with men." Your doggone right I do when they start spouting off their gender related religions into my face thank you very much. Im a warrior. I'll kick their forked tails between their legs.
"I need Jesus?" I saw him. I surprised him and made him jump up off his throne and look my way. I was hiding behind a bush. I was surprised too. He flew swiftly toward me. Their was a thin veil between us. I smiled at him. He had white hair down to his shoulders and was clean shaven. His mouth formed into a perfect "O" and he blew the wind of grace into my bedroom. I have never felt so loved. Or so peaceful. Kind of strange isn't it. Me being a non "stagnant religion going" sinner and all of that. Christianity is stuck.....in the same mode for 2000 years...and guess what? It's starting to stink up the place. A bit like a pool full of dead animals. :dead: Like they say, if you are not with him then you are against him. Well....I think that vision qualifies me as being with him. I am trying to educate myself spiritually. Nix on religion.:vomit:

[Minerva]

Howdy Minerva, Its good you don't take crap. I like that. Actually, I take a lot from the books I read and compare the similarities not the differences. The whole point is to AT LEAST READ. By the way...the KURDS are directly descended from Noah so they say. At least read up on them if your not going to read up on anything else. "Paranoid inferiority complex and issues with men." Your doggone right I do when they start spouting off their gender related religions into my face thank you very much. Im a warrior. I'll kick their forked tails between their legs.
"I need Jesus?" I saw him. I surprised him and made him jump up off his throne and look my way. I was hiding behind a bush. I was surprised too. He flew swiftly toward me. Their was a thin veil between us. I smiled at him. He had white hair down to his shoulders and was clean shaven. His mouth formed into a perfect "O" and he blew the wind of grace into my bedroom. I have never felt so loved. Or so peaceful. Kind of strange isn't it. Me being a non "stagnant religion going" sinner and all of that. Christianity is stuck.....in the same mode for 2000 years...and guess what? It's starting to stink up the place. A bit like a pool full of dead animals. :dead: Like they say, if you are not with him then you are against him. Well....I think that vision qualifies me as being with him. I am trying to educate myself spiritually. Nix on religion.:vomit:


I do read as a matter of fact. I read a LOT and about a myriad of subject matter. I am fully aware of who the kurds are thank you, I know quite a bit about them actually. And whoever this "they" is that say the kurds descended from Noah...hahaha well, anyway. By the way, these words......

Since men have so completely disected us out of all of their religions (idiots). They have also tossed out soul, and nature, and mother earth. All of these are feminine aspects. They have been trying to kill us for a long time now. This is why we must hide what we do and what we discover about soul from men......But for the female, if you are going to make up your own religion as you progress. Tell no man. Also never let them see you communicating with Jesus, your ancestors, and the other helpers of which there are many, including animal spirits. For if your preacher or husband find out what you are doing, they will do their best to kill your spirituality. So first of all secrecy is the most valued of attributes.

....they don't sound like the words of a "warrior". Do get yourself straightened out.

FYI - I hoped that I might get enough information out of you about your beliefs to be able to decipher some innate sense of coherency. Sadly I think that my time with you would be wasted for the most part due to the obvious. I hope you get :help: .

[patman]

First of all it is not a religion. Second of all it is my own spirituality. Others have their own spirituality. Oh, and don't you worry about Mother Earth. She has always gotten along just fine. No matter what men do to kick her out of their gender biased religions. Eventually they will all have to deal with her. In one way or another.:juggle: She'll be juggling you around like a pro.

Mother earth? Who said anything about that? You want her to juggle me around before you even know what I think about the subject matter? You are mean, and full of hate.

Full of hate. That was just cruel.:rolleyes:

It is weird to make up your own religion. Crazy people do it, crazy, like you.

Here, let me show you what weird means

weird |wi(?)rd|
adjective
suggesting something supernatural; uncanny : the weird crying of a seal.
• informal very strange; bizarre : a weird coincidence | all sorts of weird and wonderful characters.
• archaic connected with fate.
noun
archaic chiefly Scottish a person's destiny.

Out of how many people out there make up their own religion?

Ohh, hang on, you need to know what a religion is too....

religion |ri?lij?n|
noun
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods : ideas about the relationship between science and religion.
• details of belief as taught or discussed : when the school first opened they taught only religion, Italian, and mathematics.
• a particular system of faith and worship : the world's great religions.
• a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance : consumerism is the new religion.

So you are making up your own religion because you think other religions "hate" women, and it is weird to do that.

:doh:

[Humpback]

Hi Minerva,
The KURDS say that about themselves. If you had been reading up on them you would know that. I can't imagine what you are reading. Could it be perhaps Romance??? You have certainly not read anything about the Kurds. (Er..uh..these are not the curds in cottage cheese.):chew:

[Humpback]

Oh Please Patman...give me a break. Why are you pretending to be hurt for as much as you can give back one on one. Mean and hateful. You started it you kookoo! If you recall. Why should making up my own religion frighten you so much. People have a one on one with spirituality all the time. Quit pretending Im the only wacko out here. There are plenty of us I will have you know....thank you very much!:alien: You boob job.

[patman]

Oh Please Patman...give me a break. Why are you pretending to be hurt for as much as you can give back one on one. Mean and hateful. You started it you kookoo! If you recall. Why should making up my own religion frighten you so much. People have a one on one with spirituality all the time. Quit pretending Im the only wacko out here. There are plenty of us I will have you know....thank you very much!:alien: You boob job.

Who said I was hurt? I was only pointing out more of your inconsistencies in a cool fun way. Everyone likes to see your crazy answers, and I like to provoke them out of you so you loose credibility.

Most of all, I would like for you to realize that you are not a good source from which to breed a reliable religion, in hopes you consider Christianity instead so that your soul may be saved.

So I am not scared... only concerned for your eternal life and the eternal lives of those you may take down with you.

[Humpback]

Oh yes...the ever present pretence of being concerned for my immortal soul. Oh yes and worse yet....to actually take somebody down with me. Heaven forbid. Save the world from something she might spread. Since when is anybody going to listen to me. You put me up on quite a pedestal their buddy. Mind getting a ladder so I can get down. I would rather stand on earth if you don't mind. As for hell. My question has always been this....what the hell is that concept all about anyway. This takes us to the peak of mans EGO. He doesn't just want you to DIE for not thinking (just exactly like him.) He also wants to PUNISH you for not thinking (just exactly like him.) And not only does he want to punish you for that. He wants to punish you in the MOST HORRIBLE WAY POSSIBLE for not thinking (just exactly like him.) And not only does he want to punish you in the most horrible way possible but he also wants to punish you FOREVER AND FOREVER AND FOREVER. Such is the justice of men. Such is the story of HELL. When anybody asks me what is the definition of HELL, I tell them "Man's Ego. You may well be in shock as you correct me: "No it's not!! It's a place of damnation for sinners." So then I'll say, "Wow.....COOL.....Can I go first???" :chuckle: Leave me to MY Mother, MY Father, MY Ancestors, My Spirits, My Animal Spirits, My Angels and to all the ones who truly love me. They are far more forgiving than MAMMON.

[Minerva]

Who said I was hurt? I was only pointing out more of your inconsistencies in a cool fun way. Everyone likes to see your crazy answers, and I like to provoke them out of you so you loose credibility.

Most of all, I would like for you to realize that you are not a good source from which to breed a reliable religion, in hopes you consider Christianity instead so that your soul may be saved.

So I am not scared... only concerned for your eternal life and the eternal lives of those you may take down with you.

Does it make us crazy to keep talking with this person? :noid:

Yes, I think.....with every post I read....Can't....fight...urge....to make own religion.....:help:

[Stripe]

This chick is insane. I give her a few more days ...

[patman]

It has become a joke actually. I am here for the laughs at this point. I think it became this way around the time I was called a tiny flatulence.

I liked the full of hate line:) It is an inside joke. I amuse myself to easily.

[patman]

Oh yes...the ever present pretence of being concerned for my immortal soul. Oh yes and worse yet....to actually take somebody down with me. Heaven forbid. Save the world from something she might spread. Since when is anybody going to listen to me. You put me up on quite a pedestal their buddy. Mind getting a ladder so I can get down. I would rather stand on earth if you don't mind. As for hell. My question has always been this....what the hell is that concept all about anyway. This takes us to the peak of mans EGO. He doesn't just want you to DIE for not thinking (just exactly like him.) He also wants to PUNISH you for not thinking (just exactly like him.) And not only does he want to punish you for that. He wants to punish you in the MOST HORRIBLE WAY POSSIBLE for not thinking (just exactly like him.) And not only does he want to punish you in the most horrible way possible but he also wants to punish you FOREVER AND FOREVER AND FOREVER. Such is the justice of men. Such is the story of HELL. When anybody asks me what is the definition of HELL, I tell them "Man's Ego. You may well be in shock as you correct me: "No it's not!! It's a place of damnation for sinners." So then I'll say, "Wow.....COOL.....Can I go first???" :chuckle: Leave me to MY Mother, MY Father, MY Ancestors, My Spirits, My Animal Spirits, My Angels and to all the ones who truly love me. They are far more forgiving than MAMMON.

Oh wow, a half way serious post from you!:jawdrop:

Huh.

Telling you that you are going to hell is no ego trip. Hell is a place for people who reject God. Sure, punishment is there, but that punishment will fit the crime. Hell is really a place where people get what they want, to get away from God.

So if you hate God and his ways, you will feel at home in hell. But on the other hand, if you would like the blessings of heaven and of being with God, be saved.

Listen, Humpback, really. You are on TOL. There are so many different views on here, you can never tell what the person on the other end believes. It is easier to rebut what they think AFTER you find out what they think. You could have asked me first what I thought about hell before you made that big long paragraph about it.

[Humpback]

Whats a matter you big flippin chicken head!!! What is so wrong about stating your views on hell NOW! Since you brought it up. Since evidently I am going there. Maybe you could give me a guided tour at least. How can I hate God. He sustains us and is all around us. Where did I say I hate GOD. YOU say I hate God just because I don't believe in your narrow perception of him. What you have been doing is reading my whole posts and not once commenting on what is within them but instead throwing out one liners and judgemental prophecy. Somebody brought up HELL. Now who the Hell was it??? Besides, you had ample opportunity to discuss it with me in your last post. Instead you wandered off the subject like you had to go piss in the woods. What exactly is it that bothers you about my (BIG LONG PARAGRAPH) other than its the truth. If that's the limit of your defence then I have already won you Christian Zombie!! :sleep: Sleep little Zombie sleep. Let me know when you wake up. :first:

[Humpback]

This chick is insane. I give her a few more days ...

It's already been a few more days Judge Leroy Bean. What are you going to do walk me up a scaffold?? Put the noose around my neck. Just why am I insane exactly. Didn't the "Beard Boys" of the Bible make up their own religion too.
Yes. They did didn't they.

[Humpback]

Does it make us crazy to keep talking with this person? :noid:

Yes, I think.....with every post I read....Can't....fight...urge....to make own religion.....:help:

Don't worry about it kid. Yes, I think.....with every post I read....Can't....fight...urge...to defend myself. You need to go scrapbook. Run along now. This is a fight for warriors.:box: You do not qualify.:chuckle:

[patman]

Whats a matter you big flippin chicken head!!! What is so wrong about stating your views on hell NOW! Since you brought it up. Since evidently I am going there. Maybe you could give me a guided tour at least. How can I hate God. He sustains us and is all around us. Where did I say I hate GOD. YOU say I hate God just because I don't believe in your narrow perception of him. What you have been doing is reading my whole posts and not once commenting on what is within them but instead throwing out one liners and judgemental prophecy. Somebody brought up HELL. Now who the Hell was it??? Besides, you had ample opportunity to discuss it with me in your last post. Instead you wandered off the subject like you had to go piss in the woods. What exactly is it that bothers you about my (BIG LONG PARAGRAPH) other than its the truth. If that's the limit of your defence then I have already won you Christian Zombie!! :sleep: Sleep little Zombie sleep. Let me know when you wake up. :first:

What are you talking about? I told you my views on hell because they are different than you said they would be. Remember?

Let's recap...

I said: "So I am not scared... only concerned for your eternal life and the eternal lives of those you may take down with you."

Notice there is no mention of hell at all......

Then you said: "As for hell. My question has always been this....what the hell is that concept all about anyway. This takes us to the peak of mans EGO. He doesn't just want you to DIE for not thinking (just exactly like him.) He also wants to PUNISH you for not thinking (just exactly like him.) And not only does he want to punish you for that. He wants to punish you in the MOST HORRIBLE WAY POSSIBLE for not thinking (just exactly like him.) And not only does he want to punish you in the most horrible way possible but he also wants to punish you FOREVER AND FOREVER AND FOREVER. Such is the justice of men. Such is the story of HELL. When anybody asks me what is the definition of HELL, I tell them "Man's Ego. You may well be in shock as you correct me: "No it's not!! It's a place of damnation for sinners." So then I'll say, "Wow.....COOL.....Can I go first???" "

Soo I said: "Hell is a place for people who reject God. Sure, punishment is there, but that punishment will fit the crime. Hell is really a place where people get what they want, to get away from God."

I also requested you: "asked me first what I thought about hell before you made that big long paragraph about it," because, "You are on TOL. There are so many different views on here..."

Now... -sigh-you say: "What is so wrong about stating your views on hell NOW! Since you brought it up. Since evidently I am going there."

You brought up hell, you said you were going there, and you still cant follow a conversation.

If you believe in God and Jesus and have asked him to forgive your sins and save you through his sacrifice, you are saved. No matter how goofed you theology is, God can still save you. But your eternal life can be much richer if you have a good theology, if you live a good life, and if you do the right things.

Again, it was YOU who put words in MY mouth. Discussion with you isn't really discussion. It is more like this:

I throw an idea out there and you tell me everything I think on the issue...... only it isn't even close to what I think. It is a one sided conversation. I am watching you fight me against what you think I said.

I could have told you more about my views if I thought you were interested. I don't think you are, so I am just warning you about the foolishness of making up your own religion.

[Humpback]

I NEED my sins...thank you very much. My sins keep me human. Also the point being that I do not reject God you pompous stick. I reject your concept of him. There has never been any confusion about that. Except by you doo doo brain.
Jesus says to forgive. Do you think he would have said that if God did not forgive. Don't pretend to be concerned about my eternal life you spooky hypocrite. I know a lie when I hear one.

An who wants to argue about who said what or who started what anyway. All I know is you jumped on board a long time ago with sword in hand calling me nuts.

Also where is your comment on MY views about Hell????? It seems very odd to me that you haven't said one word about my senario, and what gave rise to it. No thought's there?? Religious robots are a dime a dozen kid. :chuckle:

That little string of words is supposedly your view on hell. "DOWN" is your view on hell????? Down is not Hell for you. Just exactly what is DOWN then. Er...ah...Down the stairs??? Down the football field??? Down to Mexico???
Why would I not realize that you were talking about Hell. I can follow a conversation just fine. It's you who insinuate something then just because you didn't say that exact word pretend you were not talking about it. Does it look like I have STUPID written on my forhead???

Exactly what is so foolish about making up my own religion. I think you are the cow stuck in the paddock friend.

[patman]

I NEED my sins...thank you very much. My sins keep me human. Also the point being that I do not reject God you pompous stick. I reject your concept of him. There has never been any confusion about that. Except by you doo doo brain.
Jesus says to forgive. Do you think he would have said that if God did not forgive. Don't pretend to be concerned about my eternal life you spooky hypocrite. I know a lie when I hear one.

An who wants to argue about who said what or who started what anyway. All I know is you jumped on board a long time ago with sword in hand calling me nuts.

Also where is your comment on MY views about Hell????? It seems very odd to me that you haven't said one word about my senario, and what gave rise to it. No thought's there?? Religious robots are a dime a dozen kid. :chuckle:

That little string of words is supposedly your view on hell. "DOWN" is your view on hell????? Down is not Hell for you. Just exactly what is DOWN then. Er...ah...Down the stairs??? Down the football field??? Down to Mexico???
Why would I not realize that you were talking about Hell. I can follow a conversation just fine. It's you who insinuate something then just because you didn't say that exact word pretend you were not talking about it. Does it look like I have STUPID written on my forhead???

Exactly what is so foolish about making up my own religion. I think you are the cow stuck in the paddock friend.

I am concerned about you. You must have little concern for others if you can't see that.

Like I said, one's theology is not what saves them. I would like you to consider my ideas about God, but, again, you reject them before you even know about them.

Seriously, this post just proves the point I made in my last post. You aren't following the conversation, you are creating ideas I don't even have. You don't even realize it.

If you want to keep your sins, God will allow that. But don't expect to go to heaven with them. God can forgive them if you want that, but you need your humanity more than God i guess....

[patman]

Is it to much to ask for someone to know how to converse before attempting a deeper conversation with that person?:dead:

[patman]

This chick is insane. I give her a few more days ...

I am guessing 2, what is your wager?

[Humpback]

I am concerned about you. You must have little concern for others if you can't see that.

Like I said, one's theology is not what saves them. I would like you to consider my ideas about God, but, again, you reject them before you even know about them.

Seriously, this post just proves the point I made in my last post. You aren't following the conversation, you are creating ideas I don't even have. You don't even realize it.

If you want to keep your sins, God will allow that. But don't expect to go to heaven with them. God can forgive them if you want that, but you need your humanity more than God i guess....

Concerned.....about me. Oh ho I think not. Ok reject just why don't you tell me about your ideas about God. Let's just see where you go with this. As if I don't already know. My posts prove I am on top of it. All yours do is set you up on a smug pedestal. The only thing you have proved so far is that you are a condescending giraffe.

I will go anywhere I want to with all my sins you stick up the patootie. Just because you proclaim to be a Christian does not give you the right to pretend what God will allow or not allow. I keep trying to tell you. MEN WROTE THE BIBLE. Not GOD! Exactly what ideas am I creating that you don't have. You can't just throw that out their and not get challenged. I am reading this post right along with you. Quit pretending that I am not responding accurately to you.

And yes I need my humanity. Very much. Where's your's Beetle Juice. Did you squeeze it all out when you quit sinning? Did it all come out in the crapper?
What is wrong with being human piddle head?

[Humpback]

Patman and Stipe.....you guys should write fairy tales. You would be very good at it. What is the wager??? Can I play too. :bannana:

[P8ntrDan]

Patman and Stipe.....you guys should write fairy tales. You would be very good at it. What is the wager??? Can I play too. :bannana:


Exactly what is so foolish about making up my own religion. I think you are the cow stuck in the paddock friend.

:rotfl:

[P8ntrDan]

It's already been a few more days Judge Leroy Bean. What are you going to do walk me up a scaffold?? Put the noose around my neck. Just why am I insane exactly. Didn't the "Beard Boys" of the Bible make up their own religion too.
Yes. They did didn't they.

The way you can tell about that the Bible wasn't the creation of a religion by one but rather the compilation of writings throughout the ages is the minute contradictions, not enough to shatter Christianity as falible, but still something that a single author would have avoided.

[Humpback]

Thank you DAN THE MAN. Alright. Dan's my dude! :zoomin: Get on lets ride on the wild side.

[Silk Queen]

Wow this is a long running welcome thread! :chuckle:

[Stripe]

We're welcoming this nutcase good and proper.

[Humpback]

Why thanks Stipe. Hello Silk Queen.:drum: Pretty soon were going to celebrate. They haven't :execute: chopped off my head yet. :grave:

[patman]

Concerned.....about me. Oh ho I think not. Ok reject just why don't you tell me about your ideas about God. Let's just see where you go with this. As if I don't already know. My posts prove I am on top of it. All yours do is set you up on a smug pedestal. The only thing you have proved so far is that you are a condescending giraffe.

I will go anywhere I want to with all my sins you stick up the patootie. Just because you proclaim to be a Christian does not give you the right to pretend what God will allow or not allow. I keep trying to tell you. MEN WROTE THE BIBLE. Not GOD! Exactly what ideas am I creating that you don't have. You can't just throw that out their and not get challenged. I am reading this post right along with you. Quit pretending that I am not responding accurately to you.

And yes I need my humanity. Very much. Where's your's Beetle Juice. Did you squeeze it all out when you quit sinning? Did it all come out in the crapper?
What is wrong with being human piddle head?

:yawn:

There you go again.

I'll tell you about my theology when you stop telling me what I think first. How's that.

Just go back through your last post, and the one before that, and resubmit it. Only use the words you already said. In one half of the post, put the words you used that you know to be true about me, in the other half put the words that you do not know.

That way I know you understand that half of your complaints towards me are just made up in your head.

[Silk Queen]

Hell is being spoken of some in this thread, what will hell be like will there be light or darkness?

[Ktoyou]

:chew: Humpback, you are a loser :chew:

:loser:

[elohiym]

Hell is being spoken of some in this thread, what will hell be like will there be light or darkness?Darkness.

Jude 1:11-13 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

[Silk Queen]

Darkness.

Jude 1:11-13 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
Thanks elo what I was getting at was fire produces light so how can there be a literal fire?
This has to be a spiritual fire because our God is a consuming fire.

[Humpback]

Thank you Silk Queen, someone with a head on her shoulders at last. But don't expect an answer to your question. This crowd glosses over obvious discrepencies like lofty pinheads. Their so high up they cannot see the obvious.
GOOD QUESTION. My hats off to you.:cheers:

[Humpback]

Darkness.

Jude 1:11-13 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

I think your fellow Jude should have layed off the opium or at least someone shouldn't have let him have a pen and paper. Though it would make a dandy video game. :chuckle:

[Humpback]

:chew: Humpback, you are a loser :chew:

:loser:

Why thank you Ktoyou. As I recall...Jesus loves losers. Also this is not news to me. I have always been a loser. Lay off me Boob Job. Go back to your kitchen and russel up some more of what your eating.:D

[Humpback]

:yawn:

There you go again.

I'll tell you about my theology when you stop telling me what I think first. How's that.

You acted like I interrupted you in mid-thought. As if we were standing face to face. This is a FORUM dunderhead. You have all the time you need to post your thoughts on theology. You sound like a belligerent child: (Im not telling you what I believe about theology until you stop attacking me.) is what you are really saying.
Why would I not defend my position.

Just go back through your last post, and the one before that, and resubmit it. Only use the words you already said. In one half of the post, put the words you used that you know to be true about me, in the other half put the words that you do not know.

What is this a frigging homework assignment. I gotta do over. I know exactly what I said. I don't need to re-do teacher.

That way I know you understand that half of your complaints towards me are just made up in your head.

Complaints towards you! I believe Im complaining about the whole of the antiquated system. Don't take things so personal little one. I promise to go easy on you if you want to lay out your visions of theology. There...hows that?:D

[Silk Queen]

Thanks elo what I was getting at was fire produces light so how can there be a literal fire?
This has to be a spiritual fire because our God is a consuming fire.
The physical fire can not burn the spirit.
God is a consuming fire and the fire burns until it consumes our spirit, no more sin left is my understanding.
The physical fire cannot burn a spiritual body, fire produces light.
So once again this must be a spiritual fire of judgement.
The spiritual fire is going on right now for some of us.
It can be painful but it is part of the journey.

[Humpback]

Once again well said...Makes sense to me. Thanks Silk Queen.

[Ktoyou]

Why thank you Ktoyou. As I recall...Jesus loves losers. Also this is not news to me. I have always been a loser. Lay off me Boob Job. Go back to your kitchen and russel up some more of what your eating.:D

Perhaps it is time for you to try to change and not be such a loser, work on your life!

I don’t know who Boob Job is or what you mean? These are the nonsense thoughts you need to rid yourself, perhaps you will find help on TOL.

[Glenda]

The physical fire can not burn the spirit.
God is a consuming fire and the fire burns until it consumes our spirit, no more sin left is my understanding.
The physical fire cannot burn a spiritual body, fire produces light.
So once again this must be a spiritual fire of judgement.
The spiritual fire is going on right now for some of us.
It can be painful but it is part of the journey.

I agree! :up:

Plus the word of God is a light ... lack of light/word of God is darkness
PS 119:105 NUN. Thy word [is] a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
MT 4:16 The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.

Lack of God's word/light in our life is a cause for grief
MT 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

[patman]

Im not telling you what I believe about theology until you stop attacking me

Ummmm... excuse me? Who is attacking whom?

Let's recap on the many names you have called me.

"Oh my God is that you again you little far"

"Cause then I can understand why your so full of it. :loser:"

"Patman, you little monkey fart go to bed."

"Hello again Bean Brain,"

"You started it you kookoo!"

"Whats a matter you big flippin chicken head!!!"

"Except by you doo doo brain."

"I will go anywhere I want to with all my sins you stick up the patootie. "

"Patman and Stipe.....you guys should write fairy tales."

That's it so far. Can't wait to see the next uncalled for name you call me.

So, wow. And you say I am attacking you? Do you confuse an attack with a friendly rebuke? I rebuked you over making up your own religion and for selling your snake oil signs and wonders. I told you how to shed your sins. Yet all those responses because you asked. You were not being attacked by me(yet).

So far I haven't needed to attack you. You do a good job of that for me. You attack yourself! You show your flaws to us all, your inability to carry on conversations on point, your inability to relate to those around you, and your erratic behavior. What more beautiful of a job could I have done attacking you that you haven't already done to yourself?

Then, after you show how incapable you are, you still say you are qualified to create a religion for yourself that will stand against God's perfect judgement??? huh.:dunce:

When I learned you made up your own religion, I offered very honest questions I hoped you would answer. After all, if you believe Jesus was real, why not believe the books written about him in the Bible? You could have answered that.

Instead you just insist male writing leads to evil somehow(watch out ladies, I am a (pat)man after all). Male writting? Really? That's your "solid" reason to doubt something... I guess it is a good answer... that is, if you are paranoid and delusional.

But anyway.... you said I was attacking you? Yeah, I attacked you, right. You would feel attacked for no reason. It is just your way, to make up whatever you want to be true.:rolleyes:

Complaints towards you! I believe Im complaining about the whole of the antiquated system. Don't take things so personal little one. I promise to go easy on you if you want to lay out your visions of theology. There...hows that?:D

I'm not gonna tell you my theology. Really, its just because you can't carry on a conversation. It is usually fun to discuss these issues with others.... that is, when others are capable of conversing.

If you wanna know, you'll just have to find that out on your own by reading other threads. Here's a few I write on:

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38999
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36456
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34737
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25201

However, if you try to respond to me on one of these, I going to reply to you with a link to this post, so others can read about how incredibly :hammer: you are.

Plus, you think I am taking this personally?:chuckle:

How do you mean? Do you think you hurt my feelings? Do you think I really take anything you say serious enough to be offended? What reason have you given me to respect you? Why should I be personally affected? What effect do you have on me, really?

I take a slight bit of amusement from seeing the foolish expose her ways while at the same time thinking she is big and bad. Added to the humor of the situation is thought of you sitting there behind you keyboard thinking you hurt/angered my little fragile feelings and scared me away from a debate.

No one does it better than you on TOL so far!

:first: <----- there, you earned it!

I rarely give that reward away, HB. Congrats, you defiantly earned it.

I wish somehow the admin of this thread could add a permanent link to this post to your signature :) But that would be to embarrassing for you.

[Stripe]

Whoa! She's still here??!

[Humpback]

Perhaps it is time for you to try to change and not be such a loser, work on your life!

I don’t know who Boob Job is or what you mean? These are the nonsense thoughts you need to rid yourself, perhaps you will find help on TOL.

Hi Ktoyou,
Sorry about the Boob Job comment. I often throw it out there when I am not talking to warriors.:chuckle:

Work on my life?? I am. But of course.....what would you call a winner? Please explain. Perhaps I will find help on TOL. Only time will tell innit?:Plain:

[Humpback]

Ummmm... excuse me? Who is attacking whom?

Let's recap on the many names you have called me.

"Oh my God is that you again you little far"

"Cause then I can understand why your so full of it. :loser:"

"Patman, you little monkey fart go to bed."

"Hello again Bean Brain,"

"You started it you kookoo!"

"Whats a matter you big flippin chicken head!!!"

"Except by you doo doo brain."

"I will go anywhere I want to with all my sins you stick up the patootie. "

"Patman and Stipe.....you guys should write fairy tales."

That's it so far. Can't wait to see the next uncalled for name you call me.

So, wow. And you say I am attacking you? Do you confuse an attack with a friendly rebuke? I rebuked you over making up your own religion and for selling your snake oil signs and wonders. I told you how to shed your sins. Yet all those responses because you asked. You were not being attacked by me(yet).

HI YOU POMPOUS LITTLE POTATO CRACKER: Since when is REBUKE not an attack. Because your Christian you think you can say REBUKE and not have it be a full out attack. "Oh, I wasn't attacking I was rebuking." Well pardon me if I go to puking over what you call rebuking. Shed you sins. Er-ah....did you mean shed my skin?????

[QUOTE]So far I haven't needed to attack you. You do a good job of that for me. You attack yourself! You show your flaws to us all, your inability to carry on conversations on point, your inability to relate to those around you, and your erratic behavior. What more beautiful of a job could I have done attacking you that you haven't already done to yourself?

Hey JUDGE! Can I get out of jail yet. Please, I promises I will relate to those around me in a sympathetic way and not create havoc and I promises to be good in every way and also to not have erratic behavior and to not attack myself. I swear I promises.

Then, after you show how incapable you are, you still say you are qualified to create a religion for yourself that will stand against God's perfect judgement??? huh.:dunce:

I think you mean MEN's perfect judgement. Don't you? DUNCE!!! Wow....Pretty good Patman. I like that one.

When I learned you made up your own religion, I offered very honest questions I hoped you would answer. After all, if you believe Jesus was real, why not believe the books written about him in the Bible? You could have answered that.

Ahem.....I did. Do you not remembering me telling you I had a vision? Not listening ay?

Instead you just insist male writing leads to evil somehow(watch out ladies, I am a (pat)man after all). Male writting? Really? That's your "solid" reason to doubt something... I guess it is a good answer... that is, if you are paranoid and delusional.

How does it not lead to evil. Are you even reading any historical documents wonderbread? Answer me this. Was or was not the Bible written by men????????????? I say it was....isn't that solid enough. How does that make me paranoid or delusional?

But anyway.... you said I was attacking you? Yeah, I attacked you, right. You would feel attacked for no reason. It is just your way, to make up whatever you want to be true.:rolleyes:

Oh get a grip on it. What do I have to do sell you a sword. (There $2.15.) I do not make things up. Things happen to me and I decide something because of what happens to me.

I'm not gonna tell you my theology. Really, its just because you can't carry on a conversation. It is usually fun to discuss these issues with others.... that is, when others are capable of conversing.

If its so much fun discussing issues with other's what the heck you doing with me. I wager it's more fun to talk to me. At least Im not a cardboard cut-out.

If you wanna know, you'll just have to find that out on your own by reading other threads. Here's a few I write on:

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38999
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36456
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34737
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25201

However, if you try to respond to me on one of these, I going to reply to you with a link to this post, so others can read about how incredibly :hammer: you are.

Plus, you think I am taking this personally?:chuckle:

How do you mean? Do you think you hurt my feelings? Do you think I really take anything you say serious enough to be offended? What reason have you given me to respect you? Why should I be personally affected? What effect do you have on me, really?

I don't know I just thought I was fun to talk too. What affect DO I have on you really?

I take a slight bit of amusement from seeing the foolish expose her ways while at the same time thinking she is big and bad. Added to the humor of the situation is thought of you sitting there behind you keyboard thinking you hurt/angered my little fragile feelings and scared me away from a debate.

Goll Danged Dude.....you still harpen on that. That was almost 50 posts ago wasn't it? How did I scare you away? It looks like your still here. :D

[Humpback]

Whoa! She's still here??!

That's right Stipe, what was the wager? Have you won or lost yet??:Party:

[Stripe]

Given that you're still a whacko I'd say most of us lose out by default.

[patman]

Ummmm... excuse me? Who is attacking whom?

Let's recap on the many names you have called me.

"Oh my God is that you again you little far"

"Cause then I can understand why your so full of it. :loser:"

"Patman, you little monkey fart go to bed."

"Hello again Bean Brain,"

"You started it you kookoo!"

"Whats a matter you big flippin chicken head!!!"

"Except by you doo doo brain."

"I will go anywhere I want to with all my sins you stick up the patootie. "

"Patman and Stipe.....you guys should write fairy tales."

That's it so far. Can't wait to see the next uncalled for name you call me.

So, wow. And you say I am attacking you? Do you confuse an attack with a friendly rebuke? I rebuked you over making up your own religion and for selling your snake oil signs and wonders. I told you how to shed your sins. Yet all those responses because you asked. You were not being attacked by me(yet).

HI YOU POMPOUS LITTLE POTATO CRACKER: Since when is REBUKE not an attack. Because your Christian you think you can say REBUKE and not have it be a full out attack. "Oh, I wasn't attacking I was rebuking." Well pardon me if I go to puking over what you call rebuking. Shed you sins. Er-ah....did you mean shed my skin?????



Hey JUDGE! Can I get out of jail yet. Please, I promises I will relate to those around me in a sympathetic way and not create havoc and I promises to be good in every way and also to not have erratic behavior and to not attack myself. I swear I promises.



I think you mean MEN's perfect judgement. Don't you? DUNCE!!! Wow....Pretty good Patman. I like that one.



Ahem.....I did. Do you not remembering me telling you I had a vision? Not listening ay?



How does it not lead to evil. Are you even reading any historical documents wonderbread? Answer me this. Was or was not the Bible written by men????????????? I say it was....isn't that solid enough. How does that make me paranoid or delusional?


Oh get a grip on it. What do I have to do sell you a sword. (There $2.15.) I do not make things up. Things happen to me and I decide something because of what happens to me.



If its so much fun discussing issues with other's what the heck you doing with me. I wager it's more fun to talk to me. At least Im not a cardboard cut-out.



I don't know I just thought I was fun to talk too. What affect DO I have on you really?



Goll Danged Dude.....you still harpen on that. That was almost 50 posts ago wasn't it? How did I scare you away? It looks like your still here. :D

I can't easily tell who is talking because you didn't format this right.

Because of that, I am not even going to read it.

Would someone with more time tell me what I missed?

[Stripe]

Words. Lots of them.

[Humpback]

Yup, screwed that one up didn't I. Lost all your quotes. Don't know how that happened. Hmmmmm. Thinking. :kookoo:

[patman]

Words. Lots of them.

Oh good....glad i didn't miss anything:)

Hey stipe!!

I have a word for you...



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MAHNAHMAHNAH :rotfl:

[Stripe]

Oh good....glad i didn't miss anything:)Hey stipe!!I have a word for you........................MAHNAHMAHNAH :rotfl:
"Gee, patman. You shouldn't oughta have said that."

:darwinsm:

[Humpback]

What's up fella's. Want to go somewhere else and play for awhile. I know you would want me to come with you. Cause I'm sooooo much fun. :banana:

[patman]

What's up fella's. Want to go somewhere else and play for awhile. I know you would want me to come with you. Cause I'm sooooo much fun. :banana:

Yup, I thought I sent you a few theads....

I dunno what you said about them, but go to one of those.

:wave2:

[patman]

Actually... don't go to one of those, they may be to advanced for you.

[Stripe]

Is she leaving?

[patman]

Is she leaving?

naw... just moving to another thread i think....:think:

:shocked:

[Stripe]

I'll make a point of not looking for it.

[Humpback]

Hey Frick and Frack,
Aw Come Oooonnnn! You two double bubbles gotta admit I'm FUN! Wazza matta wit ya?