Do you respect Ann Romney? -
April 12th, 2012, 08:37 AM
Ann Romney says that her job is to show another side of her husband. Do you respect women who marry Mormon men (a church that taught polygamy Deut. 17:17; Lev. 18:18; Mal. 2:14, 15; Matt. 19:4, 5; Mark 10:2–8; 1 Tim. 3:2, 12; Tit. 1:6).
Homosexuality is: forbidden (Lev. 18:22), considered an abomination (1 Kin. 14:24), punishment for (Lev. 20:13), unclean (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27).
Is Ann Romney an asset to the campaign? If her husband believes that there will still be polygamy in heaven is that problem for you? They have all those kids. Mom will be one of many wives in heaven? Are these American family values?
"...[T]here is no marriage in heaven. Not at all. I know the Mormons have a very sophisticated complex deal about eternal marriages; it's just so much hog-wash. There are no marriages in heaven. Marriage is a part of this passing scheme..." Full text: Reasons for Remaining Single, Part 1 1 Corinthians 7:25-31 by John MacArthur
I certainly have nothing against Mrs. Romney staying home and raising her children. But having done so with the help and security of a very wealthy husband, it does tend to make me suspect that she will have little personal understanding of what most American women experience as they try to raise their own children.
Greed has become such a cultural force in this country that unless a parent is making a well above average amount of money, both parents are going to have to work to afford the the things that children need these days. And the extra stress that places on families is significant. And it's a stress that Mrs. Romney has never experienced. Nor, I suspect, has any of her friends.
This isn't a republican/democrat issue. It's an issue of the insular nature of wealth, and how it tends to render people blind to the very real hardships of others. SOZO seems to think that by insulting Hillary Rosen he can then dismiss her criticism. But I don't know anything about Hillary Rosen, nor do I care what kind of woman she is. I do, however, think she is making a legitimate point.
As far as Mrs. Romney attempting to 'humanize' her husband, I think it's silly. I never presumed that he wasn't 'human'. What I do think is that he's a typical rich boy from a rich background who grew up to become a rich man who does what rich men do - work at becoming richer. I don't think Romney has any idea how most of his fellow Americans live, and I don't think he cares much about how we live. He has lived his whole life with and for rich people, and I see no reason to presume that he will not continue to do so as president. And neither do his fellow rich people, who are clearly behind him 100%.
I certainly have nothing against Mrs. Romney staying home and raising her children. But having done so with the help and security of a very wealthy husband, it does tend to make me suspect that she will have little personal understanding of what most American women experience as they try to raise their own children...
She is rich and chose to raise her children. Poor women can choose to raise their children, too. Men and women who take their God-given responsibility seriously find away to raise their own kids (Pr 22:6).
That doesn't typically mean the same thing if you're rich. No cleaning, cooking, or diaper changing. It's a world of cooks, nannies, maids and "quality time".
I don't have an opinion on her. She may be a wonderful human being. It won't impact my opinion of her husband one way or the other.
[Rich Ann Romney] "That doesn't typically mean the same thing if you're rich. No cleaning, cooking, or diaper changing. It's a world of cooks, nannies, maids and "quality time".]
Maybe government should provide everyone with a: nanny, driver, maid and cook.
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Originally Posted by Town Heretic
"I don't have an opinion on her..."
Leftists envy the rich (Ro 1:29, Tit 3:3). The party of give me... give me... give me... gets the votes (Jas 3:16).
Maybe government should provide everyone with a: nanny, driver, maid and cook.
Maybe we should all get jet packs too.
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Leftists envy the rich (Ro 1:29, Tit 3:3). The party of give me... give me... give me... gets the votes (Jas 3:16).
Among the funny things about your flying off the handle here: I grew up with a nanny, maid, etc. I'm not a leftist and were I one I still wouldn't envy myself.
So way to swing for the fences, even if the ball is in the dirt.
PS--it helps if you know what you're talking about before you start talking.
That doesn't typically mean the same thing if you're rich. No cleaning, cooking, or diaper changing. It's a world of cooks, nannies, maids and "quality time".
I don't have an opinion on her. She may be a wonderful human being. It won't impact my opinion of her husband one way or the other.
haven't you already decided to vote for Obama again?
haven't you already decided to vote for Obama again?
Sadly, I think you'd like it if that were true. It would give that irrational condescension of yours something to hang its hat on.
Or was that merely a way to work in the again business? What ever will you do without that drum to beat? It's a problem for you...though less of one than your voting for a candidate who agreed with abortion in certain cases that offended his sensibilities, which is exactly what you did while you believed he'd actually have a hand in settling (or resettling) the issue through the Court, as unfounded as your belief was.
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Try to be civil in the face of incivility. This is a test.
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April 12th, 2012, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by serpentdove
Ann Romney says that her job is to show another side of her husband. Do you respect women who marry Mormon men (a church that taught polygamy Deut. 17:17; Lev. 18:18; Mal. 2:14, 15; Matt. 19:4, 5; Mark 10:2–8; 1 Tim. 3:2, 12; Tit. 1:6).
"It's the second easiest job in the world. Being a Mom." ~ Dwight Schrute, The Office
I guess Romney is what we get?
But, I believe being a mom is the toughest, most demanding job there is. I'm 75 years old and speak with my children every day, they call me. I am on call 24/7 until the day I die! Thanks be to God!
"I believe being a mom is the toughest, most demanding job there is. I'm 75 years old and speak with my children every day, they call me. I am on call 24/7 until the day I die! Thanks be to God!"
Prov 31:28. Wonder if Ann Romney's kids will feel the same (Jer 9:14; 1 Pe 1:18, Eze 20:18; Am 2:4).
"We have to respect women in all of these choices that they make." ~ Ann Romney 2 Pe 2:1
Marriage is illustrative of God's union with the Jewish nation (Isa 54:5; Jer 3:14; Ho 2:19,20) and Christ's union with his church (Eph 5:23,24,32).
Should God have made a covenant with all the pagan nations? Should Jesus have been a universalist? Jn 14:6
To be honest a political candidate's wife doesn't matter much to me at all. Maybe a little simplistic, but at the end of the day we're voting for the president, not first lady.
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Hands that help are holier than lips that pray.
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April 12th, 2012, 02:41 PM
I don't know anything about her so I don't have an opinion. I didn't even know her name until I saw this thread.
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