[Untellectual]

In the United States of America, we have freedom of religion (free excercise), as written in Amendment I of the Constitution.

What are the implications for Christianity?

[S0Z0]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

In the United States of America, we have freedom of religion (free excercise), as written in Amendment I of the Constitution.

What are the implications for Christianity?

More phony "Christians".

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by S0Z0

More phony "Christians".

You are a Christian, correct?

Are you saying with freedom people are neither responsible nor authentic?

[S0Z0]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

Are you saying with freedom people are not responsible or authentic?

Most people will attach themselves to a group if it is to their advantage.

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by S0Z0

Most people will attach themselves to a group if it is to their advantage.

One aspect I am thinking about in regard to the Constitution pertaining to this subject is that (as it is said) there was a reason the United States became its own nation. In this there was a religious reason. I suppose the Declaration of Independance would speak to some of this that I find myself emphasizing in this discussion.

But I don't know that we interpret this as what divides Christians in this day.

And I don't think there was a lot of (or any for that matter) post-modernism in the founding of our country.

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

In the United States of America, we have freedom of religion (free excercise), as written in Amendment I of the Constitution.

What are the implications for Christianity?

There is the church in the United States, and the church exists beyond the United States.

In the United States, we discuss Christianity and there are varrying beliefs. In the early days of our country what was the Christian belief? And, was Christianity the only religion? Was the religion spoken of Christianity?

[Untellectual]

"They were adopted by the House of Representatives on August 21, 1789,[1][2] formally proposed by joint resolution of Congress on September 25, 1789, and came into effect as Constitutional Amendments on December 15, 1791, through the process of ratification by three-fourths of the States."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...Bill_of_Rights

[Untellectual]

Amendment I

text

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Background

"Opposition to the ratification of the Constitution was partly based on the Constitution's lack of adequate guarantees for civil liberties. To provide such guarantees, the First Amendment (along with the rest of the Bill of Rights) was submitted to the states for ratification on September 25, 1789, and adopted on December 15, 1791."

Establishment of religion

"The establishment clause is "[t]he First Amendment provision that prohibits the federal and state governments from establishing an official religion, or from favoring or disfavoring one view of religion over another."[1]

Originally, the First Amendment applied only to the federal government. A number of the states effectively had established churches when the First Amendment was ratified, with some remaining into the early nineteenth century."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_amendment

[Letsargue]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

Amendment I

text

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Background

"Opposition to the ratification of the Constitution was partly based on the Constitution's lack of adequate guarantees for civil liberties. To provide such guarantees, the First Amendment (along with the rest of the Bill of Rights) was submitted to the states for ratification on September 25, 1789, and adopted on December 15, 1791."

Establishment of religion

"The establishment clause is "[t]he First Amendment provision that prohibits the federal and state governments from establishing an official religion, or from favoring or disfavoring one view of religion over another."[1]

Originally, the First Amendment applied only to the federal government. A number of the states effectively had established churches when the First Amendment was ratified, with some remaining into the early nineteenth century."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_amendment

What in the world are you trying to say!! - That some government is higher than God in commandments and permission to worship God!!
What happened to words like - Acts 2:38 KJV ----//-- You accept the government documents, and reject God's; that's cool!!

Paul -- 040212

[Son of Jack]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

In the United States of America, we have freedom of religion (free excercise), as written in Amendment I of the Constitution.

What are the implications for Christianity?

I agree with to SOZO to a certain extent. Where there is no persecution, often you will find apathy and ulterior motives.

[Cleekster]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

In the United States of America, we have freedom of religion (free excercise), as written in Amendment I of the Constitution.

What are the implications for Christianity?

when Christianity becomes irrelevant in peoples lives and no longer the most attractive worldview then Christianity will no longer be the popular religion in the US.

many of the current generation of young people don't really look at Christianity in a positive light. they want a religion that isn't as they see it "Judgemental and Exclusivist". they want a religion that makes them feel good and doesn't directly effect their life, .....and imo that isn't Christianity, at least not in the orthodox sense.

[The Berean]

Originally Posted by Cleekster

when Christianity becomes irrelevant in peoples lives and no longer the most attractive worldview then Christianity will no longer be the popular religion in the US.

many of the current generation of young people don't really look at Christianity in a positive light. they want a religion that isn't as they see it "Judgemental and Exclusivist". they want a religion that makes them feel good and doesn't directly effect their life, .....and imo that isn't Christianity, at least not in the orthodox sense.

This reminds me of the blog called "Stuff White People Like". Number 2 on the list is this:

#2 Religions their parents don’t belong to
White people will often say they are “spiritual” but not religious. Which usually means that they will believe any religion that doesn’t involve Jesus. Popular choices include Buddhism, Hinduism, Kabbalah and, to a lesser extent, Scientology. A few even dip into Islam, but it’s much more rare since you have to give stuff up and actually go to Mosque. Mostly they are into religion that fits really well into their homes or wardrobe and doesn’t require them to do very much.

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by Letsargue

What in the world are you trying to say!! - That some government is higher than God in commandments and permission to worship God!!
What happened to words like - Acts 2:38 KJV ----//-- You accept the government documents, and reject God's; that's cool!!

Paul -- 040212

Why do you believe I reject God's word? I don't.

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by Son of Jack

I agree with to SOZO to a certain extent. Where there is no persecution, often you will find apathy and ulterior motives.

Persecution of Christians in the world is an issue. Is it an issue in the United States? If it is it is not because of the government.

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by Cleekster

when Christianity becomes irrelevant in peoples lives and no longer the most attractive worldview then Christianity will no longer be the popular religion in the US.

many of the current generation of young people don't really look at Christianity in a positive light. they want a religion that isn't as they see it "Judgemental and Exclusivist". they want a religion that makes them feel good and doesn't directly effect their life, .....and imo that isn't Christianity, at least not in the orthodox sense.

You are dealing with the perception of Christianity in the United States.