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Presidential Politics in a nutshell - April 29th, 2012, 01:13 PM

Romney's republican message to Obama

Regarding the economic mess a republican President caused
you are not getting us out of it fast enough.

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Obama's democratic message to Romney

You want to return to the economic policies that created the
economic mess we are slowly emerging out of.



   
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April 29th, 2012, 02:32 PM

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Romney's republican message to Obama

Regarding the economic mess a republican President caused
you are not getting us out of it fast enough.

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Obama's democratic message to Romney

You want to return to the economic policies that created the
economic mess we are slowly emerging out of.
They're both right, except that the reason we are so slow to come out of this economic mess is that the republicans oppose every possible solution. And they oppose every solution because they still want to follow the same old policies that created the mess in the first place. And they want to blame everything on us, because they intend to make us pay for it all.



   
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April 29th, 2012, 02:45 PM

As far as I can figure out the republican solution would be to cancel social security and medicare and re-deploy the payroll taxes on workers to reduce the national debt and maybe bail out the CEO's and shareholders of a few more industries.

Good plan but the numbers don't work.



   
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April 29th, 2012, 02:58 PM

They are both wrong.

The economic mess came from allowing two political parties to form an oligarchy where they fool the public into thinking the other party is to blame while both parties steal from the public to pay off the corporations that pay for their political campaigning.





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April 29th, 2012, 03:35 PM

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They are both wrong.
well, that solves your problem - just stay home on election day.



   
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April 29th, 2012, 03:43 PM

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They are both wrong.

The economic mess came from allowing two political parties to form an oligarchy where they fool the public into thinking the other party is to blame while both parties steal from the public to pay off the corporations that pay for their political campaigning.
That's all true. But the issue was is it Obama's fault that we're still wallowing in a poor economy? And do you think Romney will significantly improve things?

I say, "mostly no", and, "most likely no".



   
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April 29th, 2012, 04:16 PM

President R-money just sounds a bit classist.



   
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April 29th, 2012, 04:47 PM

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That's all true. But the issue was is it Obama's fault that we're still wallowing in a poor economy? And do you think Romney will significantly improve things?
Yes, it was Senator Obama's fault that we are still wallowing in a poor economy.
No, Romney will not significantly improve things.

There is only one thing that Americans can do to fix the country that has been ruined by Democrats and Republicans.

Throw the bums out!





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April 29th, 2012, 06:46 PM

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Yes, it was Senator Obama's fault that we are still wallowing in a poor economy.
No, Romney will not significantly improve things.

There is only one thing that Americans can do to fix the country that has been ruined by Democrats and Republicans.

Throw the bums out!
Actually the thing we have never faced is that war is our major industry but we have never figured out how to charge for it properly. We need to bill the Saudi's, Afghanistan, Germany, Turkey and etc.... etc. for policing the world. There is no reason we should have a budget in deficit. We do not have a problem with economic activity but we do have a serious billing problem. We seriously need to privatize this and let Morgan Stanley handle the billing for our world policing activities.



   
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April 29th, 2012, 07:43 PM

Barry the Food Stamp president.
Its not about Dem or Rep its about overspending ...if a Dem/Rep were to cut government spending,have a policy of oil independence, abolish the tax code for a consumption tax I'd be right in line to vote for him/her...however it was the Wilson (D), Roosevelt (D),Johnson(D), administrations that put the social programs in place that are now causing an unsupportable economic debt, their intentions might have been altruistic but the consequences were never fully thought out.



   
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May 1st, 2012, 01:36 PM

Politics in a nutshell

The things that democrats want (like keeping student loan interest rates low) have to be paid for Ė according to the republicans but donít ask a dime more from the wealthy.

The things that republicans want (like the Bush Tax cuts) donít have to be paid for Ė according to the republicans and especially donít ask a dime more from the wealthy.

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mone...ing-bush-rates



   
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May 1st, 2012, 01:46 PM

Yup they are both wrong.

1.) Obama wants to push his domestic issues with no funding for them. while continuing down the war spending path his predecessor wrongly went. He is also starting to understand that taxing something actually yields less income for the government.

2.) Romney thinks that cutting taxes is basically the only way to get us out of this mess.. while continuing Bush's policies abroad, which we cannot afford.

What we need to a president committed to removing loopholes slowly from our tax code, so that jobs are not lost.. no matter how much the companies complain that their free hand outs are going away, so that eventually everyone is taxed the same and is on the same playing field.

Because, admit it or not, business in America has changed from invention and manufacturing to seeing how much free money it can get from the government.. and that culture needs to stop.



   
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Because, admit it or not, business in America has changed from invention and manufacturing to seeing how much free money it can get from the government.. and that culture needs to stop.
It's not just getting free money from the government in the form of tax loopholes and low rates, the real killer for most of us is that they bribe the legislature to rig the system, allowing them to set up monopolies enabling them to price-gouge. There are so many corporate conglomerates doing this now that they're driving the middle class into the poor house, and the poor into the streets.

These corporate conglomerates and the politicians who do their bidding have the system so rigged in their favor that we're being severely price-gouged on the cost of drugs, the cost of health insurance, the cost of every form of health care, the cost of every form of energy or fuel: basically, anything that we can't live without has become monopolized to the point that we're being robbed every time we have to buy it. And the average family just can't afford the cost of all this runaway greed, even when both parents are working.

And add to this the fact that the government is now expecting the middle and working classes to pay for everything, including those big tax breaks for corporations and those nice low 15% tax rates being paid by all their wealthy friends and 'supporters' (like Mitt Romney).

They don't want to give up any of this very lucrative gravy train action they've got going, of course, so they're blaming all this price-gouging and tax evasion and the huge debt they've run up all on the poor. They're claiming that it's those lazy, low-life, poor people sponging off the government that are sucking up all the our tax money and creating all this debt. Even as they're driving more and more of us into being unemployed and poor.

It has reached the point of outrageousness, and yet we're still falling for their lies, and happily joining along with them in blaming each other, and cutting off our own noses just to spite our own faces. While they continue to rake in record profits, and record bonuses, and huge salaries, and then use it to bribe more and more legislators to rig the system even more in their favor, we're still busy blaming each other and happily voting to eliminate the few programs that the system actually still does that helps us. It's like we've all swallowed some kind of idiot pill, or something.



   
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May 7th, 2012, 02:08 PM

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Obama wants to push his domestic issues with no funding for them.
You must be confusing Obama with Bush Jr. - who didn't paid for his Medicare Part D program or include the cost of his 2 wars in his budget.



   
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May 7th, 2012, 02:12 PM

more like from a shelled nut





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