Open rebuke is better than love carefully concealed
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Open rebuke is better than love carefully concealed -
March 20th, 2012, 01:57 AM
I am relatively new here, but I noticed this statement on the masthead. And I found it strange, and in the end, almost incomprehensible. Can someone explain to me please:
1. What is is attempting to say?
2. Better in what way and to whom?
3. Why open rebuke is compared to concealed love, and not to expressed love?
Rebuke is love. That is one problem you don't understand. Love is an action, not an emotion. As defined biblicaly. It is a simple concept really. If your neighbor's house was burning down, would you tell them?
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Ecclesiastes 10:10 If the ax is dull, And one does not sharpen the edge, Then he must use more strength; But wisdom brings success.
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March 20th, 2012, 05:40 AM
Yup, what Nick said. Loving someone quietly in your heart is not loving them. Telling them you love them is loving them. Telling them, "Don't touch that! It's hot!" is even more loving.
Yup, what Nick said. Loving someone quietly in your heart is not loving them. Telling them you love them is loving them. Telling them, "Don't touch that! It's hot!" is even more loving.
so am I supposed to tell you that you are an idiot?
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March 20th, 2012, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ercatli
I am relatively new here, but I noticed this statement on the masthead. And I found it strange, and in the end, almost incomprehensible. Can someone explain to me please:
1. What is is attempting to say?
2. Better in what way and to whom?
3. Why open rebuke is compared to concealed love, and not to expressed love?
4. Is open rebuke better than open love?
Thanks.
If one loves then one will have occasion to openly rebuke.
It is the manner in which the rebuke is given that requires thought.
I have noticed that most of us do not care to be rebuked.
Nevertheless....
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Ecclesiastes 10:10 If the ax is dull, And one does not sharpen the edge, Then he must use more strength; But wisdom brings success.
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March 20th, 2012, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by chrysostom
so am I supposed to tell you that you are an idiot?
Do you think I'm an idiot? And am I?
Well, then yeah! How else am I gonna know?
Dumbass.
chrysostom
See how that works?
Now, how harsh you are in saying that should depend on harsh you need to be, of course. Like, I think you miss some great opportunities to debate and make a good point to people who need it quite often. And how I find that frustrating because I think you have the capability of doing that and you waste it.
So, to you I'd probably say...
Well, yeah, actually that.
And, so, I just showed the love I have for you, rather than carefully concealing it.
Rebuke is love. That is one problem you don't understand. Love is an action, not an emotion. As defined biblicaly. It is a simple concept really. If your neighbor's house was burning down, would you tell them?
Hey we agree on sumpin', concerning, how love rebukes those in need, .......but, you need to learn that cursing someone is not rebuking them, and it does not come from love, but hate......
If one loves then one will have occasion to openly rebuke.
It is the manner in which the rebuke is given that requires thought.
I have noticed that most of us do not care to be rebuked.
Nevertheless....
Hey we agree on sumpin', concerning, how love rebukes those in need, .......but, you need to learn that cursing someone is not rebuking them, and it does not come from love, but hate......
Hey we agree on sumpin', concerning, how love rebukes those in need, .......but, you need to learn that cursing someone is not rebuking them, and it does not come from love, but hate......
gp now claims that Jesus & Paul hated their neighbors
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March 20th, 2012, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by chrysostom
what about calling someone a misogynist?
I must make amends to you Chrys.
I should have said "You have made statements that might lead one to think that you blame women for societal ills and do not fully take into account the responsibility of men".
It was unkind of me to label you a misogynist. I said it in anger, never a helpful thing. I apologize to you and hope that you will forgive me.
I must make amends to you Chrys.
I should have said "You have made statements that might lead one to think that you blame women for societal ills and do not fully take into account the responsibility of men".
It was unkind of me to label you a misogynist. I said it in anger, never a helpful thing. I apologize to you and hope that you will forgive me.
I have been interested in the comments so far, but no-one has actually answered my questions. For instance, Nick said:
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Rebuke is love. That is one problem you don't understand. Love is an action, not an emotion. As defined biblicaly. It is a simple concept really. If your neighbor's house was burning down, would you tell them?
A rebuke can be love, but it may not be. I understand christian love is an action, or at least a chosen attitude, not an emotion. And yes, I would tell them. So we agree there pretty much, but is that what the quote means?
I would be very interested, Nick, in your answers to my 4 questions. And anyone else's.
chrysostom
but, you need to learn that cursing someone is not rebuking them, and it does not come from love, but hate......
March 20th, 2012, 06:11 AM
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