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Before the Beer at WH remember this - July 29th, 2009, 07:37 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH6SjZ5wEzw

A former Superior Court Judge, constitutional law professor
and the Senior Judicial Analyst for the Fox News Channel
since 1998 says based on Sgt. Crowley's police report that
the arrest of Professor Gates was legally improper.

http://www.judgenap.com/judge.shtml



   
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July 29th, 2009, 08:25 AM

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July 29th, 2009, 08:47 AM

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Where've ya been, mate?

as important as TOL is - i was busy putting a black man in the white house and pushing for health care reform in the states.



   
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July 29th, 2009, 09:07 AM

OK, so the officer technically made a mistake. But I think he could make a case that there was probable cause to go into the house, since someone reported a break-in there.

Given that the arrest was for behavior on public property, it was improper. Gates wasn't on public property, he was in his own home, or on his own front yard. No doubt, that's why his supervisors overruled Crowley and dropped the charges. But since Gates isn't pushing the point, who cares?



   
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July 29th, 2009, 09:35 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH6SjZ5wEzw

A former Superior Court Judge, constitutional law professor
and the Senior Judicial Analyst for the Fox News Channel
since 1998 says based on Sgt. Crowley's police report that
the arrest of Professor Gates was legally improper.

http://www.judgenap.com/judge.shtml

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OK, so the officer technically made a mistake. But I think he could make a case that there was probable cause to go into the house, since someone reported a break-in there.

Given that the arrest was for behavior on public property, it was improper. Gates wasn't on public property, he was in his own home, or on his own front yard. No doubt, that's why his supervisors overruled Crowley and dropped the charges. But since Gates isn't pushing the point, who cares?
Although the president has slightly backed away from use of the word - "stupidly". From a legal viewpoint if not a political viewpoint, the word was accurate.

we all should try to make the most of this "teachable moment".



   
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July 29th, 2009, 09:51 AM

Looking at the background of the arresting officer, it's pretty hard to paint him as a racist. He made some incorrect assumptions, and he let an angry citizen goad him into an arrest that was probably not a good one.

We expect police officers to make difficult Constitutional and enforcement decisions on the spur of the moment. And we expect perfection; they are supposed to get it right, every time.

I'm inclined to give them some slack if they mess up every now and then, unless it can be shown to be ill-intentioned.



   
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July 29th, 2009, 10:53 AM

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OK, so the officer technically made a mistake. But I think he could make a case that there was probable cause to go into the house, since someone reported a break-in there.

Given that the arrest was for behavior on public property, it was improper. Gates wasn't on public property, he was in his own home, or on his own front yard. No doubt, that's why his supervisors overruled Crowley and dropped the charges. But since Gates isn't pushing the point, who cares?

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But since Gates isn't pushing the point, who cares?

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who cares?

Now, let this issue DIE.



   
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Now, let this issue DIE.
Now what fun would there be in that?





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Now, let this issue DIE.
this issue (at least for the media) won't die until after the "beer" moment on 7/30/09 at 6pm.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/27/gat...ref=newssearch



   
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July 29th, 2009, 09:20 AM

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putting a black man in the white house
Good on you. A valiant effort even if it were in vain.

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You guys have health care?

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July 29th, 2009, 10:09 AM

I've heard lawyers and judges on Fox News say just the opposite of your original comment.

I think the Prez. and his buddy should apologize to the policeman, and remember what it actually means to be law abiding and to up-hold the laws of our nation... instead of jumping to conclusions and mouthing off.

But then again, our government doesn't even respect our constitution any more ... so why why should I expect any respect of law enforcement officers.



   
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July 29th, 2009, 10:26 AM

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I've heard lawyers and judges on Fox News say just the opposite of your original comment.
Gee, that's a surprise. You can find a lawyer to assume any position for a price.

But since the people involved seemed to be reconciled, and the police unions were pleased at the outcome, it's going to be hard to stir up racial conflict on this one.

Not that some racists won't try, of course.



   
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Gee, that's a surprise. You can find a lawyer to assume any position for a price.

But since the people involved seemed to be reconciled, and the police unions were pleased at the outcome, it's going to be hard to stir up racial conflict on this one.

Not that some racists won't try, of course.
Agree, agree, and agree.



   
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