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February 22nd, 2012, 01:16 PM

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And I understand what you are saying, too. I have had experiences with Jews who were prejudiced against Christianity. But I have also witnessed Muslims and atheists who were prejudiced against Christianity, as well as Catholics against Protestants (the most relevant prejudice to be discussing regarding Santorum). That you seemed to single out Jews caused me to question your position further.
Most Jews are atheists, I am aware of this. A lot of Jews who practice Jewish customs only do so because of tradition. There are really not too many actual adherents to Judaism in relevance to Islam and Christendom. Messianic Jews can't really be called Judaic because they are syncretists. That alone separates them from the practicing Jews.

The initial point I was trying to make is that such a person in office is going to have zero respect for Christianity. They are highly controlled by orthodox Jews, and the Christendom needs, really, is that influence especially in America where Protestants are being backed into a corner by practically everyone including other Christians as well.
A Muslim in office would actually be a better alternative, it's just that people fail to see that with the likes of extremists taking rise.

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No worries. I was more confused than offended.
I was being backed into a corner and mistook you as being one of them out of frustration., but I had to push out of that nonetheless. It's not everyday one makes a post and then get viciously attacked by multiple posters for no other reason than to grandstand. I grow weary of that, it's been ever so popular for some to try and get brownie points by grandstanding when underneath they are just being dishonest and two-faced. It's the one thing that I cannot stand on forums and it thrashes my patience. There should really be some kind of rule for it, because it is far more disrespectful then what other rules do not allow.



   
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You're confusing a personal interpretation of "respect" with a social interpretation of it. I don't care what a public servant respects personally. That's his/her own business. When I say they should respect the beliefs of their constituents, I mean that 'he' should understand the beliefs of his constituents, and show respect for them in his role as their representative. Otherwise, he's not representing them, anymore. He's only representing himself, and his own beliefs.

A Christian can remain a Christian while still respecting and representing the atheists within his constituency. And in fact, my point is the he is obliged to do so by the requirements of his office.

And when it comes to the question of righteousness, I believe any public servant who can't manage to humble himself enough to act as the representative of his constituents, even though he may disagree with them, is unfit for the job, and should not have accepted the responsibility of public service in the first place. In a nation of free peoples, the public has the right to be wrong. Any supposed representative that doesn't understand and respect that right, does not deserve the honor of serving them.



   
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February 22nd, 2012, 01:33 PM

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No one here cares what you think.

This is at least the second time you've threatened to take your ball and abandon a thread only to come right back, so either put up, shut up, or stop being such a glutton for punishment.
I came back on here with respect to Elohiym. The other three of you, I couldn't really care about.



   
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February 22nd, 2012, 01:56 PM

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I came back on here with respect to Elohiym. The other three of you, I couldn't really care about.
In my case, considering my heritage, I don't doubt it.





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February 22nd, 2012, 01:59 PM

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“If somehow or another because you’re a person of faith and you believe in good and evil is a disqualifier for president, we’re going to have a very small pool of candidates who can run for president,” - Rick Santorum
and that small pool will NOT be truly American

this country was founded by Christians

how can one live in this world for more than 10 yrs and not belive in Satan??

(OK maybe 20 yrs... but whatever)



   
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February 22nd, 2012, 02:00 PM

here's how we know there is a satan

ppl who call themselves Catholic

yet vote for pro-aborts



   
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In my case, considering my heritage, I don't doubt it.
Your ancestors killed Jesus in cold blood, your generation spits on Christians. Therefore, your bleeding heart makes you a hypocrite. I have ample reason for not wanting a practicing Jew in office, and you go on to portray me as Hitler.

Typical atheist.



   
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February 22nd, 2012, 02:08 PM

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Your ancestors killed Jesus in cold blood, your generation spits on Christians. Therefore, your bleeding heart makes you a hypocrite. I have ample reason for not wanting a practicing Jew in office, and you go on to portray me as Hitler.

Typical atheist.
Not only are you a base, wretch racist, you're also a raging tone-deaf hypocrite to boot. Nice work and thanks for proving my point. Move on to Holocaust denial next and get it over with.





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Not only are you a base, wretch racist, you're also a raging tone-deaf hypocrite to boot. Nice work and thanks for proving my point. Move on to Holocaust denial next and get it over with.
As per usual, facts are great until they work against atheist hypocrisy.

Then everyone is a bigot

Why should I want a person who spits on Christians to be the President of a Christian country? Does that make me a racist, hypocritical Holocaust denier, or does it just make you look stupid for continuing to grandstand the thread with a straw man?



   
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February 22nd, 2012, 02:14 PM

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Your ancestors killed Jesus in cold blood, your generation spits on Christians. Therefore, your bleeding heart makes you a hypocrite. I have ample reason for not wanting a practicing Jew in office, and you go on to portray me as Hitler.

Typical atheist.
There is a cure for ignorance, but there is no cure for stupidity.
Are you posting this out of ignorance of the truth, or are you just stupid?





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We got to get Dana Carvey to ask the candidates if they believe in Satan!
Izzat you in dat avatar Berean?....I always pictured you looking more Engineer geeky...kinda like this:






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As per usual, facts are great until they work against atheist hypocrisy.

Then everyone is a bigot
The "facts" being that you insulted my heritage and are a stunted, ignorant racist. Using religion as a shield to justify hatred is an old sly ploy of hicks such as yourself, and it's an old, transparent trope. If you had the courage of your convictions you wouldn't need to use Christianity as an excuse for being a bigot.





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There is a cure for ignorance, but there is no cure for stupidity.
Are you posting this out of ignorance of the truth, or are you just stupid?
Who wanted Jesus dead and petitioned the Romans to have Jesus persecuted?

Oh yeah, nothing. How reasonable. Just because one feels for a group of people doesn't mean one has to flat out be dishonest and lie about history. Being accurate equals being ignorant because of dishonest people like you and Granite. Go read a Bible.



   
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ITT Dem Jooooos.





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It may be considered newsworthy because Santorum's more outspoken and blunter about matters of faith than any other candidate. Hard to imagine Newt, Mitt, or even Ron Paul (much less POTUS) coming right out and talking seriously about the devil.
I pray to Jesus every night. -Barack Hussein Obama



   
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