Revelation On The Holy Spirit

[Squeaky]

HOLY SPIRIT
FRUITS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
Rev 2:29 (MILK & MEAT)
29 "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."'
2 Tim 1:7
7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
Phil 1:9-11
9 And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in knowledge and all discernment,
10 that you may approve the things that are excellent, that you may be sincere and without offense till the day of Christ,
11 being filled with the fruits of righteousness which are by Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.
2 Cor 9:10
10 Now may He who supplies seed to the sower, and bread for food, supply and multiply the seed you have sown and increase the fruits of your righteousness,
1 Cor 14:20
20 Brethren, do not be children in understanding; however, in malice be babes, but in understanding be mature.
Matt 3:8
8 "Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance,
Col 1:5-6
5 because of the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, of which you heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel,
6 which has come to you, as it has also in all the world, and is bringing forth fruit, as it is also among you since the day you heard and knew the grace of God in truth;
Gal 5:22-23
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT (MILK)
1 Cor 12:4-11
4 There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
5 There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord.
6 And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all.
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all:
8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit,
9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit,
10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.
11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.
1 Cor 13:9-13
9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
1 Cor 14:20
20 Brethren, do not be children in understanding; however, in malice be babes, but in understanding be mature.
Heb 5:12-14
12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food.
13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
(NKJ)
VOICE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT (MEAT)
John 16:13-14
13 "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
14 "He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.
2 Cor 5:5
5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
James 2:26
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
James 3:17
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
1 Cor 14:7-8
7 Even things without life, whether flute or harp, when they make a sound, unless they make a distinction in the sounds, how will it be known what is piped or played?
8 For if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare himself for battle?
1 Cor 14:10-12
10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of languages in the world, and none of them is without significance.
11 Therefore, if I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be a foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks will be a foreigner to me.
12 Even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church that you seek to excel.
John 6:63
63 "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.
Gal 5:17-18
17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.
18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
James 3:17
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
(NKJ)

xxxThe milk is about 3 to 4 years long, and in that time you should know that the Holy Spirit is in you. There are 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit and you will receive one or more of them gifts as evidence that the Holy Spirit is in you. Then when you are sure, the Holy Spirit will take you into the meat of the Word one verse at a time. You should know what love is by this time. The milk took you to love and the Holy Spirit. Now the Holy Spirit will lead you with that love as the first step in the meat. And the Holy Spirit will lead you inside yourself with that love, to crucify the flesh(feelings & emotions)(unclean spirits). And this should last for atleast 11 years.

[Aimiel]

Where on earth do you get these zany ideas? :kookoo:

[Squeaky]

Dont you know the Holy Spirit only quotes verses?

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

The Holy Spirit only brings to remembrance what Jesus has ALREADY said(quoting verses)

[Goose]

Why the specific time frame?

[Squeaky]

That was the same time frame that Paul had.

Gal 1:18-19
18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and remained with him fifteen days.
19 But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord's brother.
(NKJ)

Gal 2:1
1 Then after fourteen years I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and also took Titus with me.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

:help:

Sprinkle,

You should get your medications changed. It has been too long on the ones you have, and your body has obviously rejected the calming effects they used to provide. :freak:

[Goose]

Originally posted by Squeaky
That was the same time frame that Paul had.

Gal 1:18-19
18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and remained with him fifteen days.
19 But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord's brother.
(NKJ)

Gal 2:1
1 Then after fourteen years I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and also took Titus with me.
(NKJ) So when I have questions about spiritual matters, I should probably stay with my pastor 15 days too. I should also be a tentmaker, like Paul was.

[Squeaky]

you said
So when I have questions about spiritual matters, I should probably stay with my pastor 15 days too. I should also be a tentmaker, like Paul was.

I said
I dont know about that but you better consider the example Paul set.

Phil 3:16-17
16 Nevertheless, to the degree that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us be of the same mind.
17 Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern.
(NKJ)

[OMEGA]

I know that this is your First Love.

But you need to grow into a Mature Christian .

You need Wisdom.

I suggest that you study Proverbs every day .

:thumb:

[Squeaky]

you said
I suggest that you study Proverbs every day .

I said
I've grown away past what your suggesting. Dont you know the old testament is obsolete.

[Goose]

Originally posted by Squeaky
you said
So when I have questions about spiritual matters, I should probably stay with my pastor 15 days too. I should also be a tentmaker, like Paul was.

I said
I dont know about that but you better consider the example Paul set.

Phil 3:16-17
16 Nevertheless, to the degree that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us be of the same mind.
17 Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern.
(NKJ) That's not in the context though.

[Squeaky]

You said
That's not in the context though.

I said
You lost me. What isnt in the context?

[Aimiel]

You're going to have to get back on the milk. You've missed out.

[Squeaky]

You said
You're going to have to get back on the milk. You've missed out.

I said
I'm not used to these carnal conversations. I'm used to the Holy Spirit leading a conversation.

[Aimiel]

If you were, you would be ahead of these types of things, and not behind. It is not the Holy Spirit you have been conversing with, but demons.

[Squeaky]

you said
If you were, you would be ahead of these types of things, and not behind. It is not the Holy Spirit you have been conversing with, but demons.

I said
You should read these verses very carefully before you speak against the Holy Spirit.

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

John 16:13
13 "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
(NKJ)

James 3:17
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
(NKJ)

Matt 12:31-32
31 "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
32 "Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Originally posted by Squeaky You should read these verses very carefully before you speak against the Holy Spirit.If I thought for one minute that the Holy Spirit were getting through to you, I would consider saying that you have a devil to be dangerous. He ISN'T. You need to learn, not to teach. Your errors are still egregious.

[Squeaky]

Maybe you should reconcider your discernment skills. The Holy Spirit is the one giving me these revelations.

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

No, I have not told lies and said that the Holy Spirit said them to me. That is blasphemy. Your confusion is going to lead to trouble, except you repent. I know how to discern the Holy Spirit. When He speaks, I recognize His Voice. His Word is Truth. Your have told too many lies to be accepted by someone who has the least amount of skill and training in Christianity. That would be me. I recognize that you are hearing from familiar spirits, but they are NOT holy. The Spirit of Truth lives in me.

[Squeaky]

What are you talking about. What lies? You have a wild imagination.

[Aimiel]

And the Holy Spirit will lead you inside yourself with that love, to crucify the flesh(feelings & emotions)(unclean spirits). And this should last for atleast 11 years.

The Holy Spirit only brings to remembrance what Jesus has ALREADY said(quoting verses)

Dont you know the old testament is obsolete.

[Squeaky]

I'm thinking maybe you dont know the bible as well as you think you do.

Rom 8:13-14
13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
(NKJ)

Gal 5:24-25
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions(emotions) and desires(feelings).
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
(NKJ)

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(remembrance all things that I SAID TO YOU(quoting the verses word for word)

Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
(The definition of the word covenant IS testament)

1242 diatheke (dee-ath-ay'-kay);

from 1303; properly, a disposition, i.e. (specially) a contract (especially a devisory will):

KJV-- covenant, testament.

[Aimiel]

Originally posted by Squeaky I'm thinking maybe you dont know the bible as well as you think you do.I don't think that I know anything, except Christ, and Him crucified. But I don't tell lies and claim that the Holy Spirit is speaking to me. Your demon is NOT the Holy Spirit. Your lies are not getting off the ground. You need to get some help. You need counseling; you are going to find that as you deny the help that is offered to you, that your delusions will grow stronger. Please get some help before you get worse. :shut:

[Squeaky]

you said
don't think that I know anything, except Christ, and Him crucified. But I don't tell lies and claim that the Holy Spirit is speaking to me. Your demon is NOT the Holy Spirit.

I said
Now that is an oxymoron. You claim the Holy Spirit IS NOT speaking to YOU, and yet your judging that I dont know the Holy Spirit. When people criticise in riddles they are hecklers. Are you going to be my heckler. Now I might warn you I have had some good ones.
HECKLERS (HYPOCRITES)

Gal 1:6-7
6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel,
7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.
1 Cor 11:18-19
18 For first of all, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it.
19 For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you.
1 Cor 1:10
10 Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
Matt 12:34
34 "Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
Matt 12:36-37
36 "But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.
37 "For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
John 7:18
18 "He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but he who seeks the glory of the One who sent him is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

[Is it possible?]

That reminds me squeaks.

Why don't you start a heckler thread? I think it would be a riot.

[Aimiel]

Originally posted by Squeaky You claim the Holy Spirit IS NOT speaking to YOU, and yet your judging that I dont know the Holy Spirit.Nowhere have I ever said that the Holy Spirit does not speak to me. I said that I, personally, choose to know only the fact that Christ was crucified for my sins, and to keep nothing else in mind at the moment I speak to you, because that is sufficient to be able to agree with you. Anything more, and you will find a way to disagree with me, because you don't believe the Truth: that Christ is VERY GOD, and the Holy Spirit is also VERY GOD. Our God is ONE. He is not three pieces, put together; we picture the Father, in Heaven; we had Jesus walk upon the earth; and we now have the Holy Spirit inside of us, because God longs to dwell in temples (note the plural) not made with hands. These are the three facets of God's personage which we have observed, or in the case of the Father, and the Son, been told of. The Holy Spirit bears witness in the inside of each of us of the Truth. Jesus' Words are Truth. He and the Father and the Holy Spirit are One and the Same. There is only ONE GOD, we just think of Him as different, due to our understanding. Jesus would have given the Holy Spirit to His apostles (at least) before He left the earth, if it were possible. He didn't, and I believe the only reason is that God only manifests Himself in One particular geographic position at any given moment. Maybe because He's following His Script.When people criticise in riddles they are hecklers. Are you going to be my heckler. Now I might warn you I have had some good ones.
HECKLERS (HYPOCRITES)People who criticize in riddles are trying to make you think. I could heckle you, if that is what you want. I would rather give you answers to the questions that you might have. You certainly need to have some friends, and I was trying to show you the Truth, not to heckle or to put you down. You're not going to get anywhere with your belief that the doctrine you have been espousing is from the Holy Spirit. He never contradicts the Word, and the Old Testament may be old, but I have to agree with Jack, it is Absolute, and will never be obsolete. If the spirit you are familiar with told you that the Old Testament is obsolete, he is a liar. The Holy Spirit can NOT LIE.:nono:

[Squeaky]

you said
If the spirit you are familiar with told you that the Old Testament is obsolete, he is a liar. The Holy Spirit can NOT LIE.

I said
Ok let me get this straight. The Holy Spirit is going to bring to remembrance the verses. Yes it says that. And the Holy Spirit quoted from Heb 8-13 the old covenant is obsolete. Yes that is in there. And the definition of the word "covenant" is testament from strongs dictionary. And your calling the Holy Spirit a liar. Yes you said that. I just wanted to be sure I had it down right.

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
(NKJ)

1242 diatheke (dee-ath-ay'-kay);

from 1303; properly, a disposition, i.e. (specially) a contract (especially a devisory will):

KJV-- covenant, testament.

[Aimiel]

Covenant = covenant, as in Adamic, Abrahamic, Mosaic, 'New' or Christian Covenant
Old Testament = record of the Acts of the Holy Spirit before Christ.
New Testament = record of the Acts of the Holy Spirit with Christ, and His followers.
You have confused terms, the New Testament is a record of epistles, and is the Christian's guide for this life, but only ALONG WITH the Old Testament, as well as a Body of Fellow-Believers.

[Squeaky]

Do you see the big difference between you and I?
I prove the Word says by sharing the verses the Holy Spirit gives me motivating me to speak. You dont seem to ever be motivated by the Holy Spirit. Its called Spirit led. No one can please God in the flesh.

Rom 8:5-8
5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.
8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
(NKJ)

[Is it possible?]

Squeaks,

Do you want me to come to your rescue? Can you handle it good buddy? I can if you want. Its hard to keep the pack at bay.

Gandolf,

Squeaks is one of a kind with his own unique brand of Biblical interpretation. i have often found I learn by his mistakes. he has always been good to me this way.

God bless!

your look undressed squeaks. I think you need an avatar

[philosophizer]

Squeaky,

I've been wondering, does that name have any special significance?

[Squeaky]

Well its mine, that is pretty special to me.

[Aimiel]

Originally posted by Squeaky Do you see the big difference between you and I?Yes, I am able to hear from The Holy Spirit. Your demon (who is pretending to be The Holy Spirit) tells you that I have a demon. I know better, and I know that you're in the dark.I prove the Word says by sharing the verses the Holy Spirit gives me motivating me to speak.You have proved that you don't understand the Scriptures that you quote.You dont seem to ever be motivated by the Holy Spirit.I didn't ask for your judgement of me, but you keep offering it. I only wish to let you know that you're deceived, you keep trying to hit me over the head with your so-called 'revelations' which are useless. When will you ever post anything that makes any sense at all?Its called Spirit led.Your spirit has you hog-tied, and you don't even know it.

[Squeaky]

you said
Yes, I am able to hear from The Holy Spirit. Your demon (who is pretending to be The Holy Spirit) tells you that I have a demon. I know better, and I know that you're in the dark.

I said
Now how can you know anything without the verses? I think you are delusional.

II Th 2:10-11
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

I don't care what you think, since you don't have a firm grip on reality; only upon your imaginary world, which amounts to slinging verses together, and claiming to own the only corner on truth; and you're not even able to convey what it is you claim to know. That is not only foolishness, it is insane. You need some help. You need to see a whole team of Psychiatrists.
:troll:

[Squeaky]

You shouldnt insult the Holy Spirit like that. No one can sling verses together but the Holy Spirit.

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Originally posted by Squeaky You shouldnt insult the Holy Spirit like that. No one can sling verses together but the Holy Spirit.So then, why do you keep doing it? Do you believe that you are The Holy Spirit?

[Squeaky]

Your arrogance is spilling over into your logic.

[Aimiel]

Your foolishness has spilled out all over TOL, so what's the difference?

As the truth of Christ is in me, no man shall stop me of this boasting in the regions of Achaia.


:troll:

[Squeaky]

Well I dont know about the truth being in you. I have been looking for it now for along time.

John 17:17-19
17 "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
18 "As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world.
19 "And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.
(NKJ)

In case you dont know, which I doubt if you do. The word sanctified means the washing of water by the Word. Its when one uses the verses to purge out their carnality.

1 Cor 5:7-8
7 Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Originally posted by Squeaky In case you dont know, which I doubt if you do. The word sanctified means the washing of water by the Word. Its when one uses the verses to purge out their carnality.You're making a little more sense than usual. Although the word sanctify means: "to set apart to a sacred purpose or to religious use." The washing of water by The Word is a sort of sanctification. Another meaning of the word sanctify is to free (one) from sin. Only The Blood of Jesus can do that. When we are free from sin, we become slaves to The Word. This happens because The Word is written upon our hearts. :thumb:

[Squeaky]

SANCTIFIED (THE WASHING OF WATER BY THE WORD)
John 17:17
17 "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
1 Cor 5:6-8
6 Your glorying is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?
7 Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
John 14:23-24
23 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.
24 "He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.
John 10:1
1 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
John 15:14
14 "You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.
John 15:13
13 "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends.
Matt 12:36-37
36 "But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.
37 "For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
Matt 26:28
28 "For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Eph 5:26
26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word,
Heb 5:8-9
8 though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered.
9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,
James 1:2-3
2 My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials,
3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience.
Heb 12:4
4 You have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin.
2 Cor 3:4-6
4 And we have such trust through Christ toward God.
5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God,
6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Rom 8:1
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
Heb 10:22
22 let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.
John 7:38
38 "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water."
II Th 2:1-2
1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you,
2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.
II Th 2:14
14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
II Th 3:1-3
1 Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may run swiftly and be glorified, just as it is with you,
2 and that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men; for not all have faith.
3 But the Lord is faithful, who will establish you and guard you from the evil one.
II Th 3:5
5 Now may the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God and into the patience of Christ.
1 Pet 1:1-2
1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the pilgrims of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
2 elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace to you and peace be multiplied.
Heb 10:10
10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Acts 20:32
32 "So now, brethren, I commend you to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified.
TAKE THE WORD LITERALLY

John 7:38
38 "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water."
I Jn 3:3
3 And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.
Heb 4:12-13
12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
Rev 22:18-19
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
(NKJ)
xxxSanctified is the washing of water by the Word. Puting the verses in your belief system and pushing out your carnality. Jesus said that God gave Him a command of what to say and what to speak. Jesus gave us the Word to live by. And we are to live by the same Word He did.

[Aimiel]

Originally posted by Squeaky The milk is about 3 to 4 years long, and in that time you should know that the Holy Spirit is in you. There is no basis in The Scriptures, or general consensus from The Spirit of Truth, that this is true. This is what makes it a 'doctrine of demons:' teaching that it is 'a Truth' which has been revealed by The Spirit of Truth, when, in fact, He has done nothing of the sort.There are 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit and you will receive one or more of them gifts as evidence that the Holy Spirit is in you.Then again, you may not. He gives several of the gifts, or none, but it is always done as He wills, and not as we will. I have seen eight of These nine operate in my life so far, a few of them many, many times. The biggest one in my life is The Gift of Discerning of Spirits, followed closely by The Gift of Prophecy. The only one that I have yet to see, but believe that I will, is The Gift of Miracles. Squeaky, you could fulfill that one, if you would repent. That would be a miracle, indeed.Then when you are sure, the Holy Spirit will take you into the meat of the Word one verse at a time.The 'meat' is not all written down in The Scriptures. There is, once again, no basis in The Word, nor concensus from The Holy Spirit that this is true. That makes this another doctrine of demons, if, indeed, you claim that The Spirit of Truth has 'revealed' this to you. You should know what love is by this time.We will spend the ages to come exploring the riches of God's Love, and will never come to an end of that study. The Lord is Love, and if you think that you know everything there is to know about Love, meaning everything about God, then you are deeply deluded.The milk took you to love and the Holy Spirit.Perhaps this is true, I think you are being a little simplistic, though.Now the Holy Spirit will lead you with that love as the first step in the meat.He leads us with His Presence, and He IS Love.And the Holy Spirit will lead you inside yourself with that love, to crucify the flesh(feelings & emotions)(unclean spirits). And this should last for atleast 11 years. Another doctrine of demons, which has no basis in Scripture, and is simply foolish and in deep error.

[Squeaky]

Its obvious you havent entered the kingdom of God yet.

Luke 17:20-21
20 Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation;
21 "nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you."
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Originally posted by Squeaky Its obvious you havent entered the kingdom of God yet.

Luke 17:20-21
20 Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation;
21 "nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you."
(NKJ) Squeaky, if I have, then you are demon-possessed. If I have not, you wouldn't know the difference.

[Squeaky]

If the good Lords willing spiritual reality will set in you. But when it does oh wo is you.

[Aimiel]

Squeaky, you wouldn't recognize The Holy Spirt, even if He were to bite you.

[Squeaky]

But I keep showing you anyway. I keep demonstrating with your own thoughts. Hoping one day the Spirit will talk to you so you can see who is controlling you in your mind.

[Aimiel]

All you have shown is folly. It is to your shame. Your blindness will never go away, because you say, "I see."

John 9:41
Jesus said unto them, "If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth."

Romans 1:21-23
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

[Squeaky]

Thats what I'm talking about. Your finally looking at some verses. Now all you have to do is purge out that old leaven(knowledge).

1 Cor 11:31
31 For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Originally posted by Squeaky Thats what I'm talking about. Your finally looking at some verses. Now all you have to do is purge out that old leaven(knowledge).Squeaky, I don't have any leaven. You do. I show you The Truth, and you say it does not apply to you, as if you are above it. And, by the way, the leaven that Jesus warned of is hypocracy, which is your second-greatest sin, after teaching doctrines of demons.

Luke 12:1
In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

[Squeaky]

You really dont know do you. Leaven is knowledge, carnal knowledge.

Matt 16:6-12
6 Then Jesus said to them, "Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the Sadducees."
7 And they reasoned among themselves, saying, "It is because we have taken no bread."
8 But Jesus, being aware of it, said to them, "O you of little faith, why do you reason among yourselves because you have brought no bread?
9 "Do you not yet understand, or remember the five loaves of the five thousand and how many baskets you took up?
10 "Nor the seven loaves of the four thousand and how many large baskets you took up?
11 "How is it you do not understand that I did not speak to you concerning bread?-- but to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees."
12 Then they understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Originally posted by Squeaky
You really dont know do you. Leaven is knowledge, carnal knowledge.

Matt 16:6-12
6 Then Jesus said to them, "Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the Sadducees."Why do you wish to argue with The Word of God? If He said it was 'carnal knowledge,' and not hypocracy, why is that not in The Bible? You are lying about The Word of God. Can you read Luke Chapter twelve, verse one?

Luke 12:1
In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

[Squeaky]

I'm sorry you cant see.

Mark 8:15
15 Then He charged them, saying, "Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod."
(NKJ)

Mark 8:17-18
17 But Jesus, being aware of it, said to them, "Why do you reason because you have no bread? Do you not yet perceive nor understand? Is your heart still hardened?
18 "Having eyes, do you not see? And having ears, do you not hear? And do you not remember?
(NKJ)

1 Cor 5:6-8
6 Your glorying is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?
7 Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
(NKJ)

John 17:17
17 "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

The 'leaven' that Jesus spoke of is still hypocracy, whether or not you believe it. Carnal knowledge is having intimate relations with someone. Carnal thinking is being 'in the flesh,' and you need more than an English lesson to be able to see The Word of God clearly.

Luke 12:1
In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

[Squeaky]

You couldnt have, because that is when you find out how vain the carnal language is.
Luke 17:20-21
20 Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation;
21 "nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you."
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Squeaky,

You can not even stay on one subject long enough to come to an agreement, or to be expressive at all in how you interpret The Scriptures. How do you expect that we shall continue, just at random, without any thought to or acknowledgement of your audience? It is not polite, nor is it productive at all. I am beginning to lose patience with you.

[Squeaky]

That is the difference in me and you. You read a verse and try to interpret it. I read a verse and purge my mind until the Holy Spirit uses another verse to interpret the first verse. I compare spiritual things with spiritual things. you compare spiritual things with your carnality.

1 Cor 2:13-14
13 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
(NKJ)

[Squeaky]

Everyone should know the Holy Spirit. Most dont. The Holy Spirit will never use words like "Torah, trinity, divinity, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, diety.

[Aimiel]

You really dont know do you. Leaven is knowledge, carnal knowledge.
....12 Then they understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
(NKJ)That 'doctrine' that He was speaking of was hypocracy, which seems to be a favorite doctrine of yours.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
That 'doctrine' that He was speaking of was hypocracy,

I said
I know, it is the doctrine of human wisdom. It is all you post.

[Aimiel]

No, human wisdom isn't hypocritical, it's observing and putting to use the principles The Lord shows you. You don't have basic understanding of the English language, or any language. You have mis-interpreted too many Scriptures and misconstrued too many things that others have tried to teach you, becuase your mind is darkened by the presence in your life of a demon spirit, which you've come into full agreement with.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
. You don't have basic understanding of the English language, or any language

I said
And you dont have any basic understanding of the language of the Holy Spirit.

1 Cor 2:3-7
3 I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling.
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,
(NKJ)

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

That's because He doesn't use language, being Spirit, He speaks to our spirit, which understands Him perfectly.

[Aimiel]

The natural man is un-fruitful. Your mind can't grasp spirit.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
That's because He doesn't use language, being Spirit, He speaks to our spirit, which understands Him perfectly.


I said
Your just away out there in left field aren't you. Your so far out there you cant even see the game anymore.
That is just to rediculous to reply to.

[Aimiel]

Yes, if that is your perspective, being in that ditch, way over on the wrong side of the road; I am 'out there' and I am in a dynamic relationship with The Holy Ghost, Whom you seem to know absolutely nothing about, though you claim to be the only one on this earth who does. The Holy Spirit is able to communicate more directly with us than with language or with our fallen minds; He is able to communicate directly with our spirit-man, who, if indeed he is 'born-again' is in perfect communion with The Holy Ghost.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel that is rediculous. You do have a relationship with a spirit, but if you cant explain him with the Word he isnt in the Word. Everything you want to know is in the revelation at the top of this thread. You cant be born again until you can answer all questions with verses from the Holy Spirit. That is what born again means. Born again to the Holy Spirit.

[Aimiel]

You're a liar. The Word of God says that He who says, "Jesus is Lord," as I confess over my life, can only do so by The Holy Ghost. I don't have any more responsiblity to prove The Spirit of The Lord to you than Jesus did to Satan when he told The Lord to cast himself off the cliff, and if He really were The Son of God, then God would send His Angels to rescue Him. You're tempting The Lord when you try your witchcraft on me. He is not mocked. Your revelations are darkness, and represent someone who has a complete lack of understanding of God and of the salvation that is available through His Son. Born-again means that your life is new, your whole being (spiritually) is born-again, with God's Nature infused into it. You are no longer the dead person you once were, headed for hell. Your silly ideas of answering questions by quoting verses is a doctrine of demons, and doesn't come from The Word of God. If you are born-again, then why is it that you don't know these simple and basic precepts that are taught in the primary levels of Sunday schools in Christian churches all over this world? Why is it that you're clueless about being clueless? Can you please buy a clue? Here, I'll buy you a clue: "Hey Squeaky, you're really screwed up."

[Nineveh]

You cant be born again until you can answer all questions with verses from the Holy Spirit.

all questions?

"verses from the Holy Spirit". Please define this phrase?

[Squeaky]

Nineveh Do you know what sanctified means?
It means the washing of water by the Word.

John 17:19-23
19 "And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.
20 "I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word;
21 "that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.
22 "And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one:
23 "I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.
(NKJ)

John 12:48-49
48 "He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him-- the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.
49 "For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.
(NKJ)

Eph 5:26-27
26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word,
27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Nineveh Do you know what sanctified means?
It means the washing of water by the Word.
No, it means:
1 : to set apart to a sacred purpose or to religious use : CONSECRATE
2 : to free from sin : PURIFY
3 a : to impart or impute sacredness, inviolability, or respect to b : to give moral or social sanction to
4 : to make productive of holiness or piety

Sanctification cannot occur without the washing of the water of The Word, but neither can Salvation (being born again) and sanctified doesn't mean born-again, does it? Words don't mean something different simply because you believe that they do. They mean what they mean, nothing more, nothing less. Re-writing the dictionary is a sign of a 'religious' spirit. Have you been listening to your 'religious' familiar spirit again?

[Nineveh]

Squeaky,
Had I asked you what "sanctified means" I might have read yoru post, but I didn't. I asked two very simple questions about your statement, " You cant be born again until you can answer all questions with verses from the Holy Spirit."

1. all questions?

2. "verses from the Holy Spirit". Please define this phrase?

Could you kindly answer those?

[Squeaky]

I did
Nineveh Do you know what sanctified means?
It means the washing of water by the Word.

John 17:19-23
19 "And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.
20 "I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word;
21 "that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.
22 "And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one:
23 "I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.
(NKJ)

John 12:48-49
48 "He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him-- the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.
49 "For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.
(NKJ)

Eph 5:26-27
26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word,
27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish.
(NKJ)

[Nineveh]

Ok, it appears my two questions were a little too hard for you.

"You cant be born again until you can answer all questions with verses from the Holy Spirit."

What color was my first car?

[Aimiel]

Nineveh Do you know what sanctified means?
It means the washing of water by the Word.
No, it means:
1 : to set apart to a sacred purpose or to religious use : CONSECRATE
2 : to free from sin : PURIFY
3 a : to impart or impute sacredness, inviolability, or respect to b : to give moral or social sanction to
4 : to make productive of holiness or piety

Sanctification cannot occur without the washing of the water of The Word, but neither can Salvation (being born again) and sanctified doesn't mean born-again, does it? Words don't mean something different simply because you believe that they do. They mean what they mean, nothing more, nothing less. Re-writing the dictionary is a sign of a 'religious' spirit. Have you been listening to your 'religious' familiar spirit again?

[Squeaky]

Aimiel

SANCTIFIED (THE WASHING OF WATER BY THE WORD)
John 17:17
17 "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
1 Cor 5:6-8
6 Your glorying is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?
7 Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
John 14:23-24
23 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.
24 "He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.
John 10:1
1 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
John 15:14
14 "You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.
John 15:13
13 "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends.
Matt 12:36-37
36 "But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.
37 "For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
Matt 26:28
28 "For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Eph 5:26
26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word,
Heb 5:8-9
8 though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered.
9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,
James 1:2-3
2 My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials,
3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience.
Heb 12:4
4 You have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin.
2 Cor 3:4-6
4 And we have such trust through Christ toward God.
5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God,
6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Rom 8:1
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
Heb 10:22
22 let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.
John 7:38
38 "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water."
II Th 2:1-2
1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you,
2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.
II Th 2:14
14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
II Th 3:1-3
1 Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may run swiftly and be glorified, just as it is with you,
2 and that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men; for not all have faith.
3 But the Lord is faithful, who will establish you and guard you from the evil one.
II Th 3:5
5 Now may the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God and into the patience of Christ.
1 Pet 1:1-2
1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the pilgrims of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
2 elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace to you and peace be multiplied.
Heb 10:10
10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Acts 20:32
32 "So now, brethren, I commend you to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified.
TAKE THE WORD LITERALLY

John 7:38
38 "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water."
I Jn 3:3
3 And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.
Heb 4:12-13
12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
Rev 22:18-19
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
(NKJ)
xxxSanctified is the washing of water by the Word. Puting the verses in your belief system and pushing out your carnality. Jesus said that God gave Him a command of what to say and what to speak. Jesus gave us the Word to live by. And we are to live by the same Word He did.

[Aimiel]

Aimiel

SANCTIFIED (THE WASHING OF WATER BY THE WORD)
Sanctified is the washing of water by the Word. No, sanctified means:
1 : to set apart to a sacred purpose or to religious use : CONSECRATE
2 : to free from sin : PURIFY
3 a : to impart or impute sacredness, inviolability, or respect to b : to give moral or social sanction to
4 : to make productive of holiness or piety

Sanctification cannot occur without the washing of the water of The Word, but neither can Salvation (being born again) and sanctified doesn't mean born-again, does it? Words don't mean something different simply because you believe that they do. They mean what they mean, nothing more, nothing less. Re-writing the dictionary is a sign of a 'religious' spirit. Have you been listening to your 'religious' familiar spirit again?

[Nineveh]

Aimiel,
Save your pearls :)

[Aimiel]

Yes, it is hard to kick against sticker bushes, but somebody's gotta' do it.

[Nineveh]

I can think of better ways to deal with sticker bushes:) But a human heart is by far more rebellious....

[Aimiel]

I am only trying to turn his heart toward The Lord before he's cut down and cast into the fire.

[Squeaky]

Ninevah you said
Aimiel,
Save your pearls


I said
Aimiel save your delusions.

[Nineveh]

And I asked what color my first car was, if you can't answer, you must not have meant all.

[Crow]

C'mon, Nineveh, y'all know that Squeaks cannot be troubled with showing consistancy, logic, admission of glaring contradiction, or common sense. :chuckle:

[Nineveh]

C'mon, Nineveh, y'all know that Squeaks cannot be troubled with showing consistancy, logic, admission of glaring contradiction, or common sense. :chuckle:


I guess I just need to drop him a benefit of the doubt every once a year or so to see if things have changed any :)

[Crow]

Yup. You know it's getting slow in this place when we stoop to trying to reason with the Squeaks.

[Aimiel]

Aimiel save your delusions.If I were deluded, I might be subject to finding agreement with someone who is lost, like yourself, and agree together with you that The Word of God is a lie.

[Nineveh]

Yup. You know it's getting slow in this place when we stoop to trying to reason with the Squeaks.


:ha:

[Squeaky]

We are all consistant in here. I keep posting the Word of God. And you keep giving me your opinion.

[Aimiel]

We are all consistant in here. I keep posting the Word of God. And you keep giving me your opinion.I post doctrines of demons, and you explain that they don't align with The Word of God, so you don't believe that my demon's name is holyspirit.

Squeaky,

I don't disagree with The Word of God. It is because I understand what I read that I know that the things you believe are doctrines of demons. It is because you believe that demon is an angel of light that you think I'm against you. I'm not. I'm only against those who oppose My Heavenly Father.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
Originally Posted by Squeaky

We are all consistant in here. I keep posting the Word of God. And you keep giving me your opinion.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Squeaky Really Meant:

I post doctrines of demons, and you explain that they don't align with The Word of God, so you don't believe that my demon's name is holyspirit.

I said
Its apparent that you dont know what guile is. What you done here is guile. I guess you also dont know guile is a sin.

2 Cor 12:16
16 But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile.
(KJV)

1 Pet 2:21-22
21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
(KJV)

[Aimiel]

I spoke truth, once again, and you call me a liar. I honestly told you what you're doing and you denied it, using The Word of God to try to validate your lies. You hold The Truth in un-righteousness. You need to get saved.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
I spoke truth, once again, and you call me a liar.

I said
I wouldnt have went that far. But I do think you need some kind of help on getting back to reality.

[Aimiel]

Yes, I've wandered too far out here into fairytale land to try to chase you back to the fold. I'm about to give up, because you've worn out my patience with your stubborn heathen heresy.

[Squeaky]

I suggest when you take this rest your talking about that you find out what believe means. And the Word of God means. And what your own opinion means.

[Aimiel]

I suggest when you take this rest your talking about that you find out what believe means. And the Word of God means. And what your own opinion means.You must be listening to a demon, because I haven't mentioned any 'rest' at all. You're delusional and deceived.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
I'm about to give up,

I said
You need the rest.

[Aimiel]

You don't know what I need, any more than you know what Squeaky needs. You need to repent and be saved.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
You don't know what I need, any more than you know what Squeaky needs

I said
I know what everyone needs. The Holy Spirit.

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

2 Cor 5:5
5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

I know what everyone needs. The Holy Spirit.No, every man has been given the measure of faith. God sent The Holy Ghost into the world, to convict men of sin, righteousness and judgement. The Holy Ghost is available. What many need to do is to seek Him, with all of their heart, so that they find Him. He is available to everyone, but will only be found by those who seek Him. What men need is to seek Him. He allows whatever it takes to happen to men so that they are driven to their knees. Whether or not they seek Him, is a different story.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
Whether or not they seek Him, is a different story.


I said
Then when are you going to start.

[Aimiel]

Squeaky,

I seek Him every day. You need to seek Him for salvation, so that you don't remain lost.

[truebeliever7]

No, every man has been given the measure of faith. God sent The Holy Ghost into the world, to convict men of sin, righteousness and judgement. The Holy Ghost is available. What many need to do is to seek Him, with all of their heart, so that they find Him. He is available to everyone, but will only be found by those who seek Him. What men need is to seek Him. He allows whatever it takes to happen to men so that they are driven to their knees. Whether or not they seek Him, is a different story.


well have youfound the Holy Spirit yet? andif youdid where did you find Him and how does He communicate with you? and instead of an opinion see if you can back up your claim with verses.

1 Cor 2:9-15
9 But as it is written: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
13 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.
(NKJ)

[truebeliever7]

No, every man has been given the measure of faith. God sent The Holy Ghost into the world, to convict men of sin, righteousness and judgement. The Holy Ghost is available. What many need to do is to seek Him, with all of their heart, so that they find Him. He is available to everyone, but will only be found by those who seek Him. What men need is to seek Him. He allows whatever it takes to happen to men so that they are driven to their knees. Whether or not they seek Him, is a different story.


well have you found the Holy Spirit yet? and if youdid where did you find Him and how does He communicate with you? and instead of an opinion see if you can back up your claim with verses.

here are mine:

1 Cor 2:9-15
9 But as it is written: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
13 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.
(NKJ)


John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)


John 16:7-14
7 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.
8 "And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 "of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
10 "of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;
11 "of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
12 "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
13 "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
14 "He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

well have youfound the Holy Spirit yet? andif youdid where did you find Him and how does He communicate with you? and instead of an opinion see if you can back up your claim with verses.I found Him, but not because of any church or program. I sought Him with all of my heart when my wife of 21 years told me she wanted a divorce. We had four sons, and I knew that would be devastating to them. The youngest was 11 and the oldest was 21. When I sought for Him with all of my heart I began to see through 'religious' people and saw how empty and phoney their lives were. I found God by listening to Him and by following His Instructions. He communicates with me in many ways. The most frequent is by prophecy, and He has never spoken to me by using 'verses' unless it is to help me to study and to understand more about Him. Thinking that you have found some way to draw a line that you believe God can't cross is foolish. God isn't limited to speaking only in verses, printed in The New Testament, no matter how much you believe that He is. The Bible doesn't say, "...only," when referring to The Holy Spirit reminding the apostles of what Jesus said; and The Holy Spirit would be prohibited from revealing the future and that just isn't possible, because Jesus told us otherwise. The Holy Spirit can say whatever The Father gives Him to say, and does so, as He wills, since He is God, as much as The Son and The Father are.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
. He communicates with me in many ways. The most frequent is by prophecy, and He has never spoken to me by using 'verses' unless it is to help me to study and to understand more about Him.

I said
You just explained someone in the milk. Prohesy is a milk gift. The Holy Spirit quoting all the verses is in the meat.

[Aimiel]

Aimiel you said
. He communicates with me in many ways. The most frequent is by prophecy, and He has never spoken to me by using 'verses' unless it is to help me to study and to understand more about Him.

I said
You just explained someone in the milk. Prohesy is a milk gift. The Holy Spirit quoting all the verses is in the meat.No, I answered the question that you asked, someone who is 'in the milk' understanding of The Word of God is someone about three or four levels above yourself, who has submitted to the truths of Scriptures for salvation, and is learning about the basic principles. Prophecy is not related to meat or milk understanding, but is given by The Holy Ghost as He wills, to those who need to hear from Him, and will receive the prophecy. The Holy Spirit quotes verses to someone who is in need of The Sincere Milk of The Word of God, but not everyone. Some people, such as yourself, for instance, have never heard His Voice, but pretend that they have and that God has revealed 'private' things to them, because they're so 'special' but all that is is a lie and a doctrine of a demon. The Word of God says there is no private interpretation of Scripture, and God gives revelation to His Children not because they work and become worthy, but because of His Grace.

[truebeliever7]

I found Him, but not because of any church or program. I sought Him with all of my heart when my wife of 21 years told me she wanted a divorce. We had four sons, and I knew that would be devastating to them. The youngest was 11 and the oldest was 21. When I sought for Him with all of my heart I began to see through 'religious' people and saw how empty and phoney their lives were. I found God by listening to Him and by following His Instructions. He communicates with me in many ways. The most frequent is by prophecy, and He has never spoken to me by using 'verses' unless it is to help me to study and to understand more about Him. Thinking that you have found some way to draw a line that you believe God can't cross is foolish. God isn't limited to speaking only in verses, printed in The New Testament, no matter how much you believe that He is. The Bible doesn't say, "...only," when referring to The Holy Spirit reminding the apostles of what Jesus said; and The Holy Spirit would be prohibited from revealing the future and that just isn't possible, because Jesus told us otherwise. The Holy Spirit can say whatever The Father gives Him to say, and does so, as He wills, since He is God, as much as The Son and The Father are.

so how do you know its the Holy Spirit and not your own thought s being manipulated. scripture specifically states that the Holy Spirit will bring to remembrance the things Jesus said to us.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

it is a sure guarantee when you pray about a question or situation and the verses come to yout it is Gods Holy Spirit answering you. you believe the verses as they are written and let the Holy Spirit put them in context to your question and that is the guarantee. the only way the verses can be manipulated is by man adding his words of so called wisdom to the.

scripture talks about other gifts but when that which is perfect has come (the Word) then that which is in part is done away

1 Cor 12:7-11
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all:
8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit,
9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit,
10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.
11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.
(NKJ)

but just remember this verse
1 Cor 13:8-13
8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away.
9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
(NKJ)

Jesus and His Word is what is perfect and when we have recieved that than we no longer need the rest.
2 Cor 12:1
1 It is doubtless not profitable for me to boast. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord:
(NKJ)

the verses are the key it doesnt say versesin the bible but 2+2 =4 you tell me what the new testament is made up of? I would alot rather be obediant to Gods Word than some opinion formulated by man with mans knowledge and track record for making a mess of everyhting he touches. with his wisdom.. it hasnt steered me wrong yet.

read these verses and youtell me,

1 Cor 2:9-15
9 But as it is written: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
13 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.
(NKJ)

the only!! thing we have to judge spiritually with is the Word of God that Jesus brought to us, anything else is flawed and can be manipulated.

[HisLight]

What a weird thread.

[Squeaky]

thats what I thought after some of the replies. It seemed they didnt want to trade talents they just wanted their opinion in lights.

[Aimiel]

It seemed they didnt want to trade talents they just wanted their opinion in lights.Squeaky, you liar; you're the one that said that you don't care about me, you just talk to me to keep your threads at the top of the 'active' list. If you don't remember, I can post links to those posts where you said that several times. :shocked:

[Aimiel]

so how do you know its the Holy Spirit and not your own thought s being manipulated.Excellent question. The Word of God tells us that we need to try the spirits, and that a spirit which does not confess that Christ is come in The Flesh is not from God. He confess not only that Christ is come, in The Flesh, but manifests His Presence as He wills, through me and others who are Spirit-Filled. He speaks and operates in The Authority of God, and will reveal what needs to be done to destroy the works of the devil. Everything that He says and does always lines up with The Word of God, and not just misunderstood and mis-quoted portions of it.scripture specifically states that the Holy Spirit will bring to remembrance the things Jesus said to us.Scriptue specifically states many things, but making a doctrine which contains rules or adding words to The Scriptures isn't what God wants us to do. He would have said, "...He will only speak words that I have spoken, and that others have witnessed me saying, and written down..." if He wanted us to think that was all that He was 'able' to do. The Word of God doesn't say the word 'only' in John 14:26. If It did, I wouldn't have so much of a problem with your interpretation of It. He also told us that He would tell us of things to come. That means that He will be able to reveal the future to us. How could He do that if He was limited to quoting only New Testament verses? Whenever someone takes The Word of God and makes a tradition out of it, which violates The Spirit, The Theme or The Letter (or all three for that matter) of The Word of God, you find error. That's what Jesus ran into when he taught people that the religious hypocrites of their day were forcing people to wash their hands after this and before doing that. They had made up a tradition which violated all three (Spirit, theme and letter of The Word of God) and they didn't realize it, since they thought that only they were righteous. Jesus showed them that because they said they could see just fine (when in fact they were blind) that their sin would remain. When you have your mind darkened it is hard to see The Light, because you think that if it isn't coming out of your mouth it just can't be 'exactly' right. The problem is, people don't realize that none of us have all of it right, or we'd already be in Heaven.it is a sure guarantee when you pray about a question or situation and the verses come to yout it is Gods Holy Spirit answering you.No, not if what you've been led to believe is in violation of God's Spirit, Theme or The Letter of The Word (verses considered within their original context).you believe the verses as they are written and let the Holy Spirit put them in context to your question and that is the guarantee.Yes, but you also have to rightly divide The Word of Truth. Satan will try to steer anyone away from The Truth that he can, and is perfectly capable of quoting New Testament verses, just as he did Old Testament verses. By the way, he didn't quote The Old Testament, he perverted it when he tempted Christ, much like Squeaky perverts what he quotes.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
Scriptue specifically states many things, but making a doctrine which contains rules or adding words to The Scriptures isn't what God wants us to do. He would have said, "...He will only speak words that I have spoken, and that others have witnessed me saying, and written down..." if He wanted us to think that was all that He was 'able' to do. The Word of God doesn't say the word 'only' in John 14:26. If It did, I wouldn't have so much of a problem with your interpretation of It.

I said
Have you read John 14-26????

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

The Holy Spirit will only bring to remembrance(by quoting) what Jesus HAS ALREADY SAID TO YOU. The only time Jesus is speaking to you is when your reading the new testament.

[Aimiel]

Have you read John 14-26????

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

The Holy Spirit will only bring to remembrance(by quoting) what Jesus HAS ALREADY SAID TO YOU. The only time Jesus is speaking to you is when your reading the new testament.I'm sorry, but you're mistaken. The Word of God does not say the word, "...only..." in that verse. The word of Squeaky does, but it doesn't agree with The Word of God. Please repent of adding words and perverting the meaning of God's Word, lest He judge you, so that His Lambs aren't harmed by your false teaching. :sheep:

[Aimiel]

It seemed they didnt want to trade talents they just wanted their opinion in lights.Squeaky, you liar; you're the one that said that you don't care about me, you just talk to me to keep your threads at the top of the 'active' list. If you don't remember, I can post links to those posts where you said that several times. :shocked:

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
Squeaky, you liar; you're the one that said that you don't care about me, you just talk to me to keep your threads at the top of the 'active' list.

I said
That is a lie. Because I talk to you because you reply to my threads. I said I cant get mad at you because you keep my threads at the top of the list.

[Clete]

Dont you know the Holy Spirit only quotes verses?

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

The Holy Spirit only brings to remembrance what Jesus has ALREADY said(quoting verses)
Satan quoted verses of Scripture as well...

Matthew 4:5 Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written:
‘ He shall give His angels charge over you,’

and,

‘In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’”
How do you know that it is the Holy Spirit talking to you and not Satan deceiving you like every sane Christian you've ever prestented this nonsense too has been telling you for years?

Resting in Him,
Clete

[Squeaky]

satan only quotes old testament.

Ps 91:12
12 In their hands they shall bear you up, lest you dash your foot against a stone.
(NKJ)

[koban]

satan only quotes old testament.

Ps 91:12
12 In their hands they shall bear you up, lest you dash your foot against a stone.
(NKJ)



:darwinsm: Stop it Squeaky, you're killing me! :darwinsm:

Oh, that's a good one! :chuckle:



You realize, of course, that the new testament figures, including Jesus, only quoted old testament verses.

Give it a think for a minute and see if you can't figure out why. :think:

[koban]

Where on earth do you get these zany ideas? :kookoo:



I see you've been at this a while! :freak:

So I probably shouldn't expect Squeaky to sober up anytime soon then?


Gotta admit, it's impressive. Staying drunk for three whole years!

[koban]

Ok, it appears my two questions were a little too hard for you.

"You cant be born again until you can answer all questions with verses from the Holy Spirit."

What color was my first car?



:darwinsm:


I love you, Ninevah!

:BRAVO:

[Clete]

satan only quotes old testament.

Ps 91:12
12 In their hands they shall bear you up, lest you dash your foot against a stone.
(NKJ)
As Koban pointed out, Jesus as well as every other person in the Bible, if they quoted Scripture at all, they did so from the Old Testament.

Are you saying that Jesus and Satan are the same guy or is there some other way you have of determining who it is that is speaking to you in the this mystery language?

This is a serious question by they way.

Resting in Him,
Clete

[Squeaky]

I dont even understand the accusation.

[Clete]

I dont even understand the accusation.
You equate quoting the Old Testament with being Satan but ignore the fact that Jesus quoted the Old Testament almost incessantly. So your test doesn't hold up because by your own test we would have to conclude that Jesus was Satan, which is obviously not so.

So I ask you again, how do you know that it is the Holy Spirit speaking to you and not Satan or a demon?

Resting in Him,
Clete

[Squeaky]

you said
You equate quoting the Old Testament with being Satan

I said
Boy your understanding needs alot of help. Jesus because satan can quote the old testament that in no way means he is the only one that does it. that is what is called a gross exaggeration.

[Clete]

you said
You equate quoting the Old Testament with being Satan

I said
Boy your understanding needs alot of help. Jesus because satan can quote the old testament that in no way means he is the only one that does it. that is what is called a gross exaggeration.
You're the one who proposed it as a test, not me! I agree that it's the stupidest excuse for a test that I've ever heard of.

I ask you for a third time now, how do you know that it is the Holy Spirit speaking to you and not Satan or a demon?

Resting in Him,
Clete

[Squeaky]

you said
I ask you for a third time now, how do you know that it is the Holy Spirit speaking to you and not Satan or a demon?

I said
I couldnt get past your first logic to get to this one. But its experiance, experiance, experiance.

[Clete]

you said
I ask you for a third time now, how do you know that it is the Holy Spirit speaking to you and not Satan or a demon?

I said
I couldnt get past your first logic to get to this one. But its experiance, experiance, experiance.
Does the Holy Spirit not know how to spell or is that just you?

And "experiance, experiance, experiance" is not an answer. Being spoken too by the Holy Spirit is an experience and being spoken to by demons would equally qualify as an experience, so simply saying you've had repeated experiences does exactly nothing to answer my question. How do you know that the experiences you've had were with the Holy Spirit and not Satan or a demon?

Resting in Him,
Clete

[Squeaky]

you said
Being spoken too by the Holy Spirit is an experience and being spoken to by demons would equally qualify as an experience,

I said
Havent you separated your thoughts yet???? I guess not.

[Clete]

you said
Being spoken too by the Holy Spirit is an experience and being spoken to by demons would equally qualify as an experience,

I said
Havent you separated your thoughts yet???? I guess not.
What?

Answer the question. How do you know that the experience of being spoken to by the Holy Spirit isn't actually the experience of being spoken to by Satan or a demon? How do you know? It should be an easy question to answer if what you are saying is true. Simply answer the question and stop trying to weasle out of it.

Resting in Him,
Clete

[Squeaky]

you said
Answer the question. How do you know that the experience of being spoken to by the Holy Spirit isn't actually the experience of being spoken to by Satan or a demon? How do you know?

I said
Look I know this is over your head, so why do you want to get into it. If you havent separated your thoughts yet you cant comprehend it. Satan is the wrath of God, Jesus is the righteousness of God. They dont do each others works.

Matt 12:25-28
25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.
26 "If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?
27 "And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges.
28 "But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.
(NKJ)

And the devil does all the deceptions. Its simple do you question every thought in your mind???

2 Cor 3:5
5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God,
(NKJ)

Or do you think that all your thoughts are coming from you??

2 Cor 10:4-5
4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
(NKJ)

[Clete]

you said
Answer the question. How do you know that the experience of being spoken to by the Holy Spirit isn't actually the experience of being spoken to by Satan or a demon? How do you know?

I said
Look I know this is over your head, so why do you want to get into it. If you havent separated your thoughts yet you cant comprehend it. Satan is the wrath of God, Jesus is the righteousness of God. They dont do each others works.

Matt 12:25-28
25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.
26 "If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?
27 "And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges.
28 "But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.
(NKJ)

And the devil does all the deceptions. Its simple do you question every thought in your mind???

2 Cor 3:5
5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God,
(NKJ)

Or do you think that all your thoughts are coming from you??

2 Cor 10:4-5
4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
(NKJ)


You keep making my arguments for me!

"...the devil does all the deceptions". How do you know you haven't been deceived?

Nothing you've said so far comes remotely close to answering this question. How do you know, that's all I'm asking you. Simply answer that single question. I don't care about all this other mumbo jumbo. I haven’t asked you anything about casting out demons in the name of Satan, or anything like that. My firm belief is that you have been deceived and are yourself deceiving those around you in like manner. I know that you cannot establish a syllable of what you claim Biblically and, as I suspected that you would, have instead resorted to experience as you basis for truth in leu of the word of God.
You are a false prophet, a false teacher, and in league (whether intentionally or otherwise) with those principalities and powers which appose God by playing the imposter. You are a fool and a liar and it is has been my goal today to present you as just that. I believe my goal has been accomplished already but if you would like to try again to answer my question then I would love to see it.

Resting in Him,
Clete

[Squeaky]

Do you want me to show you how rediculous your questions are????
You cant prove to me on the enternet that your even human. Now can you??? You cant even prove to me that you know who you are on the enternet. havent you learned the limitations of the enternet yet. So what you do is just ask foolish questions to look important. It doesnt work.

[koban]

Guess he can't answer you Clete. :think:

[Clete]

Do you want me to show you how rediculous your questions are????
You cant prove to me on the enternet that your even human. Now can you??? You cant even prove to me that you know who you are on the enternet. havent you learned the limitations of the enternet yet. So what you do is just ask foolish questions to look important. It doesnt work.
As a matter of fact I can know for certain that I am human and that the internet is not only a real thing but that this forum exists on that very network. If you're interested in how that is possible, I recommend reading the current Battle Royale. But none of that is even in question unless you are making the affirmative statement that you cannot know anything in which case I would simply ask you to explain how you know that and why are you here trying to convince me of something you admit that you do not know.
But the bottom line is that I am not asking you to answer an epistemological question but simply a theological one. All I am asking you to answer is how you know that you haven't been decieved by him whom the New Testament Scriptures say presents himself as an angel of light?


2 Corinthians 11:12 But what I do, I will also continue to do, that I may cut off the opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the things of which they boast. 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

Resting in Him,
Clete

[Squeaky]

you said
As a matter of fact I can know for certain that I am human

I said
Prove it to me.

[Clete]

you said
As a matter of fact I can know for certain that I am human

I said
Prove it to me.
Not until you tell me how you know that when you think the Holy Spirit is speaking that it isn't really Satan or a demon.

[Squeaky]

I told you how I know. But there is no way you can prove to me. So why even try.

[Clete]

I told you how I know.
No you didn't! That's what this whole conversation has been about! The only attempt you've even made at a direct answer turned out to be, by your own admition, utter stupidity.

But there is no way you can prove to me. So why even try.
You will not succeed in baiting me. Hilston has already provided the proof you think is impossible in the Battle Royale which I recommened you read when you first brought this up. That's as close to an answer that you are going to get until you provide a coherent explanation as to how you know that it is the Holy Spirit talking with you and not Satan or a demon.

Resting in Him,
Clete

[journeyman]

No you didn't! That's what this whole conversation has been about! The only attempt you've even made at a direct answer turned out to be, by your own admition, utter stupidity.


You will not succeed in baiting me. Hilston has already provided the proof you think is impossible in the Battle Royale which I recommened you read when you first brought this up. That's as close to an answer that you are going to get until you provide a coherent explanation as to how you know that it is the Holy Spirit talking with you and not Satan or a demon.

Resting in Him,
Clete

You're just wasting your time and spiritual effort on this one, Clete.
"...this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting." Matthew 17:21.

For anyone to engage in "Marcion think" is just a couple french fries and a piece of cheese short of a happy meal.
" And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet." Matthew 10:14.

Ol' Squeaks' even doubts whether you're human and then demands that the burden of proof rest with you!! He demands of you what he can't prove himself to be! Incredible to say the least. If we aren't "human", then who/what does he "think" he's attempting to communicate with?! Probably just another one of those "voices" he keeps hearing in the crowd that gathers and hangs out in the place where the grey matter used to be.

Hey Squeaks! It's time to come in out of the :rain:

Peace.

[Squeaky]

you said
That's as close to an answer that you are going to get until you provide a coherent explanation as to how you know that it is the Holy Spirit talking with you and not Satan or a demon.

I said
I gave you the answer and yet you still ask the same question. That is what I was trying to show you. Your not perceptive. You dont seem to understand the answers. And that is only because you ask foolish questions that cant be answered on an enternet. There is nothing you can say to me to convince me that you know your a human on the enternet. That is one of the down falls of the net.
There is nothing I can say to you to convince you that I know the Spirit is speaking to me if you choose to ignore the answer.
Jesus said it very plan but you chose to ignore it. Jesus doesnt do the works of satan, and satan doesnt do the works of Jesus. And the Holy Spirit doesnt quote from satan. And satan doesnt quote from Jesus.

Matt 12:25-28
25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.
26 "If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?
27 "And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges.
28 "But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Squeaky,

If Satan could convince someone that The Word of God is a lie and keep them from being any use to God, and even cause some of God's lambs to miss out on salvation by quoting New Testament Scriptures to them, would he do it?

[Clete]

you said
That's as close to an answer that you are going to get until you provide a coherent explanation as to how you know that it is the Holy Spirit talking with you and not Satan or a demon.

I said
I gave you the answer and yet you still ask the same question. That is what I was trying to show you. Your not perceptive. You dont seem to understand the answers. And that is only because you ask foolish questions that cant be answered on an enternet. There is nothing you can say to me to convince me that you know your a human on the enternet. That is one of the down falls of the net.
Only humans know that the internet exists you idiot. My purpose here has been accomplished, and you're a theological brain fart the stench of which I can no longer tollerate.

:wave2:

[koban]

Only humans know that the internet exists you idiot. My purpose here has been accomplished, and you're a theological brain fart the stench of which I can no longer tollerate.

:wave2:



SMACK!

:darwinsm:

How'd you get that past the filters? :darwinsm:

[Squeaky]

Koban you said
Only humans know that the internet exists you idiot

I said
I see I hit that guilt nerve. And to show you whos an idiot. Computers are programmed to know the internet exists.