[Granite]

Originally Posted by miriam

I have never had an abortion, but I have been to many Planned Parenthood offices: to get a yearly pelvic exam, to get birth control before I had health insurance, to get information about available health care services. Like many, many women in this country. Most of the people the protesters are shouting at going into the clinic are probably not there to get an abortion either.

miriam

The one closest to me, two towns over, is protested frequently, even though they don't offer abortions there at all.

[DBCReviewer]

This comment from Todah provokes a response from me, "Or she arranged the timing and her route with the PP employee, who was obviously lying as the videotape clearly showed." The tape neither proves nor disproves (imo), because the cameras range (on top of the old fire training facility), does not show the lot entrance of PP. * If PP would have presented the tape from the camera at the entrance gate, we would have more of a view of what really
happened.

However, the footage from this camera is only presented when it serves PP purposes it seems. When the video evidence stands against them, PP lawyers make arguments that the cameras video evidence was lost or recorded over. This has happened before and it sounds like it has happened again. Also, I am reminded that there is a sign at the lot entrance which reads, your conversation is being recorded. Never have I heard this evidence being released.

So although it might be an undertaking to record everything, it seems that it should be, so that we avoid the suspicious loss of tapes and who said what recordings. Back to the opener, it does seems to come down too - when you cause others grief by what you say, it can be held against you, especially when you are fighting against an abortion provider who pumps money into the local economy and political system. Jo and Ken should appeal as far as they can and sue for damages caused by PP not releasing all the evidence and the Court for stepping on free speech.

[Traditio]

Originally Posted by Granite

Also, it's worth pointing out that Scott's well aware of the law, and has had run-ins with PP and the cops in the past.

Granite, we're talking about words.

[The Barbarian]

Even good intentions can't justify harassment. If the facts are as they were stated in court, then this lady has to bear the consequences.

Should have been easy for the defense to get the medical records, if they wanted to show the woman was lying about the miscarriage. Either they already knew she was telling the truth, or the lawyer is incompetent.

[Stripe]

Or they could have just watched the video of the incident.