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May 1st, 2012, 02:46 PM

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Gutsy call? What about killing that slime ball was gutsy?
Ask Carter what a botched military action costs you politically.

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They make it sound like it was controversial or something.
Only if it fails. Then it's a painted on target inferring a wider ineptness.



   
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May 1st, 2012, 02:52 PM

Hindsight is 20/20. If the mission had failed you can bet your sweet bippy that the republicans and Romney would be singing a different tune. "No one in their right mind would have ordered that strike!" etc. It's all election year posturing. Would Romney have made the same call? I dunno and we'll never know. I do believe that McCain would have made the same call as Obama.

I find it a bit ironic that the republicans are making this such a big deal. The Obama administration/re-election team used it as ONE example of what had been accomplished during his tenure as president. They aren't hinging his entire re-election bid on this one decision.





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May 1st, 2012, 02:57 PM

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Every President is a commander in chief whether they like it or not. Doesn't matter who it is so the law is that the current President commands with a "yes" or a "no".

What really bothers me is that the Republicans are trying to turn America into Syria where leaders can't control their military.

Some don't get the meaning of "Most Votes" wins.

Its acutally a good plan becuase once the military is divorced from the elected officials they can do what they want as most of the people voting are weak and entitled, there can finally be a little house cleaning. When the military does not get the meaning of most votes wins then most votes wont win anymore lol, you will just be gunned down.



   
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May 1st, 2012, 03:25 PM

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Hindsight is 20/20. If the mission had failed you can bet your sweet bippy that the republicans and Romney would be singing a different tune. "No one in their right mind would have ordered that strike!" etc. It's all election year posturing. Would Romney have made the same call? I dunno and we'll never know. I do believe that McCain would have made the same call as Obama.

I find it a bit ironic that the republicans are making this such a big deal. The Obama administration/re-election team used it as ONE example of what had been accomplished during his tenure as president. They aren't hinging his entire re-election bid on this one decision.
Why should I care about the Republicans? Even if it had failed it was the right call. About the only thing he's done since taking the seat.





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May 1st, 2012, 03:36 PM

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Killing OBL was a no-brainer. Why is Obama trying to take credit for the efforts of others who were in harm's way?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall that there was any other President who gave the executive order for the SEAL raid on Bin Laden?

Did the SEALs go renegade and do it without orders? Or did another President give the order? Maybe a posthumous executive order from Reagan? (After all, TSF has been praying to Reagan... ). If so, I don't think Obama ought to associate himself with that.





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May 1st, 2012, 03:40 PM

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Gutsy call? What about killing that slime ball was gutsy? They make it sound like it was controversial or something.
Clinton was paid two million dollars to do the ad. You want him to say gutsy--he says gutsy (Ex. 23:1). 30 Apr 2012 Dick Morris, Fox News






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May 1st, 2012, 03:58 PM

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Why should I care about the Republicans? Even if it had failed it was the right call. About the only thing he's done since taking the seat.
I honestly couldn't care less whom you care about. I do agree that it was the right call whether it succeeded or failed. The point I was making is that I'm sure in this election year, had the mission failed, the republicans would be using it up the ying yang to demonstrate what a bad leader Obama is. It's this little thing called hypocrisy that really annoys me.





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Nah.. the democrats are fixing nothing.. they are continuing on with the same policies (our troops are still in the middle east aren't they?)

I honestly believe that if the world trade center had been hit during Obama's presidency, little if anything would have transpired differently. We would have retaliated against Afghanistan and eventually we would have ended up in Iraq anyhow.

Not to mention that electric cars are demonstrably worse for the environment than gas cars.. the difference is on the front and back ends (The cars are more costly on the environment to make and dispose of)
The oil spill did boost the emergency in making alternative energy. Obama and I listened to Al Gore on the global warming. A need to clean up pollution is happening while the Democrats are running.
You may be right that batteries isn't good like we think it is.
The Democrats did change the long wanted healthcare. The Republicans smashed Hillary Clinton tempt to fix healthcare years ago.
I agree with Michael Moore's presentation on healthcare.
How else are we going to regulate Wall Street and Healthcare?

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Clinton was paid two million dollars to do the ad. You want him to say gutsy--he says gutsy 30 Apr 2012 Dick Morris, Fox News
That's your guy? He works as a paid political gun for campaigns Fox allows him to "analyze".

Didn't find the claim and you didn't cite to after Googling the key terms but it's a little hypocritical if he said it. And I'm not finding confirmation of its factual nature anywhere. Cite?



   
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Ask Carter what a botched military action costs you politically.


Only if it fails. Then it's a painted on target inferring a wider ineptness.
Did people hold Carter responsible for the rescue attempt going horribly? (straight question) That's the only thing I can think of that I admire about the guy myself.





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Clinton was paid two million dollars to do the ad. You want him to say gutsy--he says gutsy (Ex. 23:1). 30 Apr 2012 Dick Morris, Fox News
Let's see that source.

Also, why not say he got paid a bazillion-gazillion dollars for the ad? I mean, two million is a lot, but a bazillion-gazillion? Whew!





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Killing OBL was a no-brainer. Why is Obama trying to take credit for the efforts of others who were in harm's way?
becasuse he tries to take credit for evrything

except the botched economy... That was Bush's fault, dontcha know?



   
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"Lets see that source...."
Would it matter?

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"Also, why not say he got paid a bazillion-gazillion dollars for the ad? I mean, two million is a lot, but a bazillion-gazillion? Whew!"
Was Morris serious about the amount mentioned on Fox News last night? I think he was.

[The Clinton-Obama Deal! Dick Morris TV: Lunch Alert! By Dick Morris on May 1, 2012] "...In this video commentary, I discuss the new Clinton-Obama deal. On your TV, you’ll see an ad where Bill Clinton praises Obama for killing bin Laden. Learn about what Bill got in return..." Vid The Clinton-Obama Deal! Dick Morris TV: Lunch Alert!






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Would it matter?
Absolutely.

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Was Morris serious about the amount mentioned on Fox News last night? I think he was.

[The Clinton-Obama Deal! Dick Morris TV: Lunch Alert! By Dick Morris on May 1, 2012] "...In this video commentary, I discuss the new Clinton-Obama deal. On your TV, you’ll see an ad where Bill Clinton praises Obama for killing bin Laden. Learn about what Bill got in return..." Vid The Clinton-Obama Deal! Dick Morris TV: Lunch Alert!


I see. Morris ought to get into the rubber band business. What with the crazy stretching.





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