The Three Faiths Of Eve

[JoeWallack]

THE QUESTION:
Suppose a person has multiple personalities and only one of the personalities is Christian. What are the long-term implications for this persons’ soul according to Christianity?:

1) Does the believing personality save the entire soul?

2) Does the unbelieving personality damn the entire soul?

3) Will the soul be split in the hereafter just like it is in the present with part of it in eternal paradise and part of it in eternal damnation?


JoeWallack

"REDEMPTION, n.
Deliverance of sinners from the penalty of their sin, through their murder of the deity against whom they sinned. The doctrine of Redemption is the fundamental mystery of our holy religion, and whoso believeth in it shall not perish, but have everlasting life in which to try to understand it."

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[PureX]

Joe,

Well, having several "personalities" is not possible, so naturally the person in question is being possessed by multiple demons. I'm sure the demons could be cast out by anyone who truly believes in Jesus and the person in question will then be allowed into heaven.

*wink*

[Carl Smuda]

I agree with PureX. We could have a good time going into all the ways of talking about this psychologically and the like. Talk about inner struggles. Think of Christ ruling and no gate being strong enough to keep Him back. Eventually Christ would triumph if the example person was one of the elect.

[Aimiel]

We are spirit-beings, not mind. We are not the sum of our thoughts. That is a very low perception of what man is. A spirit has no confusion. There is no doubt in a spirit. When we are saved, our spirit comes into perfect communion with the Holy Spirit. He gives us grace. We are perfect. Then, as we grow, spiritiually-speaking, in our study and in our Christian walk, we are brought into His Image and Likeness. He loves us just like we are, and yet loves us too much to leave us that way. If we were to walk in agreement with Him, we would be taken to His Presence, as were Enoch and Elijah, the two witnesses (or candlesticks).

If we allow ourselves to be ruled by demons and have their personalities inhabiting our flesh, then we are not Christ's. If we are Christ's, the Presence of Supreme Authority overrides the previous occupant, and we are a New Creation. God is not mocked. He is present in the life of anyone who calls upon His Name, believing. We are redeemed from the previous authority, and True Authority takes hold of us.

[Jefferson]

Originally posted by Aimiel
We are not the sum of our thoughts.Wanna bet? "For as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he." (Proverbs 23:7)

[wallace]

Originally posted by JoeWallack
THE QUESTION:
Suppose a person has multiple personalities and only one of the personalities is Christian. What are the long-term implications for this persons’ soul according to Christianity?:

1) Does the believing personality save the entire soul?

2) Does the unbelieving personality damn the entire soul?

3) Will the soul be split in the hereafter just like it is in the present with part of it in eternal paradise and part of it in eternal damnation?


JoeWallack

"REDEMPTION, n.
Deliverance of sinners from the penalty of their sin, through their murder of the deity against whom they sinned. The doctrine of
Redemption is the fundamental mystery of our holy religion, and whoso believeth in it shall not perish, but have everlasting life in which to try to understand it."


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Errors_In_The_Christian_Bible



this is a fasinating question i must concede
unlike those befor me who suggest ITS DEMONS I TELL YOU ITS DEMONS, I believe it is possible to have multiple personialities
or WHAT APPEARS TO BE MULTIPLE PERSONIALITIES the human mind is so complex that it can react defencifly in strange ways
without going any further lets just say that GOD sees each person and what they have gone through and has mercy on them no matter how many personalities they have ???

[prodigalson]

If one of that persons personalities is a legit christian(born again, justified etc) than that person is saved, but could an ongoing phsizophrenic really be saved?

[kidd94]

:box:

Why ya hittin' yourself?
Why ya hittin' yourself?

:devil: :bannana:

[Aimiel]

Originally posted by Jefferson Wanna bet? "For as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he." (Proverbs 23:7) I don't bet. The thoughts taking place in a man's heart are occurring in the spirit of the man, hence my point, that the spirit of man is his guide. Our spirit-man is in perfect communion with Christ (if we are born-again) and The Holy Spirit communicates with us through him. This is what Jesus spoke about when He prayed that we may be one. He wants us to be one with Him, in our inner man, the thoughts and intents of our hearts, which is what God looks at. Our mind is un-fruitful of these things.

[Is it possible?]

Originally posted by Aimiel
I don't bet. The thoughts taking place in a man's heart are occurring in the spirit of the man, hence my point, that the spirit of man is his guide. Our spirit-man is in perfect communion with Christ (if we are born-again) and The Holy Spirit communicates with us through him. This is what Jesus spoke about when He prayed that we may be one. He wants us to be one with Him, in our inner man, the thoughts and intents of our hearts, which is what God looks at. Our mind is un-fruitful of these things.

Where have you been Aimiel? Gosh it seems like forever that you posted. Did you take a little trip or something? well we are so glad you are back with us...bwahhaaaaa:D

[Is it possible?]

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God bless!

[prodigalson]

Originally posted by kidd94
:box:

Why ya hittin' yourself?
Why ya hittin' yourself?

:devil: :bannana:

Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm a Schizophrenic and so am I. I still think that is too funny.

[One Eyed Jack]

Schizophrenia and MPD are often confused with one another, but they're not the same thing. Schizophrenics have trouble differentiating between fantasy and reality. People that suffer MPD display multiple personalities.

[Is it possible?]

Originally posted by One Eyed Jack
Schizophrenia and MPD are often confused with one another, but they're not the same thing. Schizophrenics have trouble differentiating between fantasy and reality. People that suffer MPD display multiple personalities.

Chip you are so right. I do not know why people confuse these things. I guess it takes one to know one....i am sorry that kind of slipped...

I need some NEW material.

[Is it possible?]

Originally posted by Is it possible?
Chip you are so right. I do not know why people confuse these things. I guess it takes one to know one....i am sorry that kind of slipped...

I need some NEW material.

Sorry Chip. My above statement was rather mean. I was actually thinking about something i posted a long time ago. It is so easy to make fun of people. I guess it would be much more difficult for those who actually suffered from one of these illnesses. I come here often to find that paople love to make fun of things they know nothing about. Sometimes i find it *sad. This word does have weight. I do not think I would want to be either a Schizophrenic nor a person with multiple personanlities. These types of illnesse I think would be quite scary to say the least. i do know that most people with multilpe personalities have some form of child abuse in their background.

God bless!

[One Eyed Jack]

Originally posted by Is it possible?
Chip you are so right. I do not know why people confuse these things.

Well, it doesn't help when the popular media gets it wrong.

[Jefferson]

Originally posted by Aimiel
Our mind is un-fruitful of these things. Then why does the Bible say, "be transformed by the renewing of your mind" (Romans 12:2)

[prodigalson]

Originally posted by One Eyed Jack
Schizophrenia and MPD are often confused with one another, but they're not the same thing. Schizophrenics have trouble differentiating between fantasy and reality. People that suffer MPD display multiple personalities.

Learn something new everyday.:thumb:

[Aimiel]

Originally posted by Is it possible? Where have you been Aimiel? Gosh it seems like forever that you posted. Did you take a little trip or something? well we are so glad you are back with us...bwahhaaaaa:D I have been ill. I have a herniated disc in my neck, which is giving me more pain than I can bear without large handfulls of prescription medication. I go to a neurosurgeon next week. Any and all prayer by those who call Christ, "Lord," would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ken

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[The Berean]

Originally posted by Aimiel
I don't bet. The thoughts taking place in a man's heart are occurring in the spirit of the man, hence my point, that the spirit of man is his guide. Our spirit-man is in perfect communion with Christ (if we are born-again) and The Holy Spirit communicates with us through him. This is what Jesus spoke about when He prayed that we may be one. He wants us to be one with Him, in our inner man, the thoughts and intents of our hearts, which is what God looks at. Our mind is un-fruitful of these things.

Aimiel,

Sounds like you subscribe to a trichotomous view of man. Do you believe man is body, soul, and spirit?

[Aimiel]

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[The Berean]

Originally posted by Aimiel
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Aimiel,

Can you show us Scripture to support the trichotomous view?

[Is it possible?]

Originally posted by Aimiel
I have been ill. I have a herniated disc in my neck, which is giving me more pain than I can bear without large handfulls of prescription medication. I go to a neurosurgeon next week. Any and all prayer by those who call Christ, "Lord," would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ken

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Yes Ken,

i certainly will take this to prayer for you. You have been missed. I am so sorry to hear this. Was it from a car accident? If it was not from an accident what is the cause and do they know? I will keep both you and your doctor in my prayers. Are they planning surgery? I am sorry to hear of your pain. I know you must be having a hard time sleeping. I will pray for some rest for you.

God bless you!

Please let us know if we can do anything else for you and Ken keep us posted as to your progress.

I wish I could do more...I will pray about it for you. Please take comfort in this.

[Aimiel]

Thanks, I appreciate your prayers, and those of every Christian. My healing is certainly not more important than the peace of Jerusalem, or the salvation of the lost, but please, if you care to, give me a mention to my Father; He always answers prayer.

[Is it possible?]

Originally posted by Aimiel
Thanks, I appreciate your prayers, and those of every Christian. My healing is certainly not more important than the peace of Jerusalem, or the salvation of the lost, but please, if you care to, give me a mention to my Father; He always answers prayer.

Aimiel,

You stump me. It is good to know we are not the center of the universe and that there are situations that are worse than the one we might find ourselves in but please Ken never doubt the GOD is concerned about you and every detail in your life. You are precious to HIM. I already have Ken. I have made mention of you and GOD has you in HIS sight.

God bless Ken.

[Is it possible?]

A VERY PRESENT HELP
"God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea; Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. Selah" (Psalm 46:1-3).

The modifier "very," in this verse, is a strong word. God is an intensively present helper in time of trouble, "Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid" (John 14:27). Those who hold a deistic philosophy argue that God is far away, leaving the earth and its inhabitants to work out their own evolutionary salvation after He first started it going billions of years ago. But they are wrong, for God is right here, right now! "The Lord of hosts is with us" (Psalm 46:11).

There had, indeed, been a time when the earth was removed (literally, "the ground was changed"), and even the mountains had been eroded away and washed into the oceans. The waters swelled higher and the mountains quaked until finally, in the words of the apostle Peter, "the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished" (II Peter 3:6).

This was the great Flood in the days of Noah—the greatest "trouble" in the world's history. Even then, God had provided a refuge for His people—the Ark which He instructed Noah to build. When the Flood came, "the Lord shut him in," and throughout the height of the cataclysm, "God remembered Noah, and every living thing" (Genesis 7:16; 8:1).

There are great judgments coming on the earth in future days as well (Psalm 46:6-9), when the earth itself will be melted (literally "dissolved"—see II Peter 3:10).

Again, the Lord's people in that day can still say: "The Lord of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge" (Psalm 46:7). From the beginning of creation to the end of the age, God is a very present help to His people.

devotional from cri or icr...don't quote me on this... it is WAY too early.....forgot author but can quote him if need be

[Aimiel]

Well, He heard, and answered the prayers that were offered; and my neck is just fine. I visited my wife's chiropractor, and, after fifteen visits in three weeks, found that my neck was worse than when I started. I then went to my chiropractor (who charges $50 per visit, which is why I didn't go to him first), and, after three visits, my neck was much better. After two more visits and a trip to the masseuse and 'threats' of sending me for accupuncture by Dr. Steve Bleser (my chiropractor), I feel great. I have not been back since October. Praise God!!! Thanks to everyone who prayed.

I wonder if Joe Wallack has ever met BeanieBoy, personally.