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April 18th, 2012, 06:51 PM

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You missed it again, Paul. This has nothing to do with the Bible. It has to do with your effectiveness as a communicator. It is all about your own ability to say something. Don't for a second think you can pull God on your side for poor English communication. You are a poor communicator all on your own, don't blame God.

Let me put it another way so you might leave your martyrdom complex behind:
If you were in my English class, I'd flunk you for a badly written paper. It has no spiritual after-effects. You can get bad grades and still love Jesus, it is just that you are going to always have a hard time clearly communicating anything. I mean, let's discuss the last novel you read and I'm going to have the same comments as above. It has not a lot to do with God or His Word. It has everything to do with how you communicate anything. It is unclear, Paul.


In my statements to Town Heretic, in the “Bashing AMR Thread”, I was required to type as was required by some of you guys, and I did so, - but still the garbage came as usual. So it’s not the way I type!!
John 7:15 KJV – Blast Jesus also would you!!

I have never claimed to be educated well in your type of learning. – If Jesus received from the Father what to say, then you’ll just have to try to cast your garbage out and look at something that’s NEW. – It’s no fun trying to explain to folks hundreds of secret things and mysteries, to such a rebellious people. – Just because you do not understand the things I say or teach, doesn’t mean that they are contrary to Truth. There is no way that all you guys can misunderstand these things totally, as all of you try to make out. – Simple questions are not hard to understand, and yet they go by the wayside as dung from a donkey, and that is ungodly, coming from a church of so called believers, calling themselves “Christians”. – Do you understand me now, before we go on; if you desire to go on?

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April 19th, 2012, 01:36 PM

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In my statements to Town Heretic, in the “Bashing AMR Thread”, I was required to type as was required by some of you guys, and I did so, - but still the garbage came as usual. So it’s not the way I type!!
John 7:15 KJV – Blast Jesus also would you!!
Again, and I'm sure I'll have to repeat it over and over, this has nothing to do with Paul and Jesus. It only has to do with Paul and his Paul-enease language. We could be talking about croquet and still have the same problem here.
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I have never claimed to be educated well in your type of learning. – If Jesus received from the Father what to say, then you’ll just have to try to cast your garbage out and look at something that’s NEW. – It’s no fun trying to explain to folks hundreds of secret things and mysteries, to such a rebellious people.
You seem to have fun. Regardless, you simply must speak the way people understand or your message is just lost and pointless.

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– Just because you do not understand the things I say or teach, doesn’t mean that they are contrary to Truth.
Well, no, but how could we discern that when it is given unclearly?
It doesn't matter if we are talking about lawn darts or the Bible if I don't understand you concerning either. That isn't a spiritual problem, it is a communication problem. You don't have to feel I'm calling into question your spiritual life. I'm calling into question your communication ability.

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There is no way that all you guys can misunderstand these things totally, as all of you try to make out. – Simple questions are not hard to understand, and yet they go by the wayside as dung from a donkey, and that is ungodly, coming from a church of so called believers, calling themselves “Christians”. – Do you understand me now, before we go on; if you desire to go on?

Paul – 041812
Yes for the most part. The first paragraph seems to be confusing the two again. I would repeat then, that it has little to do with the Bible message, but more to do with your way of communicating.





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You don't know enough about God to ask a Scriptural question. I'll answer a Scriptural question, if you can ask one, and not some nonsense that has nothing to do with God and His Word. --- Let me ask you a Scriptural Question. OK!!

Where was the Garden of Eden, according to Scripture, not science? Very simple!!

See, there's no way that you can answer it, because you just say, as do the others, that you have the Holy Ghost and you're a Christian, that's the reason that you can't or won't answer anything that I may ask a smart so called christian.Paul -- 041612
You can read it in the Bible:

Gen. 2:10 And a river went out of Eden to water the Garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
Gen. 2:11 The name of the first is Pison (Ganges): that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold (India?);
Gen. 2:12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
Gen. 2:13 And the name of the second river is Gihon (Nile): the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
Gen. 2:14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel (Tigris): that is it which goes toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.

Scholars believe that the Garden of Eden may have been located, at the joining of the Tigris and Euphrates, which is the site of ancient Babylon. [You can do a Google search like I did to find more information].



   
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"CHILD", shows BIRTH, - I have not Been Born Again as you falsely claim.

If you have died, then you possibly could have been "Born Again" from the dead. - Jesus is the "First Born" from the dead, and any "CHILD" of his own Father may come after Jesus in Being Born Again. You haven't died and resurrected, and "RAPTURED", therefore you can't be Born Again.Paul -- 041712
You state that you have not been born again, however, you state that you are a "Christian (other)," and the definition of a Christian is to be born again.



   
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No you have NOT, -- If you’ve been Born Again, then you have Died, and Resurrected, and then been Raptured, AND YOU HAVE NOT!!!
Neither one of your Scriptures deals with THAT present day, - but the future, by “PROMISE”. – No one at that time had “received” anything of Christ, until His final coming, and you cannot show that they had!!! - Eternal Life, the Place Prepared, the Kingdom, NOTHING BUT THE
“PROMISE” TO RECEIVE!! – READ THE BOOK, AND STOP ADDING TO IT!! All nations were not BLESSED until AD70; not a year before, or after!!

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It is a SPIRITUAL death, burial, and the resurrection is to newness of life (being born again).



   
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It is a SPIRITUAL death, burial, and the resurrection is to newness of life (being born again).


Colossians 1:18 KJV ------//-- Read it, and then tell me that I contradicted anything like all you guys do all the time. If you can correct me, use the Scriptures. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE FOR. Christ gave them to the Christian to correct false doctrine, soo use them and not your own foolishness!!!!!!! -- Not your foolish blood pumps' wisdom!!!

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Colossians 1:18 KJV ------//-- Read it, and then tell me that I contradicted anything like all you guys do all the time. If you can correct me, use the Scriptures. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE FOR. Christ gave them to the Christian to correct false doctrine, soo use them and not your own foolishness!!!!!!! -- Not your foolish blood pumps' wisdom!!!

Paul -- 050212
I am sorry Letsargue but I do not understand what is it that you are saying to me.

Starting with Colossians 1:16 it is speaking that by Him (the one being spoken of in Colossians – Jesus Christ) were all things created, that are in Heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him, and for Him (Christ is the Creator of all [Jn. 1:3]):

Colossians 1:17 -- And He is before all things (preexistence), and by Him all things consist. (All things come to pass within this sphere of His Personality, and are dependent upon it.)

My understanding of Colossians 1:18 is that the Creator of the world is also the Head of the Church, and that Christ is the origin or beginning of the Church, and that the verse is not referring to Jesus being born-again as some teach, but that He was the first to be raised from the dead with respect to the Resurrection, never to die again and that He is the First and Foremost at it relates to the Church.



   
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I am sorry Letsargue but I do not understand what is it that you are saying to me.

Starting with Colossians 1:16 it is speaking that by Him (the one being spoken of in Colossians – Jesus Christ) were all things created, that are in Heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him, and for Him (Christ is the Creator of all [Jn. 1:3]):

Colossians 1:17 -- And He is before all things (preexistence), and by Him all things consist. (All things come to pass within this sphere of His Personality, and are dependent upon it.)

My understanding of Colossians 1:18 is that the Creator of the world is also the Head of the Church, and that Christ is the origin or beginning of the Church, and that the verse is not referring to Jesus being born-again as some teach, but that He was the first to be raised from the dead with respect to the Resurrection, never to die again and that He is the First and Foremost at it relates to the Church.


I know, I know!! – You’ll not Listen!! --- 1 Corinthians 2:14-16 KJV – “The NATURAL man RECEIVETH NOT THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD: for they are foolishness unto him: ((( “NEITHER CAN HE KNOW THEM” ))), because THEY ARE SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED. 15- But HE THAT IS SPIRITUAL JUDGETH ALL THINGS, YET HE HIMSELF IS JUDGED OF NO MAN. 16- For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? BUT WE HAVE THE MIND OF CHRIST”. -------//--- IS IT SURPRISING TO YOU THAT, -- all fools today say that THEY are among those who DISCERN / UNDERSTAND the Spiritual things while asking questions after questions and still cannot SEE that THEY are not among those who have THE MIND OF CHRIST / THE HOLY GHOST TO ANSWER THEIR ((((( QUESTIONS )))))!! – It doesn’t matter what God said to the LOST, it’s still the LOST that killed Jesus for being (( right ))!!---- Read the Book!!!

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I know, I know!! – You’ll not Listen!! --- 1 Corinthians 2:14-16 KJV – “The NATURAL man RECEIVETH NOT THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD: for they are foolishness unto him: ((( “NEITHER CAN HE KNOW THEM” ))), because THEY ARE SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED. 15- But HE THAT IS SPIRITUAL JUDGETH ALL THINGS, YET HE HIMSELF IS JUDGED OF NO MAN. 16- For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? BUT WE HAVE THE MIND OF CHRIST”. -------//--- IS IT SURPRISING TO YOU THAT, -- all fools today say that THEY are among those who DISCERN / UNDERSTAND the Spiritual things while asking questions after questions and still cannot SEE that THEY are not among those who have THE MIND OF CHRIST / THE HOLY GHOST TO ANSWER THEIR ((((( QUESTIONS )))))!! – It doesn’t matter what God said to the LOST, it’s still the LOST that killed Jesus for being (( right ))!!---- Read the Book!!!

Paul – 050312
I am sorry Letsargue, do not feel like arguing today, please go back and read my response to you. I believe that I answered your question as best I could, not really understanding what you were trying for me to see.

Even in this response, there is much here to agree with -- not everything, but much to agree with, but I guess that makes me a fool nevertheless. That's OK though.



   
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I am sorry Letsargue, do not feel like arguing today, please go back and read my response to you. I believe that I answered your question as best I could, not really understanding what you were trying for me to see.

Even in this response, there is much here to agree with -- not everything, but much to agree with, but I guess that makes me a fool nevertheless. That's OK though.


God just said what He said. - That's what answers every question that any unlearned person could possibly ever ask!! - But that isn't enough. - Foolish people want more than what God has given of HIMSELF BY DYING THAT YOU MAY HAVE FAITH IN WHAT HE HAS GIVEN. - And all that God gave is His Word, but they want more than Jesus' death; they want "BLOOD", and more "BLOOD" instead of the "WATER" that is OURS BY FAITH!!!!

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God just said what He said. - That's what answers every question that any unlearned person could possibly ever ask!!
Agree totally with you here.

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- But that isn't enough. - Foolish people want more than what God has given of HIMSELF BY DYING THAT YOU MAY HAVE FAITH IN WHAT HE HAS GIVEN.
Agree totally with you here.

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- And all that God gave is His Word, but they want more than Jesus' death; they want "BLOOD", and more "BLOOD"
Hebrews 9:22 -- And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

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- instead of the "WATER" that is OURS BY FAITH!!!!
You have to be more specific here about what you mean by 'water' that is 'ours by faith.'



   
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Agree totally with you here.



Agree totally with you here.



Hebrews 9:22 -- And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.



You have to be more specific here about what you mean by 'water' that is 'ours by faith.'


You are not UNDER THE LAW!!!! – Yes, - all who “WERE” under the Law “WERE” purged, or made clean by Jesus’ “BLOOD” from HIS blood pump / heart. -- BUT / HOWEVER!! – The Gentiles were / are NOT UNDER THE LAW to be purged, or made clean by His RED Blood. -- The Gentles were washed in the “WATER” that was shed at the same time, for the Gentiles. It’s called the “WATER OF THE WORD”, OR “THE GOSPEL”!! - The Lost are washed in the Gospel, the Water of the Word / Jesus.
This is not going to be enough; you are going on, and on until I say something that you KNOW THAT IS WRONG. - But you then will still just be guessing!!

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Romans 2:16
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You are not UNDER THE LAW!!!!
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– Yes, - all who “WERE” under the Law “WERE” purged, or made clean by Jesus’ “BLOOD” from HIS blood pump / heart.
If they accepted it.

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-- BUT / HOWEVER!! – The Gentiles were / are NOT UNDER THE LAW to be purged, or made clean by His RED Blood. -- The Gentles were washed in the “WATER” that was shed at the same time, for the Gentiles. It’s called the “WATER OF THE WORD”, OR “THE GOSPEL”!! - The Lost are washed in the Gospel, the Water of the Word / Jesus.
But EVERYONE [Jews and Gentiles] has to come through same way --- The Cross through the Blood.

Ephesians 2:13 --But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off [GENTILES] are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

Ephesians 2:17-18 -- He came and preached peace to you who were far away [GENTILES] and peace to those who were near [JEWS]. For through him [JESUS AND WHAT HE DID ON THE CROSS] we both [JEWS AND GENTILES] have access to the Father by one Spirit."

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This is not going to be enough; you are going on, and on until I say something that you KNOW THAT IS WRONG. - But you then will still just be guessing!!Paul – 050512
God forbid that I am conversing with you to find fault. God forbid! I think you have excellent points. There are some points THAT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND, but that is only because I am not you and that's why I ask questions. No more no less.



   
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Agreed.



If they accepted it.



But EVERYONE [Jews and Gentiles] has to come through same way --- The Cross through the Blood.

Ephesians 2:13 --But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off [GENTILES] are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

Ephesians 2:17-18 -- He came and preached peace to you who were far away [GENTILES] and peace to those who were near [JEWS]. For through him [JESUS AND WHAT HE DID ON THE CROSS] we both [JEWS AND GENTILES] have access to the Father by one Spirit."



God forbid that I am conversing with you to find fault. God forbid! I think you have excellent points. There are some points THAT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND, but that is only because I am not you and that's why I ask questions. No more no less.


NO!! – Under the Law, there was no accepting it, or not accepting it. - The blood removed their sins regardless. However, that’s not the case with the washing of the Saints that the Lord shed the water for. - The Lost and the Jews must accept the Gospel, ( which is the Water of the Word ) which is to those who are without Christ, Jew and Gentile, or “ALL” GENTILES.

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