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Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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April 27th, 2012, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick M
The Lord Jesus Christ is God.
The Lord Jesus Christ can be your God without Him being the God.
The Lord Jesus Christ can be your God without Him being the God.
Money and power is a God to most folks.
Psalm 1[/color] and Job 28:28
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.
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Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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II Timothy 2:15, Psalms 6:5, I John 3:1-2, Romans 5:1 I John 4:18, I Timothy 2:4-5, II Corinthians 9:8,11, III John 2
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April 28th, 2012, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Wile E. Coyote
I have discoursed with many kinds of Unitarians over the course of several years and I have found the same thing in common among them here as I have found elsewhere. They cannot agree on who Jesus is. There are so many Unitarian views of Jesus that I call all Unitarianism the "Heinz 57" theology.
There is a reason for this. Unitarians deny that men should honor the Son "EVEN AS" they honor the Father. Therefore, they are left to their own individual and SUBJECTIVE views on how much the Son is to be honored. Their various views regarding the person of the Son determines the degree to which they honor Him. They are forced to match their view of Jesus with the degree they will honor Him. But the Father's mandate that the Son be honored "EVEN AS" Himself takes away all human subjectivity."
To the extent that men do not honor the Son is the extent to which they do not honor the Father.
"That all men should honour the Son, EVEN AS they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. John 5:23 KJV
One reason why is because since most of us where raised in trinitarian paganism, we all have a learning curve to grow into.
Since it is so obvious that the trinity is a devilish lie, just about any
unitarian doctrine is an improvement
We have to over come thousands of years of lies.
That is not an easy task.
But we keep on learning from scripture, not opinions based upon pagan mythology about scripture
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"And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42
"For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?" Psalm 6:5
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Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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April 29th, 2012, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Wile E. Coyote
But Goel (Jesus) said, "There is no God beside me" Isaiah 44:6.
Furthermore, the Father addressed the Son as "the God" (hotheos),
But to the Son He (the Father) says, "Your throne the God (hotheos) is forever and ever...." Hebrews 1:8
Your Polytheism comes out!
God is a Spirit , the creator and Father of Jesus the man, Gods son through Mary.
God has MADE Jesus to be both Lord and Christ.
You do not believe that God has made a man in his own image.
You are an unbeliever, who has not known Jesus Christ or you would know that He is a man gloried by God His Father.
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Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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April 29th, 2012, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Wile E. Coyote
But Goel (Jesus) said, "There is no God beside me" Isaiah 44:6.
Furthermore, the Father addressed the Son as "the God" (hotheos),
But to the Son He (the Father) says, "Your throne the God (hotheos) is forever and ever...." Hebrews 1:8
I know all non-trin I know claim that Jesus is Son of God and Savior or the world, and is given Jesus authority by His Father to be His followers' Lord. What makes you think we dont agree? On the other hand, Trins have tons of ways to justify trinity. It is just gigantic mess to say the least. sheesh.
There are more trinitarian denominations and beliefs they argue over, than there are unitarian, so best you up the Heinz number with a heap of zeros at the end for trinitarian theology
Jesus was a unitarian ie Jew ... so best not to pick on his choice of theology
God is a Spirit , the creator and Father of Jesus the man, Gods son through Mary.
Jesus is spirit too. His flesh was called a "tent" which means that it was only temporary. He has returned to being spirit like He was before, 1 Corinthians 15:45.
Premise 1: God is spirit
Premise 2: Jesus is spirit
Conclusion: Therefore, Jesus is God
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God has MADE Jesus to be both Lord and Christ.
Jesus made Himself a servant. As an obedient servant God exalted Him and made Him what He was before, Philippians 2:5-11.
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You do not believe that God has made a man in his own image.
It is YOU who denies that man is made in God's image. You deny the "US" in, "Let US make man in OUR image."
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You are an unbeliever, who has not known Jesus Christ or you would know that He is a man gloried by God His Father.
You are an unbeliever because you do not know that Jesus was God before He became man, Philippians 2:5-11.
There are more trinitarian denominations and beliefs they argue over, than there are unitarian, so best you up the Heinz number with a heap of zeros at the end for trinitarian theology
Jesus was a unitarian ie Jew ... so best not to pick on his choice of theology
You're wrong. There are NOT many trinitarian views.
Jesus was NOT a Unitarian. The Father was not a Unitarian either. He addressed His Son as "the God," Hebrews 1:8.
What do you mean I lie about the verse. The Father is addressing the Son saying, "Your throne O (the) God is forever and ever." The English 'O' is the Greek article "ho" (the).
The Father called the Son "the God." You call the Father a liar and then have the audacity to say I lie.
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