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why is Satan called Father of all Lies? - April 27th, 2012, 12:40 PM

i never u/stood this when i was younger...

but now i see very clearly

that many things are lies but we dont perceive them as such

example:

the world says you are only "someone" if you have $$, looks, youth, prestige... etc...

But Jesus says you are worth dying for...

Just speaking from own experience

but i never felt my worth until i returned to Jesus' true Church, the Roman Catholic Church

so there's one lie you Catholic haters can't speak much about...



   
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April 27th, 2012, 12:48 PM

Satan Lied to God long ago and deceived Eve in the Garden of Eden.

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Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
nations!
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Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Ps 55:21 The words of his mouth were smoother than butter, but war was in his heart: his words were softer than oil, yet were they drawn swords.





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April 27th, 2012, 12:56 PM

Satan is the father of lies because he was a politician in heaven. Therefore GOD cast him,and all the other politicians who were "with" him down to earth. Lol...



   
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April 27th, 2012, 01:00 PM

He currently sits on a throne in Rome... Popes are just his puppets.



   
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He currently sits on a throne in Rome... Popes are just his puppets.
He also sit's on the throne of many protestant churches.



   
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April 27th, 2012, 01:06 PM

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He also sit's on the throne of many protestant churches.
He sits on the throne of any church that has men that make their living out of the offering plate.

To bad people never took Paul's recommendation seriously and didn't continue on with a real vocation and then serve the Lord out of love and the free time that God them.

Paul worked his trade for his room and board first, preached second.



   
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April 27th, 2012, 01:10 PM

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He sits on the throne of any church that has men that make their living out of the offering plate.

To bad people never took Paul's recommendation seriously and didn't continue on with a real vocation and then serve the Lord out of love and the free time that God them.

Paul worked his trade for his room and board first, preached second.
Amen bro! Plus how many church's do we find especially in America that resemble this:
Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

Act 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
Act 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
Act 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,



   
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April 27th, 2012, 01:49 PM

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i never u/stood this when i was younger...

but now i see very clearly

that many things are lies but we dont perceive them as such

example:

the world says you are only "someone" if you have $$, looks, youth, prestige... etc...

But Jesus says you are worth dying for...

Just speaking from own experience

but i never felt my worth until i returned to Jesus' true Church, the Roman Catholic Church

so there's one lie you Catholic haters can't speak much about...
The thread title did catch my eye

why is Satan called Father of all Lies?

Your apologetic on the other hand






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April 27th, 2012, 01:54 PM

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i never u/stood this when i was younger...

but now i see very clearly

that many things are lies but we dont perceive them as such

example:

the world says you are only "someone" if you have $$, looks, youth, prestige... etc...

But Jesus says you are worth dying for...

Just speaking from own experience

but i never felt my worth until i returned to Jesus' true Church, the Roman Catholic Church

so there's one lie you Catholic haters can't speak much about...
Your thread title is false adverting as in dissing Satan.



   
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April 27th, 2012, 02:00 PM

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Satan Lied to God long ago and deceived Eve in the Garden of Eden.

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Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
nations!
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Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Ps 55:21 The words of his mouth were smoother than butter, but war was in his heart: his words were softer than oil, yet were they drawn swords.
Where is your evidence that Satan lied, I see nothing in your quotes , just comdemnation? Satan give mankind knowledge and freedom which stopped Adam and Eve being thoughtless slaves of a dictator god.



   
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April 28th, 2012, 12:10 AM

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i never u/stood this when i was younger...

but now i see very clearly

that many things are lies but we dont perceive them as such

example:

the world says you are only "someone" if you have $$, looks, youth, prestige... etc...

But Jesus says you are worth dying for...

Just speaking from own experience

but i never felt my worth until i returned to Jesus' true Church, the Roman Catholic Church

so there's one lie you Catholic haters can't speak much about...
Those who do not believe the truth are of the devil.

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is [b]no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of i"t (John 8:44).




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Satan Lied to God long ago and deceived Eve in the Garden of Eden.

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Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
nations!
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Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Ps 55:21 The words of his mouth were smoother than butter, but war was in his heart: his words were softer than oil, yet were they drawn swords.
wow... what a shock... no anti Catholic hate stuff... hmmm...

oh yea... that's right...

not your own words this time

you were quoting scripture....



   
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He also sit's on the throne of many protestant churches.
let's face it... he sits on the throne everywhere... because people, willingly or unjknowingly...

put him there



   
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April 28th, 2012, 12:06 PM

I believe that we were all involved in what is called the angelic fall pre-earth. As spirits we enjoyed each other's company until we were asked to choose to accede to GOD's plan for our creation or to reject HIM in true free will fashion but we had to commit.

Just as someone had to be the first and thereby the strongest and brightest of all to commit to GOD's will, there had to a first to reject GOD's will and thereby become the darkest, most evil, the one who led astry others who loved him more than they feared GOD's warnings.

But I doubt if these are the lies he was father to...since no proof had yet been given as to whether reality as GOD had painted it was true or not. But once HIS power and majesty was proven by the physical creation of the univese and every knee bowed and every voice sang HIS praise, then satan knew his fate was sealed though it was to be postponed by the unwillingness of some of GOD's newly elect to "come out from among them" in their hearts so they could be judged, self choosing to become sinful elect.

Since the promise of election entailed their never facing judgment to hell, such judgment (which would have done just that) had to be postponed until they were redeemed and sanctified.

So the lies satan tells are directed toward the sinful elect:
- to convince them to continue to refuse damantion as a righteous judgment
- to keep them in their addiction to sin
- to keep them from becoming holy as long as possible, thereby extending his time outside of judgment

AS Peter tells us : to hasten the day of judgment we should all live holy lives, 2 Peter 3:11-12 which is also the import of the parabel of the Wheat and the Tares:
Matthew 13:28 - He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto Him, Wilt Thou then that we go and gather them up? :29 - But He said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

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April 28th, 2012, 01:13 PM

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i never u/stood this when i was younger...

but now i see very clearly

that many things are lies but we dont perceive them as such

example:

the world says you are only "someone" if you have $$, looks, youth, prestige... etc...

But Jesus says you are worth dying for...

Just speaking from own experience

but i never felt my worth until i returned to Jesus' true Church, the Roman Catholic Church

so there's one lie you Catholic haters can't speak much about...
Why is Satan called the father of lies?

Because he is.

John 8:44

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

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"And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

"For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?" Psalm 6:5

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