Revelation On The Meat understanding

[Squeaky]

MEAT (SOLID FOOD)(DOER OF THE WORD)(APOSTLE)

John 4:34
34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
(KJV)
Luke 9:62
62 But Jesus said to him, "No one, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God."
Luke 6:46-47
46 "But why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do the things which I say?
47 "Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like:
Heb 5:13-6:3
13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
1 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,
2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3 And this we will do if God permits.
James 2:17-18
17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, "You have faith, and I have works." Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.
James 2:26
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Phil 4:9
9 The things which you learned and received and heard and saw in me, these do, and the God of peace will be with you.
1 Cor 14:20
20 Brethren, do not be children in understanding; however, in malice be babes, but in understanding be mature.
Matt 13:11
11 He answered and said to them, "Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.
Matt 13:16-17
16 "But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear;
17 "for assuredly, I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
Matt 11:12-13
12 "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force.
13 "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
1 Cor 13:8-11
8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away.
9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
1 Cor 2:12
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
1 Cor 2:14-15
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.
1 Cor 2:13
13 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1 Cor 2:9-10
9 But as it is written: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
Gal 5:24-25
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Gal 5:1
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
Gal 5:4
4You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
1 Pet 1:13-15
13 Therefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and rest your hope fully upon the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
14 as obedient children, not conforming yourselves to the former lusts, as in your ignorance;
15 but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct,
Gal 1:12
12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Rom 16:25
25 Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began
Matt 13:35
35 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying: "I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things kept secret from the foundation of the world."
Luke 8:17
17 "For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light.
1 Cor 6:12
12 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
Luke 6:47
47 "Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like:
2 Pet 2:20-22
20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning.
21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them.
22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire."
Heb 2:1-3
1 Therefore we must give the more earnest heed to the things we have heard, lest we drift away.
2 For if the word spoken through angels proved steadfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just reward,
3 how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by those who heard Him,
(NKJ)

Heb 6:1-2
1 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,
2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
(NKJ)
Heb 5:14
14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil
Matt 8:11-12
11 "And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
12 "But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

ELEVEN MORE YEARS IN THE MEAT TO COME TO REVELATIONS
Gal 2:1-2
1 Then after fourteen years I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and also took Titus with me.
2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated to them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to those who were of reputation, lest by any means I might run, or had run, in vain.
Rom 6:8-10
8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him,
9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him.
10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.
(NKJ)

xxxThere is a milk and a meat understanding to every verse. This is why we shouldnt be fighting one another over what a verse means. It is sad to me to see people arguing over what a verse means. One could have the milk understanding and one could have the meat understanding. I have been through them both and know from experiance that both meanings are necassary. But with out knowing of the milk and the meat to many just want to try to prove someone wrong. Which is the wrong spirit to be sharing the Word of God.

[Berean Todd]

WARNING!! WARNING!! THE ABOVE POST WHICH STARTED THIS THREAD IS STILL TOTALLY UNREADABLE. AFTER REPEATED SUGGESTIONS, FROM AT LEAST 4 OR 5 OF THE FREQUENT POSTERS HERE, FOR WAYS TO BETTER ORGANIZE HIS THREADS THIS PERSON STILL IGNORES ALL REQUESTS TO TRY AND ORGANIZE ANY RATIONAL THOUGHT PATTERNS. THIS POSTER DOESN'T CARE ENOUGH ABOUT YOU OR HIS SUBJECT MATTER TO PUT ANY TIME INTO MAKING HIS THOUGHTS LEGIBLE OR READABLE. PLEASE MOVE ALONG FOLKS!!

[Squeaky]

Apparently you have never communicated with the Holy Spirit. But the Holy Spirit is the teacher and He only quotes verses. What you are doing is witnessing to your own ignorance of the Word.

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

John 3:34
34 "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.
(NKJ)

[Poly]

Squeaky,
Ask the majority of people here what they do when they come across lengthy posts with nothing but scripture and no personal comments or statement about the verses? After the first few sentences (if they get that far) it's "click" and off to something else.

[Squeaky]

That is why I thank God that as a christian I dont have to worry about convinceing anyone of anything. All I have to do is witness. And share what the Spirit gives me. Lets face it even Jesus only got through to eleven people in His whole ministry.

[Poly]

Originally posted by Squeaky
That is why I thank God that as a christian I dont have to worry about convinceing anyone of anything. All I have to do is witness. And share what the Spirit gives me. Lets face it even Jesus only got through to eleven people in His whole ministry.
How effective would Jesus have been if he only quoted scripture. He quoted plenty and He had plenty to say about it. You find the same thing with the Apostle Paul.

[Squeaky]

I think you misunderstand scripture. Everything Jesus spoke was and is scripture. Everything in the new testament is scripture.

John 12:48-49
48 "He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him-- the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.
49 "For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Originally posted by Squeaky MEAT (SOLID FOOD)(DOER OF THE WORD)(APOSTLE)
There is a milk and a meat understanding to every verse.Why is it that you never share any of this meat? Do you have any?But with out knowing of the milk and the meat to many just want to try to prove someone wrong. Which is the wrong spirit to be sharing the Word of God. We aren't trying to show anyone that you are wrong, Squeaky, except you. Everyone else already knows.

[Squeaky]

you said
We aren't trying to show anyone that you are wrong

I said
Get real. You have to prove me wrong, or you are wrong. And you have away to much pride to do that. Dont worry I understand your spirits, I have been dealing with them in other people for many years. Take a look at all the nay sayers in the word of God. The Pharisees, the sadducees, the scribes, the hypocrites. None of them had a message either but they spent all their time trying to pick holes in Christs message and the apostles messages. They done the same thing you do. All in the name of hypocrisy also.

[Aimiel]

Squeaky,

When anyone proves you wrong, you clam up or ignore the post altogether. Why do you think that so many people have given up trying to communicate with you? It is because you have a 'holier-than-thou' attitude, and are un-teachable.

[Squeaky]

I am not here to demonstrate myself, just the Holy Spirit. And He is Holy.

Eph 1:4
4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love,
(NKJ)

1 Pet 1:15-16
15 but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct,
16 because it is written, "Be holy, for I am holy."
(NKJ)

Rev 22:11
11 "He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still."
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Originally posted by Squeaky I am not here to demonstrate myself, just the Holy Spirit. And He is Holy.When does your demonstration begin?

[Squeaky]

its only for those who can see.

John 12:40
40 "He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, lest they should see with their eyes, lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, so that I should heal them."
(NKJ)

[Squeaky]

The meat is for those who are looking for the guarantee of salvation. The meat is the doers of the Word. Like crucifying their flesh with its emotions and feelings. Bringing every thought to agreement with the Holy Spirit and verses.

[Adambassador]

So when it says that "Jesus wept", it's saying more than one thing?

Wow, that's incredibly deep.

[Spin~ello(h)]

Every verse has more than one meaning
Milk is food provided by a mother,to its child.
Meat is the flesh of a milk producer.

Milk meanings are for the controled."For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe."

Meat meanings are for the CONTROLERS!

[Aimiel]

God doesn't release His Children from bondage to the law only to be bound by foolish men who think they are smarter than God. Whom The Son sets free is free indeed. Where The Spirit of The Lord is, there is liberty. If you wish to control someone, control yourself. Stop twisting The Word of God to your own meanings and let The Word of God release you from your bondage to your flesh. Get saved. Repent. God knows you need it.

[Spin~ello(h)]

God doesn't release His Children from bondage to the law
So his children are under bondage!you prove my point!

only to be bound by foolish men who think they are smarter than God
I have not asked for anything.
Your god asks for submission,it is his mission.

Where The Spirit of The Lord is, there is liberty

liberty

• noun (pl. liberties) 1 the state of being free from oppression or imprisonment. 2 a right or privilege. 3 the power or scope to act as one pleases. 4 informal a presumptuous remark or action.

Liberty implies that anyone can do as they please.

Stop twisting The Word of God to your own meanings
I use the dictionarys meanings,

The Word of God release you from your bondage to your flesh
The bondage to my flesh?I am my flesh.
You are in bondage to a book of submission or damnation.

Get saved. Repent. God knows you need it.
Saved from what,your wrath?
Repent
• verb 1 feel or express sincere regret or remorse. 2 feel regret or remorse about.

I have no regret or remorse.

God knows you need it.
So your his mouthpiece?
You know what god knows?and speak to me as if you were him?I though only god knows each of our destinies.

f you wish to control someone, control yourself.
You appear to have very little mind of your own.The book has its control on you!
I do control myself.
Who/what controls you? ANSWER=GOD?thru the BIBLE.No direct communication.

[Squeaky]

you said
Meat meanings are for the CONTROLERS!

I said
I can see you have no gifts of understanding. Nor any gifts of discernment. So I'll try to put this in your language. Your an intellectual idiot.
The meat is for those who dont control anyone else but only themselves. And they are then an example to the others.
Jesus didnt control us but was an example of how we are to control ourselves. We are not to control others but be an example to others on how to control themselves.

1 Pet 2:21
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

So his children are under bondage!you prove my point!No, as I said, He releases them from bondage. You misunderstand. Those who are not saved are under the law. You're bound by the law. You're guilty, because the law can't be kept by anyone (except Jesus, Who kept every point of the law). He finds everyone guilty because they've disobeyed Him, and for that disobedience, the punishment is death, and after this, the judgement. Jesus saves us from judgement, since He gives us His righteousness, having been punished for our sins (that is the believers).Liberty implies that anyone can do as they please.Those who are given this perfect liberty are pleased to do only those things that are pleasing to The Lord.The bondage to my flesh?I am my flesh.That's what I said. You are in bondage, because you walk after the flesh. Those who are spiritual walk after the spirit.You are in bondage to a book of submission or damnation.We're set free by It, not brought into bondage to It. The Word of God brings life to those who believe in The Lord.Saved from what,your wrath?No, from The Wrath of God, Who is against all sinners.Repent
• verb 1 feel or express sincere regret or remorse. 2 feel regret or remorse about.

I have no regret or remorse.That's because you don't realize that God is Holy and that He requires perfection. You can't enter His Presence unless you're perfect. No one is, except they're washed clean by The Blood of Jesus.So your his mouthpiece?Precisely.You know what god knows?He tells us so.and speak to me as if you were him?That's His Wish, for us to speak to the lost in His stead. He has spoken His Word, and sent His Children to enforce it in the earth.I though only god knows each of our destinies.Yes, specifically, but, in general, I can tell you that unless you believe in Jesus as Savior, you're lost. He is The One and Only Way into Heaven.You appear to have very little mind of your own.The book has its control on you!Thank you.I do control myself.In that case, you're lost. The Lord wants you to follow Him. Until you do, you'll wander around in the dark.Who/what controls you? The Living Word of God, known also as The Holy Spirit.ANSWER=GOD?thru the BIBLE.No direct communication.Oh, you're quite mistaken. We have direct communication. He speaks to me of myself, and of others; often even giving me words to speak to others, on His Behalf.

[Spin~ello(h)]

The meat is for those who dont control anyone else but only themselves. And they are then an example to the others.
Jesus didnt control us but was an example of how we are to control ourselves. We are not to control others but be an example to others on how to control themselves.
A book saying punishment is coming for those who do not believe is an attempt at CONTROL!

For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
Or else Hell is where god will send you.Threats!
If You play baseball and I dont.Then you say see how I hit the ball and catch it.do as i do.
And i say, no thank you
Then I am told that if I dont.Punishment is going to happen to me.That is a threat which is a form of control!/coersion.

Your an intellectual idiot.
How jesus like is that statement?do on to others as they do on to you.Did I call you an idiot?NO
You need to control yourself!Your jesus maybe will hold this statement againt you when he judges you.I dont think you are an intellectual idiot,just because your beliefs are different than mine.

[Aimiel]

A book saying punishment is coming for those who do not believe is an attempt at CONTROL!Yes, an attempt to control lost sheep enough to set them free from the control of one who hates them and wants them to end up in hell, send them along their way to Heaven and complete freedom on the way there. :thumb:

[Spin~ello(h)]

You're guilty
Now you must be god,because you have judged me..Is that not a sin,to judge is not your role.

You are in bondage, because you walk after the flesh.
You are in bondage,because you walk after letters from a book.
My flesh walks after me.I think walk!And my body respondsl/istens.

I am my own master.
You have a book of the dead.As your master(s)

We're set free by It
Free from what?not the bondage,of the book itself.If the book set you free you would not need it anymore.

The Word of God brings life to those who believe in The Lord.
I am alive,thus I have LIFE.And I dont believe in the book or its promises/punishment.

No, from The Wrath of God, Who is against all sinners.
If I went around saying it is a sin to do this or that,so fear my wrath.I would be a BULLY!

washed clean by The Blood of Jesus.
That must be a sickening sight to see.Bathing in blood.yuck!

He tells us so.
When was the last time HE SPOKE!

That's His Wish, for us to speak to the lost in His stead. He has spoken His Word, and sent His Children to enforce it in the earth.
Speaking is not enforcing.Enforcing is CONTROL!

In that case, you're lost. The Lord wants you to follow Him. Until you do, you'll wander around in the dark.
The sun shines in my eyes as I write.Producing,yes LIGHT!no darkness here.

We have direct communication
You have one way communication.How sad.
Master dosent answer.

[Spin~ello(h)]

Yes, an attempt to control lost sheep
So you prove my point .Mankind was living one with the earth.Then it was herded like sheep.
Upsetting the natural balance of nature,to a control/domination factor!

enough to set them free from the control of one who hates them and wants them to end up in hell,
They were already free.Nothing in nature wants to see me in hell(a man imagined place).Only the words of men/god posers threaten hell.

send them along their way to Heaven and complete freedom on the way there. Complete freedom is not being herded!on the way there.

If i take a group of sheep and herd them,they are not completely free!

[Aimiel]

Now you must be god,because you have judged me..Is that not a sin,to judge is not your role.Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

Guess what? The Word of God has judged you, I simply agree with Him. Your mouth is stopped.You are in bondage,because you walk after letters from a book.
My flesh walks after me.I think walk!And my body respondsl/istens.I was set free by the letters. You walk after the desires of your flesh. You show your allegiance to it by doing so. It is one of your false gods.I am my own master.
You have a book of the dead.As your master(s)Those in The Bible aren't dead (except those who made themselves God's enemy, as you do), they are alive, in Heaven.Free from what?not the bondage,of the book itself.If the book set you free you would not need it anymore.That's like saying that since you got cured of pneumonia you don't need your lungs any more. That Book (The Bible) is Spirit and Life to those who believe in The One Who wrote it.I am alive,thus I have LIFE.And I dont believe in the book or its promises/punishment.Doesn't matter, those promises are still available to you, such that you can avail yourself of them and escape the punishment that is described for all those who reject The Lord.If I went around saying it is a sin to do this or that,so fear my wrath.I would be a BULLY!That is true, but only because you're not God, and wouldn't know how to do so by proving your character and showing your sheep how to find you and escape certain death.When was the last time HE SPOKE!He never stops.Speaking is not enforcing.Enforcing is CONTROL!Yes, we control demons with The Word that He gave us, as well as illness, disease and death.The sun shines in my eyes as I write.Producing,yes LIGHT!no darkness here.You are not only bound in darkness, you attempt to spread it.

[Aimiel]

So you prove my point .Mankind was living one with the earth.Then it was herded like sheep. Upsetting the natural balance of nature, to a control/domination factor! They were already free.Nothing in nature wants to see me in hell (a man imagined place).Only the words of men/god posers threaten hell. Complete freedom is not being herded on the way there. If i take a group of sheep and herd them,they are not completely free!God gave us freedom. With that freedom, the first man and woman, Adam and Eve, committed high treason against The Lord, and released their authority over the earth to Satan, by taking his word as opposed to believing God. That opened the door to death, since the wages of sin is death. If men are found to be guilty (indeed only The Lord knows who is and isn't guilty) they will suffer the second death, after judgement, which is eternal torment. If you don't have enough sense to know that being set free from having to spend eternity being tormented by flames is freedom indeed, then you don't deserve to be shown the way to Heaven, because you would deny that it had ever been shown to you anyway. :readthis:

[Spin~ello(h)]

Your mouth is stopped.
You prove my point again.My mouth moves and I can speak.(even though I type this,i realy can!)

You walk after the desires of your flesh. You show your allegiance to it by doing so. It is one of your false gods
Desires of the flesh,include EATING .
I would think that you eat food?You must be a flesh follower.

Those in The Bible aren't dead
when a body dies,you are dead.
That is the definition of death!

except those who made themselves God's enemy, as you do
You say i am his enemy,i wish no harm to a long dead slavemaster.no harm could come to him if i did.hes dead.

they are alive, in Heaven.
Alive in heaven?What proof do you have of this heaven?

That's like saying that since you got cured of pneumonia you don't need your lungs any more No its like saying if im cured of pneumonia,I dont need to carry around penicillin and use it everywhere i go for the rest of my life.
saying that since you got cured of pneumonia you don't need your lungs any more,is like saying like being set free from sin,i should commit suicide so i dont sin anymore.
YOUR LOGIC IS LACKING!

Yes, we control demons with The Word that He gave us, as well as illness, disease and death.
So the word controls illness and disease.So no one that believes is or has ever been stricken.GET A GRIP on REALITY.

You are not only bound in darkness
There you go with the bondage again.bound in darkness sound like a threat of prison for not doing as you do.
so much for do on to others as they do on to you.I wish no darkness or harm upon you,even though you are a judgement caster.

[Spin~ello(h)]

committed high treason against The Lord
Eating a something you are told not to is high treason?Man i fear for your kids!

If you don't have enough sense to know that being set free from having to spend eternity being tormented by flames is freedom
I have enough sense to not believe in things unsubstanciated and threatened.
The word is a sword of threats that cant be backed up.
It is like a bully that is a coward in disguise!

[Aimiel]

You say i am his enemy,i wish no harm to a long dead slavemaster.no harm could come to him if i did.hes dead.You make yourself an enemy of The Lord when you call Him dead, a liar and worse. Alive in heaven?What proof do you have of this heaven?The Lord described it to us, told us how to get there and showed us many things which are prepared for us.There you go with the bondage again.bound in darkness sound like a threat of prison for not doing as you do.The god of this world has blinded your eyes to the truth, lest you see This Glorious Gospel and get saved.so much for do on to others as they do on to you.I wish no darkness or harm upon you,even though you are a judgement caster.No, I'm not. I am merely telling you the truth about what you'll face when you die, so that I'm innocent of your blood. Too bad you can't say the same.Eating a something you are told not to is high treason?Man i fear for your kids!I am not God. He told them one commandment, and they broke it. In order to do so, they had to commit treason against The Lord. My children are fine. All six of them; four of whom are out on their own already.The word is a sword of threats that cant be backed up. It is like a bully that is a coward in disguise!No, The Word of God is sharper than any double-edged sword, and can divide apart even the soul and spirit. God knows the thoughts and intents of your heart, and that they are only continually evil. He isn't fooled. You're the one who is the coward, who is not even brave enough to come to The Lord and take Him at His Word. You have to call Him a liar before you even know what He has to say. That isn't only failed logic, it is foolishness. :think:

[Letsargue]

You make yourself an enemy of The Lord when you call Him dead, a liar and worse. The Lord described it to us, told us how to get there and showed us many things which are prepared for us.The god of this world has blinded your eyes to the truth, lest you see This Glorious Gospel and get saved.No, I'm not. I am merely telling you the truth about what you'll face when you die, so that I'm innocent of your blood. Too bad you can't say the same.I am not God. He told them one commandment, and they broke it. In order to do so, they had to commit treason against The Lord. My children are fine. All six of them; four of whom are out on their own already.No, The Word of God is sharper than any double-edged sword, and can divide apart even the soul and spirit. God knows the thoughts and intents of your heart, and that they are only continually evil. He isn't fooled. You're the one who is the coward, who is not even brave enough to come to The Lord and take Him at His Word. You have to call Him a liar before you even know what He has to say. That isn't only failed logic, it is foolishness. :think:


---There's nothing in the Word of God that needs to be backed up, or proved, JUST BELIEVED; if you don't, Sorry!!!!
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--------------Paul---
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[OMEGA]

Again Sqeaky has managed to Cut and Paste the Bible

and we are waisting our time rereading the Bible .

So What Squeaky.

This is a Discussion forum not a Print Shop !!!!

[Spin~ello(h)]

The Lord described it to us, told us how to get there and showed us many things which are prepared for us.
And so did the witch tempt hanzel and gretle with candy.only to end up in the oven.
THE WORD "showed" implies seeing with the eyes.Yet you seem to see words leading to hallucinations of fantasy.

No, I'm not. I am merely telling you the truth about what you'll face when you die, so that I'm innocent of your blood. Too bad you can't say the same.
Yes you are.You state:
You are not only bound in darkness
This implies that I will be bound in darkness,and that is what i will face when i die!

Well i have news for you.you are judging me.I have a time in this world to live.
If i was saved(lol)a day from now or 10 years from now.you have stated that i am bound in darkness.and that will be my afterlife.Well If i got saved(lol)I can see Jesus say spin~ello(h)was ignorant at the time,but you were already saved.UNTIL YOU PASSED JUDGEMENT.Hell for you!
I suggest you pray for your soul.
You do not know the future so be careful if you really believe!

I am not God. He told them one commandment, and they broke it. In order to do so, they had to commit treason against The Lord.
A god figure scared that his slaves might have free will(gotten from the apple)and then drove them out in fear that his everlasting life tree might be tasted too.
SELFISH AND GREEDY scared of an equal?oh thats right if they were equals he wouldnot have control anymore.

My children are fine. All six of them; four of whom are out on their own already.
I am glad to hear are fine!I hope they always stay that way!

You're the one who is the coward, who is not even brave enough to come to The Lord and take Him at His Word.
A coward gives in to threats of harm.You do,so you are the coward!

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[Aimiel]

And so did the witch tempt hanzel and gretle with candy.only to end up in the oven.I guess you're quoting from your Bible now. Well, whatever.THE WORD "showed" implies seeing with the eyes.Yet you seem to see words leading to hallucinations of fantasy.You love to put words in people's mouths and mislead others about what they've said or not said, don't you. You've got a lot to learn, and you're not ever going to do so by fantacizing. Wake up and smell the coffee. Well i have news for you.you are judging me.I have a time in this world to live.No, you have a season, that is all that you have. Your entire life is but a vapor that appears for an instant and is gone, compared to the eternity that you will have to regret never having believed The Lord. He has never lied, yet you call Him a liar all day long.If i was saved(lol)a day from now or 10 years from now.you have stated that i am bound in darkness.and that will be my afterlife.Your current fate need not stay your eternal destiny, SpinDoctor.Well If i got saved(lol)I can see Jesus say spindoctor was ignorant at the time,but you were already saved.UNTIL YOU PASSED JUDGEMENT.No, Jesus said, "Suffer the little children to come to Me."I suggest you pray for your soul.
I have One Who prays for me, and that is His One Vocation. A coward gives in to threats of harm.You do,so you are the coward!No, a coward is one who runs from truth and puts a 'spin' on everything he comes across, so that it always seems that he is the one who is right. Someone who is brave will stand toe-to-toe with truth, and take it on the chin.

[Spin~ello(h)]

No, a coward is one who runs from truth and puts a 'spin' on everything he comes across, so that it always seems that he is the one who is right
By the way I was born into the sirname SPINELLO it is not some handle(fake screen name).
The name means "cannabis"in Italian.Right and wrong are subjective to the moral code pushed like crack to children.Pure beings/non domesticated are not subject to that convention/invention.)
I never said Im right and you are wrong!
YOU DID CAST JUDGEMENT it is in writting and I have demonstated this and you dodge the facts found in your own words.

compared to the eternity that you will have to regret never having believed The Lord. He has never lied, yet you call Him a liar all day long.
Once again judgement!You state I will regret never having believed in the lord.
For your info I believe god/yhwh was a dominator.His family line continued to jesus.And he saw the truth hidden in the words.That we all are I AM,each of us individualy have this potential.He said I AM and if you follow his example then you to would find you are your own master now!I never said LIAR,I just point out the hidden meanings contained in the words written in his name to control. He was teaching mankind to evolve toward being their own master and not have them continue in the bondage they were under(roman/jewish/yhwh).

Your current fate need not stay your eternal destiny, SpinDoctor.
That statement implies that you KNOW my current fate.You cast judgement on me!jesus said show them the way,not tell them there current fate to scare them!(with threats of damnation/hell)into submission/obediance.

"Suffer the little children to come to Me."
that is why i was concerned about your children.that is a statement of coersion thru suffering and potential violence.
Make them suffer so they will listen.SICKENING!I guess all the aboriginals killed in the name of the lord,deserved to be killed in his name!

I have One Who prays for me, and that is His One Vocation.
You have Judged me and if he(jesus)continues on in an afterlife.He is praying for the sins you have commited against me!Accordint to your faith he died once for our sins.He cannot help you now that you have come to him and sinned again!

[Aimiel]

By the way I was born into the sirname SPINELLO it is not some handle(fake screen name). The name means "cannabis"in Italian.So, in American English, you're MaryJane.Right and wrong are subjective to the moral code pushed like crack to children.Right and wrong are absolute, and you shouldn't sell drugs, especially to children. I hope you get caught.Pure beings/non domesticated are not subject to that convention/invention.)That's not purity, that's a lie, purity is one who obeys moral absolutes.I never said Im right and you are wrong!That's something in your favor then, since I'm not wrong and you're not right.
YOU DID CAST JUDGEMENT it is in writting and I have demonstated this and you dodge the facts found in your own words.No, you simply misunderstand truth, in every case.Once again judgement!You state I will regret never having believed in the lord.Should you not repent before you die, I guarantee that you will.For your info I believe god/yhwh was a dominator.He still is. He is The King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He is The Undisputed Master of The Universe.His family line continued to jesus.Yes, and because He was willing to sacrifce Jesus, and since Jesus was innocent of anything deserving of death (sin) He now has millions of sons, who are heir to Jesus' inheritance.And he saw the truth hidden in the words.That we all are I AM,each of us individualy have this potential.Yes, potential to be gods. Your New Ageness is showing.He said I AM and if you follow his example then you to would find you are your own master now!No, you'd find truth is you follow Jesus' example. He always does The Will of The Father. The Father's Will is not to make us into little gods, but to bring us into subjection to Him, by conforming us to The Image of His Son.I never said LIAR,I just point out the hidden meanings contained in the words written in his name to control.When you make God's words mean what you want or what you 'think' they mean, instead of what they truly mean, you're committing heresy, which is a great evil.He was teaching mankind to evolve toward being their own master and not have them continue in the bondage they were under(roman/jewish/yhwh).No, He came to seek and to save that which was lost. The biggest thing that was 'lost' was man's one-on-one relationship with The Lord, which was lost in Eden. Jesus provided us the ability and gave us a mandate to come back to that relationship with The Father, and many there are who are in and committed to that relationship.That statement implies that you KNOW my current fate.Do you want me to ignore it? It is a fact, just like the fact that it is sunny and mild in Cincinnati right now. If we ignore the fact that it is snowing in winter, and go outside in shorts and a tee-shirt we freeze to death. Would you allow your children to do so, or would you warn them of their 'current fate' by making a judgement that they seem to need to learn? I think the latter. I do no different for you, and you're welcome.You cast judgement on me!You bring it on yourself, by disobeying The Word of God.jesus said show them the way,not tell them there current fate to scare them!(with threats of damnation/hell)into submission/obediance.The Word of God isn't something that you're capable of giving lessons on, seeing as how you believe God to be a liar and worse. His Words to you, except you repent, will be: "Depart from Me, I never knew you." There is only one way to change that, and that is to repent, because The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. :readthis:

[Spin~ello(h)]

you shouldn't sell drugs, especially to children. I hope you get caught.
I have never sold cannabis,or smoked with children.
Caught at what?
Your ignorance has led you to suspect/believe that i would!Conclusions without knowldge of facts,is known as paranoia.I think that is a mental illness,you might want to see a doctor for your condition.

That's not purity, that's a lie, purity is one who obeys moral absolutes.
Wild animals/nature are/is pure,and they dont listen to moral absolutes.

No, you simply misunderstand truth, in every case.
Truth is subjective to opinion/convention.one mans truth is anothermans lie.
I dont stand under your opinion of what is truth or anyone elses for that matter.I dont believe in right and wrong.

When you make God's words mean what you want or what you 'think' they mean, instead of what they truly mean, you're committing heresy, which is a great evil.
How do you know what they mean?You interpret,do you not?If If the word was clear this forum would not exist!and there would be no debate,only conformity.
You dont seem to see that not all people do not agree on scripture.
Your interpretation or darkness for all that dont see it as you!
Judgement caster!

The biggest thing that was 'lost' was man's one-on-one relationship with The Lord, which was lost in Eden. Jesus provided us the ability and gave us a mandate to come back to that relationship with The Father, and many there are who are in and committed to that relationship. You have a one on one relationship.Oh now I see why you "think"you are the judge of my being.

You bring it on yourself, by disobeying The Word of God.
So by disobeying your interpretations.I bring your judgement.you dont deny you judged me,you state i have brought it(your judgement) on myself,by disobeying your interpretations.

[Aimiel]

I have never sold cannabis,or smoked with children.
You're in denial.Truth is subjective to opinion/convention.one mans truth is anothermans lie. I dont stand under your opinion of what is truth or anyone elses for that matter. I dont believe in right and wrong.You do, you just don't realize it because your ignorance has led you to suspect and to believe that even though you don't know right from wrong, because your conscience is seared with a hot iron. Making such conclusions without knowldge of facts,is known as foolishness, and in some circles, insanity. I believe that is a mental illness, you might want to get saved, because only Jesus can heal you. There is no hope, otherwise.you dont deny you judged me,you state i have brought it(your judgement) on myself,by disobeying your interpretations.No, I don't judge you. I have never judged you. I'm only telling you your state: guilty of sin. You have brought God's judgement upon yourself, as everyone has. Salavation is available to you, if there is breath left in your body. Repent!!!

[Spin~ello(h)]

HEY AMIEL
I said: I have never sold cannabis,or smoked with children.
you say You're in denial.
You are a sick individual.Do you know me?NO!
Your mind jumps to conclusions based on judgement not fact!

your conscience is seared with a hot iron.
The moderators of this forum should ban you!JUDGEMENT CASTER!

No, I don't judge you. I have never judged you. I'm only telling you your state: guilty of sin. Huh?saying i am guilty of sin.is not judgement.Saying i am in the state of sin (according to you),is not.
Guilty is a verdict of a judge!Are you god?
And saying my "conciousness is seared with a hot iron"projecting hate/illwill on me.
HOW JESUS like is that?

You have brought God's judgement upon yourself,
I thought revelations is yet to come?Since you are full of hate,will you get in the gate of heaven?Why dose it need a gate anyway to lock in or out?

[Aimiel]

I said: I have never sold cannabis,or smoked with children.So are you admitting to buying and smoking it?
The moderators of this forum should ban you!JUDGEMENT CASTER!Because I tell you the words of this life? Because I warn you of your fallen condition, and that no matter how good you are, it isn't good enough, that the only way to secure eternal life is by repenting of your sin and believing upon The Lord Jesus as Savior? I hardly think so, since that is the main reason this forum even exists. In fact, it is the very basis of life. God created men so that they could tell one another about His Son. You don't want to know Truth? Go figure.Huh?saying i am guilty of sin.is not judgement. Saying i am in the state of sin (according to you),is not. Guilty is a verdict of a judge!Are you god? And saying my "conciousness is seared with a hot iron"projecting hate/illwill on me. HOW JESUS like is that?Very. Also, I didn't suggest anything about your consciousness, which probably comes and goes according to how much THC is in your system at any given time, but I did say that your conscience (something you probably aren't aware of any more since it is dead) which is your inner voice which tells you right from wrong, is seared with a hot iron.I thought revelations is yet to come?It is. What of it?Since you are full of hate,will you get in the gate of heaven?Why the judgementalism? Are you so full of hatred for me that you're projecting it onto me? I don't hate anyone, except Satan. Are you him?Why do(es) it need a gate anyway to lock in or out?The gates in Heaven are purely decorative. God made each one out of a single pearl. The fact that God demands perfection in Heaven will certainly come as a surprise to you, but He has said that nothing that defiles will be allowed in there. Here's what The Word of God says:

"He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife."

I underliined the parts (above) which might be of special interest to you. You might want to give yourself a check-up from the neck up.

"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie."

[Squeaky]

Aimiel could you take your self righteous condemnation of everyone else some where else.
You really make my threads look perverted when you reply with such delusional self glory.

[Aimiel]

... your self righteous condemnation...I know you are. But what am I? :p

[Squeaky]

Aimiel what are you? 6 years old.

[Aimiel]

Aimiel what are you? 6 years old.I'm 50. I act like a six-year-old sometimes because I'm dealing with someone who acts like a six-year-old all the time (Squeaky).

[Squeaky]

Aimiel I'm a 58 year old man, so I guess I am dealing with a kid here. Grow up.

[Aimiel]

Aimiel I'm a 58 year old man, so I guess I am dealing with a kid here. Grow up.Squeaky, could you take your self righteous condemnation of me somewhere else.

Your posts really look perverted when you reply with such delusional self glory. :nananana:

[Squeaky]

Did I hurt your pride alittle??????????

[Aimiel]

No. I'm not walking in pride. I'm able to be entreated, should someone show me something I'm doing which is contrary to The Word of God. When someone has the 'big-head' syndrome and tries to tell me that I'm wrong, with foolish notions about what The Word of God actually means, I don't mind. I've tried to show you your error, but you refuse to acknowledge it. You just don't have sense enough to realize that you've taken Scripture out-of-context and combined it with others to confuse yourself.

[Squeaky]

you said
I've tried to show you your error, but you refuse to acknowledge it. You just don't have sense enough to realize that you've taken Scripture out-of-context and combined it with others to confuse yourself.


I said
I've tried to show you your error, but you refuse to acknowledge it. You just don't have sense enough to realize that you've taken Scripture out-of-context and combined it with others to confuse yourself.

[Aimiel]

Where do you see error in my understanding. I have yet to hear anything from you which points out any. Please show me.

[Squeaky]

You can only walk after the Spirit by quoting verses. If your not quoting verses your walking after the flesh. You are so carnally minded you believe you can speak for God useing human wisdom, instead of demonstrating the Holy Spirit. It cant be done.

Rom 8:1-2
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
(NKJ)

Rom 8:5-8
5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.
8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

You can only walk after the Spirit by quoting verses.Liar. The Word of God doesn't say that.If your not quoting verses your walking after the flesh.Liar. The Word of God doesn't say that.You are so carnally minded you believe you can speak for God useing human wisdom, instead of demonstrating the Holy Spirit. It cant be done.I don't speak to you as a Christian, because you're not. I speak to you as I would to a stubborn reprobate child, which you are. 'Demonstrating' The Holy Spirit isn't possible. He can manifest, as He wills, not as men will for Him to. You are merely pretending to be spirit-filled, by 'quoting verses' when, in fact, all that you are doing is making a fool of yourself, by claiming The Word of God says things which It does not.

[Squeaky]

you said
. 'Demonstrating' The Holy Spirit isn't possible.

I said
Thank you for admitting you dont know who the Holy Spirit is.
Paul said this:

1 Cor 11:1-2
1 Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.
2 Now I praise you, brethren, that you remember me in all things and keep the traditions just as I delivered them to you.
(NKJ)

1 Cor 2:4-7
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

OK, demonstrations of Him are possible, but demonstrating Him, as in, "I'm demonstrating The Holy Spirit now," or, "Tomorrow I will demonstrate The Holy Spirit," isn't. Paul said so 'after' the fact. You claim that one can do so at will, which, as I said, isn't possible. The Holy Spirit doesn't perform on command, He does as He wills, not as you will. Your understanding of these things is lacking because you think that cutting and pasting verses out-of-context is 'demonstrating The Holy Spirit.' All you've done is illustrate my point, that what you do is misunderstand The Word of God and attempt to teach foolisness as if it were sound doctrine.

[Squeaky]

you said
Paul said so 'after' the fact. You claim that one can do so at will, which, as I said, isn't possible.

I said
Oh if you only knew. What does "after the fact mean??????????

[Aimiel]

Oh if you only knew. What does "after the fact mean?You need to learn the English language, which would help in your understanding of The Bible. Paul stated that he had demonstrated (past tense) The Holy Ghost. He didn't say, "I am going to demonstrate The Holy Ghost by quoting verses," which would be foolishness. He spoke of the things which The Holy Ghost had done in their presence, to demonstrate His Power. He only does as He wills, not as men would have Him to do. Those who actually know The Holy Ghost will tell you that He never does 'as expected,' but will manifest as He wills. He 'shows up' differently every time, but He does show up and He also shows off. He is God and cannot fit into a bottle. Oh, Squeaky, if you only knew.

[Squeaky]

you said
You need to learn the English language, which would help in your understanding of The Bible. Paul stated that he had demonstrated (past tense) The Holy Ghost. He didn't say, "I am going to demonstrate The Holy Ghost

I said
If you would only look something up before you comment. He said "demonstration" which is not past tense or present tense but at will.

1 Cor 2:4-5
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

If you would only look something up before you comment. He said "demonstration" which is not past tense or present tense but at will.

1 Cor 2:4-5
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
(NKJ)He also prefaced the word, "demonstration," with the word, "were," which makes the action 'past-tense.' If only you would pay attention to what you're reading, you might approach understanding. :duh:

[Squeaky]

Roflol

[Aimiel]

Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

Don't you realize that he was talking about what happened in their presence when he was there? The letter wasn't written to them while he was there, but long after. :duh:

[Squeaky]

more of that human wisdom that I dont have.

1 Cor 2:4
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

more of that human wisdom that I dont have.At least you've finally admitted to a fault.

Here, here's where you need to go now:

If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

You need to go to your knees and ask for what you don't have, in abundance. You're severely lacking in wisdom because you don't have any. Ask, seek and knock. He will give it to you. If you don't ask, you will stay as you are right now: IGNORANT.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
At least you've finally admitted to a fault.

I said
lol Thats not a fault that is a blessing. Do you always get everything backwards???????

[Aimiel]

lol Thats not a fault that is a blessing. Do you always get everything backwards?I'm afraid that's another of your faults, since The Word of God says, "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him," and you wish to cling to foolishness. You've gotten lost due to this error. Repent!!!

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you seem to always fall short of the truth. I just cant seem to get you to learn context. The very next verse explains the kind of wisdom it is talking about. It says"But let him ask in faith" it is talking about spiritual wisdom(verses). Not your carnal reasoning.

James 1:5-6
5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him.
6 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind.
(NKJ)

Let me see if I can help you out here alittle. Faith comes by hearing(not reading) hearing the Word of God quoted to you in your mind from the Holy Spirit. The Word of faith(verses).
Rom 10:17
17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
(NKJ)

Rom 10:8
8 But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith which we preach):
(NKJ)

Oh how long will I be with you???????????????

[Aimiel]

Aimiel you seem to always fall short of the truth.That's because what you believe isn't truth.I just cant seem to get you to learn context.I follow 'context' a whole lot more than you do. Your 'revelations' which are nothing but foolishness place Scriptures out-of-context to an extreme fault, probably un-equalled in idiocy anywhere on the planet.The very next verse explains the kind of wisdom it is talking about. It says"But let him ask in faith" it is talking about spiritual wisdom(verses). Not your carnal reasoning.

James 1:5-6
5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him.
6 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind.
(NKJ)You doubt that when God says, "wisdom," that He actually means, "wisdom?" Well then, you're like a wave of the sea, driven and tossed by the wind.Let me see if I can help you out here alittle.It would be a first, if it ever happened.Faith comes by hearing(not reading) hearing the Word of God quoted to you in your mind from the Holy Spirit.No, because what you have isn't faith, it is blind obedience to the lying spirit that quotes to you verses out-of-context to lead you away from The Truth.Oh how long will I be with you?Until you learn the error of your ways and repent. If you do repent, I expect you'll be in my class in Heaven, and I'll be able to teach you what you need. :hammer:

[Squeaky]

you said
I follow 'context' a whole lot more than you do. Your 'revelations' which are nothing but foolishness place Scriptures out-of-context to an extreme fault, probably un-equalled in idiocy anywhere on the planet.

I said
lol no one can say you dont have faith in your own opinion

[Aimiel]

no one can say you dont have faith in your own opinionI don't have faith in my own opinion which exceeds my faith in The Word of God. You follow The Word of Squeaky, not The Word of God. Were you Christian, you'd understand the difference.

[Squeaky]

you said
I don't have faith in my own opinion which exceeds my faith in The Word of God.

I said
Oh yes you do.

Matt 12:34
34 "Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

I know you are, but what am I?

[Squeaky]

You see you just dont have nothing spiritual just your own carnal opinion. That is the abundance of your heart. No verses because you dont have the Word abiding in you.

Matt 12:34
34 "Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

You see you just dont have nothing spiritual just your own carnal opinion. That is the abundance of your heart. No verses because you dont have the Word abiding in you.I have The Word of God abiding in me, in abundance, and His Law inscribed upon the tablets of my heart. I don't have to parrot God to make people think that I'm Godly because I want to make a good impression and make them think I'm religious, which is what you do. I know The One Whose Word you pervert and throw around like it is confetti. Do you really think that God is going to allow you to continue to trash His Word the way that you do and not require your attention to the fact that you need to get saved? He isn't. He doesn't allow His own children to get away with it, and He's certainly not about to let a child of the devil like yourself do so either.

[Squeaky]

you said
I have The Word of God abiding in me, in abundance, and His Law inscribed upon the tablets of my heart.

I said
No you are deceived. If and that is a big IF. If you had the Word of God abiding in you. You would turn to it for support and answers to Christian questions and statements. You dont. You turn to your human wisdom.

[Aimiel]

No you are deceived. If and that is a big IF. If you had the Word of God abiding in you. You would turn to it for support and answers to Christian questions and statements. You dont. You turn to your human wisdom.I do speak God's Word, and the wisdom that I speak from is from The Lord. Just because you don't have any, simply because you don't have sense enough to ask Him for it, don't try to blame me because I understand The Word of God and avail myself of It and The Lord hears and answers my prayers. You're just jealous. :chuckle:

[Squeaky]

you said
I do speak God's Word, and the wisdom that I speak from is from The Lord. Just because you don't have any, simply because you don't have sense enough to ask Him for it, don't try to blame me because I understand The Word of God and avail myself of It and The Lord hears and answers my prayers. You're just jealous

I said
You say you do, but you cant prove it. You poor misguided soul. Gods Word only comes in verse form.

John 1:1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
(NKJ)

John 1:14
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
(NKJ)

John 1:17
17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
(NKJ)

Every real christian knows this. You only speak from your own understanding. And your understanding is perverted by your carnality. In your arrogance you want people to follow you instead of the Word of God.

John 7:18
18 "He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but He who seeks the glory of the One who sent Him is true, and no unrighteousness is in Him.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

You say you do, but you cant prove it. You poor misguided soul. Gods Word only comes in verse form.

Every real christian knows this. You only speak from your own understanding. And your understanding is perverted by your carnality. In your arrogance you want people to follow you instead of the Word of God. No, He spoke in an audible voice, and when Mount Sinai shook because of His Voice, the people entreated Moses to speak with God for them, lest they die. He also took The Form of Flesh, since The Word of God became Flesh (Jesus) and dwelt among us. He also takes up residence in the heart of those who love Him and not merely knowledge 'about' Him, which is all that you have, and most of that in error. I don't want anyone to follow me, I want all men to follow The Holy Spirit, who leads men to The Father, by The Grace of God which is only made available to them through The Blood of The Lamb, The Living Word of God, Jesus. You not only don't understand, you don't have any part in Christianity, except as an example of pride, and how not to act. :rolleyes:

[Squeaky]

you said
He also took The Form of Flesh, since The Word of God became Flesh (Jesus) and dwelt among us.

I said
Again you poor misguided soul. You really should get yourself a bible dictionary. And when you do look up that flesh in that verse. Flesh does NOT mean skin.

[Aimiel]

Flesh does NOT mean skin.Have you ever looked up the word flesh? Obviously you don't understand English. Do you have any sense at all?

[Squeaky]

Obviously you dont understand the Word of God. Why do you just keep rambling on??????
When it speaks of the flesh it is speaking of what motivates you. Your carnality or the Word of God,verses.

John 1:14
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
(NKJ)

4561 sarx (sarx);

probably from the base of 4563; flesh (as stripped of the skin), i.e. (strictly) the meat of an animal (as food), or (by extension) the body (as opposed to the soul [or spirit], or as the symbol of what is external, or as the means of kindred), or (by implication) human nature (with its frailties [physically or morally] and passions), or (specifically) a human being (as such):

KJV-- carnal (-ly, + -ly minded), flesh ([-ly]).

[Aimiel]

The body. Your flesh is a dead man, enclothed in visible form by skin. Flesh means your carnal nature, but it is also talking about skin, which is one of the parts that make up your carnal nature or desires. What motivates you is mostly demonic in its origin.

[Squeaky]

you said
but it is also talking about skin,

I said
ramble ramble

[Aimiel]

You need to become born-again to even see The Kingdom, which you haven't seen yet, because you aren't born-again.

[Squeaky]

You poor misguided soul. If you only knew what born again means.

[Aimiel]

I do. You're the one who's in the dark.

[Squeaky]

you said
I do. You're the one who's in the dark.


I said
No you dont. You dont even know the Holy Spirit that you are to be born again of.

John 3:8
8 "The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit."
(NKJ)

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

Its the one that only quotes verses. See I told you, you didnt know Him.

[Aimiel]

You dont even know the Holy Spirit that you are to be born again of.
Its the one that only quotes verses. See I told you, you didnt know Him.You're right, I don't recognize a spirit that is only capable of quoting New Testament verses as Holy. The True Holy Spirit is capable not only of quoting The Old Testament, but He is The Spirit that inspired those verses to be written, and The Spirit that is capable of speaking what He hears from The Lord, which might not be written in a Bible, nevertheless is just as much The Word of God because of His Power and Authority. The reason that I don't recognize your familiar spirit as holy is because it is un-holy. It is a demon spirit which lies to you and makes you think that you're Christian when you're not.

[Squeaky]

you said
You're right, I don't recognize a spirit that is only capable of quoting New Testament verses as Holy

I said
And yet that is exactly what the Word says. The Holy Spirit will teach us by bringing to remembrance(quoting) what Jesus has said(already said) to us. And the only time He is speaking to us is when we read the Word of God in the new testament.

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)


He is NOT allowed to speak on His own authority. He can only take from what is Jesus'(the verses)
John 16:13-14
13 "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
14 "He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.
(NKJ)

And when the Holy Spirit gives us that wisdom from above it will be gentle and without emotions, and He is willing to yield to us, if we want to reject it we can.
James 3:17
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

And yet that is exactly what the Word says. The Holy Spirit will teach us by bringing to remembrance(quoting) what Jesus has said(already said) to us. And the only time He is speaking to us is when we read the Word of God in the new testament. (Emphasis mine -- Aimiel)No, that isn't what The Word says, exactly. What The Word says is: "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." Please note that Jesus said that The Holy Ghost would teach us all things. The Word of God also says, "And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen." Now, you have to admit that in order for The Holy Ghost to be able to teach us all things, according to your illogical presumption that He can only quote New Testament verses, all things would have to be written in there, and, obviously they are not.

Besides that, Paul said, "For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church." Now, he didn't say that Timothy was not allowed to say anything except to quote what Paul had written, did he? He said that Timothy would bring ways to the people's remembrance. That's what The Holy Ghost does, brings Jesus words and ways to our remembrance, especially when we need Him to, but He also does other things, as well. :angel:

[Squeaky]

you said
No, that isn't what The Word says, exactly. What The Word says is: "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." Please note that Jesus said that The Holy Ghost would teach us all things.

I said
lol You have developed a habit. You just disagree to be disagreeing. Depending on which version of the Word you read. But Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit are the same.

[Aimiel]

you said
No, that isn't what The Word says, exactly. What The Word says is: "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." Please note that Jesus said that The Holy Ghost would teach us all things.

I said
lol You have developed a habit. You just disagree to be disagreeing. Depending on which version of the Word you read. But Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit are the same.Squeaky,

I have told you before, I agree with you that Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit mean the same thing. Did you read the rest of my post? You didn't comment on the fact that the fallacy that you've swallowed as truth isn't in The Word of God and The Word of God that I quoted to you proved that what you believe is in error. Do you know how to read?

[Squeaky]

you said
obviously they are not.

I said
I seen it but your so sensitive I didnt want to come down to hard on you. Like this statement. That is arrogance. If you havent even got through the milk yet how can you know or even claim that it s not enough there in the new testament???
I've been walking after the Holy Spirit with the new testament verses for 25 years, and it has been enough for me. He has answered every question I have ever had with a new testament verse.

[David2]

bump

[Squeaky]

Someone tell me what bump means so I can follow the conversation.

[Aimiel]

It has nothing to do with the conversation, it is merely someone attempting to 'bump' a thread to the top of the 'Active Threads' list. Putting the word, "bump," in one's post is a way of letting people know why they've posted no message, merely someone trying to get a thread 'active' again.

[Squeaky]

I just figured you went on vacation. Or you were studying for some more of that "wit" you claim.

[Aimiel]

I just figured you went on vacation. Or you were studying for some more of that "wit" you claim.Well, whatever I was doing, you can bet that I didn't get a combination of discordant verses from a demon, trying to confuse me as to what The Word of God means.

[Squeaky]

you said
Well, whatever I was doing, you can bet that I didn't get a combination of discordant verses

I said
Well that has been obvious for along time now. You really should read this one real close though.

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

you said
Well, whatever I was doing, you can bet that I didn't get a combination of discordant verses

I said
Well that has been obvious for along time now. You really should read this one real close though.You don't understand what I write any more than you understand Scripture. You really need to take some English courses. My guess would be that you either didn't graduate High School or your High School has some really poor standards. Being too proud to admit it or get help with it though, is your fault.

[Squeaky]

you said
My guess

I said
I notice you do that alot.

[Aimiel]

you said
My guess

I said
I notice you do that alot.Obviously you have no response to my accusation of you being a high-school dropout, because that is what you did.

[Squeaky]

you said
Obviously you have no response to my accusation of you being a high-school dropout, because that is what you did.


I said
Well seeing as how that has nothing to do with spiritual knowledge I just choked it up as one of your arrogant attempts at insulting me. And I have overlooked alot of them.

[Jujubee]

His mouth is running in here too...

[Aimiel]

Well seeing as how that has nothing to do with spiritual knowledge I just (chalked) it up as one of your arrogant attempts at insulting me. And I have overlooked alot of them.I didn't mean to appear to be arrogant, though I do apologize if that is how you perceived me, but you are not only short of understanding, spiritually, but naturally, as well, which is all the understanding you'll ever receive, unless you acknowledge your shortcomings and call upon The Name of Jesus for salvation and learn from Him.

[Squeaky]

you said
I didn't mean to appear to be arrogant, though I do apologize if that is how you perceived me

I said
I'm sorry but with your carnal self exalting opinions how else could anyone see you. You have criticized the Word that I post, you have refused to quote the Word. I think you have lost sight of the definition of Gods Word.

[Aimiel]

I think you have lost sight of the definition of Gods Word.you are not only short of understanding, spiritually, but naturally, as well, which is all the understanding you'll ever receive, unless you acknowledge your shortcomings and call upon The Name of Jesus for salvation and learn from Him.

[Squeaky]

you are not only short of understanding, spiritually, but naturally, as well, which is all the understanding you'll ever receive, unless you acknowledge your shortcomings and call upon The Name of Jesus for salvation and learn from Him.

[Aimiel]

you are not only short of understanding, spiritually, but naturally, as well, which is all the understanding you'll ever receive, unless you acknowledge your shortcomings and call upon The Name of Jesus for salvation and learn from Him.I've not only called upon Him for salvation, but I have met Him and His Spirit lives in me. He is My Lord and My God. You don't recognize Him in me because you have no understanding and don't see The Kingdom. You don't see The Kingdom in yourself or in others. You don't understand what being born-again is. You don't like Christians, who believe sound docrine. You don't understand the English language. You need to repent and you need to get an education. :duh:

[Squeaky]

you said
You don't recognize Him in me because you have no understanding and don't see The Kingdom.

I said
I havent seen any evidence that you even know Him yet. You reject the Word of God with no more than your own opinion. You reject everyone that quotes the verses from the Holy Spirit and you do it with no more than your own opinion. You have placed yourself on some kind of pedistal and not even with the Word of God but with your own opinion. You put your faith in your own opinion not in the Word of God. You constantly minister about a god that isnt in the Word of God.

2 Cor 11:14-15
14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.
(NKJ)

II Th 2:4-5
4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

I havent seen any evidence that you even know Him yet.Of course you haven't. You won't. You're blind, and can't see The Kingdom. You reject the Word of God with no more than your own opinion.I've never rejected The Word of God, you liar; I've only rejected your silly misunderstanding of It. The Holy Ghost longs for you to seek Him for wisdom, all day long, but you refuse Him, every single day.You reject everyone that quotes the verses from the Holy Spirit and you do it with no more than your own opinion. No, I simply reject the ignorant way that you clump verses together that don't belong together which flies in the face of sound doctrine, not to mention simple logic.

[Squeaky]

you said
I've never rejected The Word of God, you liar; I've only rejected your silly misunderstanding of It. The Holy Ghost longs for you to seek Him for wisdom, all day long, but you refuse Him, every single day.

No, I simply reject the ignorant way that you clump verses together that don't belong together which flies in the face of sound doctrine, not to mention simple logic.


I said
Now take a look at your two statements here. Thats an oxymoron. You say you have NEVER rejected the Word of God. Then in the next one you say, I simply reject the ignorant way that you clump verses together . You do reject the Word if it isnt put in the order YOU WANT IT. And you also reject the Holy Spirit and the way He wants them put together. Your a walking oxymoron.

[Aimiel]

Squeaky,

Here, I'll demonstrate the demonic doctrine that you have swallowed as 'The Word of God.'

I say unto you, that Judas hanged himself...

"And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself." -- Matthew 27:5

And then I link that with Luke 10:37...

"Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise."

Hey, Squeaky, are you going to go hang yourself, because I was able to put two verses together and show you that you should? I sure hope not. And yet that is exactly what you will do, if you continue to listen to that familiar spirit that has attached itself to your coat-tail. You need to brush that thing off into the ditch and get some help understanding The Word of God, because you're lost. You need to get saved.

[Squeaky]

I have seen that stupid trick before. But again as with the rest of it. You tear the verses apart. Every verse is a spiritual principle. That is what you have always done tear the Word apart. Or just reject it all together. Wake up and see your sins.

Luke 10:37
37 And he said, "He who showed mercy on him." Then Jesus said to him, "Go and do likewise."
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

I have seen that stupid trick before. But again as with the rest of it. You tear the verses apart. Every verse is a spiritual principle. That is what you have always done tear the Word apart. Or just reject it all together. Wake up and see your sins.It is no different than the tricks you play with The Word of God. You're merely using The Word of God to do magic tricks and sell doctrines of demons to people, and God forbid anyone believe you. You're lost. :sam:

[Squeaky]

you said
It is no different than the tricks you play with The Word of God.

I said
Alot different. I never break a verse apart to deceive others. You do. That is a sin, that is guile.

[Aimiel]

You don't understand enough of one single verse to break it into two pieces. I have never broken a verse apart. I merely demonstrated what your demon has taught you to do without even thinking about what you've done. You have a form of Godliness, but you deny The Power thereof, because you don't understand or submit to His Word, you merely repeat It, and you do that without regard to reason or logic.

[Squeaky]

You said
. I have never broken a verse apart

I said
That is another lie. Look at your other post.

[Aimiel]

That is not what I'm preaching, it was an example of what not to do. That is what you do, when you chop up The Word of God, you are committing error. I was merely giving you an example of what the things that you call revelations actually are. You disregard context and throw sound doctrine out the window. Your so-called 'revelations' are demonic doctrine.

[Squeaky]

you said
That is not what I'm preaching, it was an example of what not to do.

I said
Everything you have said is a good example of what not to do.

[Aimiel]

Everything you have said is a good example of what not to do.No, it only appears that way to those who are blind. :cool:

[Squeaky]

Blah blah blah, you just keep rambling on and saying nothing.

[Aimiel]

You don't recognize Him in me because you have no understanding and don't see The Kingdom. You don't see The Kingdom in yourself or in others. You don't understand what being born-again is. You don't like Christians, who believe sound docrine. You don't understand the English language. You need to repent and you need to get an education. :duh:

[Squeaky]

Blah blah blah, you just keep rambling on and saying nothing.

[David2]

aimel , let's calm down,
do you accept the book of revelations?

[Aimiel]

I accept that The Bible is The Word of God. The Revelation of Jesus Christ is a part of That Word. What I don't accept is mis-interpretation, such as Squeaky has posted. He needs to get saved.

[David2]

the revelation of jesus christ, is the book of revelation ie the 2cd advent, prophesied from over 2000 years ago.
now do you also believe that at the time of revelation will have to accept christ as he is as it says before you seen by the whole world opening the seven seals?

[Squeaky]

I'm sorry but do either of you know about the revelations of obedience to the faith? The hidden mystery that has been hidden sense the beginning.
These are the revelation of obedience to the faith. Not the revelations to future events.

Rom 16:25-26
25 Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began
26 but now has been made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures has been made known to all nations, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience to the faith--
Gal 1:11-12
11 But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man.
12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Eph 1:17
17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him,
Eph 3:3-5
3 how that by revelation He made known to me the mystery (as I have briefly written already,
4 by which, when you read, you may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ),
5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets:
1 Pet 1:13-16
13 Therefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and rest your hope fully upon the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
14 as obedient children, not conforming yourselves to the former lusts, as in your ignorance;
15 but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct,
16 because it is written, "Be holy, for I am holy."
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Does this question have anything to do with Squeaky's thread, or with his lack of understanding? I don't think it does.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel when are you going to wake up. I have refuted everything you have ever said with the Word of God and yet you still hold on to your own arrogance.

[Aimiel]

I have refuted everything you have ever said with the Word of God and yet you still hold on to your own arrogance.No, you've ignored everything I've ever shown you about The Word of God, because you don't understand That Word, and aren't born-again. If you were, you would, but you aren't, so you don't.

[Aimiel]

I'm sorry but do either of you know about the revelations of obedience to the faith? Squeaky,

Not being born-again, you can't even see The Kingdom, much less any revelations.

[Squeaky]

you said
No, you've ignored everything I've ever shown you about The Word of God

I said
lol you have got to be kidding. You havent ever showed me nothing about the Word of God. Unless your calling your opinion the Word of God.

[Aimiel]

If you love the voices that you hear more than you love The Word of God, you will have what you cling to.

I've told you that you don't even have ahold of the smallest understanding of The Sincere Milk of The Word of God yet, much less the 'meat' of It. I've told you what born-again really means, according to The Word of God. I've told you where your error is, in believing a demon is really The Holy Spirit. You reject me, because I don't quote enough verses to please you. You'll have to suffer the demon who quotes verses to you, because I don't obey demon-possessed people who try to tell me what to do to obey their demonic doctrine. I obey The Holy Ghost, Whom I have proven lives in me, and have shown to you, in the others who are telling you the same thing that I am, which is that you are in error and on your way to hell. This isn't my opinion, it is fact, fact backed up by what I have said to you as well as what other Christians have said to you, all of which you reject, since you're the only one on this earth who is right. Your pride won't let you admit that you might be in error, because then you'd have to repent and come to a knowledge of The Truth, and we all know that the demon you listen to doesn't want you to do that. Repent!!! Get saved. Call upon The Name of The Lord. He can deliver you from your demon, but you have to want it. That's The Word of God.

[Squeaky]

you said
If you love the voices that you hear more than you love The Word of God, you will have what you cling to.

I said
That is your delusion. You dont know what the Word of God is. You think its a being. The Word of God is the verses. You have rejected the Word of God for a feeling that your right. You dont share the Word of God you dont post the Word of God you dont believe the Word of God you dont hold to the Word of God. You dont know what the Word of God is. And you do all this because of your own opinion which is worthless.

John 1:1-2

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
(KJV)

John 1:14
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
(KJV)

3056 logos (log'-os);

from 3004; something said (including the thought); by implication a topic (subject of discourse), also reasoning (the mental faculty) or motive; by extension, a computation; specifically (with the article in John) the Divine Expression (i.e. Christ):

KJV-- account, cause, communication, X concerning, doctrine, fame, X have to do, intent, matter, mouth, preaching, question, reason, + reckon, remove, say (-ing), shew, X speaker, speech, talk, thing, + none of these things move me, tidings, treatise, utterance, word, work.

[Aimiel]

You dont know what the Word of God is. You think its a being. The Word of God is the verses. The 'verses' are What said that The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. He also is called Emmanuel, or 'God with us' because Jesus' Spirit can live inside of us, if we so desire.You have rejected the Word of God for a feeling that your right.I have not rejected The Word of God, only your familiar spirit's interpretation of It, which is merely doctrines of demons, that you preach.You dont share the Word of God you dont post the Word of God you dont believe the Word of God you dont hold to the Word of God.Liar.

[Squeaky]

you said
The 'verses' are What said that The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. He also is called Emmanuel, or 'God with us' because Jesus' Spirit can live inside of us, if we so desire.

I said
Became flesh is not talking about skin and bones. Like I said before get yourself a bible dictionary.
You are in the flesh because you dont know the Word of God.

John 1:14
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
(KJV)

4561 sarx (sarx);

probably from the base of 4563; flesh (as stripped of the skin), i.e. (strictly) the meat of an animal (as food), or (by extension) the body (as opposed to the soul [or spirit], or as the symbol of what is external, or as the means of kindred), or (by implication) human nature (with its frailties [physically or morally] and passions), or (specifically) a human being (as such):

KJV-- carnal (-ly, + -ly minded), flesh ([-ly]).

[Aimiel]

you said
The 'verses' are What said that The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. He also is called Emmanuel, or 'God with us' because Jesus' Spirit can live inside of us, if we so desire.

I said
Became flesh is not talking about skin and bones. Like I said before get yourself a bible dictionary.
You are in the flesh because you dont know the Word of God. No, I'm in The Spirit because The Spirit of Jesus is in me. You don't have His Spirit because you don't recognize Him. You don't recognize His Spirit as being The Spirit of The Lord and you don't recognize His Spirit in other Christians, because you don't have His Spirit in you, because you're not born-again. You're a non-Christian because you don't recognize The Word of God. Those who do so not only have His Spirit they speak The Word of God because they understand That Word, not because they have memorized some scriptures and pretend they know what His Word means. You miss the fact that you don't understand The Word because you're not born-again. You also miss all the rest of the facts in The Word of God for the same reason: you're blinded by the god of this world, who lives inside of you and directs your every step.

[Squeaky]

you said
No, I'm in The Spirit because The Spirit of Jesus is in me.

I said
I knew a man one time who believed he could fly. He really believed he could. Until he had to prove it.

1Thes 5:21-22
21 prove all things; hold fast that which is good;
22 abstain from every form of evil.
(ASV)

2 Cor 13:5-6
5 Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-- unless indeed you are disqualified.
6 But I trust that you will know that we are not disqualified.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

I knew a man one time who believed he could fly. He really believed he could. Until he had to prove it.Squeaky,

I have proven, time and again, that I know in Whom I have believed, and shown you what He wants me to say to you. If you don't believe my words, then you should believe my works. I haven't tried to do anything with you except open your eyes. I'm not trying to lead you astray, and neither is anyone else who has any sense. You've been approached by many people on TOL, and most of them have tried, at one time or another, to convince you of the same error, which is ignorance. You ignore The Word of God, you ignore Christians and you ignore common sense. You have nothing left but folly, which you don't ignore, you are led around by the nose by your own folly.

[Squeaky]

you said
I have proven, time and again, that I know in Whom I have believed, and shown you what He wants me to say to you. If you don't believe my words, then you should believe my works.

I said
You havent proven nothing. And your words are worthless. If you cant show the verse the Holy Spirit is leading you with He isnt leading you. Your carnality is. Now you have proven your carnal and in the flesh. And your works are full of lies and blasphemy. You have proven you dont understand the verses, you have proven you dont know the Holy Spirit, and you have proven you have blasphemed against the Spirit. And yet you keep rambling on.

[Aimiel]

All that you have proven is that you don't understand The Word of God and only know how to tell lies about It, and me. You still need to repent and get saved.

[Squeaky]

Have you ever thought about looking up the definition of the word Word????
It is something said. A way of communicating with words. I dont know where you get your ideas but they dont come from the bible.

John 1:1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
(KJV)

3056 logos (log'-os);

from 3004; something said (including the thought); by implication a topic (subject of discourse), also reasoning (the mental faculty) or motive; by extension, a computation; specifically (with the article in John) the Divine Expression (i.e. Christ):

KJV-- account, cause, communication, X concerning, doctrine, fame, X have to do, intent, matter, mouth, preaching, question, reason, + reckon, remove, say (-ing), shew, X speaker, speech, talk, thing, + none of these things move me, tidings, treatise, utterance, word, work.

Like I said get yourself a bible dictionary.

[Aimiel]

Have you ever thought about looking up the definition of the word Word?
It is something said. A way of communicating with words. I dont know where you get your ideas but they dont come from the bible.

John 1:1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
(KJV)

3056 logos (log'-os);

from 3004; something said (including the thought); by implication a topic (subject of discourse), also reasoning (the mental faculty) or motive; by extension, a computation; specifically (with the article in John) the Divine Expression (i.e. Christ):

KJV-- account, cause, communication, X concerning, doctrine, fame, X have to do, intent, matter, mouth, preaching, question, reason, + reckon, remove, say (-ing), shew, X speaker, speech, talk, thing, + none of these things move me, tidings, treatise, utterance, word, work.

Like I said get yourself a bible dictionary.Why do I need to get mine from the shelf, when you've been so kind as to post the portion of the definition that you just refuse to acknowledge or understand? The 'specific' definition of Word is Jesus, The Divine Expression. You defeated your own purpose, which was to say that Jesus isn't The Word of God, in The Flesh, because your own Bible Dictionary tells us that He is. Either you are a liar, or your Bible Dictionary is, and you need to give it to someone else, someone who believes Truth, rather than opposes Him.

[Squeaky]

you said
The 'specific' definition of Word is Jesus, The Divine Expression

I said
You see, not even the truth will affect you. You just go right on making this stuff up as you go. I posted the definition from a bible dictionary and it went right over your head. You are the true definition of an intellectual idiot.

John 1:1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
(KJV)

3056 logos (log'-os);

from 3004; something said (including the thought); by implication a topic (subject of discourse), also reasoning (the mental faculty) or motive; by extension, a computation; specifically (with the article in John) the Divine Expression (i.e. Christ):

KJV-- account, cause, communication, X concerning, doctrine, fame, X have to do, intent, matter, mouth, preaching, question, reason, + reckon, remove, say (-ing), shew, X speaker, speech, talk, thing, + none of these things move me, tidings, treatise, utterance, word, work.

You just keep rambling on, and on. Perverting the Word of God.

[Aimiel]

3056 logos (log'-os);

from 3004; something said (including the thought); by implication a topic (subject of discourse), also reasoning (the mental faculty) or motive; by extension, a computation; specifically (with the article in John) the Divine Expression (i.e. Christ):
KJV-- account, cause, communication, X concerning, doctrine, fame, X have to do, intent, matter, mouth, preaching, question, reason, + reckon, remove, say (-ing), shew, X speaker, speech, talk, thing, + none of these things move me, tidings, treatise, utterance, word, work.

You just keep rambling on, and on. Perverting the Word of God.I'm not perverting anything, I'm trying to help you understand what it is that you're reading. The one 'specific' definition of the word, "Word," is: The Divine Expression; and the description in parentheses, "i.e. Christ," mean: "that is to say, Christ." If you don't understand English, maybe you need to take some classes. As I said, your own Bible Dictionary clearly states the definition of the word, "Word," that you choose to ignore. If you wish to remain ignorant of Jesus' Divinity, of the fact that He is God, in The Flesh, then you need to throw your Bible Dictionary away, because it, at least, has sense enough to state The Truth on this matter. You don't seem to have sense enough to understand what it is that you're reading. Hello... McFly!!! :duh:

[Squeaky]

you said
The Divine Expression; and the description in parentheses, "i.e. Christ

I said
No no the divine expression is the words that Christ expressed to us. The verses.

[Aimiel]

No no the divine expression is the words that Christ expressed to us. The verses.Only according to you, but not according to the Bible Dictionary that you quoted. :duh:

[Squeaky]

You seem to have a nack for perverting everything. Maybe that is why you cant quote verses because you dont have the Word abiding in you.

John 5:37-42
37 "And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
38 "But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.
39 "You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
40 "But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
41 "I do not receive honor from men.
42 "But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

I don't quote verses to you, because you don't understand scriptures, so what is the use of quoting them to you? You don't even believe your own Bible Dictionary, even the quotes that you make from it. You don't even understand the English language, and yet you want us to believe that you