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March 19th, 2012, 10:23 AM

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Because it's a set of separate books written by fallible humans, capturing their primitive society's traditions but the authors putting their own take on things. That's the obvious answer. Is there any evidence that it's not the right one?
Plenty.

It's perfectly obvious that the different passages might be referring to very different concepts.

Here's a clue. From my passages:

chet' חֵטְא
1) sin
a) sin b) guilt for sin c) punishment for sin



...or...


chata' חָטָא
1) to sin, miss, miss the way, go wrong, incur guilt, forfeit, purify from uncleanness
a) (Qal) 1) to miss 2) to sin, miss the goal or path of right and duty 3) to incur guilt, incur penalty by sin, forfeit
b) (Piel) 1) to bear loss 2) to make a sin-offering 3) to purify from sin 4) to purify from uncleanness
c) (Hiphil) 1) to miss the mark 2) to induce to sin, cause to sin 3) to bring into guilt or condemnation or punishment
d) (Hithpael) 1) to miss oneself, lose oneself, wander from the way 2) to purify oneself from uncleanness



From yours:

`avon עָוֹן
1) perversity, depravity, iniquity, guilt or punishment of iniquity
a) iniquity b) guilt of iniquity, guilt (as great), guilt (of condition) c) consequence of or punishment for iniquity



And your hermeneutic is appallingly naive.

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But there's a lot more to the concept of original sin, than just we're bothered by bad stuff.


I find it perfectly straightforward. But you don't seem to be willing to discuss what is in the bible. You seem to think any old opinion is of more relevance.

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If we're all responsible for our own actions, then tell me again why Jesus needed to die? I thought it was something about substitutionary atonement.


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My understanding of Christian theology is that we are all deserving of eternal damnation, but Jesus took the punishment for those who accept him.
You're not very good at this, are you?





Where is the evidence for a global flood?
That doesn't make sense to me.
But, then again, you are very small.

"...the waters under the "expanse" were under the crust."
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