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Satan Lied to God long ago and deceived Eve in the Garden of Eden.
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Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
nations!
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Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Ps 55:21 The words of his mouth were smoother than butter, but war was in his heart: his words were softer than oil, yet were they drawn swords.
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"The Chief End of Me Is To Love GOD & Enjoy Him Forever!"
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April 27th, 2012, 12:56 PM
Satan is the father of lies because he was a politician in heaven. Therefore GOD cast him,and all the other politicians who were "with" him down to earth. Lol...
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For as much as it depends on you, live at peace with others.
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April 27th, 2012, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SeraphimsCherub
He also sit's on the throne of many protestant churches.
He sits on the throne of any church that has men that make their living out of the offering plate.
To bad people never took Paul's recommendation seriously and didn't continue on with a real vocation and then serve the Lord out of love and the free time that God them.
Paul worked his trade for his room and board first, preached second.
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"The Chief End of Me Is To Love GOD & Enjoy Him Forever!"
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April 27th, 2012, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HisServant
He sits on the throne of any church that has men that make their living out of the offering plate.
To bad people never took Paul's recommendation seriously and didn't continue on with a real vocation and then serve the Lord out of love and the free time that God them.
Paul worked his trade for his room and board first, preached second.
Amen bro! Plus how many church's do we find especially in America that resemble this:
Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Act 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
Act 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
Act 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
"A time to throw stones and a time to gather stones; A time to embrace and a time to shun embracing. A time to search and a time to give up as lost; A time to keep and a time to throw away...."
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Science and the scientific method is the only reliable way to knowledge.
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April 27th, 2012, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by OMEGA
Satan Lied to God long ago and deceived Eve in the Garden of Eden.
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Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
nations!
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Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Ps 55:21 The words of his mouth were smoother than butter, but war was in his heart: his words were softer than oil, yet were they drawn swords.
Where is your evidence that Satan lied, I see nothing in your quotes , just comdemnation? Satan give mankind knowledge and freedom which stopped Adam and Eve being thoughtless slaves of a dictator god.
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Protestant Christian
More right than left
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"One Day AT A Time" Taken from that Old Gospel Classic.
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April 28th, 2012, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TruthSetsFree
i never u/stood this when i was younger...
but now i see very clearly
that many things are lies but we dont perceive them as such
example:
the world says you are only "someone" if you have $$, looks, youth, prestige... etc...
But Jesus says you are worth dying for...
Just speaking from own experience
but i never felt my worth until i returned to Jesus' true Church, the Roman Catholic Church
so there's one lie you Catholic haters can't speak much about...
Those who do not believe the truth are of the devil.
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is [b]no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of i"t (John 8:44).
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love others as u love yourself... and thank God you dont have to like them
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April 28th, 2012, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by OMEGA
Satan Lied to God long ago and deceived Eve in the Garden of Eden.
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Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
nations!
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Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Ps 55:21 The words of his mouth were smoother than butter, but war was in his heart: his words were softer than oil, yet were they drawn swords.
wow... what a shock... no anti Catholic hate stuff... hmmm...
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I know a lot of fancy dancers
People who can glide you on a floor
They move so smooth but have no answers
When you ask "Why'd you come here for?"
~ Cat Stevens
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April 28th, 2012, 12:06 PM
I believe that we were all involved in what is called the angelic fall pre-earth. As spirits we enjoyed each other's company until we were asked to choose to accede to GOD's plan for our creation or to reject HIM in true free will fashion but we had to commit.
Just as someone had to be the first and thereby the strongest and brightest of all to commit to GOD's will, there had to a first to reject GOD's will and thereby become the darkest, most evil, the one who led astry others who loved him more than they feared GOD's warnings.
But I doubt if these are the lies he was father to...since no proof had yet been given as to whether reality as GOD had painted it was true or not. But once HIS power and majesty was proven by the physical creation of the univese and every knee bowed and every voice sang HIS praise, then satan knew his fate was sealed though it was to be postponed by the unwillingness of some of GOD's newly elect to "come out from among them" in their hearts so they could be judged, self choosing to become sinful elect.
Since the promise of election entailed their never facing judgment to hell, such judgment (which would have done just that) had to be postponed until they were redeemed and sanctified.
So the lies satan tells are directed toward the sinful elect:
- to convince them to continue to refuse damantion as a righteous judgment
- to keep them in their addiction to sin
- to keep them from becoming holy as long as possible, thereby extending his time outside of judgment
AS Peter tells us : to hasten the day of judgment we should all live holy lives, 2 Peter 3:11-12 which is also the import of the parabel of the Wheat and the Tares:
Matthew 13:28 - He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto Him, Wilt Thou then that we go and gather them up? :29 - But He said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
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II Timothy 2:15, Psalms 6:5, I John 3:1-2, Romans 5:1 I John 4:18, I Timothy 2:4-5, II Corinthians 9:8,11, III John 2
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April 28th, 2012, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TruthSetsFree
i never u/stood this when i was younger...
but now i see very clearly
that many things are lies but we dont perceive them as such
example:
the world says you are only "someone" if you have $$, looks, youth, prestige... etc...
But Jesus says you are worth dying for...
Just speaking from own experience
but i never felt my worth until i returned to Jesus' true Church, the Roman Catholic Church
so there's one lie you Catholic haters can't speak much about...
Why is Satan called the father of lies?
Because he is.
John 8:44
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
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"And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42
"For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?" Psalm 6:5