Originally Posted by godrulz
I do not believe that God desired, intended, nor caused the Fall of Lucifer and Man.
I do not believe God intended the majority of humans to end up in the lake of fire.
I do not believe God intended Hitler to kill millions of Jews. He did not intend the rape and murder of children.
Is this not self-evident, based on His character and Word?
Yes it is!
And I agree with you 100%. But we were not talking about human atrocities and sinfulness. We were talking about salvation by grace through faith.
The very fact that humans do not always do the will of God is evidence that God must either immediately destroy the world (or allow it to destroy itself) or enter into a loving, saving relationship with them.
I think when we start with the cross instead of the fall, we realize the difference. Calvinism seems to interpret the cross in light of the fall instead of the other way round. God ‘intends’ to have a loving relationship with us regardless of our sin. Therefore He graciously took our sin upon Himself and set us free from the original conditional intent “If you sin you will die” replacing it with “If you repent and believe you will live.” God’s intention to save us is conditional on our repentance.