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February 13th, 2011, 03:03 PM

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True justice is not retribution, its healing.
I don't think there's such a thing as an Absolute Authority that judges all things. It's not very likely.



   
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February 13th, 2011, 03:17 PM

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Supreme justice cannot coexist with supreme mercy.
For quite understandable reasons, when it comes down to the gritty details, people will believe in merciful Gods, not in stern ones.

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P.S. Death is not "an impossible penalty". Death is death. People die, stuff breaks. It's not that of a big deal.
And once you die, you're pretty much dead. If death is the ultimate penalty, it's not that hard to pay it.

You do stay dead forever, so technically, you're paying for all eternity. But good men die, and evil men die.

Perhaps death is no penalty at all, but simply The Way Stuff Works.
At the moment of death there is a separation. The life force leaves the body. The body begins to decay. But that which caused the body to live has moved on.



   
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February 13th, 2011, 03:58 PM

I will answer this based on the way Jesus was portrayed when I was a child ...

Jesus is the epitome of love and kindness.



   
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February 13th, 2011, 06:34 PM

Jesus is my Saviour, my Lord and friend.



   
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February 13th, 2011, 06:37 PM

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I don't think there's such a thing as an Absolute Authority that judges all things. It's not very likely.
How about an Absolute that heals all things?

Or does a universe of random purposeless existance seem more likely?





1 John 4:7-8 "Beloved, let us love one another, because love is from God; everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, for God is love."
   
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February 14th, 2011, 05:02 AM

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Mercy is whatever lenience you offer when you consider acting justly would be inhumanly cruel or unconscionable. Mercy, by definition, is not justice.
Either justice or mercy are served. One cannot embody both. They're contradictory.
That isn't so far off.

Justice = Getting what you deserve
Mercy = Not getting what you deserve
Grace = Getting what you don't deserve





Jesus saves completely. A9D-EL

Titus 1:10-11

For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped
   
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February 14th, 2011, 05:16 AM

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That isn't so far off.

Justice = Getting what you deserve
Mercy = Not getting what you deserve
Grace = Getting what you don't deserve
This is great. I"m going to use this.
A few years ago I finally learned the meaning of the parable of "The Prodigal Son". What a relief! It is not about performance or fairness. It is about the Father's love.
And justice, do I want justice? Yes. In this world. But, thanks be to God, my justice is filtered through the grace of God. Else I should be quite lost.



   
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February 14th, 2011, 05:56 AM

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This is great. I"m going to use this.
A few years ago I finally learned the meaning of the parable of "The Prodigal Son". What a relief! It is not about performance or fairness. It is about the Father's love.
And justice, do I want justice? Yes. In this world. But, thanks be to God, my justice is filtered through the grace of God. Else I should be quite lost.
Jesus paid the price for the sin of the world. So justice was in fact served for your sin.





Jesus saves completely. A9D-EL

Titus 1:10-11

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February 14th, 2011, 06:06 AM

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This is great. I"m going to use this.
The all wise John W said it first. Well, all he did was put the three in one post refering the exectuion, burial, and resurection of the Christ on our behalf.





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Titus 1:10-11

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The all wise John W said it first. Well, all he did was put the three in one post refering the exectuion, burial, and resurection of the Christ on our behalf.
Thanks be to God! and, I thank you guys for sharing!



   
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February 17th, 2011, 03:48 AM

Was.

Apparently, Jesus (actually, probably named Yeshua or Yoshua) was a Jewish religious leader at Palestine, circa early 1st century CE.



   
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February 17th, 2011, 03:57 AM

the most significant person who ever lived





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February 26th, 2011, 09:47 PM

Jesus is...God, Love, Holy, Reigning forever and ever, the King of kings and Lord of lords.....Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!





"But no one can tame the tongue; it is a restless evil and full of deadly poison. With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the likeness of God; from the same mouth come both blessing and cursing." James 3:8-10

"The glory of God is man fully alive."
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