The Conscious You and the "I Am" Presence
Posted November 18th, 2009 at 05:42 PM by freelight
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The following is a recent message from Mother Mary
I add my own commentary insights in 'purple' thru-out the message.
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Message:
Beloved hearts, in previous releases through my messenger Kim Michaels I brought forward the concept of the Conscious You. The time is now right for me to say somewhat more about this very important aspect of creation.
First of all I would like you to consider the following distinctions we can make regarding the I AM Presence and the Conscious You.
The I AM Presence is designed – the Conscious You is not.
The I AM Presence is finite – the Conscious You is infinite.
The I AM Presence is an individual fragment of 'God', further individualized within the soul-complex of the evolving soul, as they inter-relate and converge in evolutional experience and ascension-potential.
In a very real sense the creation of an I AM Presence is the highest expression of Divine Alchemy. Divine attributes, God-qualities and God-flames are brought together with the precision and elegance of the Divine mathematician, the transcendent harmonies and inspiration of the Divine composer – the I AM Presence is more than just a blueprint, it is the purest creative beauty anywhere in the world of form.
The Conscious You is the pure Divine Awareness – the I AM – focused for the individual Presence.
The following analogy may be useful.
Suppose the most magnificent stained glass window had been constructed and stored in a dark room - let this be the symbol of an I AM Presence held in the Divine womb. Now let the Conscious You be a focused source of purest Divine Light, which illuminates the magnificent creation and sends the glory of its colors out to all who have eyes to see... the Light of Divine Consciousness gives birth to the living I AM Presence.
The Conscious You is the light of life – the power of life. The way in which that life creatively unfolds is an expression of the unique design of the individual I AM Presence. The infinity of Divine Awareness is at the very heart of the I AM Presence, focused for the sake of the individual being.
Now beloved, it may seem very strange from the perspective of your embodied consciousness to think of the mighty I AM Presence as a “step down” in any sense whatsoever – but in fact it is. The Infinite God, Who is the All, takes on finitude through the creation of an I AM Presence. The I AM Presence is a finite form... an individual being alongside other individual beings.
There cannot be individuality without finitude, beloved. This is why it such an illusion to think in dualistic terms of, “Infinite is divine – finite is not divine”. The I AM Presence is a unique and finite expression of the Divine Will, the Divine Love, the Divine Wisdom and all other facets of the One.
Thus you should ponder the fact that the finite can indeed be perfect. Only when finitude is seen as the opposite of infinitude can the concept of the finite be stripped of the garments of perfection. The immaculate concept of the finite creation is indeed perfect, beloved.
What is wonderful is that even in the perfection-sphere of the finite 'I AM', is the ever expanding potential of Infinite. - evolving souls choosing eternal survival in the divine will and love, further draw from the creativity of Infinity.
Finitude is perceived by the illusory consciousness of duality as expressing limitation, but finitude at the level of the I AM Presence is simply the in-division of God to create unique individuals.
Truly God is the indivisible God and thus God in-divides and is not divided. This process creates the polar-dynamic realm.
In God Reality there is the Allness and there is the polar-dynamic creation, where the dynamic polarities of Alpha and Omega, Masculine and Feminine, Yang and Yin, operate in glorious harmony. With the illusion of the dualistic consciousness, (which has no ultimate reality), the polar-dynamic creation is perverted into the perception of dualistic opposites.
Yes! God the Infinite One in the creative process of Self-unfoldment and encounter... in-divides himself as all creative divisions, distributions, offsprings, multiplications of consciousness(in-form-ation) emenate from within God. So within the Universe, com-plexing out as a Multiverse,... is God individualizing himself within many universes and life-forms, engaging a process of Self-discovery and innovation.
I would now like us to consider the creation of an individual soul vehicle for the purposes of embodiment in the material universe.
When the I AM Presence wills to create a vehicle by means of which its consciousness can embody in the lower vibrations and denser energies of the material universe, it creates a soul. The soul-vehicle is a highly complex matrix of energy and information, comprised of the upper and lower etheric body, the mental body, the emotional body and the physical body, along with a long-term memory facility that in some ways is analogous to a computer’s hard drive. If we continue with the computer analogy just a little farther, the embodied consciousness for a given lifetime would be likened to the RAM, the Random Access Memory.
Now since the soul requires consciousness and this consciousness comes ultimately from the Conscious You, the question must be asked as to “where” the Conscious You is located during embodiment. There is, ideally, a figure 8 flow of energy and information between the soul and the I AM Presence, creating a nexus point at the very heart of the configuration. This nexus point is dimensionless and beyond all concept of dimension – it is simultaneously the Void and the All. Only Infinite Being can Be here. The Conscious You is located at this dimensionless point when the You is in material embodiment. Truly, as is stated in the Rosary of Creative Freedom of Will, the infinite IS in your heart, beloved!
I have said that the nexus point is simultaneously the Void and the All. In the world of form this translates to the nexus point being simultaneously the contracting force, (or womb), of the Divine Mother and the expansive creative force of the Divine Father. All energy and information qualified by the embodied consciousness in such a manner that it can ascend to the I AM Presence is interfaced with the nexus via the Christ Self. The Christ Self is an in-division of Jesus’ own consciousness, given as a gift to all souls, which acts as an interface between the finitude of the soul and the infinity of the Conscious You. As we consider the ascending energy and information from the soul, we can think of the Christ Self as a step-up transformer, which operates as and when the Conscious You identifies with it. When those energies are released again from the womb of Mother, by the expansive power of Father to continue their ascension beyond the nexus, the Buddha Self acts as an interface with the I AM Presence. The I AM Presence multiplies what has been qualified by the Christ Consciousness active in the soul and sends these energies back to the nexus via the Buddha Self. When the multiplied energies emerge from the womb of Mother again the Christ Self acts as a step-down transformer, allowing the embodied consciousness to receive the blessed multiplication.
I said that the Christ Self only operates when the Conscious You identifies with it. The question may be asked, why the Conscious You might NOT identify with the Christ Self? The answer is that the Conscious You has absolute, (and thus unconditional), respect for the will of the embodied consciousness.
The Alpha manifestation of the Conscious You in the world of form is always beyond the material realm and sustains the vital link of the individual nexus point with the I AM Presence.
The Omega manifestation of the Conscious You is the Mother Light, that presents Herself as a blank canvass for the thought forms of the embodied consciousness. If the embodied consciousness is determined to identify itself as a being separated from God - and as such having nothing to do with the Christ Consciousness, the Kingdom of God within - then the Mother Light, in Her unconditional acceptance, outpictures these thought forms even though the Christ is Her very own Son.
Hence the importance of conscious attunement with Spirit. Love affords itself until conscious union is embraced of its healing at-one-ment. How long Love will wait, only the eternal Heart and Soul can know, considering the free will liberties and allowances that affect a soul's condition and destiny. It is well enough to know the Infinite always preeminates and transcends the finite, so the keeping of divine Providence is always in tune with the most perfect measurements of Justice and Mercy.
Truly my heart is the heart of the Divine Mother and I long for the freedom of each and every one of my sons and daughters.
In true and pure Love
I AM Mother Mary
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The Mighty I Am Presence
The following is a recent message from Mother Mary
I add my own commentary insights in 'purple' thru-out the message.
~*~*~
Message:
Beloved hearts, in previous releases through my messenger Kim Michaels I brought forward the concept of the Conscious You. The time is now right for me to say somewhat more about this very important aspect of creation.
First of all I would like you to consider the following distinctions we can make regarding the I AM Presence and the Conscious You.
The I AM Presence is designed – the Conscious You is not.
The I AM Presence is finite – the Conscious You is infinite.
The I AM Presence is an individual fragment of 'God', further individualized within the soul-complex of the evolving soul, as they inter-relate and converge in evolutional experience and ascension-potential.
In a very real sense the creation of an I AM Presence is the highest expression of Divine Alchemy. Divine attributes, God-qualities and God-flames are brought together with the precision and elegance of the Divine mathematician, the transcendent harmonies and inspiration of the Divine composer – the I AM Presence is more than just a blueprint, it is the purest creative beauty anywhere in the world of form.
The Conscious You is the pure Divine Awareness – the I AM – focused for the individual Presence.
The following analogy may be useful.
Suppose the most magnificent stained glass window had been constructed and stored in a dark room - let this be the symbol of an I AM Presence held in the Divine womb. Now let the Conscious You be a focused source of purest Divine Light, which illuminates the magnificent creation and sends the glory of its colors out to all who have eyes to see... the Light of Divine Consciousness gives birth to the living I AM Presence.
The Conscious You is the light of life – the power of life. The way in which that life creatively unfolds is an expression of the unique design of the individual I AM Presence. The infinity of Divine Awareness is at the very heart of the I AM Presence, focused for the sake of the individual being.
Now beloved, it may seem very strange from the perspective of your embodied consciousness to think of the mighty I AM Presence as a “step down” in any sense whatsoever – but in fact it is. The Infinite God, Who is the All, takes on finitude through the creation of an I AM Presence. The I AM Presence is a finite form... an individual being alongside other individual beings.
There cannot be individuality without finitude, beloved. This is why it such an illusion to think in dualistic terms of, “Infinite is divine – finite is not divine”. The I AM Presence is a unique and finite expression of the Divine Will, the Divine Love, the Divine Wisdom and all other facets of the One.
Thus you should ponder the fact that the finite can indeed be perfect. Only when finitude is seen as the opposite of infinitude can the concept of the finite be stripped of the garments of perfection. The immaculate concept of the finite creation is indeed perfect, beloved.
What is wonderful is that even in the perfection-sphere of the finite 'I AM', is the ever expanding potential of Infinite. - evolving souls choosing eternal survival in the divine will and love, further draw from the creativity of Infinity.
Finitude is perceived by the illusory consciousness of duality as expressing limitation, but finitude at the level of the I AM Presence is simply the in-division of God to create unique individuals.
Truly God is the indivisible God and thus God in-divides and is not divided. This process creates the polar-dynamic realm.
In God Reality there is the Allness and there is the polar-dynamic creation, where the dynamic polarities of Alpha and Omega, Masculine and Feminine, Yang and Yin, operate in glorious harmony. With the illusion of the dualistic consciousness, (which has no ultimate reality), the polar-dynamic creation is perverted into the perception of dualistic opposites.
Yes! God the Infinite One in the creative process of Self-unfoldment and encounter... in-divides himself as all creative divisions, distributions, offsprings, multiplications of consciousness(in-form-ation) emenate from within God. So within the Universe, com-plexing out as a Multiverse,... is God individualizing himself within many universes and life-forms, engaging a process of Self-discovery and innovation.
I would now like us to consider the creation of an individual soul vehicle for the purposes of embodiment in the material universe.
When the I AM Presence wills to create a vehicle by means of which its consciousness can embody in the lower vibrations and denser energies of the material universe, it creates a soul. The soul-vehicle is a highly complex matrix of energy and information, comprised of the upper and lower etheric body, the mental body, the emotional body and the physical body, along with a long-term memory facility that in some ways is analogous to a computer’s hard drive. If we continue with the computer analogy just a little farther, the embodied consciousness for a given lifetime would be likened to the RAM, the Random Access Memory.
Now since the soul requires consciousness and this consciousness comes ultimately from the Conscious You, the question must be asked as to “where” the Conscious You is located during embodiment. There is, ideally, a figure 8 flow of energy and information between the soul and the I AM Presence, creating a nexus point at the very heart of the configuration. This nexus point is dimensionless and beyond all concept of dimension – it is simultaneously the Void and the All. Only Infinite Being can Be here. The Conscious You is located at this dimensionless point when the You is in material embodiment. Truly, as is stated in the Rosary of Creative Freedom of Will, the infinite IS in your heart, beloved!
I have said that the nexus point is simultaneously the Void and the All. In the world of form this translates to the nexus point being simultaneously the contracting force, (or womb), of the Divine Mother and the expansive creative force of the Divine Father. All energy and information qualified by the embodied consciousness in such a manner that it can ascend to the I AM Presence is interfaced with the nexus via the Christ Self. The Christ Self is an in-division of Jesus’ own consciousness, given as a gift to all souls, which acts as an interface between the finitude of the soul and the infinity of the Conscious You. As we consider the ascending energy and information from the soul, we can think of the Christ Self as a step-up transformer, which operates as and when the Conscious You identifies with it. When those energies are released again from the womb of Mother, by the expansive power of Father to continue their ascension beyond the nexus, the Buddha Self acts as an interface with the I AM Presence. The I AM Presence multiplies what has been qualified by the Christ Consciousness active in the soul and sends these energies back to the nexus via the Buddha Self. When the multiplied energies emerge from the womb of Mother again the Christ Self acts as a step-down transformer, allowing the embodied consciousness to receive the blessed multiplication.
I said that the Christ Self only operates when the Conscious You identifies with it. The question may be asked, why the Conscious You might NOT identify with the Christ Self? The answer is that the Conscious You has absolute, (and thus unconditional), respect for the will of the embodied consciousness.
The Alpha manifestation of the Conscious You in the world of form is always beyond the material realm and sustains the vital link of the individual nexus point with the I AM Presence.
The Omega manifestation of the Conscious You is the Mother Light, that presents Herself as a blank canvass for the thought forms of the embodied consciousness. If the embodied consciousness is determined to identify itself as a being separated from God - and as such having nothing to do with the Christ Consciousness, the Kingdom of God within - then the Mother Light, in Her unconditional acceptance, outpictures these thought forms even though the Christ is Her very own Son.
Hence the importance of conscious attunement with Spirit. Love affords itself until conscious union is embraced of its healing at-one-ment. How long Love will wait, only the eternal Heart and Soul can know, considering the free will liberties and allowances that affect a soul's condition and destiny. It is well enough to know the Infinite always preeminates and transcends the finite, so the keeping of divine Providence is always in tune with the most perfect measurements of Justice and Mercy.
Truly my heart is the heart of the Divine Mother and I long for the freedom of each and every one of my sons and daughters.
In true and pure Love
I AM Mother Mary
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The Mighty I Am Presence
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Hi Paul
 I wanted to comment on your first comment: "The I AM Presence is an individual fragment of 'God', further individualized within the soul-complex of the evolving soul, as they inter-relate and converge in evolutional experience and ascension-potential." It may be that this comment comes very much from the perspective of the Urantia revelations. I have begun the process of educating myself in that paradigm, but I am still largely ignorant of it at this time. Some of the things I will say here may seem to be contradictions of what you state in your comment, but I would make it clear that I am in no way saying, "this is incorrect", or, "you have this wrong"... I'm just going to try to express where my understanding of the concepts seems to differ from yours. I understand the I AM Presence to be an individualization of God, rather than an individual fragment of God. The idea of a fragment of God does not ring true to me because it carries with it the idea that God can be fragmented. A fragment is usually associated in my mind with a piece-broken-off... You go on to say that the I AM Presence is further individualized when the soul is formed. I see the soul-vehicle as an energetic and informational environment into which the Consciousness of the I AM Presence descends. This environment includes the physical body - and thus I see the physical Body as one facet of the soul. I'd be interested in your view of that. You say the soul evolves. I would certainly say that it can evolve, but I would also say that it can degenerate and descend in vibration, depending on what the state of the embodied consciousness is. I agree that the I AM Presence and the soul inter-relate. This can be all one way, however. There is a continual stream of energy and information that descends from the I AM Presence, via the Conscious You, to the soul. Without this constant down-flow there could be no soul. As Mother Mary says in the message, the Omega aspect of the Conscious You in the world of form is the Mother Light itself. My understanding is that the flow of the Mother Light represents the talents in Jesus' parable... we can multiply our talents by qualifying the "blank canvass" of the Mother Light in oneness with the Christ Consciousness. Everything we create with the Mother Light and our individual Christ Consciousness is able to ascend back to the I AM Presence, where it is multiplied. Many people never qualify the Mother Light with the Christ Consciousness and nothing can ascend back to the I AM Presence to be multiplied. This is when the talent is "hidden in the earth". So for a soul to continue in embodiment there will always be a down-flow but not necessarily an up-flow. There IS however a point of convergence... and that is the Conscious You. |
Posted November 21st, 2009 at 11:57 AM by John Mortimer
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Hi again, Paul...
Having done some more reading in the Urantia revelations I would suggest that what is meant there by , "a fragment of God", correlates most closely with the AM concept of the God-flame. The God-flame is pre-personal and is a consequence of the design of the I AM Presence. However the I AM Presence IS personal, growing and conscious within the limits of the Spiritual Realm. This limitation of consciousness is chosen by the I AM Presence - it is not aware of the lower vibrations of the matter realm, although of course the Conscious You is. The I AM Presence is not aware of the ego and the duality consciousness, but the Conscious You is. In a very real sense we can say that we are 2 finite existences in 2 "places" at once. In the Conscious You we are infinite and simply One. Furthermore the I AM Presence is beyond the duality of the individual vs collective split - and is thus a polar-dynamic individual collective. |
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Posted November 23rd, 2009 at 12:03 PM by John Mortimer
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Consciousness and its modificationsHi John,
I understand the idea of a 'God-fragment' or a 'Father-fragment' as indwelling the mind of all qualified evolving mortals is 'dualistic', yet the Universal Father is ever One Unified Being, and only individes/distributes himself within individual life expressions. The Urantia Papers uses dualistic terms for our own dimensional understanding and point-reference. That infinite God-presence within is the Thought-Adjuster (Father-fragment, Mytstery-monitor, God-flame)...also referenced as the 'I Am' presence. So, we are touching on slight perspective naunces of the same 'thing', within our reference points, which will be resolved with further defining The 'Conscious You' concept may need further clarification, beyond it merely being the Identity and Light of Pure-God-Consciousness, which is slighly modified in the 'I Am' Presence within the evolving soul. I agree the 'soul' is an 'animate interface', and the physical body is a part of that 'soul' (at least while incarnated). Since All pertaining to the soul is "consciousness" we are articulating differing aspects or qualities of consciousness. Essentially we have shared the same things, although varying in some contextual-perspectives of 'process'. We can continue here, or summarize and link to this sharing, then continue in my I Am thread, for easier dialogue relay. pj |
Posted November 23rd, 2009 at 01:57 PM by freelight
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Hi Paul,
There are some fundamentally important anthropological issues being addressed here. Just for clarification - when I use the expression "material realm/universe/world" I always mean the entire spectrum below the Spiritual realm. i.e. Physical, Emotional, Mental, Identity. I'd really like your thoughts on the following statement: The I AM Presence is a direct and immediate presence in the Spiritual realm only; it is an indirect presence in the Material realm, mediated by the Conscious You. By way of what is (hopefully) an elucidating reference, I will paste here part of a response I gave to dear Janise at BeingMoreIAM... "This is an important question as to where conscience comes from and the sense of right and wrong. The soul-vehicle is initially created by the I AM Presence and therefore has the character of the Presence woven into the energetic and informational structure of the soul. As the embodied soul consciousness moves along in its journey - creatively making decisions - it alters the structure of the soul-vehicle. Initially, "conscience", is simply one informational aspect of the soul-vehicle in which the embodied consciousness resides. The decisions made by the embodied soul consciousness simply reflect the nature of the soul-vehicle. The question becomes, after many embodiments, how much of the original structure created by the I AM Presence remains... hopefully much and hopefully much that is a creative and progressive expansion of that original structure. Sadly - for those, such as ourselves, who took on the initiation of the duality consciousness before we were ready for it - the creation of an individualized duality consciousness, (which is what the ego is), produces the reverse process... the disintegration of the original structure. Thus the conscience of an individual can become completely warped. There were many Nazis, for example, who would genuinely have experienced a "bad conscience" if they had not actively persecuted Jews in the 1930s & 40s. There are souls who develop a strong theft habit and actually experience a "bad conscience" when they have the opportunity to steal but don't take that opportunity. So the I AM Presence does exert an upward influence... but only by means of the degree of integrity of the original soul structure. (This applies not only to conscience, of course, but also to the innate drive toward self transcendence). The dualistic consciousness of the ego could therefore utterly destroy a soul simply through the process of deconstructing every last nuance of the the original soul design. The Conscious You provides the link between the soul, (in whatever state), and the I AM Presence. The Conscious You provides immediate access to infinity and God. Oh, how grateful we should be - how ready to praise - God for the marvelous design of His Creation.... and how fitting it is to bless that Creation, Who is our Divine Mother!" Btw... I feel a bit pompous quoting myself as an elucidating reference, but I honestly am not aware of anyone else who has this perspective at this time. |
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Posted November 25th, 2009 at 07:12 PM by John Mortimer
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Ehyeh Asher EhyehQuote:
I'd really like your thoughts on the following statement:
The I AM Presence is a direct and immediate presence in the Spiritual realm only; it is an indirect presence in the Material realm, mediated by the Conscious You. By way of what is (hopefully) an elucidating reference, I will paste here part of a response I gave to dear Janise at BeingMoreIAM... "This is an important question as to where conscience comes from and the sense of right and wrong. The soul-vehicle is initially created by the I AM Presence and therefore has the character of the Presence woven into the energetic and informational structure of the soul. As the embodied soul consciousness moves along in its journey - creatively making decisions - it alters the structure of the soul-vehicle. Initially, "conscience", is simply one informational aspect of the soul-vehicle in which the embodied consciousness resides. The decisions made by the embodied soul consciousness simply reflect the nature of the soul-vehicle. The question becomes, after many embodiments, how much of the original structure created by the I AM Presence remains... hopefully much and hopefully much that is a creative and progressive expansion of that original structure. Sadly - for those, such as ourselves, who took on the initiation of the duality consciousness before we were ready for it - the creation of an individualized duality consciousness, (which is what the ego is), produces the reverse process... the disintegration of the original structure. Does the original structure of the I AM disentegrate or is it more the 'ego-self' operates within a false structure which is 'unreal' and so is 'dis-integrated' in nature already? Quote:
Thus the conscience of an individual can become completely warped. There were many Nazis, for example, who would genuinely have experienced a "bad conscience" if they had not actively persecuted Jews in the 1930s & 40s. There are souls who develop a strong theft habit and actually experience a "bad conscience" when they have the opportunity to steal but don't take that opportunity.
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So the I AM Presence does exert an upward influence... but only by means of the degree of integrity of the original soul structure. (This applies not only to conscience, of course, but also to the innate drive toward self transcendence).
The dualistic consciousness of the ego could therefore utterly destroy a soul simply through the process of deconstructing every last nuance of the the original soul design. Quote:
The Conscious You provides the link between the soul, (in whatever state), and the I AM Presence. The Conscious You provides immediate access to infinity and God.
"I Am Presence" chart. Hindu Version Just a few dimensional construct issues I presume as 'consciousness' interprets itself or 'relays' thru the various templates. In any case,...blessings to your I Am Presence ! pj |
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Posted November 25th, 2009 at 08:15 PM by freelight
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Does the original structure of the I AM disentegrate or is it more the 'ego-self' operates within a false structure which is 'unreal' and so is 'dis-integrated' in nature already? The I AM Presence creates the soul-vehicle by: 1. designing it in the Spiritual Realm 2. releasing the design to the Conscious You (Bear in mind that the Conscious You is the Conscious You of the I AM Presence as well as the soul) So the Conscious You brings the original soul-vehicle into existence by: 1. providing the matter light for the structures 2. projecting the design upon the matter light The Conscious You then ditributes ItSelf between the I AM Presence and the soul in a way that can be envisioned as a figure-8 flow, as described by Mother Mary. So, after the soul is created: The Alpha manifestation of the Conscious You is the I AM Presence in the Spiritual realm The Omega manifestation of the Conscious You is the soul consciousness in the material realm The Conscious You flows between the Spiritual realm and the material realm, maintaining Its eternal infinity at the nexus point of the figure-8 flow. The original structure of the soul-vehicle can now expand and grow OR it can experience the beginning of a real process of disintegration, depending on the consciousness of the soul. The disintegration is a long process, (over many lifetimes), but it is existential as well as experiential. It is not necessarily a case of either/or... there can be expansion & growth and disintegration observed in any given time frame. Quote: Previous acts or karmic over-lays may seem to affect our 'conscience' or its ability to react or 'repent', but how much, I'm not sure. - can the conscience be recovered/restored by Love? Most assuredly. Quote: - and is there a 'point of no-return' after a final choice of 'self-destruction' is 'sealed' as it were, and the soul undergoes a final death of sorts? (the second death). Not really... the Second Death is always consciously chosen by the soul. Here is another quote of mine from BeingMoreIAM: because of the eternal reality of the Conscious You the indirect connection to the I AM Presence can never be lost so long as the soul exists. That's why Jesus has made it clear that before the second death, a soul will always be able to perceive exactly what the God-reality of it's situation is. If a soul passes into the second death it is always because it chooses that option... the second death is never imposed as some sort of ultimate punishment. A soul such as Hitler or Lucifer would choose the option because: 1. the prospects for any future embodiment are too dismal to realistically entertain, given the karmic returns due 2. the genuine desire for non-being due to the hatred of the realization that existence is always IN God 3. because the defiance-to-the-end -"I'd rather not exist at all, than have to exist with you!" - gesture is a gratifying demonstration of utter loathing and contempt for all that is Divine A soul such as Geraldine Innocente might choose the second death because a profound soul-tiredness leads to the assessment that it would be better to allow the I AM Presence to create a new soul to replace the current one and start again from scratch with a totally clean sheet, as it were. Quote: - I'd like to hold out a universal salvation for all, where LOVE ultimately prevails and divine Will triumphs, but if free will does have power to forfeit the life-potential of an individual life-stream, then it may be so. Yes, I understand... hopefully the quote above helps? Quote: But I'm not sure the convoluted ego can affect the original integrity(reality) of the I Am's original infrastrucure within the soul's constitution. The Hindu view is that the 'atman' is essentially the same as 'Brahman' so ever maintains its original purity, no matter the distortion of the 'ego', whose nature anyways is 'illusory'. Ironically, it is precisely because the atman IS of the same essence as Brahman that the ego can indeed affect the energetic and informational structure of the soul IF the soul consciousness identifies with the individualized duality consciousness that constitutes the ego. The power of the soul consciousness is so great that its flame can either warm, comfort and illuminate OR it can become a wildfire of destruction. Quote: I suppose it’s most interesting how we designate or appropriate 'consciousness' in its various modifications or 'qualities' within whatever interface or context they exist or function. How we identify these will vary in our applied schools, so still tinkering a bit with the 'Conscious You' as being a part of the entire conscious experience of the soul's sojourn. On a general level I tend to Identify as Consciousness itself,....so this in the ascended master schools will be mediated thru the higher I Am Presence, Holy Christ Self (Higher Self serving as mediator) and the evolving soul in physical form. The Conscious You can identify as consciousness itself... for it IS. Quote: In any case,...blessings to your I Am Presence ! ...and to yours! |
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Posted November 26th, 2009 at 09:10 AM by John Mortimer
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