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Atheist Admits Assumptions About Evil - June 15th, 2006, 11:22 PM

Atheist Admits Assumptions About Evil

Thursday June 15th, 2006. This is show #119.

Summary:
* Atheists claim The Problem of Evil disproves the existence of a good God, who cannot exist, they argue, since the world is filled with evil. Well, after Bob rehashes with atheist Dr. John Henderson another fallacy, that you can only know that which your five senses tell you, the discussion turns to The Problem of Evil and this atheist makes some admissions that powerfully refute his own argument.
Today's Resource: Read and enjoy the comfortable and helpful 170-page manuscript version of Bob Enyart's Does God Exist? debate against Zakath, TOL's resident atheist!





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June 16th, 2006, 09:22 AM

I find it remarkable that people actually subject themselves to interviews with Bob Enyart when he so easily demolishes their arguments against the existence of God.

Even fool was able to do better than Dr. Henderson (which admittedly is not saying much).





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June 16th, 2006, 09:38 AM

That was a fantastic show. Bob Enyart was really well prepared for that one. Another win for the good guys!





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June 18th, 2006, 01:47 PM

A must listen! The second half especially.



   
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June 18th, 2006, 02:10 PM

i can't get the show to play

i doubt i'm missing much. from what i have heard, the "debates" are nothing more than Bob ignoring the opponent's position, he redefines their position, and then (while speaking over the opponent the entire time) Bob creates a rebuttal to his false reinterpretation of his opponent's position.

i don't know why people bother with Enyart either Bob.





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June 18th, 2006, 03:29 PM

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i don't know why people bother with Enyart either Bob.
It is remarkable, but the reason seems to be that Bob is a pastor and many people believe that it will be a lark to demolish such an "easy" target.

The classic case was when many years ago Bob wiped up the floor with Eugenie Scott in their debate, similar to what happened with Dr. Henderson. Eugenie had totally underestimated "the fundamentalist" TV talk show host. I suspect Dr. Henderson had also erred in his estimation.





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June 18th, 2006, 04:26 PM

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It is remarkable, but the reason seems to be that Bob is a pastor and many people believe that it will be a lark to demolish such an "easy" target.

The classic case was when many years ago Bob wiped up the floor with Eugenie Scott in their debate, similar to what happened with Dr. Henderson. Eugenie had totally underestimated "the fundamentalist" TV talk show host. I suspect Dr. Henderson had also erred in his estimation.
So true. Michael Shermer was another fine example. He didn't even have the guts to stick it out through the whole show.

And speaking of guys who couldn't stick it out to the end, let's not forget Zakath!



   
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June 18th, 2006, 04:31 PM

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It is remarkable, but the reason seems to be that Bob is a pastor and many people believe that it will be a lark to demolish such an "easy" target.
there's nothing easy about having a raving lunatic talk over you, deliberately redefine your position and then condemn you based on that false definition. there's nothing about what Enyart believes or posits that's hard to demolish. getting around his "style" is the difficult part.





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June 26th, 2006, 11:31 AM

Wow, Christianity is more than just raw intellectual power and reason.
It is amazing to me that even “good” and moral atheists, not nicer than God atheists, atheists that even know that homosexuality is wrong cannot reason it out.



   
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June 26th, 2006, 02:32 PM

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there's nothing about what Enyart believes or posits that's hard to demolish.
Then why don't you call him up and do it. 1-800-8-ENYART.



   
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June 26th, 2006, 03:15 PM

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Then why don't you call him up and do it. 1-800-8-ENYART.
Are you kidding?

For all of the reasons I listed above Jack.






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June 27th, 2006, 04:46 AM

Atheist Rules for Debate

When your side is on the losing end of a debate:

Quote:
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there's nothing easy about having a raving lunatic talk over you,
1. Claim your opponent is mentally deranged.
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deliberately redefine your position and then condemn you based on that false definition.
2. Claim your opponent is using strawman arguments especially when he has accurately stated your case.
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there's nothing about what Enyart believes or posits that's hard to demolish. getting around his "style" is the difficult part.
3. Claim that factors totally outside the debated issue prejudiced the debate "causing" one to lose.







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June 27th, 2006, 04:56 AM

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3. Claim that factors totally outside the debated issue prejudiced the debate "causing" one to lose.
its not fair... he used the truth to make points....





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June 28th, 2006, 02:30 PM

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Atheist Rules for Debate

When your side is on the losing end of a debate:

1. Claim your opponent is mentally deranged.
1. I'm not an atheist

2. Bob and I weren't debating

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2. Claim your opponent is using strawman arguments especially when he has accurately stated your case.
Like I said, Bob and I weren't debating. I was telling people why I wouldn't waste my time and breath on him. Fortunately he has a radio show and leaves the proof of my assertions on the record. No one has to take your word for it, or mine. They can find out for themselves that I'm not mischaracterizing Enyart

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3. Claim that factors totally outside the debated issue prejudiced the debate "causing" one to lose.

I'm not the one who talks over his debate opponents, that's Enyart.





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June 26th, 2006, 10:52 PM

You're a coward, allsmiles.





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