ReligionDiscuss General Theology, Religions and Denominations, God's Attributes, Predestination and Free Will, Dispensationalism, Eschatology, Philosophy, Origins, Archaeology, Science, World History and other such topics.
Hymns or Praise and Worship music? -
April 21st, 2012, 04:53 PM
which one do you prefer and why?
if your church switched to the opposite of your preference would you leave the Church over it?
are hymns the only appropriate way to worship? or are they simply anachronistic.
are Praise and Worship choruses the way forward?... or is there room for both in the future.
Should P&W choruses be more "in you face" as far as it's message or is it fine the way it is?
just curious as to how you guys feel..... my mothers church is battling over this issue as we speak with people leaving the church over it.
Orthodoxy is just the Tyranny of the Majority, a Spiritual Despotism where accepted doctrine is Sacred, Untouchable self-evident truth no matter how absurd it may be.
Coming from a background that puts a lot of emphases of songs in church, I have to say that it makes no difference the style, as long as it is scriptural, respectful, and doesn't cross the boundaries of the congregations conscious it's worship.
I see no real different between hymns and more modern praise and worship music. I think its just different era's and different styles. As long as it is God being glorified in the music, it doesn't matter to me which style its done in.
Slogan/motto:
"Clichés are the bane of educated mankind."
-P.C. Cast
Reputation:
April 22nd, 2012, 09:28 AM
As an instrumentalist, I enjoy "praise choruses" because they allow a great deal of variety on the instrumental side.
I enjoy hymns because they offer a consistent challenge in chord progressions, harmonies, and rhythms.
As a vocalist, I enjoy "praise choruses" because their repetitious nature allows for a gradual building of energy and intensity (matched by changes in the instrumental parts), which makes the worship time of the service a very emotional and impactful experience of God's presence.
I enjoy hymns because there are actual voice parts to follow (I'm a bass), and it feels cool when my parents are in town to hear myself, my wife, and my parents covering all four voice parts between us (wife and mom are mezzo-sopranos capable of singing either women's parts, and dad's a tenor).
My pastors try to take a balanced approach between the two, and I agree.
If you shut out everything old, you imply that the older songs have nothing to offer, which is false, and are in danger of alienating your older congregation members.
If you shut out everything new, you imply that newer Christian musicians have nothing to offer, which is false, and are in danger of alienating your next generations of congregation members.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan Fontenot
Still think instruments shouldn't be used...
And just leave your congregation members who have dedicated their lives to instrumental mastery out in the cold?
Vaya con Dios.
Dieu est l'amour.
Allah bidabbir.
“In many ways the evidence of our faith is found in our ability to control our tongue (or our keyboard)."
-Adam Hamilton, Seeing Gray in a World of Black and White
Psalm 150:3
Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the lute and harp.
praise him with tambourine and dancing, praise him with the strings and flute,praise him with the clash of cymbals, praise him with resounding cymbals.
I believe in biblical praise, and really don't know what these churches that forbid instruments are doing.
Slogan/motto:
"Clichés are the bane of educated mankind."
-P.C. Cast
Reputation:
April 22nd, 2012, 10:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremysdemo
Psalm 150:3
Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the lute and harp.
praise him with tambourine and dancing, praise him with the strings and flute,praise him with the clash of cymbals, praise him with resounding cymbals.
I believe in biblical praise, and really don't know what these churches that forbid instruments are doing.
keep shinin
jerm
The partial explanation I've been given is that some people feel that using instruments somehow automatically turns "worship" into a "show."
Doesn't make sense to me, but the Church of Christ congregations I've worshiped with in the past produced some amazing vocalists.
Vaya con Dios.
Dieu est l'amour.
Allah bidabbir.
“In many ways the evidence of our faith is found in our ability to control our tongue (or our keyboard)."
-Adam Hamilton, Seeing Gray in a World of Black and White
I prefer a more modern praise and worship style of music but I must confess that it also makes me a bit uncomfortable.
I have always wondered, when the "worship team" is done with a "set", who are we clapping for?
Galatians 5:22-23 (New International Version)
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
The partial explanation I've been given is that some people feel that using instruments somehow automatically turns "worship" into a "show."
I've seen that, even walked right out of the middle of such things and dusted off my feet.
regardless of what instrument one uses (drum, voice, etc) it's got to be the Spirit leading, I've seen people showing off with their voices too and over embellishing things purposefully so it's not just limited to external instruments.
Slogan/motto:
"Clichés are the bane of educated mankind."
-P.C. Cast
Reputation:
April 22nd, 2012, 11:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CabinetMaker
I prefer a more modern praise and worship style of music but I must confess that it also makes me a bit uncomfortable.
I have always wondered, when the "worship team" is done with a "set", who are we clapping for?
Our congregation usually just verbally expresses joy after a particularly powerful song.
When it's a soloist singing with an accompaniment trak, I clap as a thank-you for the person sharing the song, which ministered to them in private, with the congregation in public.
Vaya con Dios.
Dieu est l'amour.
Allah bidabbir.
“In many ways the evidence of our faith is found in our ability to control our tongue (or our keyboard)."
-Adam Hamilton, Seeing Gray in a World of Black and White
Slogan/motto:
...the older women likewise, that they be reverent in behavior, not slanderers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things— that they admonish the young women to love their husbands, to love thei
if your church switched to the opposite of your preference would you leave the Church over it?
are hymns the only appropriate way to worship? or are they simply anachronistic.
are Praise and Worship choruses the way forward?... or is there room for both in the future.
Should P&W choruses be more "in you face" as far as it's message or is it fine the way it is?
just curious as to how you guys feel..... my mothers church is battling over this issue as we speak with people leaving the church over it.
I prefer hymns. In fact, whenever I solo at my church, all I sing is hymns. But, my church rarely, if ever, does hymns. I know that I've never heard them playing/singing hymns and I've been going there for about seven years.
I won't leave my church over the music they play because it's a minor thing. I haven't found any other church that even comes close to what I believe.
June is Gay Pride Month. Tolerance and diversity? More like tolerate perversity.
Slogan/motto:
"Clichés are the bane of educated mankind."
-P.C. Cast
Reputation:
April 22nd, 2012, 01:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan Fontenot
Better than giving them "better seating" than the rest of the congregation because of it.
How do you define "better" seating?
Is your sanctuary divided into blacks-only and whites-only or something?
I've never seen a church sanctuary which was arranged in any way besides centering on the stage/pulpit.
My wife and I are part of our church's worship team, and we sit near the back.
Still waiting on an explanation of your irrational hatred of musical instruments.
Vaya con Dios.
Dieu est l'amour.
Allah bidabbir.
“In many ways the evidence of our faith is found in our ability to control our tongue (or our keyboard)."
-Adam Hamilton, Seeing Gray in a World of Black and White
Linear Mode
