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March 2nd, 2011, 10:20 AM
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Regarding attending church service the Catholic church says.... “Those who deliberately fail in this obligation commit grave sin”
What say ye?
If one is Catholic, on should follow the rules and regs of the Catholic Church. I suppose this means that Catholics who don't attend church are subject to some "grave sin" indictment. It's a church rule, nothing more.
Necessary for salvation? There is nothing in the Word of God that says this, commands it, or even implies it. John 3:16-17 (KJV) is the rule for salvation.
Personally? I'm "in church" most every day. "In church" we study and learn more about the Word of God. During the week, we gather, discuss, and pray at various unscheduled times. Matthew 18:20 (KJV)
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March 2nd, 2011, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by chrysostom
not if you repent just before you die
That does earn you a good long stay in purgatory though.
"God foreknows nothing by contingency, but that he foresees, purposes, and does all things according to his immutable, eternal and infallible will. By this thunderbolt, "free will" is thrown prostrate and utterly dashed to pieces. Those therefore, who would assert "free will," must either deny this thunderbolt, or pretend not to see it, or push it from them." -Martin Luther
"The Church has surrendered her once lofty concept of God and has substituted for it one so low, so ignoble, as to be utterly unworthy of thinking, worshiping men. This she has not done deliberately, but little by little and without her knowledge; and her very unawareness only makes her situation all the more tragic." -A.W. Tozer
"He that has doctrinal knowledge and speculation only, without affection, never is engaged in the business of religion." -Jonathan Edwards
Going to church does not make you a Christian anymore than going to a barn makes you a cow or going to McDonald's makes you a hamburger (Jn. 1:12; Jn. 3:16; I Jn. 5:11-13; Rom. 10:9-10).
Church attendance is important. Being in right vertical relationship with God naturally leads to right horizontal relationships in the Body of Christ. The Lone Rangers on TOL are unbiblical in their avoidance of local churches just because they don't agree with their pet, sectarian views. Christ loved the Church and died for it (Eph. 5). The local church is emphasized numerous times in the NT, but we are part of His invisible, universal church through faith in Christ alone (salvific issue vs church attendance).
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
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March 2nd, 2011, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Knight
The TheologyOnline.com TOPIC OF THE DAY for March 2nd, 2011 11:11 AM
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Nope. Salvation is by Grace through faith alone and it is not our own doing, it is the gift of God (Eph. 2:8).
We should desire to meet together though:
Heb 10:24 And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works,
Heb 10:25 not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.
"Church" is not a building, but wherever believers choose to congregate and "stir up one another to love and good works".
"God foreknows nothing by contingency, but that he foresees, purposes, and does all things according to his immutable, eternal and infallible will. By this thunderbolt, "free will" is thrown prostrate and utterly dashed to pieces. Those therefore, who would assert "free will," must either deny this thunderbolt, or pretend not to see it, or push it from them." -Martin Luther
"The Church has surrendered her once lofty concept of God and has substituted for it one so low, so ignoble, as to be utterly unworthy of thinking, worshiping men. This she has not done deliberately, but little by little and without her knowledge; and her very unawareness only makes her situation all the more tragic." -A.W. Tozer
"He that has doctrinal knowledge and speculation only, without affection, never is engaged in the business of religion." -Jonathan Edwards
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Ephesians 3:9: "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
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March 2nd, 2011, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Town Heretic
Define church for this purpose.
Good request. Most consider attending church gathering in a building with stained glass windows, an "altar", and a phallic shaped steeple on top in honor of Baal.
1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)
Don't mix them, leavening the whole household of God. Luke 13:21 (KJV)
Good request. Most consider attending church gathering in a building with stained glass windows, an "altar", and a phallic shaped steeple on top.
Interesting. My winter writing room has four hanging stained glass windows that were once in an old nearby church. Lovely light through them. I don't know if my desk qualifies as an alter though. No steeple either, so there goes the hindmost.
Good request. Most consider attending church gathering in a building with stained glass windows, an "altar", and a phallic shaped steeple on top in honor of Baal.
oh wow! I didn't actually realize that people still believe steeples are "phallic" symbols!!! Tell me it ain't so!!!!!!!
Slogan/motto:
Ephesians 3:9: "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
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March 2nd, 2011, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by red cardinal
oh wow! I didn't actually realize that people still believe steeples are "phallic" symbols!!! Tell me it ain't so!!!!!!!
What are steeples? What do they symbolize? What is their purpose?
1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)
Don't mix them, leavening the whole household of God. Luke 13:21 (KJV)
Good request. Most consider attending church gathering in a building with stained glass windows, an "altar", and a phallic shaped steeple on top in honor of Baal.
Oh brother...
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
Heb 10:24 And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works,
Heb 10:25 not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.
Your point is correct this time. But this verse is not about "church" on Sunday.
No steeple either, so there goes the hindmost. 
Tell me it ain't so!!!!!!! 
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