Why is it the multitudes are taking the bait and the Lies are being swallowed? - Theology Online

LoveOfTheTruth

Why is it that the multitudes are "Taking the Bait(ease of life), and The Lies are being Swallowed(believed), Hook(money), Line(education, religion, media), and Sinker(progress, technology)"?

student x · April 28th, 2012, 08:55 PM

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Why is it that the multitudes are "Taking the Bait(ease of life), and The Lies are being Swallowed(believed), Hook(money), Line(education, religion, media), and Sinker(progress, technology)"?

Bradley D · April 29th, 2012, 01:14 AM

People love lies that tell them what they want to hear.

"The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?" (Jer. 5:31).

In politics they are known as "campaign promises."

One Eyed Jack · April 29th, 2012, 05:14 AM

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People love lies that tell them what they want to hear.

"The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?" (Jer. 5:31).

In politics they are known as "campaign promises."

Yep.

PureX · April 29th, 2012, 05:17 AM

Why is it always only the people who disagree with us that are doing all the lying?

LoveOfTheTruth · April 29th, 2012, 07:24 AM

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People love lies that tell them what they want to hear.

"The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?" (Jer. 5:31).

In politics they are known as "campaign promises."

Exactly what religion is all about )-;

Mahatma Gandhi testified: “Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is.”

So the need for The Call of "Our Father and GOD" to resound:

"Come Out of her(babel>confusion>babylon<>world>religion), MY people!"

"Come Out" of the systems that are of this wicked, evil world(babylon) and especially it's systems of religion!

Be of those who "forsake all," "Yes! and your own life as well", just as The Messiah did!

Be of those who tarry in, yet are not of, this wicked, evil world!

"Aliens and pilgrims while on the earth" whose "citizenship(Life) is in Heaven" ndeed and Truth, for soon, and very soon, we will be taken Home, Home at last!

Till then:

HOPE IS!

For TRUTH IS!

LoveOfTheTruth · April 29th, 2012, 07:27 AM

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Why is it always only the people who disagree with us that are doing all the lying?

Well at the very least you made a statement that rings true to you profile )-;

Bradley D · April 29th, 2012, 09:55 PM

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Exactly what religion is all about )-;

Mahatma Gandhi testified: “Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is.”

"If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world" (James 1:26-27).

Ktoyou · April 29th, 2012, 10:27 PM

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Exactly what religion is all about )-;

Mahatma Gandhi testified: “Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is.”

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Then perhaps you should follow Gandhi? You do not seem to desire to learn, rather complain and that sets you up for appearing like a goofball. Have a positive perspective, try to find some commonality.

If it is truth you seek, then seek it righteously.

LoveOfTheTruth · April 30th, 2012, 08:45 AM

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"If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world" (James 1:26-27).

ABSOLUTELY!

Yet few realize that ALL OTHER RELIGION IS IMPURE AND DEFILED!

And that "the fatherless" are those who have no common union with The ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD, Father of ALL )-;

And "widows" are those whose who don't realize that their "bridegroom" has risen from among the dead )-;

"Uncontaminated by the world"!

So it is that the brethren of The Messiah choose to remain but "aliens and pilgrims while on the earth", for the BORN ANEW sons of GOD realize that their "citizenship(Life) is in Heaven" and that soon, and very soon, we will be taken Home, Home at last!

With Our Father and GOD, The Messiah, and The Faithful in NEW "Jerusalem above which is the mother of us all"! (Gal4:26)

Till then:

HOPE IS!

For TRUTH IS! "THY Kingdom(of GOD IN HEAVEN)" HAS "Come"!

And The Family of "Our Father and GOD" IS! (Eph3:15)

Town Heretic · April 30th, 2012, 09:03 AM

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Why is it that the multitudes are "Taking the Bait(ease of life), and The Lies are being Swallowed(believed), Hook(money), Line(education, religion, media), and Sinker(progress, technology)"?

Probably because of something you did...but that's just a guess.

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Why is it always only the people who disagree with us that are doing all the lying?

The other guy. He's a problem.

highlife · April 30th, 2012, 08:27 PM

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Why is it that the multitudes are "Taking the Bait(ease of life), and The Lies are being Swallowed(believed), Hook(money), Line(education, religion, media), and Sinker(progress, technology)"?

Do you like having a hard life for no good reason and being ignorant if you had no education. The bible teaches morals, not how to actually accomplish anything here on earth. I agree some people worship money but it is an unfortunate nessicity to exist in society and depending on what you want out of life will determine how much of it you need. As an engineer I cant get on board with your anti technology stance.

Even Jesus was a carpenter into his 30's, im sure he was good at it and had training and education.

LoveOfTheTruth · May 1st, 2012, 03:14 PM

Thankfully i am no longer a corporate president, or computer consultant, nor have i had anything to do with the progressive destruction of Creation for some 20 years now. Thoreau realized and bore witness of that which i have experienced.

And now, i am in agreement with that which the Hopi peoples of AZ used to bear witness of:

"A Simple and Spiritual Life is the only Life that will survive"

And i don't believe a carpenter back in The Messiah's time had anything to do with the destruction and perversion of this day.

"ease of life", and mankind's "imag"ination most certainly have )-;

Not looking for anyone to get "on board"!

Just hoping that others would question why they have their portion in the destruction of Creation(air, water, land, vegetation, creatures) and the perversion of that which is Spirit(Truth, Light, Life, Love, Peace, Faith, Grace, Wisdom,,,,, ALL that is Truly GOOD)?

Could be there are those whose conscience has not been seared with a hot iron!

highlife · May 1st, 2012, 06:46 PM

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Thankfully i am no longer a corporate president, or computer consultant, nor have i had anything to do with the progressive destruction of Creation for some 20 years now. Thoreau realized and bore witness of that which i have experienced.

And now, i am in agreement with that which the Hopi peoples of AZ used to bear witness of:

"A Simple and Spiritual Life is the only Life that will survive"

And i don't believe a carpenter back in The Messiah's time had anything to do with the destruction and perversion of this day.

"ease of life", and mankind's "imag"ination most certainly have )-;

Not looking for anyone to get "on board"!

Just hoping that others would question why they have their portion in the destruction of Creation(air, water, land, vegetation, creatures) and the perversion of that which is Spirit(Truth, Light, Life, Love, Peace, Faith, Grace, Wisdom,,,,, ALL that is Truly GOOD)?

Could be there are those whose conscience has not been seared with a hot iron!

I dont know, its hard to understand what you are talking about. I like being comfortable so I am going to work towards that end. ie, warmth, good food, entertainment, meaningful work, relationship, all of these things require resources and are critical to being a healthy human being. I guess you gave all your money away from being a CEO and live with the amish now?

Im sure you enjoyed the income of being a CEO for all thoes years, its kind of tough to convince others of something when you yourself enjoyed thoes fruits for so long ... why shouldent someone with the similar drive and apptitude strive for the same. Striving for comfort in this life does not preclude one of also being a christian.

LoveOfTheTruth · May 1st, 2012, 07:53 PM

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I dont know, its hard to understand what you are talking about. I like being comfortable so I am going to work towards that end. ie, warmth, good food, entertainment, meaningful work, relationship, all of these things require resources and are critical to being a healthy human being. I guess you gave all your money away from being a CEO and live with the amish now?

Im sure you enjoyed the income of being a CEO for all thoes years, its kind of tough to convince others of something when you yourself enjoyed thoes fruits for so long ... why shouldent someone with the similar drive and apptitude strive for the same. Striving for comfort in this life does not preclude one of also being a christian.

No, i did not partake of "ease of life" for a very long time, actually and thankfully the time was short!

For when one reaches a certain level within the capitalistic system you suddenly find yourself in a position where either your regard for The Truth takes the back seat as profit(greed) drives, or you get out of the vehicle and walk!

Thankfully i walked away from all i had dreamed of at the age of 39.

Father Help! and HE does.......

And i seek and desire not to be "a healthy human being", but i seek and desire above all else that which The Messiah desired above all else:

"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done!"

And yes, there have been times, good times, when i had not a penny in my pocket or in an account.

As for the amish, yes i appreciate their simple non-destructive ways regarding Creation, and their loyalty to family and community, yet liken unto the pharisee's they live of their ordung(law) and each amish community has their own version of ordung(order) )-;

Our Father and GOD, HE did not create clones!

And "it is not in man to order his own steps".......

Yet needs be one desires above all else that which The Messiah desired above all else:

"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done!"

One who believes otherwise yet has an "uncircumcised heart" )-;