[stevenelijah]

And sister, whatever they teach you regarding Peter being the 1st Pope is just FALSE. I have spent years leading Catholics to Jesus and teaching them the truth. It starts with "no church saves". Jesus alone saves and it takes a man to be born-again to be saved. what Christian church you may attend is a matter of personal choice. Personally I prefer one whose teachings are based only on the Holy Bible and not based on a big city size yellow pages "church rules and other beliefs.

[stevenelijah]

Originally Posted by OMEGA

THE PURPOSE OF LIFE - WHERE MAN CAME FROM

As you look at our Solar System, you see that the planets are in pairs of smilar sized planets.
Earth and Venus are almost the same size, Jupiter and Saturn are similar in size
as is Uranus and Neptune. But when you look at Mars, it only has the Meteor Belt.
What happened to the Planet that was probably there. The Scientists say that there
is not enough Mass to make up a Planet out of the Meteors and Comets there.
What happened to the rest of the Planet is a Mystery that may be answered here.

About 20 Billion years ago Two Energy Beings we know as GOD with their vast accumulated
knowledge decided to create other beings like themselves. The Creators started
with simpler Energy Beings of lesser qualities until they finally created a
being similar to themselves full of wisdom and knowledge. His name was Lucifer.

As time progressed the millions of created beings helped in designing and
creating vast star making structures made out of swirling gas that would compact
hydrogen and helium gas into balls of burning gas of tremendous size that we call stars.
Over millions of years a star cools and as the Hydrogen burns off, the Helium, under Fusion
first forms Carbon molecules and after forming many other molecules
and finally forms Nickle and Iron Molecules. Then under its own immense pressure
the star shrinks to a brown dwarf and finally forms a planet.

The Energy Beings studied these planets to see what could be created out of the chemicals
that were formed there. They created many things similar to what we have today
on this planet . They also created the rudiments of physical life on other
planets where conditions were just right. Some Energy Beings developed
life forms and genetically experimented with them over millions of years.

Because the Universe was so large, God wanted more and more beings
to occupy and control it. How was he to accomplish this ?
God decided to make animals that reproduce themselves
and that can later be changed into Spirit beings.
And so, He gave the job to his Wisest Angel, Lucifer.
Lucifer and his group started genetically engineering animals on Earth
to produce a physical being that would meet God's requirements.
As time went on Lucifer started to have internal confllicts when God told him
that these animals would eventually have Authority over him.
He did not want to be subservient to an Animal that he had genetically engineered.
He became frustrated and angry and eventually thought that God was wrong
to do this. . When he was rebuked, he became vengeful toward God
and planned to destroy the Earth Animals by sending down great Asteroids
to destroy them . He did this by blowing up a planet as it passed near to Mars.
So Lucifer and his Army moved the orbit of the other Planet so that it hit Mars
and blew up and broke appart . It destroyed everything on Mars
including all the atmosphere and the water which flew off
into space and accumulated on the other planets of Jupiter and Saturn.
Large pieces of the broken planet traveled throughout the solar system causing
havoc and destruction.
Huge Asteroids and Comets pummelled Earth and pushed the flat ground into large deep craters.
The Earth was moved off its axis and the poles melted. Where there had been rivers
and streams, there were now Oceans and Mountains. Everything was under water and it
stayed that way for millions of years.
After blowing up that planet, Lucifer took his Army and tried to take over
control of the Universe by attacking the Creators.
He was defeated and imprisoned along with his Army on the Earth.
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The Creators had a Problem.
What were they going to do if the other Angels decided to Rebel too ?
How could they make them understand that Rebellion was not the Way to go ?
So, The Creators went off to another Solar System and continued the project
and genetically engineered a physical being made out of the chemicals
of the planet which could be controlled.
After millions of years of developing and studying these physical beings
in a balanced environment, the Creators worked out a plan.
Because Lucifer Rebelled and wanted to rule the Universe
they gave him these physical beings to Rule over.
The Creators gave the physical beings a choice either to follow them or Lucifer.

After absorbing the fruit contaminated with Lucifers energy,
the people absorbed the rebellious attitude of Satan and became
more spiritually connected to Lucifer and kept drifting away from The Creators.
Jesus later came to the Earth and gave the physical beings who followed Him,
the Mental Character Spirit that He had built when He was on the Earth,
to help them fight and overcome Satan's evil Mindset.
Their Reward for Overcoming the pulls of this Satanic world,
would be Immortality and Membership in The Creators
Universal Government. Lucifer continued to influence influence humans
to go to war with each other because he wanted to prepare them for fighting against God.
He does not care if humans live or die because he realizes that they are all
going to be brought back to life and are going to be in The Creators' Government and
he and his army were going to be rejected and locked up for a long long time .
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[stevenelijah]

that is true....God creates a new man with the seed of sonship. Old things are passed away, all becomes new. Reckon yourself dead to self (old self and its earthly adamic nature) and alive to Christ. We are crucicified with Christ. WE are dead the old man sin nature loses all power over us and we are free to be led of the spirit of God now that we are a new spirit creation that is the temple of the living God

[Chalmer Wren]

Originally Posted by Sonrise

So, what I know is that there are 2 strands of DNA, two main strands that is. And there are 23 chromosomes from each parent that is the makeup of every person.

I've heard that God does everything in threes. So there is a strand missing in each person....and I think that is what this person is saying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneuploidy

[Sonrise]

Chalmer....was not addressing missing chromosomes. I said God does everything in threes....yet there are only 2 strands of DNA.

Man is a triune being...spirit, soul, and body. Something happened to Adam in the fall. And something is restored with Jesus Christ. All that is being said, is that the Spirit of God comes within mans spirit at the new birth. Our father supplies 23 chromosones of past family "history" and our mother supplies 23 chromosones of her past family history. This is the makeup of a natural man. A Spiritual man has God within...a spiritual DNA...all that is of God poured into that spirit of man.

Why aren't we like God then? Because our soul needs saved. That is a process of finding out what we already have. Our minds need to rethink like God, and the avenue of power for that process of salvation is faith.

Is not really a hard thing to grasp when viewing man as 3 fold.

[stevenelijah]

Originally Posted by Sheila B

Do you know what you are saying about Holy Communion?

Yes, Holy Communion keeps us remembering the Love of God for us. All Jesus suffered was for us. The communion taken with true understand that it feeds the seed within us of "sons" of God. Food and drink for the spiritual body within our flesh. Life is in the blood and flesh of Jesus. As we partake in true knowledge and understanding and as we continue to seek God and to worship Him and love Him our spirit man grows. If you have trouble with being a "son" of God thats ok...we men have a bit of trouble being the "bride of Christ"

[stevenelijah]

Originally Posted by Chalmer Wren

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneuploidy

[stevenelijah]

Originally Posted by Sheila B

That is a poorly constructed edifice, for even the demons believe and tremble. The demons not only hear, they believe! You err here. A man received a new name: Simon was renamed Kepha. This is not an allegory!

My grace is sufficient for you, for in your weakness, My strength is shown. A cowardly one, impulsive, and so are all of us! God alone supplies the grace.
A man was renamed - Simon to Kepha!
Whatever sort of man you imagine him to be, so be it. God's word is eternal.

But you do not know where to get this True Food and True Drink, for you do not recognize the True Priesthood of Jesus Christ.

I am waiting for you tp tell us about what you think is the true priesthood.

[stevenelijah]

Originally Posted by Sheila B

That is a poorly constructed edifice, for even the demons believe and tremble. The demons not only hear, they believe! You err here. A man received a new name: Simon was renamed Kepha. This is not an allegory!(stevenelijah says)
Peter heard from God. That is what is lacking in the church. We must be born again, baptised in water and in Holy Spirit. We have great understanding if we study the scriptures and bring them to God for wisdom and understanding.
My grace is sufficient for you, for in your weakness, My strength is shown. A cowardly one, impulsive, and so are all of us! God alone supplies the grace.
A man was renamed - Simon to Kepha!
Whatever sort of man you imagine him to be, so be it. God's word is eternal.

But you do not know where to get this True Food and True Drink, for you do not recognize the True Priesthood of Jesus Christ.

[Sheila B]

Originally Posted by stevenelijah

Well I am a priest unto God as well as a son of God. I am a spirit new creation and as I live in the spirit and partake of communion, sometimes with friends but more often with my wife I eat of His flesh and drink of His blood. Jesus himself is the high priest.

Your way of expressing yourself is one I used myself when a new catholic. That is, the graphic way that you express holy Communion is the way I expressed it at first also; I partake of the very DNA of God! It is a true flesh and blood transformation, I agree. Spiritual, but not only spiritual; that's why I like your way of speaking: in our very flesh and blood and bones.

If it is like this for us now, what will the actual Wedding Banguet be in the heavens.

[Sheila B]

Originally Posted by stevenelijah

And sister, whatever they teach you regarding Peter being the 1st Pope is just FALSE.

We shall remain not in agreement on Peter. I take Jesus as literally here as I do John 6.
And all of Judaism was a shadow of the good things to come. That is not a death sentence for quahal, but a universal call to belong.

[Sheila B]

Originally Posted by stevenelijah

If you have trouble with being a "son" of God thats ok...we men have a bit of trouble being the "bride of Christ"

Cute! But actually, no, I have never had trouble, well, not much anyway. Sorry about the Bride thing. Yes, we will have to learn to be really human and all part of one another in a while new way- as the angels do!

[Sheila B]

Originally Posted by stevenelijah

I am waiting for you tp tell us about what you think is the true priesthood.

The priesthood with the new covenant and the new law and the one sacrifice of calvary offered up as Melchesedek offered bread and wine... that's what rc is and I do believe it. you do not, fine. I have no beef with that; I also did not believe for 14 years.
Believers are still the one Bride of Christ. When He is good and ready to unify us all, He will do it.

[stevenelijah]

I know a man who has pressed in for many years to know God. Eventually he went into a dark cloud and came out in the throne room of God. He has looked at God and seen the face changing from man to lion, to eagle and to ox. He has touched God with his hand and felt his love go into God. then Gods love came back so much he fell over. Now he teaches others how to meet God, talk with God while you are there in the throne room. When he first got there he heard a noise, splat, splat and it was God crying. He thought, why is HE crying. God spoke and said it has been so long since somebody wanted Him so much they died to self and pressed on no matter what. This man for 11 years has travelled to places in the spirit and ministered and gone back. Most in the church do not accept these things. true God seekers only hope. I know these things are true. Much, much more is true. He lives in the spirit at the same time he walks on the earth in New Zealand. It took a lot of practice, worship, seeking, resting, waiting, study and meditating on the Word.This is what God has for HIS SONS now. So few want God so much they die to everything. Paul said, reckon yourself dead but alive to Christ. He meant it. This is what I want for my life. I want to talk to God face to face. Don't you.