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In short Israel was God's bride. She committed adultery with idols. This is all through the old testament. Many bride and marriage metaphors can be found. God put her away for her adulteries. In Revelation God will take her back again at the marriage supper of the Lamb.
Ninety percent of the prophecies in the bible pertain to Israel. Where do Christians fall in this? They are the Body of Christ. Israel is the Bride of Christ.
Galatians 6:16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.
In your estimation, who is the "as many/them"?
I know you're a KJVO, but the Message translation of Gal 6:16 answers your question (IMO)
(Gal 6:16) For my part, I am going to boast about nothing but the Cross of our Master, Jesus Christ. Because of that Cross, I have been crucified in relation to the world, set free from the stifling atmosphere of pleasing others and fitting into the little patterns that they dictate. Can't you see the central issue in all this? It is not what you and I do—submit to circumcision, reject circumcision. It is what God is doing, and he is creating something totally new, a free life! All who walk by this standard are the true Israel of God—his chosen people. Peace and mercy on them!
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Note: Acts 15/earlier chapters of Galatians are littered with discussions about two groups.
Jews and Gentiles
Here was the problem:
(Acts 15:1) Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.”
Same problem in Galatians:
(Gal 6:12) Those who want to impress people by means of the flesh are trying to compel you to be circumcised.
It was very hard for the remnant of believing Jews back then to accept that Gentiles could now be saved without having to be circumcised.
She committed adultery with idols. This is all through the old testament. Many bride and marriage metaphors can be found. God put her away for her adulteries.
No, God only put away the Northern kingdom (The House of Israel). God had mercy upon the Southern kingdom (The House of Judah). God divorced the House of Israel, and entrusted the oracles of God with the Jews.
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They are the Body of Christ. Israel is the Bride of Christ.
The Body of Christ is the Israel of God.
Before you ask the question that every dispy asks (How can the body marry itself?), here is the answer:
Eve was made from Adam's body, and became his bride.
Christ is the head of the church, the body is made up of believers. Paul tells us about a great mystery how a husband and wife become "one flesh". Eve became "one flesh" with Adam, Eve was made from Adam's body, Eve was Adam's bride.
A husband is to love his wife the way Christ loves the church (Body), the husband is the head of the wife, Christ is the head of the church (Body), husband and wife are "one flesh", thus Christ and the church become "one flesh"
Hi , and Paul and the Holy Spirit are SPEAKING to Jews ,
Not in Galatians 6
If they were Jews, then why would they not have already been circumcised?
Paul was SPEAKING to Gentiles, and Paul called the Gentiles "The Israel of God"
Sorry this is a deathblow to your MAD/Bullingerism, but you're going to have to come up with a better excuse than: "Paul and the Holy Spirit are speaking to Jews" for Gal 6:16
Matthew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
If Israel was set aside (cast awy, put away) and Jesus was only sent to the lost sheep of Israel, doesn't that make Jesus' time here a waste? Did he fail His mission? Why would an all knowing God send his only son if he was going to cast Israel away?
These qiuestions occured to me when thinking about this thread.
Here is some more that I stumbled accross while studing this, i find them interesting in the context of this thread
Romans11:1 Isay then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
3Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
Jeremiah 3
1They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD.
Mark 10:11
And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
Mark 10:12
And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
Luke 16:18
Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
Malachi 2:16
16 For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.
Genesis 18:26 And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.
* I include this because it reminds me of the 120 believers on the day of Pentecost.
Hebrews 8:8
For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Hebrews 8:10
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
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The New Covenant is 'in Operation, and Israel will not be saved, not without entering into the state of Grace!
A remnant of Israelite believed in Christ, true for faith is what matters, not where one has lived, nor ones national past.
Salvation of Israel, yes true, but by the same means as all who are saved, through Christ.
In short Israel was God's bride. She committed adultery with idols. This is all through the old testament. Many bride and marriage metaphors can be found. God put her away for her adulteries. In Revelation God will take her back again at the marriage supper of the Lamb.
Ninety percent of the prophecies in the bible pertain to Israel. Where do Christians fall in this? They are the Body of Christ. Israel is the Bride of Christ.
Hi , and right on , and that is what Jesus came and Rom 15:8 , confirm its , dan p
The New Covenant is 'in Operation, and Israel will not be saved, not without entering into the state of Grace!
A remnant of Israelite believed in Christ, true for faith is what matters, not where one has lived, nor ones national past.
Salvation of Israel, yes true, but by the same means as all who are saved, through Christ.
Hi , and what verse do you use to prove that the New Covenant a Jewish Covenant were EVER given to Gentiles ??
You can find it anywhere , can you ???
Num 23:9 says , Lo the People ( Israel ) SHALL NOT BE RECKONED WITH THE NATIONS /ETHNOS ,
No GENTILE could live with Israel without keeping the Law of Moses , dan p
The phrase "the Israel of GOD", as has been stated, is used once in the NT:
Gal 6:16 And as for all who walk by this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the Israel of God.
The repeated use of the preposition 'upon'/Grk-'epi' and separated by the conjunctive word 'and'/Grk-'kai' plainly indicates that two distinguishable groups are in view.
The word 'Israel' is contained in the NT in 73 verses and in two of these verses the word 'Israel' is used twice, totalling 75 times in the NT. In all these verses the word 'Israel' refers either to the geographical land or the people descended from Jacob/Israel, whether believing or unbelieving. Given this overwhelming consistent usage of the term 'Israel' as understood by the NT and Paul himself, it would seem very odd that Paul would suddenly change and use the word 'Israel' to describe the Church, as some conclude who have been influenced by a 'Church replaces Israel' theology.
In Romans 9, Paul speaks of (vs 3) 'my brethren, my kinsman according to the flesh', obviously meaning (vs 4) 'Israelites', or the nation as a corporate body.
Then he makes a distinction in the rest of these verses between those of corporate Israel who are of 'promise' and 'faith' and those of that same Israel who are not.
Yet, it is the same 'Israel, Paul's 'kinsmen', 'to whom pertain the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law and the service of GOD and the promises'.....(vs 5) whose are the fathers(Abraham, Isaac, Jacob) and from whose 'flesh' Christ came', from which these two groups originate, whether 'believers' or 'unbelievers'. Paul is basically saying that the true 'Israel' are those of Israel that have received their Messiah....Jesus.
I think that in Gal 6:16, Paul is refering to 'the believing remnant of corporate Israel', when he uses the phrase, 'the Israel of GOD'. This is consistent with his overall thinking, throughout his writings.
In Gal 6:16, Paul is speaking of all of those who 'walk by this rule/Grk-kanon', in reference to (vs 14) , those who 'glory in the cross of Christ'.
He is addressing Gentile believers in Galatia, who have come under the influence of Jews who believe that Gentiles must still go through the process of proselytisation and become part of the nation of Israel through circumcision in order to be truly saved. So, he speaks a blessing upon those Gentile believers of Galatia and extends the blessing to 'his kinsmen according to the flesh', Jewish believers everywhere in the diaspora....'the Israel of GOD'.
It is not Biblical to speak of Gentiles as 'the Israel of GOD'. The Church is not 'the New Israel'. The Church is a new institution, made up of Jew and Gentile in one body...'one new man'. The term Israel, in scripture always refers to the land or the 'sons of Israel', whether believing or unbelieving. When terms are confused semantically, it becomes very difficult to rightly divide the word, or to even communicate clearly with others on a subject.
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1Co 7:17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.
1Co 7:18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
1Co 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
1Co 7:20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.
[quote=steko;2732002]HiI think that in Gal 6:16, Paul is refering to 'the believing remnant of corporate Israel', when he uses the phrase, 'the Israel of GOD'. This is consistent with his overall thinking, throughout his writings.
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HI , and why would Paul warn the Galatians about the Law and then say we all the Israel of God , when we belong to the Body of Christ which is never called the Israel of God !! dan p
HiI think that in Gal 6:16, Paul is refering to 'the believing remnant of corporate Israel', when he uses the phrase, 'the Israel of GOD'. This is consistent with his overall thinking, throughout his writings.
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HI , and why would Paul warn the Galatians about the Law and then say we all the Israel of God , when we belong to the Body of Christ which is never called the Israel of God !! dan p
Right......the Body of Christ is not the 'Israel of GOD'.
Matthew 15:24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
If Israel was set aside (cast awy, put away) and Jesus was only sent to the lost sheep of Israel, doesn't that make Jesus' time here a waste? Did he fail His mission? Why would an all knowing God send his only son if he was going to cast Israel away?
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Hi and you have done what all should do , a word study and see how words are used .
Israel has only set aside until the FULNESS of th Gentiles be come in , Rom 11:25 .
The FULNESS is complete when the Departure/Rapture happens and only then will God bei9ng to deal with Israel again !!
Anyone that checks out the Greek word Grace /CHARIS , will see that it is translated by 12 different English words , dan p
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