Major Breakthrough: Omega admits that Jesus is Jehovah
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Major Breakthrough: Omega admits that Jesus is Jehovah -
May 16th, 2012, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OMEGA
Hey Oatmeal,
Won't Coyote be surprised when he sees Jesus coming with
His Angels and Saints to land on the Mount of Olives and
take over Jerusalem.
It's funny you should say this because Zechariah says that Jehovah shall stand on the Mt. of Olives.
Then JEHOVAH will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day HIS FEET will stand on the Mount of Olives,
You're saying that Jesus is Jehovah! You have made my day!
I have been saying that here for the past 8 years.
If you study the book of Hebrews where it talks about the death of the
Testator, you will realize that it is indicating that Jesus was the Jehovah, Lord
God of the Old Testament who gave the 10 Commandments to Moses.
JESUS came to Reveal the Father in the New Testament.
Prior to Jesus' incarnation as a Human being on the Earth,
there were 2 Gods in Heaven. When Jesus was on the Earth,
there was ONLY ONE GOD , THE FATHER IN HEAVEN whom
Jesus prayed to and was dependent on for the Healing Miracles.
Do you have any disagreement with my hermeneutics in this matter ?
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Joh 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
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Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity
be the death of the testator.
Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead:
otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
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Mt 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
Lu 10:22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.
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I have been saying that here for the past 8 years.
If you study the book of Hebrews where it talks about the death of the
Testator, you will realize that it is indicating that Jesus was the Jehovah, Lord
God of the Old Testament who gave the 10 Commandments to Moses.
JESUS came to Reveal the Father in the New Testament.
Prior to Jesus' incarnation as a Human being on the Earth,
there were 2 Gods in Heaven. When Jesus was on the Earth,
there was ONLY ONE GOD , THE FATHER IN HEAVEN whom
Jesus prayed to and was dependent on for the Healing Miracles.
Do you have any disagreement with my hermeneutics in this matter ?
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Joh 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
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Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity
be the death of the testator.
Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead:
otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
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Mt 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
Lu 10:22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.
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Omega,
It all sounds good the way you state it above. But you believe that we are Gods also which is an implicit denial that Jesus is God. Come on! Yet you imply that He is God by identifying Him as the one who stands on the Mt. of Olives. It is Jehovah who stands on the Mt. of Olives.
Do you see Christ's people becoming God in that prophecy? I don't.
The scripture nowhere says that WE are Gods. Asaph erroneously said that of certain officiators of the covenant. Later he changed his mind. Paul was an officiator of the covenant and he NEVER claimed that he was God.
Are you going to create your own universe after you become God?
... But you believe that we are Gods also which is an implicit denial that Jesus is God. Come on!
The scripture nowhere says that WE are Gods. Asaph erroneously said that of certain officiators of the covenant. Later he changed his mind. Paul was an officiator of the covenant and he NEVER claimed that he was God.
Are you going to create your own universe after you become God?
It doesn't deny that Jesus is God at all to believe we can be gods. It affirms his mission to lead us to be one with the Father as he is. Jesus himself used scripture on point to refute charges of heresy when He said "Is it not written in your law I have said ye are gods? If he calls them gods, unto the whom the Word of God came, and the law cannot be broken, how can ye say I blaspheme saying I am the Son of God?"
Omega might be a god if he is a Jew, but he is probably an angel.
Omega will probably have to wait awhile to make his own world, since first he will have to follow all the commandments of the Lord - the same as Christ did - to be chosen for such an honor. He may need a touch of humility to qualify.
Meanwhile, Wile, you are way behind, cause you ain't even gotten to first base yet, but are bogged down in trinitarian dogmas.
It doesn't deny that Jesus is God at all to believe we can be gods. It affirms his mission to lead us to be one with the Father as he is. Jesus himself used scripture on point to refute charges of heresy when He said "Is it not written in your law I have said ye are gods? If he calls them gods, unto the whom the Word of God came, and the law cannot be broken, how can ye say I blaspheme saying I am the Son of God?"
Omega might be a god if he is a Jew, but he is probably an angel.
Omega will probably have to wait awhile to make his own world, since first he will have to follow all the commandments of the Lord - the same as Christ did - to be chosen for such an honor. He may need a touch of humility to qualify.
Meanwhile, Wile, you are way behind, cause you ain't even gotten to first base yet, but are bogged down in trinitarian dogmas.
Oh, this desire among men to be gods and angels.
We'll be servants...and we'll love it. You think "high", you'd best be thinking "low." Humility reigns in the Kingdom of God. Did you learn nothing from our Lord while He walked the earth?
Slogan/motto:
Truth did not come into the world naked, but it came in types and images. The world will not receive truth in any other way.
Reputation:
May 16th, 2012, 04:35 PM
The "two powers in heaven" heresy... very interesting you would pick a Jewish heresy and not a Christian one but cool beans. Do you consider Jesus to be Metatron then?
It's funny you should say this because Zechariah says that Jehovah shall stand on the Mt. of Olives.
Then JEHOVAH will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day HIS FEET will stand on the Mount of Olives,
You're saying that Jesus is Jehovah! You have made my day!
Hi , and KURIOUS was translated SIR , MASTER , JEHOVAH and LORD !!
Slogan/motto:
Truth did not come into the world naked, but it came in types and images. The world will not receive truth in any other way.
Reputation:
May 16th, 2012, 05:28 PM
Metatron is I believe technically an arch-angel but in this particular heresy is elevated to a second power on par with God. The heresy is named after some Jewish dude who had a mystical vision in where he entered Paradise and saw Metatron sitting next to God and he exclaimed "there is indeed two powers in heaven."
Just yesterday requested an intra-library loan of Alan Segal's book "Two Power in Heaven". So give me a few weeks and I should know a whole lot more about it.
--Mt 22:30 For in the resurrection they are as the angels of God in heaven
1. Did you study the Testator in Hebrews ? Probably NOT.
2. Regarding Jehovah on the Mt. Olives. --- Question - what is time period between Zechariah and Luke ?
3. It took 10 days from the time that Jesus Ascending up to the Father until Jesus sent the Holy Spirit, which was His Mind Spirit down to the Apostles. Jesus had to be Changed into a Spirit being to do that.
4. We are the Sons of God and the Brothers of Jesus,
the First born of Many Brethren.
We are HEIRS and CO-Heirs of the Kingdom of God and flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom.
Therefore, we will be Changed in the Twinkling of an eye from Mortal to Immortal Spirit.
-- Our Mortal bodies will be taken up into the Clouds like JESUS and
then Changed in the Clouds and given Spirit Energy Bodies and then come down to Mt. Olives.
--Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
--2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
--Mt 22:30 For in the resurrection they are as the angels of God in heaven.
--Mr 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they are as the angels which are in heaven.
Ro 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint–heirs with Christ;we may be also glorified together.
Ro 8:29 For God did predestinate
to be conformed to the image of his Son,
that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Ro 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Ro 8:19 For the creation waits for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Php 2:15 That ye may be blameless, the sons of God, whom ye shine as lights in the world;
1Jo 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us,
that we should be called the sons of God:
therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
1Jo 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God,
we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him;
for we shall see him as he is.
PS. There is only One Universe that is Extremely Vast .
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