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May 1st, 2012, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruciform
Your complete inability to adequately address the other points in my post is noted.
What points? I haven't found any points except the one I addressed, which is that you are attempting (and failing) to claim Biblical authority for the Roman Catholic organization based on the ability of the Roman Catholic organization to get the state to murder anyone that opposed them.
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May 1st, 2012, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lifeisgood
No, IMHO, you did not answer anything in Post #46 above, YOU EXPOUNDED THE PHILOSOPHY OF YOUR RELIGION, which is different and I do not mean to be disrespectful at all. Just like I would if I had a religion, but I don't.
Sure you do. Like everyone else, you derive your ideas and beliefs from various informational sources (traditions) outside of yourself. Beliefs are not formed in a vacuum. Thus, everything you post on this forum is just as much a case of "expounding the philosophy of your religion" as it is for any Catholic. All people---Catholics and non-Catholics alike---have their doctrinal tradition(s), whether they are aware of that fact or not, and you are certainly no exception.
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May 1st, 2012, 09:24 PM
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What points?
The ones in Post #54. But that's okay, it's clear that you need to avoid certain questions, and I understand that, having once been a Protestant anti-Catholic myself.
In any event, this "discussion" has clearly run its course. Later.
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May 1st, 2012, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by genuineoriginal
You already provided the definitive answer for that suggestion: "Don't even bother"
Answered in Post #63 above.
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May 1st, 2012, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by One In Christ
Answered in post #poopy-pants..
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Wow. Doesn't this forum have some sort of minimum age limit...?
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May 1st, 2012, 10:09 PM
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Yeah, because how old something is totally defines how good and right it is.
No problem with the other dates but 33CE, that's a lie. The First Council of Nicaea. 325CE, on a different continent no less with people didn't speak Aramiac and where not from Judea.
No problem with the other dates but 33CE, that's a lie. The First Council of Nicaea. 325CE, on a different continent no less with people didn't speak Aramiac and where not from Judea.
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May 1st, 2012, 10:20 PM
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The ones in Post #54. But that's okay, it's clear that you need to avoid certain questions
I looked at Post #54, and there were no points made in that post.
It was just you whining.
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I understand that, having once been a Protestant anti-Catholic myself.
Funny, but I am not a Protestant, I am a Christian according to the traditions of the original Christians, not the traditions of the usurpers from Rome.
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May 1st, 2012, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by genuineoriginal
I looked at Post #54, and there were no points made in that post.
Sure thing. Take care now...
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Funny, but I am not a Protestant, I am a Christian according to the traditions of the original Christians...
Of course you are---just like the rest of the 38,000+ competing and contradictory man-made non-Catholic denominations and sects in existence today, with more being invented every week.
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"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
Nice cartoon caricature of the latter. Moving on...
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... not exactly sure you've proven anything more than the catholic church is little more than a giant religious bureaucracy steeped in many man made and man centric traditions!
One has to be seriously Pinheaded & newsless to Espouse & affirm OT Nonsensical tommyrot!
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May 2nd, 2012, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by All12Cylinders
... not exactly sure you've proven anything more than the Catholic Church is little more than a giant religious bureaucracy steeped in many man made and man centric traditions!
That's what your chosen non-Catholic sectarian doctrinal tradition(s) has told you, anyway...
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May 2nd, 2012, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveDodo007
No problem with the other dates but 33CE, that's a lie. The First Council of Nicaea. 325CE, on a different continent no less with people didn't speak Aramiac and where not from Judea.
Also that "Mormon" (I mean really its the internet age look it up) would have a date of 1830 if they actually looked up the founding of the Church.
When a Church was founded is superfluous though given that we have ample scriptural evidence that apostasy and loss of truth has been a constant event in the world's history otherwise we'd have a body that could actually claim historical connection back to Adam but such a body simply doesn't exist. Even though the Jews of Christ's day claimed historical lineage from Abraham, Moses and the other Prophets Christ and others made it abundantly clear the Jews of the day no longer followed the teachings of those prophets.
Claim all the history you want if you don't follow the fulness of the Gospel its worthless and can even be something used to justify pride (as the Jews had done). I'd sooner join a Church that began yesterday if it followed Christ's pure Gospel over one that was as old as the world and had muddied the fountain.
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May 3rd, 2012, 12:02 PM
Thank you Cruciform, for reminding me to never go into traditions of man, when it comes to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Wasn’t Paul that said something about being exceedingly zealous of the traditions of his fathers?
But then he met the Master and Paul’s life changed and he in turn left written his experiences with the Risen Lord --- his traditions were put aside.
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May 3rd, 2012, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lifeisgood
Thank you Cruciform, for reminding me to never go into traditions of man, when it comes to the Lord Jesus Christ. Wasn’t Paul that said something about being exceedingly zealous of the traditions of his fathers?But then he met the Master and Paul’s life changed and he in turn left written his experiences with the Risen Lord --- his traditions were put aside. The RCC came after that. What's your point? No point at all. Just saying.
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