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February 14th, 2012, 10:38 AM

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God has created man with a void in his heart that can only be filled with Christ, Ephesians 1:13. The world tries to fill this void with everything but Christ.

Instead of coming to Christ they turn to religion which is a substitute for Christ.

Religion is man's preoccupation with himself and his spirituallity.

It is the Gospel that draws us to Christ and shows us that we have been reconciled by his life and his death, Ephesians 2:12, 13.
I looked at the verses you provided. None say anything about spiritual thirst or a void in the heart. Are you sure you cited the correct verses? Or are you changing the meanings of words?



   
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February 14th, 2012, 04:56 PM

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I looked at the verses you provided. None say anything about spiritual thirst or a void in the heart. Are you sure you cited the correct verses? Or are you changing the meanings of words?
I did not say it was scripture.

Some things are spiritually discerned.

Christainity is a thing of the heart, Romans 10:8, 9, 10, 11.



   
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February 14th, 2012, 05:26 PM

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I did not say it was scripture.

Some things are spiritually discerned.

Christainity is a thing of the heart, Romans 10:8, 9, 10, 11.
Double standard. If a Calvinist had given this sort of response, you'd flip your lid.



   
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February 14th, 2012, 05:38 PM

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I did not say it was scripture.

Some things are spiritually discerned.

Christainity is a thing of the heart, Romans 10:8, 9, 10, 11.
The Unregenerated have a evil heart, its desperatley wicked Jer 17:9

9The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?


Paul is describing the activity of a New Covenant Heart in Rom 10:9-10

The One God promised here Ezk 36:26

A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.





Rom 2:28-29

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
   
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February 14th, 2012, 05:39 PM

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I looked at the verses you provided. None say anything about spiritual thirst or a void in the heart. Are you sure you cited the correct verses? Or are you changing the meanings of words?
I told you he grabs verses and make them say what he wants to them to say.





Rom 2:28-29

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
   
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The Unregenerated have a evil heart, its desperatley wicked Jer 17:9

9The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?


Paul is describing the activity of a New Covenant Heart in Rom 10:9-10

The One God promised here Ezk 36:26

A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

All, Anyone, Everyone, Whosoever, that believes on Jesus shall not be ashamed. The Lord is rich unto ALL that call upon him, Romans 10:11, 12.



   
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February 14th, 2012, 08:03 PM

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All, Anyone, Everyone, Whosoever, that believes on Jesus shall not be ashamed. The Lord is rich unto ALL that call upon him, Romans 10:11, 12.
Yep. I agree.



   
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February 14th, 2012, 08:35 PM

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Yep. I agree.

I am not sure what you believe.

But you can be sure that salvation has been provided for all and that Jesus is the savior of the whole world, 1 John 4:14.

Sin, death, and the devil have been overcome and defeated, Colossians 2:15.

Jesus has reconciled the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19.

Now, whosoever, that calls on the name of the Lord can be saved, Romans 10:13.



   
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February 14th, 2012, 08:53 PM

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I am not sure what you believe.

But you can be sure that salvation has been provided for all and that Jesus is the savior of the whole world, 1 John 4:14.

Sin, death, and the devil have been overcome and defeated, Colossians 2:15.

Jesus has reconciled the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19.

Now, whosoever, that calls on the name of the Lord can be saved, Romans 10:13.
The jesus of pateism is a miserable failure, millions he died for are in hell and on their way to hell..





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28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
   
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February 14th, 2012, 09:05 PM

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All, Anyone, Everyone, Whosoever, that believes on Jesus shall not be ashamed. The Lord is rich unto ALL that call upon him, Romans 10:11, 12.
God is rich to all those who Call upon the Name of the Lord, thats why they call, because Grace has abounded to them already.

His Incarnation was for the Purpose of making those He died for Rich 2 Cor 8:9

9For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

All for whom The Christ I serve died for, they all do call upon Him..

They were quickened, made Alive for that purpose. David said Ps 80:

18So will not we go back from thee: quicken us, and we will call upon thy name.

But your christ is a failure, and millions upon millions he suppose to save is going to hell..





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28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
   
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February 15th, 2012, 04:43 AM

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I am not sure what you believe.

But you can be sure that salvation has been provided for all and that Jesus is the savior of the whole world, 1 John 4:14.

Sin, death, and the devil have been overcome and defeated, Colossians 2:15.

Jesus has reconciled the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19.

Now, whosoever, that calls on the name of the Lord can be saved, Romans 10:13.
5And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” 6And he said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment. 7The one who conquers will have this heritage, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

Do you believe this?



   
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5And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” 6And he said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment. 7The one who conquers will have this heritage, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

Do you believe this?

All who are "In Christ" will receive water from the spring of life without payment. Salvation is by faith alone, Ephesians 2:8. God sees them as perfect and complete "In Christ." Colossians 2:10.

Those who are outside of Christ will be found in their sins, they are the cowardly, faithless, detestible, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, liars.



   
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February 15th, 2012, 10:50 AM

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All who are "In Christ" will receive water from the spring of life without payment. Salvation is by faith alone, Ephesians 2:8. God sees them as perfect and complete "In Christ." Colossians 2:10.

Those who are outside of Christ will be found in their sins, they are the cowardly, faithless, detestible, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, liars.
Okay, then it's safe to say that you believe that Christ's death didn't atone for all sins.



   
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February 15th, 2012, 11:12 AM

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I did not say it was scripture.

Some things are spiritually discerned.

Christainity is a thing of the heart, Romans 10:8, 9, 10, 11.
Christianity is not a thing of the heart.

1.) "Faith without works is dead in itself." (I will let you find where in Scripture that is said.)

2.) Sincerity is not a test for Truth.

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Yep. I agree.
Wrong again.

Matthew 7:21 KJV, "Not everyone that says unto me [jesus], Lord, Lord, will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven."

Do you agree with Jesus, or not? Which is better: Your ideas about Jesus, or Jesus' statements about Himself?

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