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What do these ridiculous (and entirely unsubstantiated) claims...
Let's get specific, Bob. What truth claim do you dispute?
"Moses was also a deliverer. God called him to lead the Israelites out of Egypt in a mass exodus. Pointing to Jesus, Moses is a great man, but he is not the supreme deliverer. From our fallen state, Jesus redeems us and makes us forgiven, bringing us into a new and ultimately heavenly relationship with the Father. Moses brought enslaved Israel out of a foreign land. As God called Moses, God called Jesus (MacGregor, Prys, pg. 140)."
By the way, the Roman Catholic Church is not Israel.
[You answer for Patricius79? Are you his priest? ] "Nope. Just a fellow Catholic..."
That's my point--if he is a Catholic why didn't he check that box in his profile?
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"And I thought he might not have time to address your irrelevant line of questioning...."
Truly, you love the word of God (Jn 1:1).
"David was the Lord's anointed and suffered because of it. He and his greater Son, Jesus, demonstrate how David is a type of Christ figure (Mt 1:1, Re 22:16). Jesus' ministry was plagued by difficulties, as was David's role both before and after he became king. The common theme is of the servant of the Lord enduring scorn and suffering trials in the name of the Lord (MacGregor, Prys, pg. 142)."
The Catholic Church does the OPPOSITE to what Christ told us.
Do not bow down to Idols.
The Catholics in different countries carry Idols through their streets every year.
They call their Pagan Priests "Father" and their Leader Holy Father .
Mt 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Slogan/motto:
Gaudium de veritate (Latin, "Delight in the truth")
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March 3rd, 2011, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by serpentdove
That's my point--if he is a Catholic why didn't he check that box in his profile?
Since Catholics are Christians---indeed, the original Christians---why shouldn't he check the "Christian" box in his profile?
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
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"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
Slogan/motto:
Gaudium de veritate (Latin, "Delight in the truth")
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March 3rd, 2011, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by serpentdove
Let's get specific, Bob.
Who is "Bob"...?
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What truth claim do you dispute?
I dispute the ridiculous claims made by you in Post #734 above. Here they are:
"You've made it clear that you are not interested in: the Jesus of scripture, his gospel, and his way of salvation."
And I ask again: What does this have to do with your question to patricius about his profile status?
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
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"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
Slogan/motto:
Gaudium de veritate (Latin, "Delight in the truth")
Reputation:
March 3rd, 2011, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by OMEGA
The Catholic Church does the OPPOSITE to what Christ told us.Do not bow down to Idols.The Catholics in different countries carry Idols through their streets every year.They call their Pagan Priests "Father" and their Leader Holy Father .Mt 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Every one of these old canards has been repeatedly answered---and utterly refuted---on this forum. Yet here is OMEGA, mindlessly parrotting his preferred anti-Catholic religious tradition.
His claims are as pathetic as they are pointless.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
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"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
It has been argued here that Roman Catholics are not Christians. You will have more credibility when you acknowledge the fundamental differences between Roman Catholicism and historical, biblical Christianity.
Slogan/motto:
Gaudium de veritate (Latin, "Delight in the truth")
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March 3rd, 2011, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by serpentdove
It has been argued here that Roman Catholics are not Christians. You will have more credibility...
Credibility with who---you? Couldn't care less.
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...when you acknowledge the fundamental differences between Roman Catholicism and historical, biblical Christianity.
Catholicism IS historical, biblical Christianity. Your viewpoint only cropped up a scant few centuries ago, invented as the conflicting opinions of men, and has continued to splinter and fragment right down to our own day---a hopeless chaos of fallible subjective claims. Not quite the "Church" described in the NT, is it (1 Cor. 1:10; cf. Jn. 17:20-23; Rom. 16:17; Eph. 4:3-6; Phil. 2:1-2)?
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
+T+
"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
Slogan/motto:
Gaudium de veritate (Latin, "Delight in the truth")
Reputation:
March 3rd, 2011, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by serpentdove
You are headed to hell not heaven.
Sorry, nobody's buying Pope Serpent's line here. Sell it somewhere else.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
+T+
"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
They call their Pagan Priests "Father" and their Leader Holy Father .
Mt 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
1 Cor 4:15
anyone who freely denies the Trinity or the Trinitarian Church is not a Christian
Biblical Means Catholic. God is Infinitely Merciful
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It has been argued here that Roman Catholics are not Christians. You will have more credibility when you acknowledge the fundamental differences between Roman Catholicism and historical, biblical Christianity.
can you name one historical person between 100 and 1500 A.D. who roughly interprets the N.T. as you do?
Biblical Means Catholic. God is Infinitely Merciful
...Sorry, nobody's buying Pope Serpent's line here. Sell it somewhere else...
Ad hominem. Truth is truth independent from me.
"Although the Scriptures teach clearly that it is "not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us" (Tit 3:5), they do teach that we are "created in Christ Jesus unto good works" (Eph 2:8-10).
Good works will never produce salvation, but they will produce heavenly rewards. "The fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's works abide...he shall receive a reward" (1 Cor 3:13-14)." Days of Praise, 25 Nov 2009.
Your doctrine is not of Christ (1 Ti 6:3). Get yourself a Savior and then your works will matter.
It's not what you "do". It's what he has done (Phil 3:3).
"You cannot do right if you do not believe right." ~ Jim Andrews
...[i]t is true that the early Church writers testify to the Catholic interpretations...
A church membership cannot save you. It is Jesus who saves (Ac 16:31).
"...He is still the Creator, and the miracle of regeneration is a spiritual creation which does occur every time an individual truly receives Christ as Savior and Lord and is thereby "born again." Only God can create! No psychologist, or guru, or anyone else can make a "new man" of an "old man." Only God is Creator, and an unregenerate person must be "born of the Spirit"--that is, God the Holy Spirit--to be truly "born again" (Jn 3:3-8)." Days of Praise 24 Nov 2009.
Roman Catholic Church is not Israel. 
What's new? 
~ J Vernon McGee Ro 3:23, 5:8, 6:23, 10:9, 10:13.
March 3rd, 2011, 05:32 PM
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