[johana]

Originally Posted by Kian

Well, I would not have objected to my mother's right to abort me.

But seriously now. The fact that my mother did not abort me does not mean that I had the right to gain sentience. I was given an opportunity, not a right.

I would point out as well that having a child is a fundamentally selfish endeavor. One does not have a child (when it is planned) for the benefit of the unborn child. People have children because they want to have a child. Or, if you're catholic, because abstinence is your only other moral option. If it is unplanned, it is even more selfish. You're having a child with no thought of the child at all, you're having a child because you wanted to have sex (or express your love for your significant other, depending how much thought goes into the act).

So when a pregnancy is carried to term, it was not because the child had a right to be born. It was because the mother wanted to have a child.

This is clearly written by someone who has no children.

Trying to sum up the motivations of every parent in a single sentence is never going to lend you any credibility.

I had no desire to have children ever when I fell pregnant with my daughter accidentally at 19. My choosing to have her wasn't borne of any biological imperative or selfishness. It was an act of self-sacrifice. An act of giving of myself so that she might live.

I'd suggest that anyone who is driven by self-interest to have children take another look at the task that lies ahead. Once you have a child, there is never another moment that is yours alone. There is no room for selfishness.

I normally like reading your posts but you're actually coming pretty close here to the philosophy of those nutty radical feminists. Ima sorta waiting for you to say that all male-female sex is rape and the only path to liberation is lesbianism...

Do you really believe that the only way to deal with a pregnancy without selfishness would be abortion?