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July 21st, 2011, 01:50 PM

Why are there so many Christian denominations? Great question! I've always wondered why and would love to see some sort of breakdown of the various denomination and what sets them apart.

Is that necessarily a bad thing? Not at all





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July 21st, 2011, 02:13 PM

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Why are there so many Christian denominations? Great question! I've always wondered why and would love to see some sort of breakdown of the various denomination and what sets them apart.

Is that necessarily a bad thing? Not at all
A list of a lot of the Christian denominations is found here broken down into groups by major differences.





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July 21st, 2011, 02:35 PM

There are so many "denominations" basically because of differences in interpretations of Scripture and dispute over church doctrines, beliefs, and church government.





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July 21st, 2011, 07:01 PM

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There are so many "denominations" basically because of differences in interpretations of Scripture and dispute over church doctrines, beliefs, and church government.
But why do they see it different? Is it like voting? I was raised catholic, and will stay that way. Something like that?

I realize many leave where they were raised. I was raised catholic. Then introduced to "Pentecostals" who prayed in tongues with interpretations and thought it meant something. Then I read the Bible and entered the Body of Christ.





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July 21st, 2011, 02:23 PM

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Is it bad? Well it is prophetic.

According to Mathew 13 beginning about verse 24 Jesus tells of the parable of the wheat and tares. According to the illustration a gardener plants a garden with good crops and an enemy comes in and plants bad crops among the good ones. When the workers of the garden come and tell the landowner what has happened they ask wether they should try and pull up the bad plants. At which the master gardener says no but to let both plants grow together until they are ready to harvest. The reason for this is when plants are young they are hard to distinguish. The gardener says when they are ready to harvest the difference in the plants will be readily seen and be able to be seperated; the good go to one pile, the bad plants into another to be burned.

The story is a picture of how the church would be infiltrated by 'bad plants' i.e. people who don't really believe and have ulterior motives for joining the church of Christ; like political power, money, or fame. A good example of this is the emporer Constantaine of Rome. According to the parable all this happened because the watchman, those set to keep watch over the garden became lazy, allowing the enemy to slip past them.

In Revelation 14 we see the harvest of the garden taking place and the angels seperating the good seed from the bad. According to the parable it is not up to one man, someone like the Pope of Rome, to play the divider and declarer of God's people, this power belongs only to our High Priest, Jesus the Christ. You can see Jesus performing this action in Mattew 25 towards the end of the chapter. Read it and see.

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July 21st, 2011, 02:34 PM

Christianity is a mess because people try and reconcile the gospels of circumcision and uncircumcision. Then you have people that water baptize and those that say they don't need to do it. And tithe, and keep other ordinances. Instead of following Paul(teachings), who is our apostle.





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Christianity is a mess because people try and reconcile the gospels of circumcision and uncircumcision. Then you have people that water baptize and those that say they don't need to do it. And tithe, and keep other ordinances. Instead of following Paul(teachings), who is our apostle.
Of course. Don't the other users here agree?
I still need to read more i guess.



   
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July 21st, 2011, 02:53 PM

2 Cor. 11:12 But what I do, I will also continue to do, that I may cut off the opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the things of which they boast. 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

All organizations who try to do 'good' in this world are infiltrated by evil people who want to take adavantage of other people.





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July 21st, 2011, 02:58 PM

Individuality is a good thing, the reformation was not only caused because of the Catholic churches corruption. People were tired of control and suppression of individuality by goverenment, church, etc. The printing press gave people the ability to educate theirself and become who 'they wanted to be.'

Any organization has factions and differences.

This is why socialism does not work, we are all differant.





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The reformation was only half done, the doctrine was reformed along bible lines but the ministry was not reformed along bible lines, the reformers went back only to the fathers [so called] because they relied upon the might of princes every bit as much as the Catholic church.

So the new wine was poured into old wine skins and the new cloth sown onto old....

Doesn't anybody think that it is as wrong to hate the Catholic church as it is/was for the church to hate the Jews? even today it is the Catholics/coptics that break through first in the hard places and protestants follow on behind.

I think by and large Catholic haters do not prosper any more that Jew haters.



   
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The reformation was only half done, the doctrine was reformed along bible lines but the ministry was not reformed along bible lines, the reformers went back only to the fathers [so called] because they relied upon the might of princes every bit as much as the Catholic church.

So the new wine was poured into old wine skins and the new cloth sown onto old....

Doesn't anybody think that it is as wrong to hate the Catholic church as it is/was for the church to hate the Jews? even today it is the Catholics/coptics that break through first in the hard places and protestants follow on behind.

I think by and large Catholic haters do not prosper any more that Jew haters.
pLEASE be clear about what you mean "hate Catholic church."
In my experience, anyone who points out things Catholics believe that are not in the bible is called a 'anti-catholic" or "hates Catholics." What's up with that?



   
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August 7th, 2011, 07:17 AM

In MY EXOERIENCE, anyone pointing out things the RCC has wrong, are parroting something one of the other lemmings told them, and never looked in on it themselves and thusly perpetuate a lie. In other words the most talkative of the "correcting catholics" crowd, are fueled by ignorance that started in bigotry. Not saying you are the bigot, you are just parroting something a bigot started somewhere.

Take for example, Catholic position on works is much more biblically correct than almost all Protestants. Teachings. Yet they are falsely accused of saying works save you. Which is a lie. The churches doesn't teach that. Some Catholics may believe that, but so what, some Protestants believe you have to speak in tongues, or be bit in the butt by a rattlesnake to have God's Spirit.

In my experience Catholic basherrs are ignorant, scared, threatened little people. And rarely have so much as a clue what they are taljing about.

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pLEASE be clear about what you mean "hate Catholic church."
In my experience, anyone who points out things Catholics believe that are not in the bible is called a 'anti-catholic" or "hates Catholics." What's up with that?



   
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