Revelation On the Milk Understanding

[Squeaky]

MILK (HEARER OF THE WORD)(DISCIPLE)
Matt 13:34-35
34 All these things Jesus spoke to the multitude in parables; and without a parable He did not speak to them,
35 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying: "I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things kept secret from the foundation of the world."
Mark 4:34
34 But without a parable He did not speak to them. And when they were alone, He explained all things to His disciples.
John 16:27
25 "These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; but the time is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but I will tell you plainly about the Father.
26 "In that day you will ask in My name, and I do not say to you that I shall pray the Father for you;
27 "for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me, and have believed that I came forth from God.
1 Cor 3:1-3
1 And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ.
2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able;
3 for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men?
1 Tim 1:6-7
6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
7 desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm.
Heb 5:12-13
12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food.
13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
1 Pet 2:1-2
1 Therefore, laying aside all malice, all guile, hypocrisy, envy, and all evil speaking,
2 as newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby,
John 14:22-25
22 Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, "Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world?"
23 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.
24 "He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.
25 "These things I have spoken to you while being present with you.
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
John 16:7-11
7 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.
8 "And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 "of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
10 "of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;
11 "of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
John 16:1-3
1 "These things I have spoken to you, that you should not be made to stumble.
2 "They will put you out of the synagogues; yes, the time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service.
3 "And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me.
Jude 1:19
19 These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit.
(NKJ)Gal 4:1-5
1 Now I say that the heir, as long as he is a child, does not differ at all from a slave, though he is master of all,
2 but is under guardians and stewards until the time appointed by the father.
3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world.
4 But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law,
5 to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.
1 Cor 13:11-12
11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
Heb 5:13-6:3
13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
1 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,
2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3 And this we will do if God permits.
Phil 3:12-17
12 Not that I have already attained, or am already perfected; but I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me.
13 Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead,
14 I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
15 Therefore let us, as many as are mature, have this mind; and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal even this to you.
16 Nevertheless, to the degree that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us be of the same mind.
17 Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern.
(NKJ) MILK THREE YEARS TO FIND THE HOLY SPIRIT QUOTING VERSES
Luke 13:7-9
7 "Then he said to the keeper of his vineyard, 'Look, for three years I have come seeking fruit on this fig tree and find none. Cut it down; why does it use up the ground?'
8 "But he answered and said to him, 'Sir, let it alone this year also, until I dig around it and fertilize it.
9 'And if it bears fruit, well. But if not, after that you can cut it down.' "
Gal 1:15-19
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb and called me through His grace,
16 to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood,
17 nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.
18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and remained with him fifteen days.
19 But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord's brother.
(NKJ)
XXThere is a milk understanding of the Word and there is a meat understanding of the Word of God. And the devil is always there trying to stir up trouble. Trying to say that one or the other has to be wrong. This just isnt so. Those in the milk can only handle so much. And through sharing the Word some in the milk might pick up on the meat understanding of one verse and the milk understanding of the others verses. But the devil is always there trying to say someone is wrong, this just isnt so. We as in the brotherhood should be witnessing this to beginners(young christians).

Luke 6:46
46 "But why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do the things which I say?
(NKJ)

Matt 7:21-23
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22 "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'
(NKJ)

[Berean Todd]

WARNING!! WARNING!! THE ABOVE POST WHICH STARTED THIS THREAD IS STILL TOTALLY UNREADABLE. AFTER REPEATED SUGGESTIONS, FROM AT LEAST 4 OR 5 OF THE FREQUENT POSTERS HERE, FOR WAYS TO BETTER ORGANIZE HIS THREADS THIS PERSON STILL IGNORES ALL REQUESTS TO TRY AND ORGANIZE ANY RATIONAL THOUGHT PATTERNS. THIS POSTER DOESN'T CARE ENOUGH ABOUT YOU OR HIS SUBJECT MATTER TO PUT ANY TIME INTO MAKING HIS THOUGHTS LEGIBLE OR READABLE. PLEASE MOVE ALONG FOLKS!!

[Squeaky]

I believe that you dont realize your criticizing the Holy Spirit not me. The Holy Spirit is the one who organizes the verses in this manner.

[Aimiel]

Originally posted by Squeaky We as in the brotherhood should be witnessing this to beginners(young christians). Squeaky, is this the brotherhood (http://www.holygrail-church.fsnet.co.uk/Freemasonry.htm) that you were speaking of?

:troll:

[Squeaky]

I dont mind you avoiding one of my messages that convicts you, I understand that. But when you get something from another post as your camoflouge it should be somewhere close.

[Aimiel]

Squeaky, the Masons have a lot more teaching that is right than you do. I was trying to let you know where your type of error leads.

[Squeaky]

What in the world are you talking about now. Does your mind drift when you run out of knowledge? Focus, focus, focus.
Dont you have any kind of foundation?

1 Cor 3:11-20
11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw,
13 each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is.
14 If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward.
15 If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.
16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?
17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.
18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise.
19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, "He catches the wise in their own craftiness";
20 and again, "The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile."
(NKJ)

[Squeaky]

Everyone starts out in the milk. That is when they try to mix spiritual knowledge into their carnal knowledge. When people start out reading the Word their only looking for principles that will justify themselves. But they are suppose to be looking for the Holy Spirit within them. Then they are to start walking after the Spirit. And He will always lead them against their emotions and feelings.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel this one went right over your head didnt it??????

[Aimiel]

No, Squeaky, but it is true that most of The Word of God has far more than just two meanings. God reveals what we can understand, and will reveal more if we draw near to Him. Jesus expounded The Old Testament and explained many things about It to the apostles, but we will spend eternity finding out things that God has done for us without ever coming to an end of that search. You haven't grasped most of the sincere milk of The Word of God yet. You don't understand what being born-again means. You don't understand Who and What Jesus is. You have never met The Holy Ghost. You must be born-again before you can even see The Kingdom. You're still blind. Because you say, "I see," your sin remains with you, and will until you call upon The Lord, saying, "God help me." Until that day, you'll continue to call darkness as if it were light, to your shame. You bring a reproach upon The Word of God, and I wish that you would repent. You're giving Christians a bad name, but most people simply look at your posts and think, "Wow, that guy's crazy." If there were a single lamb that were being harmed by your ramblings, The Lord would probably put a stop to it, but as it is, you're mostly harmless, because you aren't the least bit credible. It is sad, really, because your heart seems sincere, you're just so sincerely wrong, on so many levels. You need some counselling, and will probably never ask for it.

[Spin~ello(h)]

amiel=constantly saying pushing(your wrong,I AM right) like a bully.
And then saying people are mentaly ill(need counciling),because they dont follow YOUr interpretations
How christ like.NOT!

[Aimiel]

You're the only one on TOL that I believe is mentally ill. You've taken it upon yourself to troll through threads simply looking for occasion to put me down, and yet don't listen to the truth that I explain to you, you simply dismiss it as if I haven't even spoken. How cowardly can you get. I guess you'll show us, by being even more so, until you're banned for acting so childish.

I've spoken repeatedly with Squeaky, many times, about his needs, and he's just about as stubborn as they come, but he seems to have a lot more on the ball then you do. At least he's pretending to be on the right team, and not proclaiming a false god, as you do.

Stop trying to tell people how Christ-like they're not, because you don't have the first clue about Who Jesus is, much less His Anointing or His Titles. You're badly in need of some study of The Word of God before you try to correct His Sheep. He said that He would chastize those who love Him, and doesn't require your help.

If you don't have anything to add to a thread which is relevant to the discussion at hand, I suggest that you stop trolling and focus on your own faults, as you're so apt to point out to others that they need to do. Just because you find someone personally objectionable, do you think that you can cast rules and convention aside to do as you please? Contrary to your theology, there are moral absolutes, and there are also rules on TOL. I suggest that you read them and abide by them, if you wish to continue to be allowed to post here. :doh:

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
. You haven't grasped most of the sincere milk of The Word of God yet. You don't understand what being born-again means. You don't understand Who and What Jesus is. You have never met The Holy Ghost

You also said

If you don't have anything to add to a thread which is relevant to the discussion at hand, I suggest that you stop trolling and focus on your own faults, as you're so apt to point out to others that they need to do.

I said
Aimiel I havent ever seen you say anything that was relevant to a discussion.
I just went and looked and I cant see where you have ever even started a relevant discussion. Your no more than a hypocritical naysayer.

[Aimiel]

Aimiel I havent ever seen you say anything that was relevant to a discussion.You don't see because the god of this world has blinded your mind. You need to get saved in order to see The Kingdom. Till then, you're blind.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
You don't see because the god of this world has blinded your mind. You need to get saved in order to see The Kingdom. Till then, you're blind.


I said
Your blindness comes from your arrogance. Which you have alot of that. I see a pattern showing up here. I think it stems from the idea that you say you will not humble yourself to the Word of God or your elders. Your arrogance is camoflouged by your self confidence in your own opinion over the Word of God.

Rom 12:16
16 Be of the same mind toward one another. Do not set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Do not be wise in your own opinion.
(NKJ)

You seem to believe you can speak the truth without having to quote the verses. That is your deception.

John 17:17
17 "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
(NKJ)

John 3:34
34 "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.
(NKJ)

If you cant quote the verses God hasnt sent you. But in your arrogance you think He has.

2 Cor 11:14-15
14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.
(NKJ)

II Th 2:4-5
4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?
(NKJ)

Boy are you in for a boat load of guilt if you ever find out the truth.

[Aimiel]

Your blindness comes from your arrogance.What am I 'blind' to? You haven't shown me one thing that I've missed or don't understand. It is your understanding that is lacking, on just the basics of salvation. Since you're not born-again, you don't have the understanding that The Holy Spirit brings to someone who is humble before The Lord; you're lost.I think it stems from the idea that you say you will not humble yourself to the Word of God or your elders.Liar, I never said that. Someone who is older than me but doesn't understand the scriptures isn't my 'spiritual' elder, he is a lost sheep.Your arrogance is camoflouged by your self confidence in your own opinion over the Word of God.No, my understanding of The Word of God won't be quenched by your 'wet-blanket' theories about what The Word of God means.You seem to believe you can speak the truth without having to quote the verses. That is your deception.Jesus did. The apostles did. I can, because I understand The Scriptures. I have them written upon the tablets of my heart, not memorized or simple 'cut-and-paste' trickery (sorcery).If you cant quote the verses God hasnt sent you. But in your arrogance you think He has.Because you believe that, and because you believe that Satan can't quote verses from The New Testament, you're blind to his tricks, and so, are deceived and led captive. That is what I am trying to set you free from, the demonic doctrine that you've been ensnared by.Boy are you in for a boat load of guilt if you ever find out the truth.Boy are you in for a boat load of liberty if you ever find out the truth!!!

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
The Holy Spirit brings to someone who is humble before The Lord; you're lost.

I said
I think your fingers are out running your mind. What does this mean/?????????????

[Aimiel]

Aimiel you said
The Holy Spirit brings to someone who is humble before The Lord; you're lost.

I said
What does this mean?First of all, you're trying to understand only a portion of a sentence, and when you take it away from the rest of the sentence it becomes meaningless, which is comparable to what you do with The Word of God, as well. Here is what I said: "Since you're not born-again, you don't have the understanding that The Holy Spirit brings to someone who is humble before The Lord; you're lost." It means you're lost. You don't have sense enough to realize that God isn't bringing you these revelations, which He can only do with someone who is saved. If you were saved, you would find that The Lord knows how to 'humble' you and to bring you to your knees before Him, in prayer and in humility to His Wisdom as well. Can you understand what I meant now, or would you like me to explain it more thoroughly?

[Squeaky]

you said
You don't have sense enough to realize that God isn't bringing you these revelations

I said
So your going to speak against the Holy Spirit that is giving me these revelations.

Matt 12:31-32
31 "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
32 "Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
(NKJ)

Mark 3:28-30
28 "Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter;
29 "but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation"--
30 because they said, "He has an unclean spirit."
(NKJ)

Luke 12:9-10
9 "But he who denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God.
10 "And anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven.
(NKJ)

[OMEGA]

XXThere is a milk understanding of the Word and there is a meat understanding of the Word of God. And the devil is always there trying to stir up trouble. Trying to say that one or the other has to be wrong. This just isnt so. Those in the milk can only handle so much. And through sharing the Word some in the milk might pick up on the meat understanding of one verse and the milk understanding of the others verses. But the devil is always there trying to say someone is wrong, this just isnt so. We as in the brotherhood should be witnessing this to beginners(young christians).
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Now I know why you just post Scripture.

Its because you don't make any sense when you voice your opinion.

Witnessing What ?????

That God gives some people more understanding than others ?
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[Aimiel]

you said
You don't have sense enough to realize that God isn't bringing you these revelations

I said
So your going to speak against the Holy Spirit that is giving me these revelations.No, I have never said a single word against The Holy Ghost, in my life. I'm talking about the spirit that you listen to, which is a demon, that pretends to be The Holy Ghost who confuses you by putting together scriptures that don't belong together, and showing you demonic doctrine, which you then claim is a 'revelation from God,' which is nothing more than doctrines of demons, which you post on TOL and waste perfectly good storage space which could be better used by spam threads.

:spam: :spam: :spam:

[Squeaky]

you said
. I'm talking about the spirit that you listen to, which is a demon, that pretends to be The Holy Ghost who confuses you by putting together scriptures that don't belong together,

I said
That is the Holy Spirit the one from the Word of God.

[Aimiel]

That (the spirit Squeaky listens to) is the Holy Spirit the one from the Word of God.If it was, He'd lead you to salvation, and you would become born-again. Since that hasn't happened yet, you must be following the wrong holy ghost.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
If it was, He'd lead you to salvation, and you would become born-again. Since that hasn't happened yet, you must be following the wrong holy ghost.


I said
Well you have proven that you do speak against the Spirit in me that gives me all these verses.
And it is obvious your not walking after the same Spirit I am.
this One.

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Well you have proven that you do speak against the Spirit in me that gives me all these verses.
And it is obvious your not walking after the same Spirit I am. Like I said, I recognize the spirit which you manifest, and there is nothing holy about it. I recognize it by it's fruit. Your disdain for and lack of understanding of The Word of God is the fruit of the spirit you have become familiar with, and those aren't fruits of The Spirit of The Lord. The spirit that gives you verses out-of-context and perverts sound understanding of The Word of God isn't from The Lord, it is from the devil. :duh:

[Squeaky]

you said
, I recognize the spirit which you manifest, and there is nothing holy about it.

I said
Again you past judgment on the Spirit that is in me. The one that keeps quoting all them verses to me like this one.

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

There's nothing which you've ever said or done that lends to The Gospel or helped anyone in their understanding of The Word of God. All you've ever proven by quoting verses is show that you know how to cut and paste. You've never demonstrated a love for Christians or for those who cling to The Name of Jesus, but found fault with them all, since they point out that Satan, too, is able to quote Scripture, even New Testament Scriptures. Because you don't recognize that fact, you don't realize that who you're hearing from isn't God, because he quotes New Testament Scriptures to you, which you have itching ears for. This spirit hasn't allowed you to recognize it's identity, because then you'd come to a knowledge of the truth and get saved. He doesn't want that to happen.

[Squeaky]

Aimiel you said
but found fault with them all, since they point out that Satan, too, is able to quote Scripture, even New Testament Scriptures.

I said
What do you do just make this stuff up as you go??? You will have to prove that in the Word. Because I know the Holy Spirit and He says your wrong.

[Aimiel]

What do you do just make this stuff up as you go? You will have to prove that in the Word. Because I know the Holy Spirit and He says your wrong.I will explain what you're doing. You're merely adopting the doctrine that your demon has given you as Christian doctrine. In doing so, you've ignored logic and mis-understood The Word of God, which, to your shame, says, nowhere, that Satan can't quote The New Testament. By taking scriptures out-of-context and placing them together as if they belong or as if they have any logical relationship with one another, you've opened yourself up to be used and abused by demonic forces. You believe a lie. The spirit which you are familiar with is not only un-holy, it is a demon. When you show me that what you are teaching (that Satan can't use New Testament verses as a weapon) is in The Word of God, then I'll show you my proof in The Word of God.

[Squeaky]

you said
I will explain what you're doing. You're merely adopting the doctrine that your demon has given you as Christian doctrine. In doing so, you've ignored logic and mis-understood The Word of God

I said
you said ignored logic . Well Duh!

Matt 18:3-4
3 and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
4 "Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
(NKJ)

Rom 8:5-8
5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.
8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Yup. You're ignorant.

[Squeaky]

you keep giving me human wisdom and I keep demonstrating the Holy Spirit.

1 Cor 2:4
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

you keep giving me human wisdom and I keep demonstrating the Holy Spirit.

1 Cor 2:4
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
(NKJ)Quoting the apostle's writings, who had The Holy Spirit within him when he wrote and attempting to imply that by doing so you prove that The Holy Spirit is also within you is demonstrating that you're foolish. All it proves is that you can cut and paste. Your understanding of The Word of God is darkened by the familiar spirit that you're possessed by, and you don't realize one ounce of truth. You have a 'form' of godliness, but you deny His Power. You don't have His Presence. You have a lying spirit inside you. You are a liar. A demon, just like your father, Satan.

[Squeaky]

you said
Quoting the apostle's writings, who had The Holy Spirit within him when he wrote and attempting to imply that by doing so you prove that The Holy Spirit is also within you is demonstrating

I said
?

[Aimiel]

Paul didn't write his first letter to Corinth while he was there. It was written later. He was speaking in the past tense. Do you understand what 'past tense' means?

[Squeaky]

Then your saying the whole bible is past tense. You have alot of work to do with your fooney excuses to reject the Word of God. God sent Jesus, Jesus sent Paul, and Jesus and Paul sent me.
Its suppose to be all Gods Word. But you just pick and choose which part you are going to use.

Heb 13:8
8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Then your saying the whole bible is past tense.Liar. I am merely saying that you misunderstand the verse which started you down this bunny-trail to nowhere because you don't understand that Paul was speaking of what he did (past tense) under the anointing and guidance of The Holy Spirit, not that he is capable (all by himself) of 'demonstrating' The Holy Spirit. That's what got a certain magician rebuked, thinking to 'have' this gift for himself. God sent Jesus, Jesus sent Paul, and Jesus and Paul sent me.So you are the fourteenth apostle? :kookoo: Its suppose to be all Gods Word. But you just pick and choose which part you are going to use.No, that's one of your many errors. You don't follow The Word of God, you follow The Word of Squeaky, which is demonic doctrine.

[Squeaky]

Excuses, excuses. I'm thinking even your own logic convicts you.

[Aimiel]

Your thinking is in error, as usual. The Holy Spirit does lead, guide and direct me into all truth. He's conforming me to The Image and Likeness of Jesus. Wish you could say the same. Repent!!!

[Squeaky]

you said
The Holy Spirit does lead, guide and direct me into all truth.

I said
You can say that but you cant prove it. Because the Holy Spirit only quotes verses.

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

you said
The Holy Spirit does lead, guide and direct me into all truth.

I said
You can say that but you cant prove it. Because the Holy Spirit only quotes verses.

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)Liar. He is able to also show us things to come, which means future events. How is He going to reveal future events if He only speaks verses, like a parrot? He is God. The Lord is That Spirit, and where The Spirit of The Lord is there is liberty. You want Him to go to jail. You want to put Him in a bottle. He is God, not your personal genie.

[Squeaky]

you said
, like a parrot?

I said
You do try to make everything ugly. Gods words were good enough for Jesus. And Jesus' words were good enough for the Holy Spirit. And to a real christian they are good enough for us. Now lets face it you dont like Gods words so you change them into your words. Which is what makes you a hypocrite.

John 12:49-50
49 "For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.
50 "And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak."
(NKJ)

John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

You do try to make everything ugly.No, I simply described your theory yhat The Holy Ghost can only parrot verses, and isn't capable of telling us what God is saying to us today or what will happen in the future. Making The Word of God into foolishness is far worse than ugly, it's the sin of heresy.Gods words were good enough for Jesus.Yes, They were, but that doesn't mean that He didn't say anything that wasn't already written down. :duh:And Jesus' words were good enough for the Holy Spirit.Yes, They were, but that doesn't mean that He didn't say anything that wasn't already written down. :duh:And to a real christian they are good enough for us.They're good enough for me, but God has more in His Mind than what is written in The New Testament. He is able to speak to His Children, just as you are able to speak to yours. He doesn't only quote verses to them, just as you don't. You really need to get a clue. If you ever meet The Holy Spirit, you'll find out what I'm talking about. Now lets face it you dont like Gods words so you change them into your words. Which is what makes you a hypocrite.No, what makes me into a hypocrite in your mind is not believing the hogwash that you've swallowed. :hammer:

[Squeaky]

you said
No, I simply described your theory yhat The Holy Ghost can only parrot verses, and isn't capable of telling us what God is saying to us today or what will happen in the future. Making The Word of God into foolishness is far worse than ugly, it's the sin of heresy.

I said
That never was my theory but it is you belittleing the Word of God with---parrot.

[Aimiel]

That never was my theory but it is you belittleing the Word of God with---parrot.Please try to make sense and write in complete sentences before you sentence us to read another of your partial sentences. You haven't said anything except nonsense. Do you have any sense at all, or are you sentenced to seances of senseless syntax? You need something that I have but don't need, a diploma. Here you are, you now have a doctorate in thinkology: :readthis:

[Squeaky]

Little over your head huh.
Try this you are mocking Gods Word and the Holy Spirit by refering to anyone quoting it as a parrot.

[Aimiel]

No, I'm merely pointing out the fact that parroting God's Word doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to McDonald's means that you are a hamburger. You have never met The Holy Spirit. That is plain enough from your actions. You have a lot to learn, and refuse to acknowledge your shortcomings. That is ignorance. You are in error and don't listen to advice, though many try to help you. That is childish. You lack understanding, and close your eyes to the truth. That is heresy. Basically, you're a mess.

[Mr. 5020]

Little over your head huh.
Try this you are mocking Gods Word and the Holy Spirit by refering to anyone quoting it as a parrot.I bet you that in 24 hours I can get 3 atheists/paganists to quote the New Testament.

[Squeaky]

Ok do it. But I cant bet because I am a real christian.

[Squeaky]

You have a lot to learn, and refuse to acknowledge your shortcomings. That is ignorance. You are in error and don't listen to advice, though many try to help you. That is childish. You lack understanding, and close your eyes to the truth. That is heresy. Basically, you're a mess.

[Aimiel]

You have a lot to learn, and refuse to acknowledge your shortcomings. That is ignorance. You are in error and don't listen to advice, though many try to help you. That is childish. You lack understanding, and close your eyes to the truth. That is heresy. Basically, you're a mess.Talking to yourself again, Squeaks?

[skeptech]

I bet you that in 24 hours I can get 3 atheists/paganists to quote the New Testament.
Methinks you boast too much. Don't you know, "let him who boasts, boast in the Lord" (I Cor. 1:31)

:hammer:

[Squeaky]

you said
Methinks you boast too much. Don't you know, "let him who boasts, boast in the Lord

I said
I cant believe you said that. You the one that has been bragging on how great you are and how smart you are. You are really an intellectual idiot. To boast in the Lord is to speak His Word, not your own interpretation.

John 7:18
18 "He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but He who seeks the glory of the One who sent Him is true, and no unrighteousness is in Him.
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Squeaky,

I don't think that Skeptech has ever posted in one of your threads before. Did you not look at who posted that?

[Squeaky]

Makes no difference.

Matt 12:34-37
34 "Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
35 "A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things.
36 "But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.
37 "For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
(NKJ)

[Aimiel]

Sure it does. He has never bragged of any such thing, and you're blindly accusing him of something which he probably has no idea what you're speaking of. You don't even have sense enough to apologize to him for mistaking him for someone else. Don't you have any sense at all? You need to get saved. If you did, you'd be a different person. Since you're carnal, you aren't able to understand the Word of God, and see The Kingdom. You should apologize to SkepTech, but you probably don't have that much sense. Repent!!!

[Squeaky]

Rambling rambling

[Aimiel]

You're a liar, and don't just smell like smoke, you blow it out of every orifice in your miserable little body.

[Squeaky]

Rambling on and on.

[Spitfire]

I think I will go drink some strawberry milk now. :)

[Squeaky]

Although your reply has no meaning, I guess some just like to talk.

James 3:5-8
5 Even so the tongue is a little member and boasts great things. See how great a forest a little fire kindles!
6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.
7 For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind.
8 But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
(NKJ)

[Spitfire]

What? You've got something against milk?

[koban]

I think I will go drink some strawberry milk now. :)



Mmmmmmm - strawberry milk......

[CRASH]

I like strawberry milk too!

[CRASH]

I had Pizza at Old Chicago last night and a beer from Scottland called Skull Splitter. Ever had it?

[koban]

I had Pizza at Old Chicago last night and a beer from Scottland called Skull Splitter. Ever had it?


Nope - heard of it but never tried it.

[koban]

Boy, I sure wish I had time to spam up Squeaky threads today, but it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood and I'm off!

[CRASH]

Nope - heard of it but never tried it.

Try it sometime. It's really gooood......

[Squeaky]

I want to thank all of you for them milk responses. They are good examples for those who wonder what the milk is all about.

[koban]

Milk - it does a body good!

[Poly]

Ok, squeaky, here's the deal.

I'm going to start deleting any thread you start containing nothing more than a big chunk of cut and paste scripture. This is TOL not Kindergarten. People here are expected to put some effort in defending positions or beliefs.

Get with the program or stop wasting space.

[Squeaky]

Poly I do defend what I post. I defend it by the Holy Spirit. All the verses I post are given to me by the Holy Spirit. I also know it is an unknown tongue to alot of people.

[Squeaky]

MILK (HEARER OF THE WORD)(DISCIPLE)
Matt 13:34-35
34 All these things Jesus spoke to the multitude in parables; and without a parable He did not speak to them,
35 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying: "I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things kept secret from the foundation of the world."
Mark 4:34
34 But without a parable He did not speak to them. And when they were alone, He explained all things to His disciples.
John 16:27
25 "These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; but the time is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but I will tell you plainly about the Father.
26 "In that day you will ask in My name, and I do not say to you that I shall pray the Father for you;
27 "for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me, and have believed that I came forth from God.
1 Cor 3:1-3
1 And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ.
2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able;
3 for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men?
1 Tim 1:6-7
6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
7 desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm.
Heb 5:12-13
12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food.
13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
1 Pet 2:1-2
1 Therefore, laying aside all malice, all guile, hypocrisy, envy, and all evil speaking,
2 as newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby,
John 14:22-25
22 Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, "Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world?"
23 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.
24 "He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.
25 "These things I have spoken to you while being present with you.
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
John 16:7-11
7 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.
8 "And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 "of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
10 "of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;
11 "of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
John 16:1-3
1 "These things I have spoken to you, that you should not be made to stumble.
2 "They will put you out of the synagogues; yes, the time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service.
3 "And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me.
Jude 1:19
19 These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit.
(NKJ)Gal 4:1-5
1 Now I say that the heir, as long as he is a child, does not differ at all from a slave, though he is master of all,
2 but is under guardians and stewards until the time appointed by the father.
3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world.
4 But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law,
5 to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.
1 Cor 13:11-12
11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
Heb 5:13-6:3
13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
1 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,
2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3 And this we will do if God permits.
Phil 3:12-17
12 Not that I have already attained, or am already perfected; but I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me.
13 Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead,
14 I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
15 Therefore let us, as many as are mature, have this mind; and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal even this to you.
16 Nevertheless, to the degree that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us be of the same mind.
17 Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern.
(NKJ) MILK THREE YEARS TO FIND THE HOLY SPIRIT QUOTING VERSES
Luke 13:7-9
7 "Then he said to the keeper of his vineyard, 'Look, for three years I have come seeking fruit on this fig tree and find none. Cut it down; why does it use up the ground?'
8 "But he answered and said to him, 'Sir, let it alone this year also, until I dig around it and fertilize it.
9 'And if it bears fruit, well. But if not, after that you can cut it down.' "
Gal 1:15-19
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb and called me through His grace,
16 to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood,
17 nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.
18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and remained with him fifteen days.
19 But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord's brother.
(NKJ)
XXThere is a milk understanding of the Word and there is a meat understanding of the Word of God. And the devil is always there trying to stir up trouble. Trying to say that one or the other has to be wrong. This just isnt so. Those in the milk can only handle so much. And through sharing the Word some in the milk might pick up on the meat understanding of one verse and the milk understanding of the others verses. But the devil is always there trying to say someone is wrong, this just isnt so. We as in the brotherhood should be witnessing this to beginners(young christians).

Luke 6:46
46 "But why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do the things which I say?
(NKJ)

Matt 7:21-23
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22 "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'
(NKJ)

Matt 16:25
25 "For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
(NKJ)