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July 13th, 2012, 01:21 PM
It appears that the "soft tissue" is likely not original to the deceased and fossilized dino but rather more likely an intrusive bio-film of some sort that formed much later. What we do know, however, is that dinosaurs have been extinct for at least tens of millions of years. I don't see any reason to doubt the scientific consensus that, via various correlating dating methods, assure us of an extinction time estimate of around 65 million years ago.
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July 13th, 2012, 02:00 PM
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It appears that the "soft tissue" is likely not original to the deceased and fossilized dino but rather more likely an intrusive bio-film of some sort that formed much later. What we do know, however, is that dinosaurs have been extinct for at least tens of millions of years. I don't see any reason to doubt the scientific consensus that, via various correlating dating methods, assure us of an extinction time estimate of around 65 million years ago.
Agreed.
What value is there in laypeople who have ZERO training or experience in paleontology arguing with the findings of experts who have decades of training and experience in the field?
Doing so just screams "I have nothing better to do with my time," especially in the case of conspiracy theorists who think everyone in every scientific field in every country on Earth is somehow plotting to outlaw Christianity.
And if you DO have training and experience in paleontology and you disagree with the consensus, why would you be posting on TOL instead of DOING RESEARCH AND GETTING YOUR FINDINGS PUBLISHED?
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July 13th, 2012, 02:16 PM
How do we know dinosaurs are extinct?
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July 18th, 2012, 04:50 PM
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Agreed.
What value is there in laypeople who have ZERO training or experience in paleontology arguing with the findings of experts who have decades of training and experience in the field?
Doing so just screams "I have nothing better to do with my time," especially in the case of conspiracy theorists who think everyone in every scientific field in every country on Earth is somehow plotting to outlaw Christianity.
And if you DO have training and experience in paleontology and you disagree with the consensus, why would you be posting on TOL instead of DOING RESEARCH AND GETTING YOUR FINDINGS PUBLISHED?
Those who study various fields of science often disagree among themselves about even major issues. As more is learned views change. What is scientific dogma one generation may altered or even debunked in the next ... and how all the "objective" seekers of truth who have written all the books, and taught all the classes resist!
Leaving the thinking to the experts is not a good policy for a thinking person in a society where so much information is available. Scientist need to be questioned.
Leaving the thinking to the experts is not a good policy for a thinking person in a society where so much information is available. Scientist need to be questioned.
Thinking for yourself seems like a much better idea to me than simply adhering to a dogma or doctrine.
The scientific method involves questioning, falsifying and peer review, so what specifically makes you suggest that perhaps science isn't being questioned enough or that anyone just accepts what scientists may conclude?
It appears that the "soft tissue" is likely not original to the deceased and fossilized dino but rather more likely an intrusive bio-film of some sort that formed much later.
It is known not to be later material, and this has been known for several years.
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Agreed.
What value is there in laypeople who have ZERO training or experience in paleontology arguing with the findings of experts who have decades of training and experience in the field?
Neg rep for intellectual dishonesty. Workers in the field made the discovery. I can talk about what they found.
The fossilized leg of an 80-million-year-old duck-billed dinosaur has yielded the oldest known proteins preserved in soft tissue—including blood vessels and other connective tissue as well as perhaps blood cell proteins—a new study says.
The research was led by the team behind the controversial 2007 discovery of protein from similar soft tissues in 68-million-year-old Tyrannosaurus rex bones.
It was not a one-hit wonder," said John Asara of Harvard Medical School, who led the protein-sequence analysis.
Here is the rebuttal laid out to drive by story shooting where they just made up the claim it isn't soft tissue and see if it would stick.
"it is much bigger news than [the confirmed discoveries of blood vessels and other connective tissues in] this paper," said Pavel Pevzner, a computational biologist at the University of California, San Diego, who was not involved in the new research.
Really? It's 'general stupidity' to realize scientific data?
I would neg rep you, but Christians are not supposed to keep a record of debt.
Rather, I implore you to grow up. God raises children, you see. You should *raise*.
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July 14th, 2012, 07:13 AM
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Dinosaurs walked the Earth millions of years ago. It is simply an undeniable fact.
The Earth is ancient.
Yep, the discovery of the great year (an ancient cycle of the Sun and its planets 2400 to 2500 years) and the different affects that has had on the earth and the many ages, many so called primative tribes knew much about the stars and the workings of the universe that we are just starting to grasp once again through material science.
Take also into consideration that the Orion Nebula is hidden in many church paintings by famous artists such as the creation of adam (atom) as is the zodiac in the last supper etc....the stuff the exoteric mind has been trained to fear as being from the devil, and accultic by the religions, they are the real myths that will pass when the age of knowing blossoms once again.
Yep, the discovery of the great year (an ancient cycle of the Sun and its planets 2400 to 2500 years) and the different affects that has had on the earth and the many ages, many so called primative tribes knew much about the stars and the workings of the universe that we are just starting to grasp once again through material science.
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July 13th, 2012, 02:18 PM
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I'm just glad dinosaurs aren't still tromping around chomping up things.
Or even worse things!
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