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You probably do not realize that many a pastor is trying to place their life in the congregation, so that they are false Christs.
Tell me Lon,
what qualifications did the apostles require for their ministry?
LA
You are not an apostle. Because of that, you can make excuses but if you insist on being an expert in Scripture, credentials would back that up.
If I want to learn about Charles Dickens, I go to one who has studied him. Sure, somebody without a degree may know a bit, but the one who spent the money, I'm not having to guess about what he knows.
People greatly commited spend a lot of money and time to be accomplished at what they want to do and know.
Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, forever. Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. - Let's at least work at it?
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Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
You are not an apostle. Because of that, you can make excuses but if you insist on being an expert in Scripture, credentials would back that up.
If I want to learn about Charles Dickens, I go to one who has studied him. Sure, somebody without a degree may know a bit, but the one who spent the money, I'm not having to guess about what he knows.
People greatly commited spend a lot of money and time to be accomplished at what they want to do and know.
Your argument leaves out the King of Israel. You have more chutzpah than wisdom, boychick.
Its a theory. I don't share it but there you go. Regardless, you need to come up with different terminology. Get a good dictionary and do a couple of new words a week or one of those calendars that encourage vocabulary. It is not spiritual homosexuality. Homo = same Sexual = hormonal act involving specific flesh toward procreative endeavors.
Think of a better more accurate term or simply do as you've done this post, and just describe the problem. It goes a lot further than bringing up gross images in the rest of our minds. That was the trouble.
No, no and please listen again.
1) This thread was supposed to avoid this sort of thing so I'd think strong rebuttal to those against it would be expected
and 2) you used a term that I don't think any of us got. A few of us thought it vulgar. It still is though I believe you when you say you are trying to describe something else, but anything with "sexual" in the word is going to lose whoever you are trying to talk to. It is not the appropriate term for what you are trying to describe which is more akin to seeking the praise of men rather than the approval of God (man/woman pleaser and/or pride). Not what this thread is about, but at least I think I understand where you were trying to go.
I have an expectation which is this: anybody who goes against the main of Christianity on this planet should back it up with the tools (education) to do so. I know without doubt, if I actually went against the majority, I'd attain my theology doctorate to back up what God is telling me to say. Without it, it is about as a high school graduate trying to teach physics at the university level. Some of us worked very very hard to be sure we had a proper handle on scripture and we don't tend to pay much attention to those who are trying to teach us something they learned at home in a half an hour what we spent credit hours hammering out at great length.
Yes, look above. I asked men with doctorates (they spent more than 10 years on their particular areas of teaching) about these things. I learned to read the original languages. I've bought and checked out dozens and dozens of source materials and books. You spent 20 minutes or so on a passage of scripture.
Er, no. You are reading a bit into that statement.
So of course He needs you to point that out to me, and Christ is no longer our mediator, but you?
Your britches seem to be quite a bit bigger than you seem able to fit, imho.
No. Not quite. I'm tired of those without the degrees behind their names to back it up, asserting against the whole of the rest of Christianity about things they clearly and demonstratively know very little about. It is quite evident to the rest of us. So this thread was for us, who believe what we read in scripture, to encourage one another. That isn't contentious. Interrupting such is. I have refrained from posting in any thread on TOL that asks that certain kinds of posters refrain. It doesn't bother me a bit if arians and modalists have their own threads and ask me not to post in them. There is a MAD thread currently on TOL that asks for serious inquiries only. They also get waylaid by those who are against them but I've had no problem whatsoever leaving that Thread to Mid Acts Dispensationalists. I'm a Covenant Theologian so could cause them trouble there, but I respect and love a couple of them. I will fight battles God brings to me and not go out of my way looking for them on purpose.
Boy, you talk a lot but you dont seem to know very basic of Christianity. When you do that your lengthy talk is meaningless. It does not matter how much you think you are knowledgeable.
Christianity is not about talking the talk, it is about walking the walk, friend.
Your argument leaves out the King of Israel. You have more chutzpah than wisdom, boychick.
One-liners do not an argument make. See that black pot line of your's, kettle? Kind of ironic (or moronic as the case may be, for instance, it is most likely shalom, not sholom), no?
Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, forever. Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. - Let's at least work at it?
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Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
Boy, you talk a lot but you dont seem to know very basic of Christianity. When you do that your lengthy talk is meaningless. It does not matter how much you think you are knowledgeable.
Christianity is not about talking the talk, it is about walking the walk, friend.
Er, it is both and you are in the wrong thread.
I'm not too interested in your particular perspective because you've never, not once, captured my complete attention from the first two posts I've ever read from you.
You aren't on the TOL noticed list.
Squeeky is about the only non-trinitarian everybody knows on this board, and that more as a novelty of repetitive absurdity and special needs.
Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, forever. Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. - Let's at least work at it?
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Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
Slogan/motto:
Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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March 9th, 2012, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lon
Er, it is both and you are in the wrong thread.
I'm not too interested in your particular perspective because you've never, not once, captured my complete attention from the first two posts I've ever read from you.
You aren't on the TOL noticed list.
Squeeky is about the only non-trinitarian everybody knows on this board, and that more as a novelty of repetitive absurdity and special needs.
You sure is a religious snob, of no qualifications from Jesus, only from man. You wasted your money.
One-liners do not an argument make. See that black pot line of your's, kettle? Kind of ironic (or moronic as the case may be, for instance, it is most likely shalom, not sholom), no?
I'm saying you would have rejected Christ himself for having no degree, as Paul Silas did probably, under Gemaliel, fershtinkiner.
As he murdered the true ones.
And my name is not "peace unto you." Who is being moronic.
From what brain pool do you hail?
You sure is a religious snob, of no qualifications from Jesus, only from man. You wasted your money.
LA
And again, I'm beside myself wondering 1) why you are the one attacking me on my thread where I politely asked for none of these contentions and 2) wondering why you are the one appearing on the defensive.
Go back up and look. He didn't say a thing about the thread. He is just drive-by shooting at my character. Of course so are you, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised?
Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, forever. Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. - Let's at least work at it?
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Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
I'm saying you would have rejected Christ himself for having no degree, as Paul Silas did probably, under Gemaliel, fershtinkiner.
As he murdered the true ones.
Well then, by all means make sure you are martyred?
Please help me understand what kind of reasoning is going on in that mind.
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Originally Posted by sholom
And my name is not "peace unto you." Who is being moronic.
From what brain pool do you hail?
Apparently Hebrew isn't your strong-suit? Yeah, it could be Sholom (its a Hebrew word) but it is most likely Shalom. It doesn't matter so much about the vowels because these were added in to help with pronunciation and a best guess as to how words would have sounded.
So Shuh - loam in pronunciation could be spelled sholom similarly but shalom tends to be the accepted. If sholom appears in any other language, I'm not aware of it. So yeah, different brain-pools obviously.
Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, forever. Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. - Let's at least work at it?
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Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."
Slogan/motto:
Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Reputation:
March 9th, 2012, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lon
And again, I'm beside myself wondering 1) why you are the one attacking me on my thread where I politely asked for none of these contentions and 2) wondering why you are the one appearing on the defensive.
Go back up and look. He didn't say a thing about the thread. He is just drive-by shooting at my character. Of course so are you, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised?
You are the one who defended your doctrine by criticism of anothers character, and then boasted about your education, comparing yourself with other brethren who you regard as deficient and not worth discussing matters with.
Do you ever obey Christs words? Why do you not obey them if you are so above everyone else?
First you say I am on the defensive and then you say I am attacking you.
I think you love yourself too much and that is your main problem.
Well then, by all means make sure you are martyred?
Please help me understand what kind of reasoning is going on in that mind.
Apparently Hebrew isn't your strong-suit? Yeah, it could be Sholom (its a Hebrew word) but it is most likely Shalom. It doesn't matter so much about the vowels because these were added in to help with pronunciation and a best guess as to how words would have sounded.
So Shuh - loam in pronunciation could be spelled sholom similarly but shalom tends to be the accepted. If sholom appears in any other language, I'm not aware of it. So yeah, different brain-pools obviously.
Guh, wasn't it you who insisted people have a degree before you listened or heard anything they had to say? 2) Jesus had no degree
3) by logical inference you would not listen to Jesus, but yes to Paul as he murdered the true ones, and called them a cult?
Did Christ go to Pharisee school? Do you?
Trinitarians are worse than Pharisees. They are idolaters.
All Israel are not Israel.
My name may mean peace, but it is not pronounced the same as "peace to you."
Shoaloam, Shaaloam.
You think my name is a greeting? Try correcting the owner will you.
Slogan/motto:
Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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March 9th, 2012, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by student_ad_x
You wouldn't say that L.A. if you knew him. Why don't you start over with theology & Scripture.
I can only go by what Lon has said in these posts.
He has opportunity to repent and apologize here instead of worsening his reputation in Heaven.
I can only go by what Lon has said in these posts.
He has opportunity to repent and apologize here instead of worsening his reputation in Heaven.
LA
Don't hold your breath while waiting Lazy. We are all dummies so he does not have to.
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Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.
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